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Can an old dog learn new tricks?

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  • Phantom66Phantom66 Member Posts: 5,542
    edited December 2014
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    http://www.elfyourself.com/?mId=62617005.2
    Posted by Macacgirl1
    Oh dear.

    This was hilarious....at first....until on 2nd viewing I noticed how rather feminine and frankly quite hot their bodies are in some scenes, Parts are definitely wobbling where they shouldn't be and I find myself rather nauseas, confused and in need of counselling.

    Whereabouts in corfu should I send the bill and solicitors letter regarding damages?
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,402
    edited December 2014

    PLO8 Advent Calendar, December 14th

    Played 34 games.

    £3.30, P21, W14, L7

    £5.50, P9, W3, L6

    £11, P4, W2, L2

    Total for day, P34, W19, = 56%

    Reward Points on night= 148 (-2 on target)

    Opening balance £1,496.27

    Closing balance £1,487.47

    Profit/Loss on day = £8.80


    Month To date

    £3.30 P205, W115, L90 (56%)

    £5.50 P124, W63, L61 (51%)

    £11.00 P47, W27, L20 (57%)

    TOTAL = P375, W203, L172 (54%)

    Reward Points = 1,707 (+57 on target)

    Profit Loss to date on Month £20.80
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,402
    edited December 2014

    Ha!

    Was £40 up & heading for a great day, counting my winnings already, then somehow managed to lose NINE of the last TEN games.

    The £1,500 barrier is proving as difficult to reach as £1,400 was. Think I spent a month trying to get past £1,400.
     
     
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,402
    edited December 2014

    PLO8 Advent Calendar, December 15th

    Played 34 games.

    £3.30, P19, W12, L7

    £5.50, P9, W6, L3

    £11, P6, W3, L3

    Total for day, P34, W21, = 62%

    Reward Points on night= 160 (+10 on target)

    Opening balance £1,487.47

    Closing balance £1,501.27

    Profit/Loss on day = £13.80


    Month To date

    £3.30 P224, W127, L97 (57%)

    £5.50 P133, W69, L64 (52%)

    £11.00 P53, W30, L23 (57%)

    TOTAL = P409, W224, L185 (55%)

    Reward Points = 1,869 (+69 on target)

    Profit Loss to date on Month £34.60
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,402
    edited December 2014

    Better.

    Managed to won on the night, but it all hung on the last game of the session, an £11er.
     
    The Chippie had 6,500, two stacks each had approx 2,250 each, & I was hanging in with 1,000. It was VERY satisfying to win that one, though it had less to do with my "skills" than how the others played. A very odd game indeed, & I was very fortunate to escape with the win. 

    Overall, last night saw some of the most inexplicable play I've ever seen in these things, it was eye-watering, but fun to play against. 

    In one £11er, I got it all in pre on the vey first hand with you know what, really good ones, too, & got accommodated by K-9-7-7 which hit a straight. I suppose I don't NEED to go to war very first hand, as the outdraw is very possible, & I could just fold.  Then again, if I could have that match-up every day, every hand, I'd take it, & I'd soon be a very rich man indeed.

    Crept over £1,500 for the first time, BOOMIO, but on past experience, I'll creep back under it again tonight.
     
    The games were very slow at first last night, but eventually I got 6 games @ £11, & 9 @ £5.50, which is pretty good for a Monday, (yup, deffo a Monday....) especially as MNF was on.
     
    See you guys tonight.
     
    Whether the Forum will be fixed by then is another matter, so maybe nobody will be able to read this......

    For the record, whilst the Community was "down", or apparently so, I could access some of the busier threads by clicking "BLOGS", & on there, some threads are listed on the left hand sidebar. By clicking those, I found the magic, secret, door to the Forum.
       
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,402
    edited December 2014


    "Hotwheals" returned to the £11 PLO8 DYM's last night after a lengthy absence, & promptly won all 5 games @ £11, which takes a bit of doing I'd say.   

    He has such a great game, everything he does makes sense, & is technically correct. I doubt many PLO8 players on Sky Poker are as profitable as he is, & certainly, from what I've seen, nonr play the game so well. His strategy is so, so, simple, but so so good. Essentially, it's all about starting hand ranges, & he has them completely sussed. Play good starting hands &, over time, you'lll win, play bad starting hands & eventually you'll knock it all in, it's that simple.

    Anyway, I welcomed him back, & he told me had had been very unwell lately - firstly he had a heart attack, & then a cancer scare (test results awaited). You probably know that his alias is because he has a wheelchair, or so I understand.

    Just wanted to say, if he is reading this, very best of luck with those tests, & hope all is soon well again.

    Top, top, bloke.
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,477
    edited December 2014
    Talking of inexplicable plays.

    Was short stacked on the button, 4 left, folded to me , i shoved and got looked up by the BB (who didn't have that many more chips than me).

    He had the monster hand..........K844r

    Ended in a chop as he rivered a 4 for the hi.

    Strange!!
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,402
    edited December 2014
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    Talking of inexplicable plays. Was short stacked on the button, 4 left, folded to me , i shoved and got looked up by the BB (who didn't have that many more chips than me). He had the monster hand..........K844r Ended in a chop as he rivered a 4 for the hi. Strange!!
    Posted by VespaPX
    Bizarre. Many players struggle to understand the difference between BETTING Ranges & CALLING Ranges. It's fundamental. We can raise with much weaker hands than we can, or should, call with.
     
    We should be pleased at these plays though.
     
    4 handed in one last night, I had 2 Bigs, & was in the BB next hand. Then the 2 big stacks went to war, & one got busted. Yikes, happy days!

    Go figure.

    It's got nothing to do with poker knowledge, it's just common-sense.
     
  • Macacgirl1Macacgirl1 Member Posts: 865
    edited December 2014
    You wouldn't listen to auntie Karen a couple of months ago when I told you the ranges were going silly!

    Expect this from 85% of the player base and you'll be on track!
    Any ace
    Any pair
    Any 4 lo cards
    Any 4 high cards 
    Any 2 lo with any 2 hi

    The sooner people start playing brilliant hands like 8833 the sooner the standard will improve.

    The tournaments are amazing, hand selection is out the window! So much fun. You see the same players either taking them down or busting first. 
    I played the £100 guaranteed yesterday. Played properly! That was a challenge in itself. We get close to the bubble, I pot it with a good hand. It's obv I'm then commited. My eyes nearly fell out when I saw what someone come over the top with, for their tournament life.
    9853.
    It's obviously ranked higher than the mighty 8833 as they scooped the lot.
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,477
    edited December 2014
    I need a new colour code for these type of players.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,402
    edited December 2014


    Let's not forget, we want these types of play against us, because, over time, we must beat them.
     
    Personally, I'd love to be able to help them to understand ranges, & the sort of hands which are playable, or not, simply because....

    1) They will all go busto sooner or later.

    2) Playing the game properly is so much more satisfying, so we end up with a bigger PLO8 playing pool. If that reduces our (perceived) edge, so be it.
     
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,477
    edited December 2014
    Agreed

    I'm tempted to give advice in the chat box, but never sure how they will take it, so i just keep quiet.
  • Macacgirl1Macacgirl1 Member Posts: 865
    edited December 2014
    I absolutely love it vesp! Never enjoyed it more.
    There's one particular player in the tournaments who will not fold to a raise pre-flop. As I find it impossible not to, I'm raising into him every time I can with a good hand. I wish I'd kept a proper track of his calls (never comes over the top) but at the moment, it's between 50 and 60. I'm going to reset that to 50 to be sure and try and reach a straight 100 with him!
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,477
    edited December 2014
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    I absolutely love it vesp! Never enjoyed it more. There's one particular player in the tournaments who will not fold to a raise pre-flop. As I find it impossible not to, I'm raising into him every time I can with a good hand. I wish I'd kept a proper track of his calls (never comes over the top) but at the moment, it's between 50 and 60. I'm going to reset that to 50 to be sure and try and reach a straight 100 with him!
    Posted by Macacgirl1
    How many did you win?
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,402
    edited December 2014
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    Agreed I'm tempted to give advice in the chat box, but never sure how they will take it, so i just keep quiet.
    Posted by VespaPX
    Have to say, I agree, giving advice via the chat box, no matter how well-intended, tends to come across badly, unless specifically asked to do so.
  • Macacgirl1Macacgirl1 Member Posts: 865
    edited December 2014
    More than I've lost vesp, because I'll c-bet if I've missed or not. Only time I won't c-bet is when the flop comes 79J, those type of hands. You know then you are invariably losing as they've hit a set, 2 pair or a straight, or drawing to straight and they ain't folding.

    I was on the receiving end of a lovely chat-box comment yesterday. I flopped the nut lo and top 2 pair, so I pot pot pot 
    Opponent had a bag of spanners (789 type hand) and turned a straight, so ultimately I just chop.
    Comment to me?
    "A2 ****!"

  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,402
    edited December 2014
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    I absolutely love it vesp! Never enjoyed it more. There's one particular player in the tournaments who will not fold to a raise pre-flop. As I find it impossible not to, I'm raising into him every time I can with a good hand. I wish I'd kept a proper track of his calls (never comes over the top) but at the moment, it's between 50 and 60. I'm going to reset that to 50 to be sure and try and reach a straight 100 with him!
    Posted by Macacgirl1
    There are 2 DYM regulars - both lovely chaps - who limp, or flat-call, EVERY SINGLE HAND of DYM's. It does not matter what action takes place before it gets to them, or their stack size. CALL. They'll call a 5 Bigs raise out of a 6 Bigs stack, too.
     
    And no matter how bad that is, it makes you really concentrate, because you have to be able to read flop textures in these spots so that you can c-bet, whether we have hit the flop or not. AS a general rule, the "peelers" are on some sort of low draw, almost never a High Only draw. So a K-Q-8 flop means we can easily bet again, & generally TID.
     
    As poker players, of course, we are supposed, when facing resistance, to assign a range to our opponent.
     
    I can assign ranges to most profitable players, but I can't even guess at the serial callers & peelers likely hands, except that it is almost certainly a low draw.
     
    It's huge fun trying to find the best ways to play these different spots.
     

  • Phantom66Phantom66 Member Posts: 5,542
    edited December 2014
    You missed a starting hand in your range Macacgirl

    Any double suited hand.

    Got notes on one player who will literally play ANY 2 ds cards, limp or calling a pot raise doesnt matter

    9955ds

    Q973ds

    its all good
  • Macacgirl1Macacgirl1 Member Posts: 865
    edited December 2014
    I know what you mean Phantom and I know who you mean!
    It's a funny old game some times!

    Just had a wonderful thought, can you imagine what the games would be like if Sky brought in the 5 or 6 card Omaha variants!
  • Phantom66Phantom66 Member Posts: 5,542
    edited December 2014
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    I know what you mean Phantom and I know who you mean! It's a funny old game some times! Just had a wonderful thought, can you imagine what the games would be like if Sky brought in the 5 or 6 card Omaha variants!
    Posted by Macacgirl1
    5 or 6? please no - that thought is worse than TKs head on a sexy elf body (well not quite worse)
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