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    rainman215rainman215 Member Posts: 1,186
    Good Afternoon Haysie, I would want a 3rd referendum.
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,163

    Good Afternoon Haysie, I would want a 3rd referendum.

    I expect you would.
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,163

    Good Afternoon Haysie, I would want a 3rd referendum.

    Good Afternoon Haysie, I would want a 3rd referendum.

    Anyone that's had a film named after them can have what they want.
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    EvilPinguEvilPingu Member Posts: 3,462
    HAYSIE said:


    The referendum itself was really poorly thought out. As far as public knowledge on the topic was concerned, it could just have easily been on nuclear fusion.

    I definitely knew more about nuclear fusion than I knew about pros/cons of Brexit, pre-referendum.

    The whole buildup to the referendum was awful, on both sides.
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,163
    EvilPingu said:

    HAYSIE said:


    The referendum itself was really poorly thought out. As far as public knowledge on the topic was concerned, it could just have easily been on nuclear fusion.

    I definitely knew more about nuclear fusion than I knew about pros/cons of Brexit, pre-referendum.

    The whole buildup to the referendum was awful, on both sides.
    David Cameron will go down in history as the **** who called the referendum.
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,163
    Liam Fox our genius Trade Secretary has written an article in todays Sunday times. The headline is "No deal Brexit is odds on". This is the man that previously said that this would be the "easiest deal in history".

    This is where the genius comes in, he includes in the article that confronting the EU with the possibility of no deal was part of the Governments negotiating strategy. Lets hope nobody from the EU reads that part of the article.

    Genius.
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,163
    So much for the massive US free trade deal.

    The UK will struggle to secure a free trade deal with the US without making major concessions on agriculture according to the former UK ambassador in Washington.
    Sir Peter Westmacott warned that the Trump administration was playing "hardball" and would likely demand that the UK allowed the import of products such as hormone-treated US beef and chlorine-washed chickens.
    That could do "serious damage" to the UK's farming industry, he said.
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,163
    Does anyone know of anything tangible that is likely to be better after Brexit?
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,163
    There is now a majority of the electorate in favour of remaining.
    100 constituencies that voted leave, now in favour of remaining.
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,163
    Government given two weeks to respond to Brexit legal challenge.


    Government lawyers have been given a two-week deadline to respond to the latest legal challenge over the legitimacy of the Brexit vote.
    A judicial review has been launched by the UK in EU Challenge group, which represents Britons living in France, Italy and Spain.

    It argues that the Electoral Commission’s findings on BeLeave and Vote Leave, which resulted in two officials being reported to the police and fines being imposed, mean the 2016 EU referendum was not a lawful, fair or free vote.
    On Thursday, Mr Justice Warby issued a high court order requiring those representing Theresa May and the commission to submit a summary of their legal defence by 4pm on 31 August.
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,163
    London mayor Khan consults disaster planners over no-deal Brexit


    LONDON (Reuters) - London's mayor Sadiq Khan said on Friday he had asked the organization that deals with militant attacks and disasters in the British capital to assess the impact of a "no-deal" Brexit on access to medicines and food and on law and order.
    Khan said he would consult the London Resilience Forum, which plans responses to disasters such as the Grenfell Tower Fire, about the implications for Britain of crashing out of the European Union without a deal, saying that such a "catastrophic" outcome looked more likely than ever.
    Britain is due to leave the EU in March 2019, and with time running out to secure agreement on future ties, both British and European politicians are warning of the increased chances of a "no-deal" Brexit.
    "Even ministers now admit that crashing out of the EU with no deal is now more likely than ever," Khan said in a statement. "We are now left with no choice but to plan for a no-deal scenario."
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,163
    A no-deal Brexit won't mean that a UK-US trade pact is going to happen anytime soon.

    Staunch Brexiteers have tried to “sell” a hard Brexit by highlighting that it will allow Britain to seal its own global trade deals with the likes of the US, China, and Japan without any intervention from other countries, such as those in the EU

    First up, it should go without saying that carving a trade deal is a complex operation. Taking one of the most recent, successful trade deals into account, the EU-Canada free trade deal (CETA) took seven years to put together. In January last year, Jason Langrish, the man who helped “give birth” to that deal warned that “there is no mutually beneficial deal available between the UK and the EU” that can be discussed within the two-year negotiation period, which ends on 29 March next year, and that forging any trade deals will be harder than the UK is making out.

    The complexity is even more acute when it comes to trying to pair up interests from the US and UK, especially on major issues like Britain’s National Health Service (NHS). The NHS is a public institution, funded by the taxpayer, allowing anyone on British soil to obtain free healthcare. A trade deal with the US, which has practically the polar opposite approach to healthcare, also risks breaking up the NHS— something that would mark a seismic change to Brits’ way of life and would be deeply unpopular for any party to propose or support.

    Secondly, the US’s enthusiasm for putting Britain at the “front of the queue” may change after it sees how Brexit pans out for the nation. Some estimates say that a hard/no-deal Brexit would cost public finances £80 billion while some say it will lead to a £100 billion blow to the UK economy. Marjorie Chorlins, the US Chamber of Commerce’s head of European affairs, said in a statement that the country’s investment in Britain was made “so companies could seamlessly access the much larger EU single market” and warned that it’s “very hard to know” what future relations, let alone what a trade deal would look like.

    Thirdly, as The Economist pointed out, “Congress struggles to pass trade deals. With a tariff-loving populist in the White House, these are not the best of times. Realistically, says an insider, any window for trade deals will close months before the presidential election in 2020.” And that is the date that the UK would have officially completed its transition period of severing ties with the EU and will be start sealing deals.
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    VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,028
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-23/britain-faces-risk-of-sperm-shortage-in-event-of-no-deal-brexit

    Quite suprised that there would be a shortage....lots of t*ssers in the Remain camp.
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    EvilPinguEvilPingu Member Posts: 3,462
    VespaPX said:

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-23/britain-faces-risk-of-sperm-shortage-in-event-of-no-deal-brexit

    Quite suprised that there would be a shortage....lots of t*ssers in the Remain camp.

    Oh boy am I glad this thread got bumped again...
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,163
    VespaPX said:

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-23/britain-faces-risk-of-sperm-shortage-in-event-of-no-deal-brexit

    Quite suprised that there would be a shortage....lots of t*ssers in the Remain camp.

    You have mixed up your camps.
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    goldongoldon Member Posts: 8,507
    Be Very Afraid ....... Nigel Farage is back on the case (by popular demand)


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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,163
    goldon said:

    Be Very Afraid ....... Nigel Farage is back on the case (by popular demand)


    I would dispute the by popular demand bit.
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,163
    Celebrations in Downing St. today.
    Mrs May has concluded our first post Brexit trade deal.
    It is with 6 African countries.
    It just happens to be exactly the same as their current deal with the EU.
    So rather than being a new trade deal, it is one we already had.
    Whoopeeee.
    You just couldn't make it up, could you?
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    goldongoldon Member Posts: 8,507
    Thought, Leave was Leave, only if you vote Remain. As you've all voted leave this Government will fudge, stall, find other distractions to delay the process till next General Election. L.B.C. have the answer ....... The Nigel Farage chat Show. Donald likes him.
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,163
    goldon said:

    Thought, Leave was Leave, only if you vote Remain. As you've all voted leave this Government will fudge, stall, find other distractions to delay the process till next General Election. L.B.C. have the answer ....... The Nigel Farage chat Show. Donald likes him.

    The fact that Donald Trump likes him tells you all you need to know about Nigel Farage.
    As it stands we will leave the EU at the end of March next year, either with a deal or without, whether the Government fudges and stalls, or not.

    Getting a deal will probably include a transition period until the end of 2020, but the current position is that we leave at the end of March next year, 2 years after implementing Article 50.
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