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Can an old dog learn new tricks?

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  • pompeynicpompeynic Member Posts: 2,834
    edited March 2014
    Oh dear i am rubbish, going to bed to weep at just how bad i play this game.
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,474
    edited March 2014
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    Oh dear i am rubbish, going to bed to weep at just how bad i play this game.
    Posted by pompeynic
    Post a couple of hands in the Clinic
    I'm sure we can help you.
    Gl
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,247
    edited March 2014

    Whoops, not been able to update this for a week, I've had some things to sort, you know, stuff.

    I've played every night though, except when working, & I've kept all the numbers, so I'll get started with the daily numbers, then do my blathery bit afterwards.
     
    One minor problem is that I've started to play a bit of PLO8 cash some nights, so this muddies the numbers slightly.

    The "Bankroll" figure I quote every day is my exact closing balance after the last session. That will continue to be the case, so overall, the numbers will remain accurate. Sort of.    
     
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,247
    edited March 2014

    Monday 10th March

    Played 41

    Won 20

    Lost 21

    Split....

    £3.30 - Played 31, Won 15, Lost 16

    £5.50 - Played 8, won 4 lost 4

    £11.00 - Played 2, won 1, Lost 1

    PROFIT/LOSS on Day
    £21.00

    PROFIT/LOSS per game £0.51


    REWARD POINTS = 153


    BANKROLL at close of Play = £1,303.40

    REWARD POINTS at close of play = 760 (= £7.60)
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,247
    edited March 2014

    March to date........

    Played 175

    Won 109

    Lost 66

    Win-rate, January, 62.28%

    PROFIT/LOSS in March,
    £164.84

    Profit
    /Loss per game February =
    £0.94
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,247
    edited March 2014

    Tuesday 11th March

    Played 22

    Won 12

    Lost 10

    Split....

    £3.30 - Played 14, Won 7, Lost 7

    £5.50 - Played 5, won 3 lost 2

    £11.00 - Played 3, won 2, Lost 1

    PROFIT/LOSS on Day
    £5.30

    PROFIT/LOSS per game £0.25


    REWARD POINTS = 97


    BANKROLL at close of Play = £1,308.70

    REWARD POINTS at close of play = 857 (= £8.57)
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,247
    edited March 2014

    March to date........

    Played 197

    Won 121

    Lost 76

    Win-rate, January, 61.41%

    PROFIT/LOSS in March,
    £170.14

    Profit
    /Loss per game February =
    £0.86
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,247
    edited March 2014

    Wednesday 12th March

    Played 28

    Won 12

    Lost 16

    Split....

    £3.30 - Played 17, Won 6, Lost 11

    £5.50 - Played 8, won 4 lost 4

    £11.00 - Played 3, won 2, Lost 1

    PROFIT/LOSS on Day
    £17.10

    PROFIT/LOSS per game £0.61


    REWARD POINTS = 121


    BANKROLL at close of Play = £1,291.60

    REWARD POINTS at close of play = 978 (= £9.78)
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,247
    edited March 2014

    March to date........

    Played 225

    Won 133

    Lost 92

    Win-rate, January, 59.11%

    PROFIT/LOSS in March,
    £153.04

    Profit
    /Loss per game February =
    £0.68
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,247
    edited March 2014

    Thursday 13th March

    Played 30

    Won 17

    Lost 13

    Split....

    £3.30 - Played 16, Won 9, Lost 7

    £5.50 - Played 10, won 6 lost 4

    £11.00 - Played 4, won 2, Lost 2

    PROFIT/LOSS on Day
    £9.90 (of which £1.70 came from CASH GAMES)

    PROFIT/LOSS per game £0.63


    REWARD POINTS = 160


    BANKROLL at close of Play = £1,301.50

    REWARD POINTS at close of play = 1,134 (= £11.34)
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,247
    edited March 2014

    March to date........

    Played 255

    Won 150

    Lost 105

    Win-rate, January, 58.80%

    PROFIT/LOSS in March,
    £162.94

    Profit
    /Loss per game February =
    £0.64
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,247
    edited March 2014

    Friday 14th March

    Played 32

    Won 22

    Lost 10

    Split....

    £3.30 - Played 9, Won 6, Lost 3

    £5.50 - Played 11, won 10 lost 1

    £11.00 - Played 12, won 6, Lost 6

    PROFIT/LOSS on Day
    £36.50 

    PROFIT/LOSS per game £1.14


    REWARD POINTS = 202


    BANKROLL at close of Play = £1,338.50

    REWARD POINTS at close of play = 1,339 (= £13.39)
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,247
    edited March 2014

    March to date........

    Played 287

    Won 172

    Lost 115

    Win-rate, January, 59.93%

    PROFIT/LOSS in March,
    £193.44

    Profit
    /Loss per game February =
    £0.67
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,247
    edited March 2014

    Saturday 15th March

    Played 28

    Won 14

    Lost 14

    Split....

    £3.30 - Played 14, Won 7, Lost 7

    £5.50 - Played 11, won 6 lost 5

    £11.00 - Played 3, won 1, Lost 2

    PROFIT/LOSS on Day
    £49.01

    PROFIT/LOSS per game £1.75


    REWARD POINTS = 148


    BANKROLL at close of Play = £1,288.99

    REWARD POINTS at close of play = 1,487 (= £14.87)
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,247
    edited March 2014

    March to date........

    Played 315

    Won 186

    Lost 129

    Win-rate, January, 59.05%

    PROFIT/LOSS in March,
    £144.43

    Profit
    /Loss per game February =
    £0.46
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,247
    edited March 2014

    Sunday 16th March

    Played 35

    Won 19

    Lost 16

    Split....

    £3.30 - Played 22, Won 12, Lost 10

    £5.50 - Played 8, won 5 lost 3

    £11.00 - Played 5, won 2, Lost 3

    PROFIT/LOSS on Day
    £9.60

    PROFIT/LOSS per game £0.27


    REWARD POINTS = 157


    BANKROLL at close of Play = £1,279.39

    REWARD POINTS at close of play = 1,643 (= £16.43)
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,247
    edited March 2014

    March to date........

    Played 350

    Won 205

    Lost 145

    Win-rate, January, 58.57%

    PROFIT/LOSS in March,
    £134.83

    Profit
    /Loss per game February =
    £0.39
  • chicknMeltchicknMelt Member Posts: 1,159
    edited March 2014
    lol, I admire your pedantism... most people would have just put up some summary numbers. Not TK, no, he must show numbers from each and every day, even if it takes him half a day to type it all in :D

    anyway, I'm interrupting this number fest with some words. about numbers.


    in the DYMs I play with you, you ony ever seem to bet pot, or not at all... Is there a reason behind it? 




  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,247
    edited March 2014
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    lol, I admire your pedantism... most people would have just put up some summary numbers. Not TK, no, he must show numbers from each and every day, even if it takes him half a day to type it all in :D anyway, I'm interrupting this number fest with some words. about numbers. in the DYMs I play with you, you ony ever seem to bet pot, or not at all... Is there a reason behind it? 
    Posted by chicknMelt
    That's half my problem, I have to do it properly, or not at all, so yeah, all the numbers need to be Posted.

    Amaing what a difference daily figures gives me, too, it improves my discipline no end. I've not updated for a week, & whilst I'm still £140 or whatever ahead in March, I've slipped back a good few quid this week, & had not realised. Some of that - £20 maybe - was playing cash, to be fair. I suck at cash. As you know......

    I mostly bet "pot", yes. Sevewal reasons really.

    1) I'm generally 6 or 7 tabling, so I don't have time to mess about typing in odd amounts. It makes very little difference at this level, to be honest.
     
    2) These play so shallow, especially 4 handed in Level 7 up, that it just makes sense to pot it. If I were playing a well-structured, long tourney, then no, I would generally (not always) bet less. 

    3) I'm very much swimming against the tide with this "you MUST only bet 2.2x" nonsense.I don't buy that in shallow structures & fast clocks.
     
    4) In PLO8, we are NEVER far ahead, 60-40 if we are lucky. (TWICE, as there may be 2 pots). So I'm quite happy, at the later blind levels, to take pots pre-flop, uncontested. I never lose if they all fold pre-flop. Ever. OK, if we were playing 50 Bigs deep, that's different. We are not. I don't want to price folks in, even if I have a monsta-wonsta. Just fold lads, you know it makes sense. ;)

    MOTHER called me once last week when I potted it. Disrepectful, that. Bang out of order. As it happens, I had misclicked, & had total spanners. First time I'd ever done that. No, honest, it was.      
     
  • chicknMeltchicknMelt Member Posts: 1,159
    edited March 2014
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks? : That's half my problem, I have to do it properly, or not at all, so yeah, all the numbers need to be Posted. Amaing what a difference daily figures gives me, too, it improves my discipline no end. I've not updated for a week, & whilst I'm still £140 or whatever ahead in March, I've slipped back a good few quid this week, & had not realised. Some of that - £20 maybe - was playing cash, to be fair. I suck at cash. As you know...... I mostly bet "pot", yes. Sevewal reasons really. 1) I'm generally 6 or 7 tabling, so I don't have time to mess about typing in odd amounts. It makes very little difference at this level, to be honest.   2) These play so shallow, especially 4 handed in Level 7 up, that it just makes sense to pot it. If I were playing a well-structured, long tourney, then no, I would generally (not always) bet less.  3) I'm very much swimming against the tide with this "you MUST only bet 2.2x" nonsense.I don't buy that in shallow structures & fast clocks.   4) In PLO8, we are NEVER far ahead, 60-40 if we are lucky. (TWICE, as there may be 2 pots). So I'm quite happy, at the later blind levels, to take pots pre-flop, uncontested. I never lose if they all fold pre-flop. Ever. OK, if we were playing 50 Bigs deep, that's different. We are not. I don't want to price folks in, even if I have a monsta-wonsta. Just fold lads, you know it makes sense. ;) MOTHER called me once last week when I potted it. Disrepectful, that. Bang out of order. As it happens, I had misclicked, & had total spanners. First time I'd ever done that. No, honest, it was.        
    Posted by Tikay10

    1) in general, I agree

    2) I feel that there are occasions where your opponent simply wont call unless they "have it" even if you bet less. for example, you isolate alimper pre, and the flop is QTT rainbow... or what about when you want to get thin value. they are examples when I might bet less than pot.

    3)you might well be right, in PLO8 DYMs at least. my view is - how often do you see people fold to min raises when the blinds are big? is it alot less than when you 3.5x it? i think its pretty similar. people generally go over the top or fold?

    4)fair point. not post flop though? you could have the nut high and low. would you still bet pot??


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