In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks? : lol @ that hand when you got it in pre with good AAxx in the pretty low blind levels too got called by JJ63 or something and got scooped ouch Posted by chicknMelt
J-J-6-2, actually. Amazing scenes.
I played it too fast, in truth, & he did pick up a nice draw on the flop, I potted, call, the turn blanked, pot, call, & he did a get. My bad really, I should have slowed down, but I had 9 tables running, & I never stopped to think.
When this happens - I mean, J-J-6-2 is AWFUL - my mental reactions go like this.....
1) Initial reaction - WHAT? What is he doing?
2) Second reaction - my bad, I should have slowed down, he musta had something.
3) Third reaction. I want the chap on my Table every game, & I want to play that hand with him 10,000 times.
It does not make me cross, but I always go through the "if we play it 10,000 times, who'll win most". Which sort of keeps me nice & calm.
Greatly enjoyed last night, despite the "lol-bad" comments I posted earlier. The games seemed quite tough last night, but I was leading the game-count 18-12 (60% win-rate) for the first 30 games, then the old wheels came off a bit.
Loved that game where you got felted to 100 chips early doors, & kept hanging in. From what I saw, you must have come out ahead on the session, you won more £11ers than you lost.
Playing mixed stakes (£3.30, £5.50 & £11), with 80% of the games @ £3.30, the £11ers make or break my sessions. Last night was break.
Impressive stuff Gramps. Never thought I would see the day of you multi tabling :-) You still type with one finger though ;-) Hope all is well with you and keep it going buddy! Posted by dylan12
Ha, me multi-tabling, not wrong, who'd have thunk?
But I'm fine with it, my current optimum is 6 Tables. I can make the decisions, & act fast enough, the problem is "re-arranging" my table tiling when tables start or finish, & keeping my little hand-written log of results up to date. I ought to have a spreadsheet, really. I'd best have a word with Dear Vince.
One-finger typing? Me? Nah, not any more. Watch the end of this, proper touch typist me.
In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks? : J-J-6-2, actually. Amazing scenes. I played it too fast, in truth, & he did pick up a nice draw on the flop, I potted, call, the turn blanked, pot, call, & he did a get. My bad really, I should have slowed down, but I had 9 tables running, & I never stopped to think. When this happens - I mean, J-J-6-2 is AWFUL - my mental reactions go like this..... 1) Initial reaction - WHAT? What is he doing? 2) Second reaction - my bad, I should have slowed down, he musta had something. 3) Third reaction. I want the chap on my Table every game, & I want to play that hand with him 10,000 times. It does not make me cross, but I always go through the "if we play it 10,000 times, who'll win most". Which sort of keeps me nice & calm. Greatly enjoyed last night, despite the "lol-bad" comments I posted earlier. The games seemed quite tough last night, but I was leading the game-count 18-12 (60% win-rate) for the first 30 games, then the old wheels came off a bit. Loved that game where you got felted to 100 chips early doors, & kept hanging in. From what I saw, you must have come out ahead on the session, you won more £11ers than you lost. Playing mixed stakes (£3.30, £5.50 & £11), with 80% of the games @ £3.30, the £11ers make or break my sessions. Last night was break. Be there tonight, you help the £11 liquidity. Posted by Tikay10
oh sorry, I thought it had gone in pre somehow - guess I wasnt watching.
I guess one of the beauties of DYMs is when you bust, its alot easier to think like that - "play that way x number of times, and I'll easily come out on top". - you are only ever playing to win or lose 1 buy in. Its less easy in MTTs though, when you could lose a hand like that for 100's of buy ins in value. Of course you try and tell yourself that the play is winning in the long run, but the frustration is alot harder to get over!
yes, there is something quite satisfying about sticking around with a micro stack. manaed to do it for quite a while before busting.
there was another game too, where something similar happened - at 150/300 i got scooped and was playing a stack of 168, just over 0.5bb, and managed somehow to cash. Easily the most satisfying win of the night.
I also thought the games were alot tougher last night - my record for the last 4 days is 2-0, 3-0, 1-0, and then 4-3 last night. the games were running longer and i think in one of my games there were still 5 people left at 300/600!
I'll be back again tonight most likely - I enjoy PLO8 alot, but decided to stop playing so much until recently because I didnt really know what I was doing, and was losing a bit too much (average of around £2 a game i think - which is aweful!) watched a few vids, and played a bit of NL08 cash and tournies on another site, and hopefully I have turned it around a bit now.
In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks? : Ha, me multi-tabling, not wrong, who'd have thunk? But I'm fine with it, my current optimum is 6 Tables. I can make the decisions, & act fast enough, the problem is "re-arranging" my table tiling when tables start or finish, & keeping my little hand-written log of results up to date. I ought to have a spreadsheet, really. I'd best have a word with Dear Vince. One-finger typing? Me? Nah, not any more. Watch the end of this, proper touch typist me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4Og9y1Z55c Posted by Tikay10
you know SS has an export to CSV file option for subscribers?
I'd be happy to help you out with a spreadsheet/ formulas for your spreadsheet...
In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks? : Ha, me multi-tabling, not wrong, who'd have thunk? But I'm fine with it, my current optimum is 6 Tables. I can make the decisions, & act fast enough, the problem is "re-arranging" my table tiling when tables start or finish, & keeping my little hand-written log of results up to date. I ought to have a spreadsheet, really. I'd best have a word with Dear Vince. One-finger typing? Me? Nah, not any more. Watch the end of this, proper touch typist me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4Og9y1Z55c Posted by Tikay10
Well, I think that I would struggle to even play 2 tables these days (yes I know I also struggle to even play 1) ;-)
Vince is the man, wish there were more like him, total unsung hero.
I may come along one evening to give you a spin, 1 table though, only have my iPad these days, laptop grinding days are behind me.
In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks? : Well, I think that I would struggle to even play 2 tables these days (yes I know I also struggle to even play 1) ;-) Vince is the man, wish there were more like him, total unsung hero. I may come along one evening to give you a spin, 1 table though, only have my iPad these days, laptop grinding days are behind me. Posted by dylan12
How are you going to win the jackpot again when you're only on one table?
Probably my worst set of results over 2 days since I began, bringing the 2 day loss to £50, so all the metrics have been badly disturbed.
I worry about nights like that, but they are going to happen repeatedly, they just are. The graph is stubbornly heading north, with repeated little setbacks, but it's just fine.
I played 40 DYM's last night, & fretted because I won less than half. But why fret? In March, I've played 500 of them, & I'm nicely in profit, & since this thing began, I've played nearly 3,000 & made a good average profit.
So why, when we have a little blip or two, do we fret? It's daft. Variance is not to be messed with. It exists. We just have to deal with it.
Probably my worst set of results over 2 days since I began, bringing the 2 day loss to £50, so all the metrics have been badly disturbed. I worry about nights like that, but they are going to happen repeatedly, they just are. The graph is stubbornly heading north, with repeated little setbacks, but it's just fine. I played 40 DYM's last night, & fretted because I won less than half. But why fret? In March, I've played 500 of them, & I'm nicely in profit, & since this thing began, I've played nearly 3,000 & made a good average profit. So why, when we have a little blip or two, do we fret? It's daft. Variance is not to be messed with. It exists. We just have to deal with it. Posted by Tikay10
No one likes seeing thier balance go down, then negative thoughts come in and your ultimatly trying to hard to win back what you lost, well it is for me. If your still playing well and just getting unlucky then crack on otherwise a 48 hour break can do wonders. Very impressive play since the start of this, not easy feat grinding to over £1k on DYM's, Well done.
I was rescued from an even worse session by the £11ers, 5 ran, & I won 4 of them. That made a HUGE difference to the numbers.
I felt I was a tad unlucky to win the other one, in fact. I did the Pot thing (with a PROPER HAND) when the blinds were big, & Mr Melt, he of the chickn, looked like folding, as the timebar edged round. And then....he called.
He had spanners of the miniature variety - shocking call - but had me stone cold drawing dead on the flop. Outrage!!!!!!!!!
In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks? : No one likes seeing thier balance go down, then negative thoughts come in and your ultimatly trying to hard to win back what you lost, well it is for me. If your still playing well and just getting unlucky then crack on otherwise a 48 hour break can do wonders. Very impressive play since the start of this, not easy feat grinding to over £1k on DYM's, Well done. Posted by alex1229
Ahh, thank you Alex. Best fun I've ever had since I thrashed Orford in TKO.
Whatever happened to him? Is he still around, still getting away with it?
I was rescued from an even worse session by the £11ers, 5 ran, & I won 4 of them. That made a HUGE difference to the numbers. I felt I was a tad unlucky to win the other one, in fact. I did the Pot thing (with a PROPER HAND) when the blinds were big, & Mr Melt, he of the chickn, looked like folding, as the timebar edged round. And then....he called. He had spanners of the miniature variety - shocking call - but had me stone cold drawing dead on the flop. Outrage!!!!!!!!! Pretty sure it was a spite call. Posted by Tikay10
hehe, you must mean this beaut...
I wish you could see the other players stacks, because it was significant in my decision... my thinking may well be flawed - but here it is anyway. Maybe you could comment?:
you were shortest, me 2nd shortest with xxx as big stack. Now xxx doesnt like to use the fold button much - and is in the BB when I'm SB, so I was extremely cautious about stealing without a big hand either from the D or when in the SB. You may have noticed in the earlier stages I was limping from the SB with hands i might normally raise with. I believe he was the JJ63 guy.
I know that you like to steal preeeeetty wide, especially when the blinds are big (and especially against me it seems!).
so yeah, it was close, but I felt I was far enough ahead of your range to take the gamble and make the call, and still have 3bb left if I got scooped. If I had folded and waited another rotation we would have had almost equal stacks, and would be playing for my tourney life to make a call next time. or I would have to risk my tourney life by trying to steal one of xxx's blinds.
If I did win this, I wouldn't have to risk my chips (and tourney) vs the bigger stacked xxx with anything other than a premium for a while because I would be one of the big stacks myself.
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Played bad.
Ran bad.
Bad
Bad bad.
I wonder if its the pressure of the Promo on my part?
I played it too fast, in truth, & he did pick up a nice draw on the flop, I potted, call, the turn blanked, pot, call, & he did a get. My bad really, I should have slowed down, but I had 9 tables running, & I never stopped to think.
When this happens - I mean, J-J-6-2 is AWFUL - my mental reactions go like this.....
1) Initial reaction - WHAT? What is he doing?
2) Second reaction - my bad, I should have slowed down, he musta had something.
3) Third reaction. I want the chap on my Table every game, & I want to play that hand with him 10,000 times.
It does not make me cross, but I always go through the "if we play it 10,000 times, who'll win most". Which sort of keeps me nice & calm.
Greatly enjoyed last night, despite the "lol-bad" comments I posted earlier. The games seemed quite tough last night, but I was leading the game-count 18-12 (60% win-rate) for the first 30 games, then the old wheels came off a bit.
Loved that game where you got felted to 100 chips early doors, & kept hanging in. From what I saw, you must have come out ahead on the session, you won more £11ers than you lost.
Playing mixed stakes (£3.30, £5.50 & £11), with 80% of the games @ £3.30, the £11ers make or break my sessions. Last night was break.
Be there tonight, you help the £11 liquidity.
But I'm fine with it, my current optimum is 6 Tables. I can make the decisions, & act fast enough, the problem is "re-arranging" my table tiling when tables start or finish, & keeping my little hand-written log of results up to date. I ought to have a spreadsheet, really. I'd best have a word with Dear Vince.
One-finger typing? Me? Nah, not any more. Watch the end of this, proper touch typist me.
Thursday 20th March
Played 40
Won 17
Lost 23
Split....
£3.30 - Played 26, Won 11, Lost 15
£5.50 - Played 9, won 2 lost 7
£11.00 - Played 5, won 4, Lost 1
PROFIT/LOSS on Day £30.30
PROFIT/LOSS per game £0.76
REWARD POINTS = 173
BANKROLL at close of Play = £1,279.49
REWARD POINTS at close of play = 2,292 (= £22.92)
March to date........
Played 497
Won 286
Lost 211
Win-rate, January, 57.54%
PROFIT/LOSS in March, £129.13
Profit/Loss per game February = £0.26
Probably my worst set of results over 2 days since I began, bringing the 2 day loss to £50, so all the metrics have been badly disturbed.
I worry about nights like that, but they are going to happen repeatedly, they just are. The graph is stubbornly heading north, with repeated little setbacks, but it's just fine.
I played 40 DYM's last night, & fretted because I won less than half. But why fret? In March, I've played 500 of them, & I'm nicely in profit, & since this thing began, I've played nearly 3,000 & made a good average profit.
So why, when we have a little blip or two, do we fret? It's daft. Variance is not to be messed with. It exists. We just have to deal with it.
You sort of sense a bad session though. I lost 5 of the first 6, ugh, but the first £5.50 one, I exited in Level ONE, lol.
A chap was playing "quite fast", potting it pre every hand, & potting every street. He was dangerous.
He was going to bust the whole table in no time, or bust himself.
I decided to sit quietly, & watch tricks. I could win this baby without even playing a hand.
It was awesome to watch, too. Pot pot pot, amazing scenes & he was getting to showdown with a really eclectic range of stuff.
But then I found the old A-A-K-2, Double Suited.......
I tried to find the fold, but failed, & we went pot pot ppot pre, & got the lot in. You know the rest.
He had four hearts in his hand, Q-J-9-6, then flopped the straight & turned the flush.
I did feel rather silly, "wp lads, gl all" sorta thing as I exited, tail firmly between legs.
I was rescued from an even worse session by the £11ers, 5 ran, & I won 4 of them. That made a HUGE difference to the numbers.
I felt I was a tad unlucky to win the other one, in fact. I did the Pot thing (with a PROPER HAND) when the blinds were big, & Mr Melt, he of the chickn, looked like folding, as the timebar edged round. And then....he called.
He had spanners of the miniature variety - shocking call - but had me stone cold drawing dead on the flop. Outrage!!!!!!!!!
Pretty sure it was a spite call.
Ahh, thank you Alex. Best fun I've ever had since I thrashed Orford in TKO.
Whatever happened to him? Is he still around, still getting away with it?
I made the mental decision to forget about the Promo and just concentrate my normal game and results and my play were better last night.
Funny thing these mind games eh?
hehe, you must mean this beaut...
I wish you could see the other players stacks, because it was significant in my decision... my thinking may well be flawed - but here it is anyway. Maybe you could comment?:
you were shortest, me 2nd shortest with xxx as big stack. Now xxx doesnt like to use the fold button much - and is in the BB when I'm SB, so I was extremely cautious about stealing without a big hand either from the D or when in the SB. You may have noticed in the earlier stages I was limping from the SB with hands i might normally raise with. I believe he was the JJ63 guy.
I know that you like to steal preeeeetty wide, especially when the blinds are big (and especially against me it seems!).
so yeah, it was close, but I felt I was far enough ahead of your range to take the gamble and make the call, and still have 3bb left if I got scooped. If I had folded and waited another rotation we would have had almost equal stacks, and would be playing for my tourney life to make a call next time. or I would have to risk my tourney life by trying to steal one of xxx's blinds.
If I did win this, I wouldn't have to risk my chips (and tourney) vs the bigger stacked xxx with anything other than a premium for a while because I would be one of the big stacks myself.
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