Breaking news : The genius and self proclaimed Brexit expert, Haysie , believes that everyone had a responsibility to vote in the referendum , even if you weren't sure exactly what you were voting for . Radical or stupid ? I think most of us know the answer to that .
I would say it is the politicians responsibility to present the true and accurate facts and all possible scenarios to the voting public .
I think you are just trying to justify your own position. I think your view of politicians is very immature, and unrealistic. When do they ever do what you are suggesting?
Umm well obviously , just as you are with your views, however that doesn't make the point any less valid . Immature and unrealistic ? Unrealistic to expect politicians not to lie ,probably , but that says more about the state of politics in this country than it does about peoples expectations.Immature to expect people in a prominent position to tell the truth , really ?
Do you think they do then?
" when do they ever do as I'm suggesting ? " .. Obviously not enough , hence the general disenchantment with them and the generally poor turnout in elections and voting . Are you not capable of understanding that a percentage of non voters , will use that as a protest ? And before you ask another dumb question , I dont fit into that category , for reasons I've given you a million times .
The points you made to justify you actions weren't reasonable in my view, but I cant be bothered with this any more.
You stick with your justification.
Excellent news, good work Dobie.
Is this a gang rule? Highlight a bit, then post a sentence?
Breaking news : The genius and self proclaimed Brexit expert, Haysie , believes that everyone had a responsibility to vote in the referendum , even if you weren't sure exactly what you were voting for . Radical or stupid ? I think most of us know the answer to that .
I would say it is the politicians responsibility to present the true and accurate facts and all possible scenarios to the voting public .
I think you are just trying to justify your own position. I think your view of politicians is very immature, and unrealistic. When do they ever do what you are suggesting?
Umm well obviously , just as you are with your views, however that doesn't make the point any less valid . Immature and unrealistic ? Unrealistic to expect politicians not to lie ,probably , but that says more about the state of politics in this country than it does about peoples expectations.Immature to expect people in a prominent position to tell the truth , really ?
Do you think they do then?
" when do they ever do as I'm suggesting ? " .. Obviously not enough , hence the general disenchantment with them and the generally poor turnout in elections and voting . Are you not capable of understanding that a percentage of non voters , will use that as a protest ? And before you ask another dumb question , I dont fit into that category , for reasons I've given you a million times .
The points you made to justify you actions weren't reasonable in my view, but I cant be bothered with this any more.
You stick with your justification.
Your view is about as important to me ,as who's going to win a tv reality show
At least I have got a view.
Just because one doesn't express a view doesn't mean they haven't got one !
Prove you have then.
Actually think you have lost the plot . Your posts and comments are getting more childish by the minute . No need for me to prove anything to anyone .
I have just dropped to your level.
I think people will make up their own mind who is posting childish comments . Thought this ego trip of a thread of yours was meant to be about Brexit ?
Not since you and your gang got involved.
Understandable, you wouldn't want any conflicting opinions on this thread Note , no denial the main purpose was to stroke your fragile ego .
You and your gang don't have any opinions, conflicting or otherwise.
I am off to make a cuppa, and play a bit of poker, give your gang a chance to catch up? I might also nip out and find a dog that has passed the Brexit exam.
A quote from this article : " I should clarify that I was always more than happy to accept the many major flaws of EU membership and of the EU itself. However, in June 2016 for me the alternative was confusion and uncertainty. It was a case of ‘better the devil you know’. I was always very clear that we as a country are big enough and ugly enough to look after ourselves, but I just felt that the Leave campaign (and the Remain one too!) failed to articulate clear arguments in a way that would inspire me. There was no story about where we would go from here, and on both sides it seemed like lots of soundbites, shouting and slogans, with much less reasoned argument."
Do you sell spam on your site ? I used to enjoy spam sandwiches, but I find it too expensive these days.
I didn’t think these links were allowed here, may be wrong, best to ask the people who are busy in Manchester at present.
Typical lefty, Dobie, is giving you a masterclass, so you resort to i am telling sir.
Define “Leftie” and how you put me in that category
By “Telling sir” I’m guessing ( In your small minded world) you mean report it ? I haven’t , I will refrain from calling you a liar , as the bending of the truth is your modus operandi which everyone is accustomed to.
Same as Phil tried, and was shot down I was merely trying to help, and it has been twisted around which is sad.
You weren't trying to be helpful , just snidey as usual and got called out accurately for it .
You’re wrong
If someone tries to help you accross the road, they aren’t trying to nick your purse .
If they point to the other side of the road, they aren’t a member of Isis .
Get help.
People are more than capable of seeing straight through your stuff , however you might want to try and dress up the words , Rainman called it right . I suggest if you have anything to say about Isis you should contribute to the TR thread instead of slyly trying to introduce it on here . I don't need any help , I don't have any problems controlling my emotions on a forum .
Are you suggesting Rainman should stick to the TR thread with his views on the above?
If the car developed a fault with the brakes and steering , do you still blame the driver , or the manufacturer?
Do you sell spam on your site ? I used to enjoy spam sandwiches, but I find it too expensive these days.
I didn’t think these links were allowed here, may be wrong, best to ask the people who are busy in Manchester at present.
Typical lefty, Dobie, is giving you a masterclass, so you resort to i am telling sir.
Define “Leftie” and how you put me in that category
By “Telling sir” I’m guessing ( In your small minded world) you mean report it ? I haven’t , I will refrain from calling you a liar , as the bending of the truth is your modus operandi which everyone is accustomed to.
Same as Phil tried, and was shot down I was merely trying to help, and it has been twisted around which is sad.
You weren't trying to be helpful , just snidey as usual and got called out accurately for it .
You’re wrong
If someone tries to help you accross the road, they aren’t trying to nick your purse .
If they point to the other side of the road, they aren’t a member of Isis .
Get help.
People are more than capable of seeing straight through your stuff , however you might want to try and dress up the words , Rainman called it right . I suggest if you have anything to say about Isis you should contribute to the TR thread instead of slyly trying to introduce it on here . I don't need any help , I don't have any problems controlling my emotions on a forum .
Are you suggesting Rainman should stick to the TR thread with his views on the above?
If the car developed a fault with the brakes and steering , do you still blame the driver , or the manufacturer?
So you agree with haysie, that the Parents of Child rape victims are partly to blame. Personally i blame the rapists 100% , good to know that is your opinion.
Do you sell spam on your site ? I used to enjoy spam sandwiches, but I find it too expensive these days.
I didn’t think these links were allowed here, may be wrong, best to ask the people who are busy in Manchester at present.
Typical lefty, Dobie, is giving you a masterclass, so you resort to i am telling sir.
Define “Leftie” and how you put me in that category
By “Telling sir” I’m guessing ( In your small minded world) you mean report it ? I haven’t , I will refrain from calling you a liar , as the bending of the truth is your modus operandi which everyone is accustomed to.
Same as Phil tried, and was shot down I was merely trying to help, and it has been twisted around which is sad.
You weren't trying to be helpful , just snidey as usual and got called out accurately for it .
You’re wrong
If someone tries to help you accross the road, they aren’t trying to nick your purse .
If they point to the other side of the road, they aren’t a member of Isis .
Get help.
People are more than capable of seeing straight through your stuff , however you might want to try and dress up the words , Rainman called it right . I suggest if you have anything to say about Isis you should contribute to the TR thread instead of slyly trying to introduce it on here . I don't need any help , I don't have any problems controlling my emotions on a forum .
Are you suggesting Rainman should stick to the TR thread with his views on the above?
If the car developed a fault with the brakes and steering , do you still blame the driver , or the manufacturer?
So you agree with haysie, that the Parents of Child rape victims are partly to blame. Personally i blame the rapists 100% , good to know that is your opinion.
Do you sell spam on your site ? I used to enjoy spam sandwiches, but I find it too expensive these days.
I didn’t think these links were allowed here, may be wrong, best to ask the people who are busy in Manchester at present.
Typical lefty, Dobie, is giving you a masterclass, so you resort to i am telling sir.
Define “Leftie” and how you put me in that category
By “Telling sir” I’m guessing ( In your small minded world) you mean report it ? I haven’t , I will refrain from calling you a liar , as the bending of the truth is your modus operandi which everyone is accustomed to.
Same as Phil tried, and was shot down I was merely trying to help, and it has been twisted around which is sad.
You weren't trying to be helpful , just snidey as usual and got called out accurately for it .
You’re wrong
If someone tries to help you accross the road, they aren’t trying to nick your purse .
If they point to the other side of the road, they aren’t a member of Isis .
Get help.
People are more than capable of seeing straight through your stuff , however you might want to try and dress up the words , Rainman called it right . I suggest if you have anything to say about Isis you should contribute to the TR thread instead of slyly trying to introduce it on here . I don't need any help , I don't have any problems controlling my emotions on a forum .
Are you suggesting Rainman should stick to the TR thread with his views on the above?
If the car developed a fault with the brakes and steering , do you still blame the driver , or the manufacturer?
Reading isn't your strong point is it ? , or were you just trying to HELP as usual
Do you sell spam on your site ? I used to enjoy spam sandwiches, but I find it too expensive these days.
I didn’t think these links were allowed here, may be wrong, best to ask the people who are busy in Manchester at present.
Typical lefty, Dobie, is giving you a masterclass, so you resort to i am telling sir.
Define “Leftie” and how you put me in that category
By “Telling sir” I’m guessing ( In your small minded world) you mean report it ? I haven’t , I will refrain from calling you a liar , as the bending of the truth is your modus operandi which everyone is accustomed to.
Same as Phil tried, and was shot down I was merely trying to help, and it has been twisted around which is sad.
You weren't trying to be helpful , just snidey as usual and got called out accurately for it .
You’re wrong
If someone tries to help you accross the road, they aren’t trying to nick your purse .
If they point to the other side of the road, they aren’t a member of Isis .
Get help.
People are more than capable of seeing straight through your stuff , however you might want to try and dress up the words , Rainman called it right . I suggest if you have anything to say about Isis you should contribute to the TR thread instead of slyly trying to introduce it on here . I don't need any help , I don't have any problems controlling my emotions on a forum .
Are you suggesting Rainman should stick to the TR thread with his views on the above?
If the car developed a fault with the brakes and steering , do you still blame the driver , or the manufacturer?
Who do I blame ..ummm the driver obv. Strangely enough you aren't likely to think or know about any potential manufacturers faults as you hit the deck . It's ultimately the responsibility of the driver to ensure his car is roadworthy ...if the driver ran me over , he would be the person to sue not the manufacturer, and then I guess he could sue the manufacturer in return .. I'm sure Mr essexphil aka Ironside will be along to correct me shortly , but without exactly saying why i'm wrong
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I might also nip out and find a dog that has passed the Brexit exam.
https://brexitcentral.com/journey-reluctant-remainer-confident-brexiteer/
http://www.thenationalstudent.com/Opinion/2016-06-30/Referendum_reveals_snobbery_of_remainers.html
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-46398057
If the car developed a fault with the brakes and steering , do you still blame the driver , or the manufacturer?
Personally i blame the rapists 100% , good to know that is your opinion.
It's ultimately the responsibility of the driver to ensure his car is roadworthy ...if the driver ran me over , he would be the person to sue not the manufacturer, and then I guess he could sue the manufacturer in return .. I'm sure Mr essexphil aka Ironside will be along to correct me shortly , but without exactly saying why i'm wrong