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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    Good Article.

    In the immediate aftermath of the referendum, it was by no means plain to us that remain was still a legitimate argument, and yet the leave plan was so flaky, so narrowly won, so riddled with nefarious associations that have since come into focus – racist advertising, Russian troll bots, lying, cheating, dodgy data – that to surrender to it seemed like an abnegation of civic responsibility. It became obvious that demos and pamphlets were necessary but insufficient. Deeper democratic channels had to make the case, in concert.

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/there’s-only-one-way-to-stop-brexit-from-the-ground-up/ar-BBMAm6C?ocid=spartandhp
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    goldon said:

    Be Very Afraid ....... Nigel Farage is back on the case (by popular demand)


    No takers for £25,000 portrait of Nigel Farage

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45347194
  • tai-gartai-gar Member Posts: 2,688
    If the portrait was done on a dart board they might have some bidders.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    tai-gar said:

    If the portrait was done on a dart board they might have some bidders.

    Good thinking.
  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 9,061
    Bad Pictures never sell ..... unless you're
  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 9,061
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    The absolute biggest common sense reason for voting remain was that Nigel Farage was pro Leave.
  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 9,061
    The Majority disagreed with you and voted with Nigel ....... they had 40 years of EU to make up their minds which way to vote ....... easy ...... look around what do you see.
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,780
    Should be easy to force a deal out of the EU now.
    All Mrs May needs to say is "Give me a deal or I will dance..."
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    Essexphil said:

    Should be easy to force a deal out of the EU now.
    All Mrs May needs to say is "Give me a deal or I will dance..."

    Didn't she used to be in Pans People?
  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 9,061
    Your Argument to remain is very "Haysie" years of decline said leave.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    goldon said:

    The Majority disagreed with you and voted with Nigel ....... they had 40 years of EU to make up their minds which way to vote ....... easy ...... look around what do you see.

    A very small majority voted in favour of leaving. Many of whom clearly blame the EU for stuff that our Government is responsible for.
    They are going to be very, very, very, very, disappointed.
  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 9,061
    feel bad ...... is not feel good.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    We are taking back control of our borders, money and laws, according to Nigel.
    When in reality when we take back control of our borders, that means leaving them completely open to avoid massive delays. We will turn the M20 into a car park, including 13 miles of porta loos. Taking back control of our borders is code for chaos.

    We will take back control of our money, but its just going to be worth a lot less. That makes your holidays more expensive, bigger credit card charges, bigger phone charges, no free medical treatment, and you might have to get a visa.

    If we want a trade deal then we will be subject to EU law.

    Sounds good to me.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    goldon said:

    Your Argument to remain is very "Haysie" years of decline said leave.

    I am being completely serious, not taking the mickey, or trying to embarrass you, but as a leave voter, forgetting about the rhetoric, could you name one aspect of your life that you expect to improve after we leave?
  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 9,061
    Haysie you are Institutionalized by the EU break out of the Prison.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    goldon said:

    Haysie you are Institutionalized by the EU break out of the Prison.

    What will be better for you?
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    goldon said:

    Haysie you are Institutionalized by the EU break out of the Prison.

    Lots of leave voters don't actually seem to know why they did it.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    Another project fear story that is actually happening.

    $71 billion Japanese giant Panasonic is pulling its European headquarters out of the UK — and Brexit is to blame.
    Panasonic's announcement follows a warning from the Japanese business lobby that companies are "seriously concerned" about continuing Brexit uncertainty.


    Other Japanese companies set to follow.

    A few Japanese money related organizations have said they mean to move their primary EU bases from London.
    Japan is a noteworthy financial specialist in the UK, where in excess of 800 Japanese organizations utilize in excess of 100,000 individuals.
    In any case, budgetary firms including Nomura, Sumitomo Mitsui and Daiwa have just said they will never again keep up their EU central station in London.

    The Japanese government has previously warned that its companies could move their business elsewhere in Europe following Brexit. Toyota (TM), Nissan (NSANF) and Honda (HMC) are all heavily invested in the United Kingdom.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 169,670
    HAYSIE said:

    Another project fear story that is actually happening.

    $71 billion Japanese giant Panasonic is pulling its European headquarters out of the UK — and Brexit is to blame.
    Panasonic's announcement follows a warning from the Japanese business lobby that companies are "seriously concerned" about continuing Brexit uncertainty.



    Yup, it is happening - but that's a little misleading, to be fair.

    Panasonic's "London HQ" is actually just an accounting office, based in London for regulatory reasons. It employs 30 staff, of whom 10 may lose their jobs.

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