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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 34,842
    MUST WATCH: Brexiteer Jacob Rees Mogg humiliates Academic 'expert' on EU Law...or does he?


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uth445QP2vE
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 34,842
    UK would regret no-deal Brexit 'for ever' - Greg Clark





    LONDON (Reuters) - Britain would permanently regret leaving the European Union without a deal, and parliament needs to reach a decision to stop this in the next two weeks, business secretary Greg Clark said in a newspaper interview on Saturday.
    Clark's comments in The Times come as the paper reported government documents warning Britain's transport system could get overwhelmed after a no-deal Brexit, while The Guardian said officials feared mountains of rotting waste and animal slurry.
    Britain is due to leave the EU on March 29, but members of parliament last month comprehensively rejected the exit deal Prime Minister Theresa May reached with Brussels, and Brussels this week turned down May's request for renegotiation.
    Without a deal Britain risked major disruption to trade with the EU, cutting British business out of pan-European supply chains, Clark warned.
    "If we make what I think would be a mistake that we would regret for ever, it would be in the history books just like the achievements of the first industrial revolution," Clark said.

    https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/uk-regret-no-deal-brexit-ever-business-secretary-115730828.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 34,842
    Nissan 'U-turn' expected on new X-Trail SUV in Sunderland

    Nissan is expected to announce that it is cancelling a planned investment at its plant in Sunderland.
    In 2016 the car maker said it would build the X-Trail SUV in Sunderland after receiving "assurances" from the government over Brexit.
    The company is expected to say investment will be now be pulled, rather than existing work being halted.
    Labour MP for Houghton and Sunderland South, Bridget Phillipson, spoke of her concern at the prospect.





    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-47102708
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 34,842
    PM 'could call June election' and vows to 'battle for Britain'

    Theresa May could be planning for a general election in June, according to reports, as the prime minister promised to "battle for Britain" during talks with Brussels.
    Downing Street advisers are understood to have drawn up plans to extend Article 50 - the clause which triggered the UK's withdrawal from the EU, then secure the backing of parliament for a new Brexit deal in April before calling a general election in June this year.
    Sources quoted in the Mail on Sunday and the Sunday Times said the plan would protect the prime minister from being forced out of office by those who want a new leader to negotiate the second stage of the UK's exit - a new trade deal.






    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brexit/pm-could-call-june-election-and-vows-to-battle-for-britain/ar-BBT60QL?ocid=spartanntp
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 34,842
    Plan to evacuate the Queen after a no-deal Brexit
    Whitehall has drawn up secret plans to evacuate the Queen in the event of riots following a no-deal Brexit



    The Queen and other senior royals will be evacuated from London in the event of riots triggered by a no-deal Brexit, under secret plans being drawn up by Whitehall.
    Emergency proposals to rescue the royal family during the Cold War have been “repurposed” in recent weeks, as the risk continues to rise of the UK crashing out of the EU without a deal before next month’s deadline.
    The plans, which were originally intended to be put into action in the event of a nuclear attack from the Soviet Union, would see the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh moved out of London to a secret location, which The Sunday Times has agreed not to disclose.
    “These emergency evacuation plans have been in existence since the…


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/plan-to-evacuate-the-queen-after-a-no-deal-brexit-35hft7ctw

  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 34,842


    Rebel Labour MPs poised to quit Corbyn's party to start new centrist force with Remain Tories
    Around six Labour MPs said to be mulling a move to breakaway from Corbyn
    They could sit as independents and hope that Remain Tories would join them
    Together with Lib Dem politicians the group could be a new centrist party
    But the idea has been repeatedly discussed before and never come to fruition






    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6662469/Rebel-Labour-MPs-poised-quit-Corbyns-party.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ito=1490&ns_campaign=1490
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 34,842
    Boris Johnson dumps his Brexit papers in petrol station bin: 70 pages of notes claim there is 'no strategy' for no-deal Brexit and key May aide wants a new referendum
    Boris allegedly stuffed notes in the trash can in the South West on January 21
    Several pages apparently fell and were picked up by a member of the public
    The 54-year-old purportedly proposed that there is 'no strategy' in the notes





    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6662481/Boris-Johnson-dumps-Brexit-papers-petrol-station-bin.html
  • dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793
    HAYSIE said:

    Plan to evacuate the Queen after a no-deal Brexit
    Whitehall has drawn up secret plans to evacuate the Queen in the event of riots following a no-deal Brexit



    The Queen and other senior royals will be evacuated from London in the event of riots triggered by a no-deal Brexit, under secret plans being drawn up by Whitehall.
    Emergency proposals to rescue the royal family during the Cold War have been “repurposed” in recent weeks, as the risk continues to rise of the UK crashing out of the EU without a deal before next month’s deadline.
    The plans, which were originally intended to be put into action in the event of a nuclear attack from the Soviet Union, would see the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh moved out of London to a secret location, which The Sunday Times has agreed not to disclose.
    “These emergency evacuation plans have been in existence since the…


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/plan-to-evacuate-the-queen-after-a-no-deal-brexit-35hft7ctw

    I'd be in favour of them doing that now :D
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 34,842
    edited February 2019
    Astute Brexiteers?

    Or the blind leading the blind?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPK0qQZo4JQ
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 34,842

    HAYSIE said:

    Plan to evacuate the Queen after a no-deal Brexit
    Whitehall has drawn up secret plans to evacuate the Queen in the event of riots following a no-deal Brexit



    The Queen and other senior royals will be evacuated from London in the event of riots triggered by a no-deal Brexit, under secret plans being drawn up by Whitehall.
    Emergency proposals to rescue the royal family during the Cold War have been “repurposed” in recent weeks, as the risk continues to rise of the UK crashing out of the EU without a deal before next month’s deadline.
    The plans, which were originally intended to be put into action in the event of a nuclear attack from the Soviet Union, would see the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh moved out of London to a secret location, which The Sunday Times has agreed not to disclose.
    “These emergency evacuation plans have been in existence since the…


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/plan-to-evacuate-the-queen-after-a-no-deal-brexit-35hft7ctw

    I'd be in favour of them doing that now :D
    Quite a few people would.
  • madprofmadprof Member Posts: 3,391
    I occasionally wondered what Goldon looks like
    HAYSIE said:

    Nissan 'U-turn' expected on new X-Trail SUV in Sunderland

    Nissan is expected to announce that it is cancelling a planned investment at its plant in Sunderland.
    In 2016 the car maker said it would build the X-Trail SUV in Sunderland after receiving "assurances" from the government over Brexit.
    The company is expected to say investment will be now be pulled, rather than existing work being halted.
    Labour MP for Houghton and Sunderland South, Bridget Phillipson, spoke of her concern at the prospect.



    Irony-my favourite soh

    Unfortunately, this will be the first of many strategic withdrawals of large companies who, having had access to massive govt subsidies and a gateway to Europe, will leave this 'island world power ' very soon.

    I wonder how many of the 61% in Sunderland who voted for leave work-or their extended families do- for Nissan.

    They always say " be careful what you wish for..."


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-47102708

  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 34,842
    madprof said:

    I occasionally wondered what Goldon looks like
    HAYSIE said:

    Nissan 'U-turn' expected on new X-Trail SUV in Sunderland

    Nissan is expected to announce that it is cancelling a planned investment at its plant in Sunderland.
    In 2016 the car maker said it would build the X-Trail SUV in Sunderland after receiving "assurances" from the government over Brexit.
    The company is expected to say investment will be now be pulled, rather than existing work being halted.
    Labour MP for Houghton and Sunderland South, Bridget Phillipson, spoke of her concern at the prospect.



    Irony-my favourite soh

    Unfortunately, this will be the first of many strategic withdrawals of large companies who, having had access to massive govt subsidies and a gateway to Europe, will leave this 'island world power ' very soon.

    I wonder how many of the 61% in Sunderland who voted for leave work-or their extended families do- for Nissan.

    They always say " be careful what you wish for..."


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-47102708

    Lemmings.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 34,842
    edited February 2019
    Liam Fox speaking on Sophie Ridge this morning explained that the Brexiteer claims that we don't need a deal with the EU, but continue to trade with them on WTO rules, and at the same time sing the praises of a free trade deal with the USA, doesn't make any sense.
    Almost half our trade is done on our doorstep, with Europe. A further 12% is accounted for by trade through EU trade deals.
    Around 12% is currently done with the USA.

    So how could it make sense to walk away from a trade deal with the EU, and trade with them on WTO, and do the opposite with the USA.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLXqdWllQOU
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 34,842
    madprof said:

    I occasionally wondered what Goldon looks like
    HAYSIE said:

    Nissan 'U-turn' expected on new X-Trail SUV in Sunderland

    Nissan is expected to announce that it is cancelling a planned investment at its plant in Sunderland.
    In 2016 the car maker said it would build the X-Trail SUV in Sunderland after receiving "assurances" from the government over Brexit.
    The company is expected to say investment will be now be pulled, rather than existing work being halted.
    Labour MP for Houghton and Sunderland South, Bridget Phillipson, spoke of her concern at the prospect.



    Irony-my favourite soh

    Unfortunately, this will be the first of many strategic withdrawals of large companies who, having had access to massive govt subsidies and a gateway to Europe, will leave this 'island world power ' very soon.

    I wonder how many of the 61% in Sunderland who voted for leave work-or their extended families do- for Nissan.

    They always say " be careful what you wish for..."


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-47102708

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpTaSShWn74
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 34,842


    Unfortunately, this will be the first of many strategic withdrawals of large companies who, having had access to massive govt subsidies and a gateway to Europe, will leave this 'island world power ' very soon.

    I wonder how many of the 61% in Sunderland who voted for leave work-or their extended families do- for Nissan.

    They always say " be careful what you wish for..."


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-47102708





    Is this the Japan that has just done a trade deal with the EU?



    Nissan new X-Trail to be made in Japan instead of Sunderland


    Nissan has confirmed that the new X-Trail originally planned for its Sunderland plant will instead be made in Japan.
    In a letter to workers, it says continued Brexit uncertainty is not helping firms to "plan for the future".
    In 2016 the carmaker said it would build the new car in the UK after "assurances" from the government.
    Unions described the news as "disappointing" and said they were "seriously concerned".
    The government said it was "a blow to the sector" but that no jobs would go as a result.
    Nissan has made cars at Sunderland since 1986 and employs almost 7,000 people




    Nissan said it had decided to "optimise its investments in Europe" by consolidating X-Trail production in Kyushu, which was the production hub for the model.
    The firm's Europe chairman, Gianluca de Ficchy, said: "Nissan is investing heavily in new technologies and powertrains for the next generation of vehicles in our Sunderland plant.
    "To support this, we are taking advantage of our global assets, and with X-Trail already manufactured in Japan, we can reduce our upfront investment costs."
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    Mr de Ficchy said the news would be "disappointing" to its UK team and partners, but that the workforce in Sunderland had the company's "full confidence".
    "While we have taken this decision for business reasons, the continued uncertainty around the UK's future relationship with the EU is not helping companies like ours to plan for the future," he added.
    A number of carmakers, including Jaguar Land Rover, Toyota and Vauxhall, have expressed fears of disruption to their supply chains in the event of a no-deal Brexit.



    Business Secretary Greg Clark said: "Nissan's announcement is a blow to the sector and the region, as this was to be a further significant expansion of the site and the workforce.
    "The company has confirmed that no jobs will be lost. They have reiterated today their commitment to the UK by continuing to manufacture in Sunderland the current Qashqai, Leaf and Juke models and the new Qashqai model from 2020."
    Unite's acting national officer for the car sector, Steve Bush, said: "This is very disappointing news for Sunderland and the North East and reflects the serious challenges facing the entire UK auto sector."




    He added that the union remained "seriously concerned" that "the apprenticeships and additional jobs that come with future investment and which this community so desperately needs will be lost".
    Sunderland Central MP Julie Elliott said the move was "devastating news for our city and the region".
    She added: "The uncertainty around Brexit is always a factor now in any decision that's made in manufacturing."
    Production of the Qashqai - the best-selling crossover vehicle in Europe - makes up the majority of the current work at Sunderland.
    There had been concerns that Nissan - part-owned by France's Renault - could move production to France in future to avoid any post-Brexit EU tariffs.
    But when the X-Trail investment was initially announced, Nissan said hundreds of jobs would be created at the Sunderland plant.
    It sparked questions over whether a deal between the carmaker and the government had been struck, although ministers insisted that no "financial compensation" had been offered.






    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47107561
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 34,842
    edited February 2019
    The countries that are clever enough to do deals with the EU, like Japan, and Singapore seem to be more fortunate with their future car production plans than us.







  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 34,842
    Brexit referendum result: Austerity and welfare cuts main driver behind leave vote, finds report





    Welfare cuts and other austerity measures implemented under the Conservative government pushed vital swing voters to back Brexit and won the EU referendum for the Leave campaign, according to a new report.
    Research published by the Social Market Foundation suggests the best indicator of a person’s referendum vote was not age or education, but happiness or sadness about their personal finances – with unhappy people tending to vote Leave and contented ones preferring Remain.
    The report, which analysed the level of cuts in each area of the UK alongside each area’s growth in support for Ukip, argues that had it not been for austerity, the referendum would not have turned out the way it did.
    In districts that received the average austerity shock, Ukip vote shares were on average 11.62 percentage points higher in the most recent local elections prior to the referendum than in districts with little exposure to austerity, the findings show.
    As well as area-level analysis, the report looked at individual-level data and found that some people directly affected by welfare cuts shifted their political support to Ukip and reject the political establishment.



    “Households exposed to the bedroom tax increasingly shifted to support Ukip and experienced economic grievances as they fell behind with their rent payments due to the cuts,” the paper says.
    As much as 9 percentage points of the 52 per cent support for Leave – around 3 million votes – was decided by concern about austerity and related issues, the researchers estimate.
    It suggests that without the effect of the “austerity shock” on welfare and public services, the Leave share of the referendum vote could have been as low as 43 per cent, delivering a comfortable win for Remain.
    Dr Thiemo Fetzer, report author and associate professor of Economics at the University of Warwick, said: “The swing voters who decided the referendum result were not diehard Eurosceptics. They were concerned about public goods and public services and feeling the impact of austerity policies.
    “If it hadn’t been for austerity, more of those marginal voters would have voted the other way and the referendum wouldn’t have turned out the way it did.”
    Dr Fetzer added that the way politicians were handling the Brexit process showed they were "still ignoring" the concerns of the swing voters who decided the outcome of the referendum.



    The swing voters who backed Leave don’t want a no-deal Brexit but don’t want no Brexit either. They probably want some sort of deal that means Britain leaves the UK without more disruption to public services and resources,” he said.
    “But right now, the political system is set up to focus on the extremes on either side, not on the marginal voters in the middle who actually made the difference between leave and remain.
    “Marginal voters and the reasons they voted Leave are being dangerously ignored.”
    The report also challenged the idea that age was the dominant factor in referendum voting behaviour, with analysis of data by its researchers showing that only the 18-24s showed a strong majority for Remain.
    “Brexit was not delivered only by old people; leaving was the majority choice for most age groups and only the very young were substantially pro-Remain,” the report states.
    The government has been aproached for comment.





    https://uk.news.yahoo.com/brexit-referendum-result-austerity-welfare-120143251.html
  • madprofmadprof Member Posts: 3,391
    HAYSIE said:

    The countries that are clever enough to do deals with the EU, like Japan, and Singapore seem to be more fortunate with their future car production plans than us.







    My good lady has already said, even though we consider Dyson products to be market leaders, she will never buy one again!( pity as the car looks nice...)
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 34,842
    madprof said:

    HAYSIE said:

    The countries that are clever enough to do deals with the EU, like Japan, and Singapore seem to be more fortunate with their future car production plans than us.







    My good lady has already said, even though we consider Dyson products to be market leaders, she will never buy one again!( pity as the car looks nice...)
    It looks superb.
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,501
    HAYSIE said:

    madprof said:

    HAYSIE said:

    The countries that are clever enough to do deals with the EU, like Japan, and Singapore seem to be more fortunate with their future car production plans than us.







    My good lady has already said, even though we consider Dyson products to be market leaders, she will never buy one again!( pity as the car looks nice...)
    It looks superb.
    Yes-it should clean up :)
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