Hello PLO8 community. That is it I am done. It has been fun and great banter but losing is just not THAT much fun. It is obvious that I am just not good enough and to be fair I have not played well in any form of poker for a while and my brain is scrambled. Goodbye and good luck Nick
Hello PLO8 community. That is it I am done. It has been fun and great banter but losing is just not THAT much fun. It is obvious that I am just not good enough and to be fair I have not played well in any form of poker for a while and my brain is scrambled. Goodbye and good luck Nick Posted by pompeynic
Hi Nic, Sorry that you have not run too well. I'm sure others will be happy to give you some feedback and pointers to try and help you turn things around. My tuppence worth is that most of us play too many hands, after all look at Tikay, he plays about one hand every STT and he is a winning player.
If it's getting to you too much then have a break and come back when you feel like it again.
Good luck and I hope things turn around.
(Posted by Enut, who is also on a massive downswing - just look at my Sharkscope!)
Hello PLO8 community. That is it I am done. It has been fun and great banter but losing is just not THAT much fun. It is obvious that I am just not good enough and to be fair I have not played well in any form of poker for a while and my brain is scrambled. Goodbye and good luck Nick Posted by pompeynic
Nick! Just take a little break from PLO8, that's all you need I think. We've played a lot of tables together and I can't really remember seeing you do anything daft. Anyone can hit a bad run at this game, IMO it's the most difficult form of poker here to be consistently winning at. Many of the Regulars have negative ROIs, it isn't an easy game to win, so please, don't feel disheartened. If it makes you feel better, I ran super hot first part of my session today, 9 straight wins, then.. Whammy. Every great starting hand smashed to bits by any four cards rubbish, played by people in the strangest of ways. I often wonder if some who play the game get up at 4AM so they can drink for 15 hours before they start playing. Whatever you decide to do, chin up and all that. Best of luck to you Nick.
Like Macac I have played you a few times in hi lo and you are a tough opponent.
My advice is check your stats and see what your winning at and stick with that until you get your confidence back again.
In omaha if i dont win I always aim to lose with a good hand. So if you have a good hand be fearless.
You might look at choosing your opponents also as there are certain players I dont fare too well against so I try to avoid playing with a few of them at my table.
Maybe even try a few low stakes its amazing what a few wins can do to your confidence.
Hello PLO8 community. That is it I am done. It has been fun and great banter but losing is just not THAT much fun. It is obvious that I am just not good enough and to be fair I have not played well in any form of poker for a while and my brain is scrambled. Goodbye and good luck Nick Posted by pompeynic
Hi nic sorry i really have not played you enough too really have that much of an idea on how you play but the one thing i would say is just try get back too the basics and stick too it im sure that u will be able too turn it around as ger said try even looking at your previous games and look at who was playing when u win and who was on the table when you lose. and do a bit of bum hunting or just pick a table im on and then its only 2 u have too beat.
also try dropping down too the 60p or £1,15 games and start again from there and then u will have a lot more leeway too see the hands your opponents are getting it in with at a lot less cost and try and build your confidence up again. quite a few of the players who play the £3.30 and £5.50 games also play the lower stakes too. and 1 thing that has been getting drummed into me for a while is if it is a solid hand just get it in of course u will lose a few but overall you should win more than u will lose.
Make notes on players really does help..like the hands they get it all in with.do they slow play,do they barrel any card on the river and so on slowly u will build up a good reading on most players and then it is just a case of picking your spot.
I would agree with macac as well (hic) there is going too be alot of really bad play that gets rewarded but thats how it goes if we all played the game the way it should it would be very boring.
Anyway i hope you can turn things around and start enjoying the game again..all the best.. churchy
Slacking Mr Kendall ? Had to search for this page! How did March finish for you? Are you staying with the PLO8 DYM's? Oh and Mother was back last night and reckons you were too scared to come and play her ! :-) Posted by VespaPX
Ha!
Will do a full update, a March Report, + a 6 month Report, & what I plan to do next, either tonight, or tomorrow morning.
I will also reply at length to Pompeynic. We can sort that, no prob. I have a cunning plan......
(How typical of Team PLO8 that everyone was so supportive & kind, eh?).
I've been a bit waylaid with other stuff this week, & have not been playing poker in the evenings. I'm going offline today, too, now, as I have some personal (non-Sky Poker) stuff to sort today. I'm going up to London. On a train. To see someone about a dog. Sort of.
PS - Tell the PLO8 Crew I miss them all, especially the fun & bantering. (Except MOTHER, obv).
I go away for 2 weeks and look how standards have slipped
Get yourself sorted Mr K, stop chuntering around on other peoples threads, update your own and then slippers on, nice cup of coffee get the lappy out plonk yourself down on the sofa and PLAY SOME POKER!!
My goodness!! I go away for 2 weeks and look how standards have slipped Get yourself sorted Mr K, stop chuntering around on other peoples threads, update your own and then slippers on, nice cup of coffee get the lappy out plonk yourself down on the sofa and PLAY SOME POKER!! Phew rant over now breathe mother See you at the tables Mother PS I know you missed me xx Posted by Amarie
Morning Mother, & thank the Lord for a cheerful person.
It's been a bit awkward for me this week, what with this & that, so not played all week. I don't find it easy to keep good focus on 6 or 8 Tables & try to field forum questions at the same time. Some days I can barely bring myself to even open the Community, I play poker, & engage with others on Forums to enjoy our great game, but the chunter levels seem to just get worse & worse. I have quite a stressy job, as many of us do, & poker is my escape, where I come to relax, & unwind. I guess we are all different, & each to their own. I probably enjoy playing poker more than anyone, but it's an exercise in fun for me, & I don't take it too seriously, in truth.
Anyway, I'd best update my Challenge/results, reply to Pompeynic, & then discuss where I go from here.
Best regards to FATHER, I sometimes think life is a bit uphill, but crikey, I feel for him, what with you & THE DAUGHTER round his feet. He deserves a medal.
PS - You are right, I did miss you a bit, in much the same way as I'd miss piles.
In case you missed the headline numbers, I LOST at each of the three buy-in levels......
£3.30 - Played 28, Won 11,Lost 18
£5.50 - Played 12, won 4lost 8
£11.00 - Played 7, won 1, Lost 6
Included in that was a run of 15 (FIFTEEN) consecutive losing games. This, in a format where 50% of 6 runners get paid.
How is that even possible, lol? FIFTEEN consecutive losing games.
I'm very self-critical but I was not conscious of playing badly - perhaps a little too heavy on the aggro-pedal - but in a relatively low-variance game, it's not really likely that I could play my A-Game & lose so many games. So I guess I was making a good few mistakes.
If anyone had bet me I could lose 15 straight PLO8 DYM's, I'd have bitten their hand off, it's just not possible.
So, that's 6 months, & I think it's time to end this particular challenge, & move on to a new challenge.
I'm going to summarise everything (in approx terms) before putting it to bed. I'm therefore going to add in March's Reward Points, & also, I was very pleasantly surprised to get a £25 Bonus from the Bronze Leaderboard thing, so I'll include that as well. I know its not fashionable to say these things nowadays, but I thought the Gold/Silver/Bronze Leaderboards were really a first class idea, &, to my mind, a £25 Bonus just for playing the game I love is just wonderful.
I'm chuffed to bits with that, & I'll probably put it towards playing a WSOP PLOL8 Event if I can get to Vegas this year. I've played 3 so far, & cashed in 2, so a third cash, variance being what it is, is unlikely, but, you know, it's all about living that dream. I had a nice cash in the UKPC Omaha, too, so I've got me a bit of a bankroll to do Vegas with, all being well.
In total (approx), I think I played around 3,300 PLO8 DYM's games in the 6 months, so I made a profit of around £0.30 per DYM, with an average buy-in of about £5. Not exactly crushing, or setting the poker world on fire, but it pleased me immensely, especially given my age. I'm not competitive at NLH these days, which batters the self-esteem a bit, so this went down a treat.
Teaching myself to 8 table was satisfying, too. And if I can do it, anyone can.
Remarkably, of the £1,092 profit, I reckon around £300 came from Reward Points & sundry Promo Bonuses, so they added about 25%. Quite significant, really.
I've made SO many friends amongst the PLO8 Community, who, to my mind, are the friendliest, & most sporting bunch I've ever met in poker.
I'd like to namecheck some of them, but I'll forget a few, & get myself in trouble, so I'd better not do that.
There are some grerat Poker "Ambassadors" amongst them though, which is a grand thing to see when so many folks seem to take recreational poker a bit too serious.
We've revved up the PLO8 liquidity & traffic a treat, too, & I'm pleased I played a part in that. There can't be too many Sites that have that amount of PLO8 SNG traffic these days.
I keep seeing reference to DYM's being riddled with collusion & jiggery-pokery, & this week has not helped in that regard, of course.
But in those 3,000+ games I played, I saw no evidence of it at all. And believe me, I'd recognize it if it happened, I'm not exactly wet behind the ears as to the poker world, & I've been exposed elsewhere to all the various dodges that some folks get up to.
From time to time, I'd see someone play a hand SO badly, that it could look like collusion, but generally, if you scratch beneath the surface, instead of hooting & hollering on the Forum without proper evidence, you can find a reason for "odd" plays.
One chap limped from the SB, & then folded when the BB shoved his last HALF a Big Blind in. Collusion? Nope. He was 12 Tabling, & simply not paying attention. It happens, I've done it, we've all done it. We don't have to assume everyone is dishonest, I much prefer to start from the other end.
I did spot one multi-accounter though, as he repeatedly gave himself away by his chat, & everyone could see the score. I reported it, & he was never seen again.
And that was in a 3,000 game sample, so I don't think we need worry too much.
Comments
Sunday's results?
Ah yeah, been meaning to mention those.
Well, the thing is, things did not go quite as well as I'd hope.
Gory details tomorrow. And believe me, gory is seriously bad.
It is obvious that I am just not good enough and to be fair I have not played well in any form of poker for a while and my brain is scrambled.
Goodbye and good luck
Nick
If it's getting to you too much then have a break and come back when you feel like it again.
Good luck and I hope things turn around.
(Posted by Enut, who is also on a massive downswing - just look at my Sharkscope!)
If it makes you feel better, I ran super hot first part of my session today, 9 straight wins, then.. Whammy. Every great starting hand smashed to bits by any four cards rubbish, played by people in the strangest of ways. I often wonder if some who play the game get up at 4AM so they can drink for 15 hours before they start playing.
Whatever you decide to do, chin up and all that.
Best of luck to you Nick.
also try dropping down too the 60p or £1,15 games and start again from there and then u will have a lot more leeway too see the hands your opponents are getting it in with at a lot less cost and try and build your confidence up again. quite a few of the players who play the £3.30 and £5.50 games also play the lower stakes too. and 1 thing that has been getting drummed into me for a while is if it is a solid hand just get it in of course u will lose a few but overall you should win more than u will lose.
Make notes on players really does help..like the hands they get it all in with.do they slow play,do they barrel any card on the river and so on slowly u will build up a good reading on most players and then it is just a case of picking your spot.
I would agree with macac as well (hic) there is going too be alot of really bad play that gets rewarded but thats how it goes if we all played the game the way it should it would be very boring.
Anyway i hope you can turn things around and start enjoying the game again..all the best.. churchy
Had to search for this page!
How did March finish for you?
Are you staying with the PLO8 DYM's?
Oh and Mother was back last night and reckons you were too scared to come and play her ! :-)
Ha!
Will do a full update, a March Report, + a 6 month Report, & what I plan to do next, either tonight, or tomorrow morning.
I will also reply at length to Pompeynic. We can sort that, no prob. I have a cunning plan......
(How typical of Team PLO8 that everyone was so supportive & kind, eh?).
I've been a bit waylaid with other stuff this week, & have not been playing poker in the evenings. I'm going offline today, too, now, as I have some personal (non-Sky Poker) stuff to sort today. I'm going up to London. On a train. To see someone about a dog. Sort of.
PS - Tell the PLO8 Crew I miss them all, especially the fun & bantering. (Except MOTHER, obv).
Morning Mother, & thank the Lord for a cheerful person.
It's been a bit awkward for me this week, what with this & that, so not played all week. I don't find it easy to keep good focus on 6 or 8 Tables & try to field forum questions at the same time. Some days I can barely bring myself to even open the Community, I play poker, & engage with others on Forums to enjoy our great game, but the chunter levels seem to just get worse & worse. I have quite a stressy job, as many of us do, & poker is my escape, where I come to relax, & unwind. I guess we are all different, & each to their own. I probably enjoy playing poker more than anyone, but it's an exercise in fun for me, & I don't take it too seriously, in truth.
Anyway, I'd best update my Challenge/results, reply to Pompeynic, & then discuss where I go from here.
Best regards to FATHER, I sometimes think life is a bit uphill, but crikey, I feel for him, what with you & THE DAUGHTER round his feet. He deserves a medal.
PS - You are right, I did miss you a bit, in much the same way as I'd miss piles.
xx
Sunday 30th March
Played 47
Won 17
Lost 30
Split....
£3.30 - Played 28, Won 11, Lost 18
£5.50 - Played 12, won 4 lost 8
£11.00 - Played 7, won 1, Lost 6
PROFIT/LOSS on Day £97.40
PROFIT/LOSS per game £2.07
REWARD POINTS = 214
BANKROLL at close of Play = £1,205.19
REWARD POINTS at close of play = 3,640 (= £54.60)
March to date........
Played 815
Won 456
Lost 359
Win-rate, January, 55.95%
PROFIT/LOSS in March, £56.43
Profit/Loss per game February = £0.07
Yikes!
How do these things happen?
In case you missed the headline numbers, I LOST at each of the three buy-in levels......
£3.30 - Played 28, Won 11, Lost 18
£5.50 - Played 12, won 4 lost 8
£11.00 - Played 7, won 1, Lost 6
Included in that was a run of 15 (FIFTEEN) consecutive losing games. This, in a format where 50% of 6 runners get paid.
How is that even possible, lol? FIFTEEN consecutive losing games.
I'm very self-critical but I was not conscious of playing badly - perhaps a little too heavy on the aggro-pedal - but in a relatively low-variance game, it's not really likely that I could play my A-Game & lose so many games. So I guess I was making a good few mistakes.
If anyone had bet me I could lose 15 straight PLO8 DYM's, I'd have bitten their hand off, it's just not possible.
Monday 31st March
Played 21
Won 13
Lost 8
Split....
£3.30 - Played 8, Won 6, Lost 2
£5.50 - Played 9, won 5 lost 4
£11.00 - Played 4, won 2, Lost 2
PROFIT/LOSS on Day £6.10
PROFIT/LOSS per game £0.29
REWARD POINTS = 109
BANKROLL at close of Play = £1,211.29
REWARD POINTS at close of play = 3,754 (= £56.31)
March to date........
Played 836
Won 469
Lost 367
Win-rate, March, 56.10%
PROFIT/LOSS in March, £62.53
Profit/Loss per game March = £0.08
A much better day, only £6 profit, but won 13 from 21, which is about par for me, I'd say.
Shame to end the month on a bit of a bad few days, but over time, it all evens out.
So, that's 6 months, & I think it's time to end this particular challenge, & move on to a new challenge.
I'm going to summarise everything (in approx terms) before putting it to bed. I'm therefore going to add in March's Reward Points, & also, I was very pleasantly surprised to get a £25 Bonus from the Bronze Leaderboard thing, so I'll include that as well. I know its not fashionable to say these things nowadays, but I thought the Gold/Silver/Bronze Leaderboards were really a first class idea, &, to my mind, a £25 Bonus just for playing the game I love is just wonderful.
So.....
Starting Bankroll = £200
Closing Bankroll = £1,292.60
Profit = £1,092.60.
I'm chuffed to bits with that, & I'll probably put it towards playing a WSOP PLOL8 Event if I can get to Vegas this year. I've played 3 so far, & cashed in 2, so a third cash, variance being what it is, is unlikely, but, you know, it's all about living that dream. I had a nice cash in the UKPC Omaha, too, so I've got me a bit of a bankroll to do Vegas with, all being well.
In total (approx), I think I played around 3,300 PLO8 DYM's games in the 6 months, so I made a profit of around £0.30 per DYM, with an average buy-in of about £5. Not exactly crushing, or setting the poker world on fire, but it pleased me immensely, especially given my age. I'm not competitive at NLH these days, which batters the self-esteem a bit, so this went down a treat.
Teaching myself to 8 table was satisfying, too. And if I can do it, anyone can.
Remarkably, of the £1,092 profit, I reckon around £300 came from Reward Points & sundry Promo Bonuses, so they added about 25%. Quite significant, really.
So that's the money side.
Also.....
I've made SO many friends amongst the PLO8 Community, who, to my mind, are the friendliest, & most sporting bunch I've ever met in poker.
I'd like to namecheck some of them, but I'll forget a few, & get myself in trouble, so I'd better not do that.
There are some grerat Poker "Ambassadors" amongst them though, which is a grand thing to see when so many folks seem to take recreational poker a bit too serious.
We've revved up the PLO8 liquidity & traffic a treat, too, & I'm pleased I played a part in that. There can't be too many Sites that have that amount of PLO8 SNG traffic these days.
All good, really.
I keep seeing reference to DYM's being riddled with collusion & jiggery-pokery, & this week has not helped in that regard, of course.
But in those 3,000+ games I played, I saw no evidence of it at all. And believe me, I'd recognize it if it happened, I'm not exactly wet behind the ears as to the poker world, & I've been exposed elsewhere to all the various dodges that some folks get up to.
From time to time, I'd see someone play a hand SO badly, that it could look like collusion, but generally, if you scratch beneath the surface, instead of hooting & hollering on the Forum without proper evidence, you can find a reason for "odd" plays.
One chap limped from the SB, & then folded when the BB shoved his last HALF a Big Blind in. Collusion? Nope. He was 12 Tabling, & simply not paying attention. It happens, I've done it, we've all done it. We don't have to assume everyone is dishonest, I much prefer to start from the other end.
I did spot one multi-accounter though, as he repeatedly gave himself away by his chat, & everyone could see the score. I reported it, & he was never seen again.
And that was in a 3,000 game sample, so I don't think we need worry too much.