So that was not so bad, & although I only drew the game-count 23-23, I won 4 from 5 @ £11, which made all the difference.
LOT of traffic, 46 games on a Monday is incred, & a rich haul of Reward Points, 195, so the 3,000 point threshold hoves nicely into sight ahead of schedule.
I have been treading water for a week now, the graph has gone almost flat. "Chartists" in the City, who use charts to predict the Footsie, & share prices, would suggest a period of turbulence is about to follow. Up turbulence, or down turbulence?
Had a nice surprise, when I found out by chance that I'm in line for a Bronze Leaderboard payment, at present I am in the middle of the £25 band. £50 of Reward Points, & £10 or £25 of Leaderboard money, makes a HUGE difference to me at the stakes I play. Fingers crossed.
There has been a lot of debate recently about the correct etiquette - if there is such a thing - as to how we play against AWAY players.
So, we are 4 handed, Melty is big chippie, the rest of us are all much of a muchness.
And Melty disconnects. Hmm, what now? Melty will probably win even if he stays AWAY, so the other 3 of us are fighting over 2 spots. Awkward......do we steal his blinds, or what?
At which moment, one of the three - a stranger in the PLO8 DYM games - types
New player arrives on the tables last night. Everyone welcomed him, "gl" etc. The PLO8 players are a sort of little community of their own, incredibly friendly.
Soon, he types......
why so slow
Followed by
zzzzzzzzz
Then
ZZZZZZZZ
He played EVERY hand, & was soon monsta chippie, with half the chips in play. And busted first.
He turns up on the next table.
zzzzzzzz
y so slo?
ZZZZZZZZ
Rinse repeat, chip leader, first out.
Some wag types in the chat box....
well he needed an early night
I should not have laughed, really.
What is up with all this "hurry up" thing?
If he wants more action, better to play more tables imo.
Takes all sorts, I guess.
Anyway, never mind that, I've got a recovery mission to embark upon.
In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks? : Now THAT is a proper bad beat. See you later. Bit of good news for you - Dylan12 is playing these now. Posted by Tikay10
Comical (?) moment last night. There has been a lot of debate recently about the correct etiquette - if there is such a thing - as to how we play against AWAY players. So, we are 4 handed, Melty is big chippie, the rest of us are all much of a muchness. And Melty disconnects. Hmm, what now? Melty will probably win even if he stays AWAY, so the other 3 of us are fighting over 2 spots. Awkward......do we steal his blinds, or what? At which moment, one of the three - a stranger in the PLO8 DYM games - types faster Someone types ? Stranger types play faster, quick, before he comes back. Takes all types, eh? PS - Melty re-connected, & won. Posted by Tikay10
haha. I was just giving you a chance :P
been having awrful problems recently when I go above 9 tables - everything just seems to lag.
I think its tricky to know what to do when there are multiple players on the table - I think you just have to play on as normal?
I do wonder though, if what the "stranger" was saying could be construed as collusion? asking other players to play quickly is trying to work together?
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I've been running hot the last couple of days! 10-1 is my record. although alot of that is pure luck (ATT4 rivering a flush to scoop for the win vs AK23 AIPF, winning a high with A high after the money went in on the flop + plenty more I'm sure!)
the thing that has suprised me most recently, is the (very) wide range of hands some people are willing to commit their tournament with! looking through my HH I found a peach: blinds @100/200, villain opens the button to 600 from a 2750 stack. I 3bet to 1900 with AKK3, and the villain calls, then calls the rest of his stack on the 7TJ flop. he had Q456 lol.
anyway, apart from running well, I put my new found success in these down to playing (probably too many) pots postflop in the early stages so I can take advantage of some of the eclectic range of hands on display!
In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks? : Now THAT is a proper bad beat. See you later. Bit of good news for you - Dylan12 is playing these now. Posted by Tikay10
Haha!
Really enjoying these, taking tikay out on the bubble a couple of times has just made them even sweeter :-)
Well done last night mate, was hoping that you would have lost more though.
In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks? : Haha! Really enjoying these, taking tikay out on the bubble a couple of times has just made them even sweeter :-) Well done last night mate, was hoping that you would have lost more though. Posted by dylan12
In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks? : haha. I was just giving you a chance :P been having awrful problems recently when I go above 9 tables - everything just seems to lag. I think its tricky to know what to do when there are multiple players on the table - I think you just have to play on as normal? I do wonder though, if what the "stranger" was saying could be construed as collusion? asking other players to play quickly is trying to work together? ------- I've been running hot the last couple of days! 10-1 is my record. although alot of that is pure luck (ATT4 rivering a flush to scoop for the win vs AK23 AIPF, winning a high with A high after the money went in on the flop + plenty more I'm sure!) the thing that has suprised me most recently, is the (very) wide range of hands some people are willing to commit their tournament with! looking through my HH I found a peach: blinds @100/200, villain opens the button to 600 from a 2750 stack. I 3bet to 1900 with AKK3, and the villain calls, then calls the rest of his stack on the 7TJ flop. he had Q456 lol. anyway, apart from running well, I put my new found success in these down to playing (probably too many) pots postflop in the early stages so I can take advantage of some of the eclectic range of hands on display! Posted by chicknMelt
Morning melty.
Addressing a few of those points.....
Yes, with the chippie "AWAY", & the other 3 all scrambling for 2 spots, it IS difficult, & yes, we all have to play our game. We just do. Not nice, but a fact of life.
Was "faster" man guilty of collusion?
Call it what you will, I don't really know. Hardest thing in the world to prove, really. I do know it was dirty, though, very dirty.
I saw a wonderful phrase elsewhere yesterday, which summed it up beautifully.
online pickpocket.
It's such a "low" thing to do.
Q-4-5-6 man?
Yes, a most remarkable open. Generally, many players struggle with "ranges" in PLO8. Can't think of much worse than Q-4-5-6 to be honest.
You can see why he continued though, he flopped a lovely inside wrap. Or he thought he had......
As a member of the more "traditional" way of playing PLO8, I firmly believe that playing for middle straights (e.g., 3-4-5-6-7) is the worst thing possible in PLO8. To hit our straight, a Low MUST come, and as many players chase Lows, we are almost never scooping. The game is about scoops. We can easily lose both ends with those sort of straights, too. In short, very little upside, & tons of downside.
I've also been playing more pots early doors recently. Too early to judge the results yet. Some weird holdings do turn up, that's for sure.
Talking of "low" things to do, there is a PLO8 DYM regular who, even if he is not in the hand, always types "YESSSS" when a player busts. That's one of those things, imo, that we think, but don't say/write. A little dignity & grace in defeat & victory is very very important. IMO, of course.
On the face of it, another disappointing effort, losing £15, despite winning the game count 22-18. But losing 3 from 4 @ £11 made all the difference - a £60 swing. This is standard variance, & nothing to be troubled overly about really, we need to measure over proper (much much larger) sample sizes to see the real results & performance.
A £67 loss over 2 days hurts, no denying that, but I just need to keep doing the right things, especially as to opening ranges, & I'll be fine. Even so, a disappointing month so far.
I'm working tonight, so no poker playing today, but I'll give of my best Friday to Monday inclusive, & that'll be March done & dusted.
I'm undecided if I shall continue with this Hi-Lo DYM challenge in April, I may try something different. If I end up with the account north of £1,200 on Monday night (last day of March) I'll have turned £200 into £1,200, for a clear £1,000 profit. Not exactly nosebleed stuff, but it has pleased me no end, just proving to myself that I could.
I ran into hands I would never expect to see in PLO8. J-9-9-8, 4-5-5-6, Q-J-6-6, K-Q-8-8, in each case, all-in pre-flop.
Initially, I do a little sigh. How could he? sorta thing. A nana-second later, the truth dawns. It is only because of people playing hands like this that I turn a little profit. Variance does it's thing, we all know that.
In a way, I'm glad they do, too. But a larger part of me wants people to understand, & play the 4 card games, better. That's part of what Sky Poker tries to do, too - try to help players poker £££'s go further.
Always conflicting thoughts & emotions.
Great fun though.
Poker is such a wonderful game. No matter how badly or well we play, we'll win or lose if variance is at the table.
Sheesh, I think I've had a passionate 15 year affair with poker, & variance, & now I've found the perfect partner, in the 4 card game. She's lovely.
So I lost 3 from 4 @ £11 last night. I ran into hands I would never expect to see in PLO8. J-9-9-8, 4-5-5-6, Q-J-6-6, K-Q-8-8, in each case, all-in pre-flop. Initially, I do a little sigh. How could he? sorta thing. A nana-second later, the truth dawns. It is only because of people playing hands like this that I turn a little profit. Variance does it's thing, we all know that. In a way, I'm glad they do, too. But a larger part of me wants people to understand, & play the 4 card games, better. That's part of what Sky Poker tries to do, too - try to help players poker £££'s go further. Always conflicting thoughts & emotions. Grwart fun though. Poker is such a wonderful game. No matter how badly or well we play, we'll win or lose if variance is at the table. Sheesh, I think I've had a passionate 15 year affair with poker, & variance, & now I've found the perfect partner, in the 4 card game. She's lovely. Posted by Tikay10
Were those hands at the £11 level? I may have to move up !
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So that was not so bad, & although I only drew the game-count 23-23, I won 4 from 5 @ £11, which made all the difference.
LOT of traffic, 46 games on a Monday is incred, & a rich haul of Reward Points, 195, so the 3,000 point threshold hoves nicely into sight ahead of schedule.
I have been treading water for a week now, the graph has gone almost flat. "Chartists" in the City, who use charts to predict the Footsie, & share prices, would suggest a period of turbulence is about to follow. Up turbulence, or down turbulence?
Had a nice surprise, when I found out by chance that I'm in line for a Bronze Leaderboard payment, at present I am in the middle of the £25 band. £50 of Reward Points, & £10 or £25 of Leaderboard money, makes a HUGE difference to me at the stakes I play. Fingers crossed.
Comical (?) moment last night.
There has been a lot of debate recently about the correct etiquette - if there is such a thing - as to how we play against AWAY players.
So, we are 4 handed, Melty is big chippie, the rest of us are all much of a muchness.
And Melty disconnects. Hmm, what now? Melty will probably win even if he stays AWAY, so the other 3 of us are fighting over 2 spots. Awkward......do we steal his blinds, or what?
At which moment, one of the three - a stranger in the PLO8 DYM games - types
faster
Someone types
?
Stranger types
play faster, quick, before he comes back.
Takes all types, eh?
PS - Melty re-connected, & won.
Tuesday 25th March
Played 44
Won 21
Lost 23
Split....
£3.30 - Played 29, Won 16, Lost 13
£5.50 - Played 9, won 2 lost 7
£11.00 - Played 6, won 2, Lost 4
PROFIT/LOSS on Day £61.20
PROFIT/LOSS per game £1.39
REWARD POINTS = 192
BANKROLL at close of Play = £1,267.59
REWARD POINTS at close of play = 2,921 (= £29.21)
Played 648
Won 366
Lost 282
Win-rate, January, 56.48%
PROFIT/LOSS in March, £118.83
Profit/Loss per game February = £0.18
Ugh.
Just kook at these.....
£5.50 - Played 9, won 2 lost 7
£11.00 - Played 6, won 2, Lost 4
Yikes. Shocker. I say, SHOCKER.
Of my first 15 games, I lost 12.
Next 15 games, I lost 9.
Luckily, I finished like a train, wining 12 of the last 14, or else the damage would have been even worse.
OK, I ran a bit bad, & I made several mistakes, too. But I seemed unable to stop the rot, & my head got into a bit of a tizz.
Need to sort that out.
Anyway, 5 sessions remain in March, & I have some ground to make up.
Keep out of my way, OK?
*Edit i may be a little tilty !
New player arrives on the tables last night. Everyone welcomed him, "gl" etc. The PLO8 players are a sort of little community of their own, incredibly friendly.
Soon, he types......
why so slow
Followed by
zzzzzzzzz
Then
ZZZZZZZZ
He played EVERY hand, & was soon monsta chippie, with half the chips in play. And busted first.
He turns up on the next table.
zzzzzzzz
y so slo?
ZZZZZZZZ
Rinse repeat, chip leader, first out.
Some wag types in the chat box....
well he needed an early night
I should not have laughed, really.
What is up with all this "hurry up" thing?
If he wants more action, better to play more tables imo.
Takes all sorts, I guess.
Anyway, never mind that, I've got a recovery mission to embark upon.
Shocker. Absolute shocker.
See you later.
Bit of good news for you - Dylan12 is playing these now.
Ooooh good news !
/>Dylan.
Addressing a few of those points.....
Yes, with the chippie "AWAY", & the other 3 all scrambling for 2 spots, it IS difficult, & yes, we all have to play our game. We just do. Not nice, but a fact of life.
Was "faster" man guilty of collusion?
Call it what you will, I don't really know. Hardest thing in the world to prove, really. I do know it was dirty, though, very dirty.
I saw a wonderful phrase elsewhere yesterday, which summed it up beautifully.
online pickpocket.
It's such a "low" thing to do.
Q-4-5-6 man?
Yes, a most remarkable open. Generally, many players struggle with "ranges" in PLO8. Can't think of much worse than Q-4-5-6 to be honest.
You can see why he continued though, he flopped a lovely inside wrap. Or he thought he had......
As a member of the more "traditional" way of playing PLO8, I firmly believe that playing for middle straights (e.g., 3-4-5-6-7) is the worst thing possible in PLO8. To hit our straight, a Low MUST come, and as many players chase Lows, we are almost never scooping. The game is about scoops. We can easily lose both ends with those sort of straights, too. In short, very little upside, & tons of downside.
I've also been playing more pots early doors recently. Too early to judge the results yet. Some weird holdings do turn up, that's for sure.
Talking of "low" things to do, there is a PLO8 DYM regular who, even if he is not in the hand, always types "YESSSS" when a player busts. That's one of those things, imo, that we think, but don't say/write. A little dignity & grace in defeat & victory is very very important. IMO, of course.
How did you get on last night?
Wednesday 26th March
Played 40
Won 22
Lost 18
Split....
£3.30 - Played 26, Won 15, Lost 11
£5.50 - Played 10, won 6 lost 4
£11.00 - Played 4, won 1, Lost 3
PROFIT/LOSS on Day £14.80
PROFIT/LOSS per game £0.37
REWARD POINTS = 168
BANKROLL at close of Play = £1,252.79
REWARD POINTS at close of play = 3,089 (= £46.34)
March to date........
Played 688
Won 388
Lost 300
Win-rate, January, 56.40%
PROFIT/LOSS in March, £104.03
Profit/Loss per game February = £0.15
On the face of it, another disappointing effort, losing £15, despite winning the game count 22-18. But losing 3 from 4 @ £11 made all the difference - a £60 swing. This is standard variance, & nothing to be troubled overly about really, we need to measure over proper (much much larger) sample sizes to see the real results & performance.
A £67 loss over 2 days hurts, no denying that, but I just need to keep doing the right things, especially as to opening ranges, & I'll be fine. Even so, a disappointing month so far.
I'm working tonight, so no poker playing today, but I'll give of my best Friday to Monday inclusive, & that'll be March done & dusted.
I'm undecided if I shall continue with this Hi-Lo DYM challenge in April, I may try something different. If I end up with the account north of £1,200 on Monday night (last day of March) I'll have turned £200 into £1,200, for a clear £1,000 profit. Not exactly nosebleed stuff, but it has pleased me no end, just proving to myself that I could.
So I lost 3 from 4 @ £11 last night.
I ran into hands I would never expect to see in PLO8. J-9-9-8, 4-5-5-6, Q-J-6-6, K-Q-8-8, in each case, all-in pre-flop.
Initially, I do a little sigh. How could he? sorta thing. A nana-second later, the truth dawns. It is only because of people playing hands like this that I turn a little profit. Variance does it's thing, we all know that.
In a way, I'm glad they do, too. But a larger part of me wants people to understand, & play the 4 card games, better. That's part of what Sky Poker tries to do, too - try to help players poker £££'s go further.
Always conflicting thoughts & emotions.
Great fun though.
Poker is such a wonderful game. No matter how badly or well we play, we'll win or lose if variance is at the table.
Sheesh, I think I've had a passionate 15 year affair with poker, & variance, & now I've found the perfect partner, in the 4 card game. She's lovely.
Were those hands at the £11 level?
I may have to move up !
Yup.
I nearly fainted when I saw them.
They were enough to beat me, though. Yikes.
I made the dumbest move ever ever ever last night.
4 handed, stacks are.....
Loosey Goosey 7,000
Steady Eddie 2,500
Old Bloke 2,000
AWAY player 500
Blinds are 100-200.
I just have to sit out here. I know that.
Loosey raises, I'm on 7 tables, & without thinking, I re-pot it with the nicest aces you ever saw, A-A-K-2 DS.
And Loosey looks me up. And busts me. Or, more correctly, I bust myself.
It cost me £5.50, big deal. But that HURT.