It's comfort to be here on my own with the Majority.
Thing is, the people who oppose your views have supplied credible evidence to support their rationale., so far you have not supplied any evidence that Brexit will be a good thing and Britain will be better out than in. People have asked for evidence to support your claim, so far you haven’t done so. It seems you don’t care about the future of our Country, if you did it would be easy to provide clear, concise reasons for your stance. What’s wrong with backing up your claim that out is better than in?
Oh dear... Here’s a few positives about the EU ( copied from a well known newspaper, pretty sure they are factual)
Peace The origins of peace in Europe lie in the alliance made between France and Germany t gave birth to the European Coal and Steel Community, a forerunner of the EU. The ECSC was first conceived by Robert Schuman, the French foreign minister in 1950 "to make war not only unthinkable but materially impossible". The continent has indeed enjoyed lasting peace. International security remains one of the EU's top priorities, not just in Europe but the rest of the world.
Single market The single market is probably the EU's single biggest achievement after peace, though it's arguably hard to separate the two. It guarantees the free movement of people, goods, services and capital. Apart from the unifying effect of this set-up on European citizens, it has provided the opportunity for them to travel, live, work, study and do business across the union, and to enjoy a wide range of competitively-priced services and goods.
Easier, passport-free travel Since the 15 member countries which signed up to the Schengen agreement abandoned their border posts, it is possible to travel freely and easily not just to Tuscany and Dordogne, but across huge swaths of the union. Driving licenses are valid across the continent, while the single currency standardised trains and the fact that holidaymakers are fully covered for emergency hospital treatment in other EU countries have all encouraged freedom of movement.
Cheaper and safer flights Increased competition between airlines operating within the member states introduced in the 1980s and 90s has provided us with cheaper flights to a much wider range of destinations than ever before. Flights are also safer as a result of tightened regulations and improvements in air traffic control.
Democracy and human rights Brussels sets standards of human rights, democracy and the rule of law to which countries must adhere if they want to be part of the European Union. In practical terms these guidelines have had a particular impact on the countries of southern, central and eastern Europe, which joined after they emerged from dictatorships with often underdeveloped civil societies.
Cheaper telephone calls In the 1990s the EU liberalised the telecommunications markets. That together with new technology has led to considerably lower prices. The cost of international telephone calls has fallen by more than 80% in the last 30 years, while mobile phone roaming charges have also been significantly reduced.
Improved air and water quality Member states have demonstrated their own appetite for protecting the environment, but they would arguably not have done so much had pressure not been applied by the EU via legislation to improve the quality of rivers, seas and beaches, and reduce acid rain and sulphur emissions.
Any EU sceptics out there want to point out the negatives of the above?
When people talk about “ Getting our identity/Country back”, are they suggesting we as a nation were held back by the EU on workers rights, cheaper phone calls, travel etc etc?
The EU have zero say on the Austerity measures this government has employed over the past decade, do people seriously believe our government/s would do much better for us if we don’t “ Have our hands tied “ in certain citizens/workers rights, and so on?
I haven’t even mentioned the fact that companies are vociferous about the impact of Brexit., the Irish Border, the list is endless.
I look forward to sane replies.
It really is insane to not want to be part of it. No good will come from leaving, and it is completely unfair on the younger generation.
The Governor of the Bank of England, Mark Carney has blamed Brexit for sluggish UK wage growth, saying it may have hampered the country’s economic output. The central banker, whose tenure has recently been extended to 2020, told an audience in Dublin that “Brexit has had an additional dampening effect” on pay growth. This was because it had caused uncertainty, and put businesses off investing in technology that could improve productivity, which is measured by a worker’s output per hour and is a crucial determinant of wage rises.
No-deal Brexit may force interest rate rise, says Bank of England governor Mark Carney
Mark Carney, the governor of the Bank of England, has suggested that interest rates may need to rise, rather than fall, in the event of a no-deal Brexit.
Time waits for no one, but time will tell. We're all in the same boat, you're negativity will sink it ..... man the oars "me hearties" pull with the Majority to the promised land. Did you get the subliminal message regard double standards. Mm! "That would be a no."
Why so interested in the Political view's of this poster who, Quote; talks gibberish, nonsense, Rubbish, plus ..... been called "Idiot." cough!
Like John Barnes when he scored that goal against Brazil in 1984, he was reportedly going to be the greatest player ever.
The doom and gloom predictions are just speculation.
The experts know enough to think your they are right but not enough to know when they are wrong.
(Plagiarized ~Neil deGrasse Tyson)
Unfortunately it is not just speculation. Leaving the EU will result in less trade, less, jobs, and less prosperity. That is surely just logic. There has been a complete lack of anything positive about the decision to leave on this thread.
Time waits for no one, but time will tell. We're all in the same boat, you're negativity will sink it ..... man the oars "me hearties" pull with the Majority to the promised land. Did you get the subliminal message regard double standards. Mm! "That would be a no."
Why so interested in the Political view's of this poster who, Quote; talks gibberish, nonsense, Rubbish, plus ..... been called "Idiot." cough!
The idiot bit is a well known fact, and a pity really.
Time waits for no one, but time will tell. We're all in the same boat, you're negativity will sink it ..... man the oars "me hearties" pull with the Majority to the promised land. Did you get the subliminal message regard double standards. Mm! "That would be a no."
Why so interested in the Political view's of this poster who, Quote; talks gibberish, nonsense, Rubbish, plus ..... been called "Idiot." cough!
The idiot bit is a well known fact, and a pity really.
Anyone that thinks that you could vote in non elected members, would hardly be renowned for their intelligence, would they?
Like John Barnes when he scored that goal against Brazil in 1984, he was reportedly going to be the greatest player ever.
The doom and gloom predictions are just speculation.
The experts know enough to think your they are right but not enough to know when they are wrong.
(Plagiarized ~Neil deGrasse Tyson)
A couple of facts. The EU currently has trade deals with 63 countries. We lose access to these deals when we are no longer members.
So just to stand still we would not only have to do the same trade with the EU 27 after leaving, we would have to immediately complete a further 63 trade deals. The EU took 7 years to negotiate the deal with Canada.
The Chequers proposal only includes goods, and not services which make up 80% of our economy.
It is therefore not possible for us to immediately complete the free trade deals or do the same trade with the EU 27.
Less trade will mean less jobs, no speculation needed.
As the days have gone by it has become increasingly obvious that the lying and cheating behaviour of the Leave campaigners influenced the outcome of the Referendum.
Is it too much to ask for "honesty and decency" in politics these days?
What has happened to us all working together to make the world a better place?
Surely it is not too difficult for "Pros and Cons" to be considered without prejudice to achieve thee best solution to Brexit or indeed any other problem encountered by the country.
Too much politics and self interest around probably?
As the days have gone by it has become increasingly obvious that the lying and cheating behaviour of the Leave campaigners influenced the outcome of the Referendum.
Is it too much to ask for "honesty and decency" in politics these days?
What has happened to us all working together to make the world a better place?
Surely it is not too difficult for "Pros and Cons" to be considered without prejudice to achieve thee best solution to Brexit or indeed any other problem encountered by the country.
Too much politics and self interest around probably?
Leaving the EU has no tangible advantages for our country.
It is really difficult to understand how anyone could vote leave, without knowing what leaving actually meant. We still don't know what leaving means, other than our prospects are much worse than if we remained.
The Brexiteers are getting on my nerves, their support in many cases in based on ideology rather than what is best for the country, and the people that elected them.
They keep coming up with the most stupid of arguments. Lets take the argument against the Peoples Vote, or another referendum.
I think it is impossible to not argue that at the time of the referendum in 2016, the electorate were not aware of what leaving would really mean. Therefore, when the deal is finally done, then to vote on accepting the deal or staying in is sensible. If none of the leavers have changed their minds, we will still leave, that is democracy. At least everyone will be fully aware of the consequences of their vote.
Yet the Brexiteers say that to have a second referendum undermines democracy. What they don't say is that this was already the second referendum. We had the first one in 1975, when we voted 2 to 1 in favour of staying in. So based on their own argument we shouldn't have had the one in 2016, because we were undermining the democracy of the 1975 referendum.
You can't see the Wood for the Tree's but the Majority did.
I have reached a decision. I have decided that in the best interests of the people that wish to use this forum to debate their ideas, that I intend to ignore your silly posts. It appears that trying to solicit some reasonable thought from you, by replying to your gibberish and nonsense, has only encouraged you to produce more idiotic posts.
You, of course have the right to continue to post this absolute garbage, but secure in the knowledge that I for one will not be reading, or replying to it.
ps. if they are supposed to be funny, take it from me, the overwhelming majority aren't.
Quite a few ( Not all) leave voters voted to curb immigration. Listening to a ‘Gent’ on the radio the other day made me wonder what type of education some have. He voted leave to stop the Pakistanis and Muslims from coming.....
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People have asked for evidence to support your claim, so far you haven’t done so.
It seems you don’t care about the future of our Country, if you did it would be easy to provide clear, concise reasons for your stance.
What’s wrong with backing up your claim that out is better than in?
Brexit has hit pay growth, Carney tells Ireland
The Governor of the Bank of England, Mark Carney has blamed Brexit for sluggish UK wage growth, saying it may have hampered the country’s economic output.
The central banker, whose tenure has recently been extended to 2020, told an audience in Dublin that “Brexit has had an additional dampening effect” on pay growth. This was because it had caused uncertainty, and put businesses off investing in technology that could improve productivity, which is measured by a worker’s output per hour and is a crucial determinant of wage rises.
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/brexit-hit-pay-growth-carney-142807360.html
No-deal Brexit may force interest rate rise, says Bank of England governor Mark Carney
Mark Carney, the governor of the Bank of England, has suggested that interest rates may need to rise, rather than fall, in the event of a no-deal Brexit.
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/no-deal-brexit-may-force-112300625.html
Like John Barnes when he scored that goal against Brazil in 1984, he was reportedly going to be the greatest player ever.
The doom and gloom predictions are just speculation.
The experts know enough to think your they are right but not enough to know when they are wrong.
(Plagiarized ~Neil deGrasse Tyson)
Why so interested in the Political view's of this poster who, Quote; talks gibberish, nonsense, Rubbish, plus ..... been called "Idiot." cough!
There has been a complete lack of anything positive about the decision to leave on this thread.
The EU currently has trade deals with 63 countries. We lose access to these deals when we are no longer members.
So just to stand still we would not only have to do the same trade with the EU 27 after leaving, we would have to immediately complete a further 63 trade deals. The EU took 7 years to negotiate the deal with Canada.
The Chequers proposal only includes goods, and not services which make up 80% of our economy.
It is therefore not possible for us to immediately complete the free trade deals or do the same trade with the EU 27.
Less trade will mean less jobs, no speculation needed.
Is it too much to ask for "honesty and decency" in politics these days?
What has happened to us all working together to make the world a better place?
Surely it is not too difficult for "Pros and Cons" to be considered without prejudice to achieve thee best solution to Brexit or indeed any other problem encountered by the country.
Too much politics and self interest around probably?
It is really difficult to understand how anyone could vote leave, without knowing what leaving actually meant. We still don't know what leaving means, other than our prospects are much worse than if we remained.
The Brexiteers are getting on my nerves, their support in many cases in based on ideology rather than what is best for the country, and the people that elected them.
They keep coming up with the most stupid of arguments. Lets take the argument against the Peoples Vote, or another referendum.
I think it is impossible to not argue that at the time of the referendum in 2016, the electorate were not aware of what leaving would really mean. Therefore, when the deal is finally done, then to vote on accepting the deal or staying in is sensible. If none of the leavers have changed their minds, we will still leave, that is democracy. At least everyone will be fully aware of the consequences of their vote.
Yet the Brexiteers say that to have a second referendum undermines democracy. What they don't say is that this was already the second referendum. We had the first one in 1975, when we voted 2 to 1 in favour of staying in. So based on their own argument we shouldn't have had the one in 2016, because we were undermining the democracy of the 1975 referendum.
I have decided that in the best interests of the people that wish to use this forum to debate their ideas, that I intend to ignore your silly posts.
It appears that trying to solicit some reasonable thought from you, by replying to your gibberish and nonsense, has only encouraged you to produce more idiotic posts.
You, of course have the right to continue to post this absolute garbage, but secure in the knowledge that I for one will not be reading, or replying to it.
ps. if they are supposed to be funny, take it from me, the overwhelming majority aren't.
Listening to a ‘Gent’ on the radio the other day made me wonder what type of education some have.
He voted leave to stop the Pakistanis and Muslims from coming.....