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ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR

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  • MP33MP33 Member Posts: 6,300
    edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR:
    I was in this game as you can see :) I think you can probably hang on, in this case you happened to be flipping which is alot better than it could have been. I know you're really short but everyone was in the same boat, and sometimes you just gotta get a blind steal in once per orbit to keep your head above water while they knock each other out and in this situation you had zero fold equity. So at best you're flipping. Not that it's a comfort to you but I managed to cash by the way lol, made a losing session slightly better than it was.
    Posted by Lambert180
    LOL  _ I actually tried to un-reg from it as it filled up as I could see there were more winning playeres than losing ones but just missed it

    The thing that made up my mind was that the guy wasnt playing optimum DYM tactics by limp folding when blinds were high and he,d min raised a cpl of times before on the button
  • Poker_FailPoker_Fail Member Posts: 1,755
    edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR:
    Won 1 and lost 2 since last post this was level 8 and still 6 of us left , which seems to happening more , but can give me your opinion on this one JC . teh guy who raised had limped a cpl of times and min raised a cpl of times Should i have waited for a better spot? Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance MP33 Small blind   200.00 200.00 1455.00 shammy161 Big blind   400.00 600.00 282.50   Your hole cards Q J       Doubleblow Fold         jimbhoy007 Fold         Lambert180 Fold         warren_m Raise   800.00 1400.00 2650.00 MP33 All-in   1455.00 2855.00 0.00 shammy161 All-in   282.50 3137.50 0.00 warren_m Call   855.00 3992.50 1795.00 MP33 Show Q J       shammy161 Show 2 5       warren_m Show 7 7       Flop     A K 3       Turn     8       River     4       shammy161 Win Straight to the 5 2047.50   2047.50 warren_m Win Pair of 7s 1945.00   3740.00
    Posted by MP33
    I'm certainly not as good as JC, but IMO you're at best flipping (Lambert said) and the BB is very shortstacked and definitely calling which just makes your odds worse. I would fold and shove next unopened pot.

    OBV best to see JC's opinion though
  • Poker_FailPoker_Fail Member Posts: 1,755
    edited February 2014
    Keep playing MTTs recently and not seperating my BR then not knowing how much to withdraw so I have officially started again... again, with £200 earlier, now £216

    Will still be playing MTTs and Satellites but am gonna make notes of my buyins so I actually know how i'm doing in DYMs

    GL all
  • MP33MP33 Member Posts: 6,300
    edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR:
    Keep playing MTTs recently and not seperating my BR then not knowing how much to withdraw so I have officially started again... again, with £200 earlier, now £216 Will still be playing MTTs and Satellites but am gonna make notes of my buyins so I actually know how i'm doing in DYMs GL all
    Posted by Poker_Fail
    Although they are my favourite games I hardly play them now which could explain my recent motivation problems, but will also be trying some sats with a different BR and some micro cash to hopefully cover them

    My reason for posting today thoughis to ask ----  Do you think the low stakes ( up to £5 ) have got much harder over last 6 months?

    i think the standard in general is going  up all the time - even at NL4 now you have plenty of regs trying to make money
  • MP33MP33 Member Posts: 6,300
    edited February 2014
    Q for JC

    No real reads although he,s a reg + winning player

    How would you play this . I was unsure from the start , but i figured if he had,t hit a Jack he might put in a small bet to get me off it, hence my all in
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    Oswald16 Small blind  25.00 25.00 1735.00
    bigJ80 Big blind  50.00 75.00 2085.00
      Your hole cards
    • 10
    • 10
         
    mkgunner Raise  200.00 275.00 1425.00
    MP33 Call  200.00 475.00 1725.00
    shergy3001 Fold     
    4673violet Fold     
    Oswald16 Fold     
    bigJ80 Fold     
    Flop
       
    • J
    • J
    • 3
         
    mkgunner Bet  200.00 675.00 1225.00
    MP33 All-in  1725.00 2400.00 0.00
    mkgunner All-in  1225.00 3625.00 0.00
    MP33 Unmatched bet  300.00 3325.00 300.00
    mkgunner Show
    • 9
    • 9
       
    MP33 Show
    • 10
    • 10
       
    Turn
       
    • 7
         
    River
       
    • 8
         
    MP33 Win Two Pairs, Jacks and 10s 3325.00  3625.00
  • JohnConnorJohnConnor Member Posts: 1,160
    edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR:
    Won 1 and lost 2 since last post this was level 8 and still 6 of us left , which seems to happening more , but can give me your opinion on this one JC . teh guy who raised had limped a cpl of times and min raised a cpl of times Should i have waited for a better spot? Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance MP33 Small blind   200.00 200.00 1455.00 shammy161 Big blind   400.00 600.00 282.50   Your hole cards Q J       Doubleblow Fold         jimbhoy007 Fold         Lambert180 Fold         warren_m Raise   800.00 1400.00 2650.00 MP33 All-in   1455.00 2855.00 0.00 shammy161 All-in   282.50 3137.50 0.00 warren_m Call   855.00 3992.50 1795.00 MP33 Show Q J       shammy161 Show 2 5       warren_m Show 7 7       Flop     A K 3       Turn     8       River     4       shammy161 Win Straight to the 5 2047.50   2047.50 warren_m Win Pair of 7s 1945.00   3740.00
    Posted by MP33
    Hi MP33, 

    I think you can just about wait for a better spot here, yeah. It is very close though I think and it's just because the guy shouldn't ever really be folding that I would prefer to wait. If you had a bit more fold equity then it would become an OK shove. Similarly I would probably make this play, given your reads, if I held an Ace or most pairs.
  • JohnConnorJohnConnor Member Posts: 1,160
    edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR:
    Q for JC No real reads although he,s a reg + winning player How would you play this . I was unsure from the start , but i figured if he had,t hit a Jack he might put in a small bet to get me off it, hence my all in Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance Oswald16 Small blind   25.00 25.00 1735.00 bigJ80 Big blind   50.00 75.00 2085.00   Your hole cards 10 10       mkgunner Raise   200.00 275.00 1425.00 MP33 Call   200.00 475.00 1725.00 shergy3001 Fold         4673violet Fold         Oswald16 Fold         bigJ80 Fold         Flop     J J 3       mkgunner Bet   200.00 675.00 1225.00 MP33 All-in   1725.00 2400.00 0.00 mkgunner All-in   1225.00 3625.00 0.00 MP33 Unmatched bet   300.00 3325.00 300.00 mkgunner Show 9 9       MP33 Show 10 10       Turn     7       River     8       MP33 Win Two Pairs, Jacks and 10s 3325.00   3625.00
    Posted by MP33
    Hi again,

    I think you played this pretty much perfectly, the only thing I do differently is raise 3x pre-flop but it's really a matter of personal preference. It's made a touch easier by the villain having a small stack but I'm still raising even if he has more chips. As you're aware the villain is a good reg so can probably mix up his play but I would definately be making a note on this play.
  • Poker_FailPoker_Fail Member Posts: 1,755
    edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR:
    In Response to Re: ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR : Although they are my favourite games I hardly play them now which could explain my recent motivation problems, but will also be trying some sats with a different BR and some micro cash to hopefully cover them My reason for posting today thoughis to ask ----  Do you think the low stakes ( up to £5 ) have got much harder over last 6 months? i think the standard in general is going  up all the time - even at NL4 now you have plenty of regs trying to make money
    Posted by MP33
    I have only been playing since march so can't really answer this as I have been improving, although in the last month I have seen a LOT more games reaching levels 6 + 7 with nobody knocked out so probably a yes.
  • JohnConnorJohnConnor Member Posts: 1,160
    edited February 2014
    Fantastic little session where I ran like an absolute train. Is it wrong that I still get excited about hands like this in £3.30 DYMs?:
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    JohnConnor Small blind  50.00 50.00 1850.00
    tiltswtch Big blind  100.00 150.00 2175.00
     Your hole cards
    • 5
    • J
       
    ally44 Call  100.00 250.00 800.00
    zhuzh All-in  765.00 1015.00 0.00
    R4TZ Call  765.00 1780.00 3890.00
    loramski All-in  1505.00 3285.00 0.00
    JohnConnor Fold     
    tiltswtch Fold     
    ally44 All-in  800.00 4085.00 0.00
    R4TZ Call  740.00 4825.00 3150.00
    ally44 Show
    • 8
    • 8
       
    zhuzh Show
    • Q
    • A
       
    R4TZ Show
    • K
    • J
       
    loramski Show
    • A
    • A
       
    Flop
      
    • 4
    • 3
    • K
       
    Turn
      
    • 6
       
    River
      
    • J
       
    R4TZ Win Two Pairs, Kings and Jacks 4825.00  7975.00
    I don't think so. Anyway:

    Played 20 £3.30s W 17 L 3
    Bankroll - £105.32

    Had a run of 14 straight wins at the beginning which, coupled with any wins at the end of the last session, should have been my best run ever I think. After an initial miscalculation I've just realised that I only need £110 to move up to the £5.50s, so I'm nearly there! I thought this was going to be one of the longest steps (time/no. of games-wise) but it looks like it could be the shortest. Hope I haven't just jinxed it, pretty excited with where I am at the minute. Hope to get a good grind in on Saturday where hopefully I'll be able to make the jump to the next level... 
  • belsibubbelsibub Member Posts: 2,527
    edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR:
    Fantastic little session where I ran like an absolute train. Is it wrong that I still get excited about hands like this in £3.30 DYMs?: Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance JohnConnor Small blind   50.00 50.00 1850.00 tiltswtch Big blind   100.00 150.00 2175.00   Your hole cards 5 J       ally44 Call   100.00 250.00 800.00 zhuzh All-in   765.00 1015.00 0.00 R4TZ Call   765.00 1780.00 3890.00 loramski All-in   1505.00 3285.00 0.00 JohnConnor Fold         tiltswtch Fold         ally44 All-in   800.00 4085.00 0.00 R4TZ Call   740.00 4825.00 3150.00 ally44 Show 8 8       zhuzh Show Q A       R4TZ Show K J       loramski Show A A       Flop     4 3 K       Turn     6       River     J       R4TZ Win Two Pairs, Kings and Jacks 4825.00   7975.00 I don't think so. Anyway: Played 20 £3.30s W 17 L 3 Bankroll - £105.32 Had a run of 14 straight wins at the beginning which, coupled with any wins at the end of the last session, should have been my best run ever I think. After an initial miscalculation I've just realised that I only need £110 to move up to the £5.50s, so I'm nearly there! I thought this was going to be one of the longest steps (time/no. of games-wise) but it looks like it could be the shortest. Hope I haven't just jinxed it, pretty excited with where I am at the minute. Hope to get a good grind in on Saturday where hopefully I'll be able to make the jump to the next level... 
    Posted by JohnConnor

    Have'nt seen a game like this for ages n1.Every game i play goes to level 8-9.  
  • Poker_FailPoker_Fail Member Posts: 1,755
    edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR:
    Fantastic little session where I ran like an absolute train. Is it wrong that I still get excited about hands like this in £3.30 DYMs?: Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance JohnConnor Small blind   50.00 50.00 1850.00 tiltswtch Big blind   100.00 150.00 2175.00   Your hole cards 5 J       ally44 Call   100.00 250.00 800.00 zhuzh All-in   765.00 1015.00 0.00 R4TZ Call   765.00 1780.00 3890.00 loramski All-in   1505.00 3285.00 0.00 JohnConnor Fold         tiltswtch Fold         ally44 All-in   800.00 4085.00 0.00 R4TZ Call   740.00 4825.00 3150.00 ally44 Show 8 8       zhuzh Show Q A       R4TZ Show K J       loramski Show A A       Flop     4 3 K       Turn     6       River     J       R4TZ Win Two Pairs, Kings and Jacks 4825.00   7975.00 I don't think so. Anyway: Played 20 £3.30s W 17 L 3 Bankroll - £105.32 Had a run of 14 straight wins at the beginning which, coupled with any wins at the end of the last session, should have been my best run ever I think. After an initial miscalculation I've just realised that I only need £110 to move up to the £5.50s, so I'm nearly there! I thought this was going to be one of the longest steps (time/no. of games-wise) but it looks like it could be the shortest. Hope I haven't just jinxed it, pretty excited with where I am at the minute. Hope to get a good grind in on Saturday where hopefully I'll be able to make the jump to the next level... 
    Posted by JohnConnor
    Very nice run JC! you'll be up to 1k in no time!
  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited February 2014
    Yeah very nice run JC. My night was about the opposite to yours lol. Couldn't win a race when I started miles ahead eg. KK v 22, flops a 2 lol, and if that didn't happen, I shoved and walked into a monster but oh well, managed to stop the losses a bit near the end. I'll be updating my thread now.

    But anyway, don't wanna rain on our parade. Very nice work, impressive how big your BR is already, won't be happy if you catch up with me after how much of a head start I had! lol.
  • splashiessplashies Member Posts: 3,680
    edited February 2014
    Great going JC...see you back at the £11's soon!
  • stretch83stretch83 Member Posts: 154
    edited February 2014
    Very nice work JC!  I'm off for the weekend, but gl all, may your bankrolls all swell with success!
  • MP33MP33 Member Posts: 6,300
    edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR:
    In Response to Re: ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR : Hi again, I think you played this pretty much perfectly, the only thing I do differently is raise 3x pre-flop but it's really a matter of personal preference. It's made a touch easier by the villain having a small stack but I'm still raising even if he has more chips. As you're aware the villain is a good reg so can probably mix up his play but I would definately be making a note on this play.
    Posted by JohnConnor
    Cheers for advice

    This is probably one of the reasons i,m going wrong.

    Since last session won  1 and lost last 3 on trot. I had a brk for a cpl of weeks and since ive come back , just cant seem to get anything going  and i dont feel my play has been that gr8 either
  • Poker_FailPoker_Fail Member Posts: 1,755
    edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR:
    I had a brk for a cpl of weeks and since ive come back , just cant seem to get anything going  and i dont feel my play has been that gr8 either
    Posted by MP33
    Play a few £1.15s until you fell like you're playing properly, they're great for confidence boosting!

    I havn't been able to concentrate on DYMs properly atm, after winning £16 on wednesday I lost about £14 yesterday through a couple outdraws, but somehorrible decisions by me at times.

    I took a break from DYMs and opened a couple cash tables +£44 so gonna take a shot at the £11s tonight, hopefully the increase in stake will help keep me motivated.

    EDIT: First game of the day £11, 2nd hand get it all in KK vs AK he binks, play a £5.50 we both have a pair of 10s, I have him outkicked, he hit's 2nd pair on the river. Demoralised... played cash up £45

    Maybe I should just stick to cash for a while lol, but anyway, I now have £274 so have a bit more of a cushion if I do start playing the £11s properly.
  • JohnConnorJohnConnor Member Posts: 1,160
    edited February 2014
    Decent night where the result is better than I thought it would be, tbh, I was pretty tired throughout and had to end early. I moved up to £5.50s mid-session. The standard is noticably better than the £3.30s and I already encountered a couple of proper regs, nothing too worrying though. Play is also generally tighter. I played a total of 31 £3.30s (provided I don't fall back) to move through that level, which I'm extremely pleased with, notwithstanding the fact that I ran extremely well pretty much throughout.

    Played 11 £3.30s W 6 L 5
    Played 20 £5.50s W 13 L 7
    Bankroll - £125.02
    Poker points - 1182
    League position - 26th
  • MP33MP33 Member Posts: 6,300
    edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR:
    Decent night where the result is better than I thought it would be, tbh, I was pretty tired throughout and had to end early. I moved up to £5.50s mid-session. The standard is noticably better than the £3.30s and I already encountered a couple of proper regs, nothing too worrying though. Play is also generally tighter. I played a total of 31 £3.30s (provided I don't fall back) to move through that level, which I'm extremely pleased with, notwithstanding the fact that I ran extremely well pretty much throughout. Played 11 £3.30s W 6 L 5 Played 20 £5.50s W 13 L 7 Bankroll - £125.02 Poker points - 1182 League position - 26th
    Posted by JohnConnor
    LOL  ( i,ll be avoiding you if i can )

    Just wondered what you thought of this hand in level 1. Did i scare him off to early with the min raise and i,m guessing you wouldnt advocate getting it all in pre against an unknown as your probably flipping and thats not what u want in DYM,s or is there a case for it

    How would you play this  from the button - Cheers
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    vance1969 Small blind  10.00 10.00 1990.00
    THE_KURGAN Big blind  20.00 30.00 1980.00
      Your hole cards
    • K
    • A
         
    BECKS222 Call  20.00 50.00 1980.00
    WAFFLE37 Fold     
    SWH Fold     
    MP33 Raise  60.00 110.00 1940.00
    vance1969 Call  50.00 160.00 1940.00
    THE_KURGAN Raise  120.00 280.00 1860.00
    BECKS222 Fold     
    MP33 Call  80.00 360.00 1860.00
    vance1969 Call  80.00 440.00 1860.00
    Flop
       
    • 6
    • 2
    • 10
         
    vance1969 Check     
    THE_KURGAN Bet  220.00 660.00 1640.00
    MP33 Call  220.00 880.00 1640.00
    vance1969 Fold     
    Turn
       
    • 9
         
    THE_KURGAN Bet  300.00 1180.00 1340.00
    MP33 Raise  600.00 1780.00 1040.00
    THE_KURGAN Fold     
    MP33 Muck     
    MP33 Win  1480.00  2520.00
    MP33 Return  300.00 0.00 2820.00
  • MP33MP33 Member Posts: 6,300
    edited February 2014
    Who says you cant fold Aces

    managed to cash in nxt hand

    ActionCardsAmountPotBalanceBECKS222 Small blind  150.00 150.00 2050.00 MP33 Big blind  300.00 450.00 2075.00   Your hole cards A A       vance1969 Fold     THE_KURGAN Raise  900.00 1350.00 6185.00 BECKS222 Fold     MP33 Fold     THE_KURGAN Muck     THE_KURGAN Win  750.00  6935.00 THE_KURGAN Return  600.00 0.00 7535.00

    It doesnt show it but the nest BB has 1 BB + 40 chips

    Ps I,ve just managed to get my msn on again and will put my address for anyone else who uses it and wants to discuss any hands etc -

    edit = cant find it at the minute but im on skype as well as joebananas33
  • MP33MP33 Member Posts: 6,300
    edited February 2014
    Q for JC

    Went out on the bubble with this hand : Would you have done the same?
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    ONLY191 Small blind  200.00 200.00 1890.00
    GoonerLol Big blind  400.00 600.00 2660.00
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • 3
         
    BIRDYBAUGH Fold     
    MP33 All-in  1955.00 2555.00 0.00
    ONLY191 Fold     
    GoonerLol Call  1555.00 4110.00 1105.00
    GoonerLol Show
    • 9
    • A
       
    MP33 Show
    • A
    • 3
       
    Flop
       
    • 4
    • 4
    • 2
         
    Turn
       
    • K
         
    River
       
    • 7
         
    GoonerLol Win Pair of 4s 4110.00  5215.00
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