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Diary of a determined player

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  • peter27peter27 Member Posts: 1,634
    I can certainly see the argument for re-raising the flop, the reason I didn't is because I didn't want to kill my action. What hands are beating me on the flop? Only KK. The flush and straight draws are out there, but unlikely to hit. But, with that strategy, I really should have then bet the turn .. :( Nevertheless, my initial point still stands, the fact I was able to fold trips, is a sign of progress.

    I'm getting extremely frustrated at the moment, results are really poor right now.

    Any thoughts on this hand from the £8,000 BH Semi earlier? I believe pre-flop was fine, but very unsure about the flop and turn. The player was playing fairly loose on previous hands.
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    JessieakSmall blind10.0010.001920.00
    dazed1Big blind20.0030.002182.50
    Your hole cards
    • A
    • Q
    scotty77Fold
    WoebegoneFold
    peter27Raise60.0090.001707.50
    JessieakFold
    dazed1Call40.00130.002142.50
    Flop
    • 2
    • 5
    • 5
    dazed1Check
    peter27Bet85.00215.001622.50
    dazed1Raise235.00450.001907.50
    peter27Call150.00600.001472.50
    Turn
    • 8
    dazed1Bet320.00920.001587.50
    peter27Fold
    dazed1Muck
    dazed1Win600.002187.50
    dazed1Return320.000.002507.50
  • peter27peter27 Member Posts: 1,634
    Where was my mistake here? I'm starting to get extremely demotivated. :s
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    peter27Small blind15.0015.003120.00
    faldo6929Big blind30.0045.005285.00
    Your hole cards
    • J
    • J
    DozzaRaise90.00135.003170.00
    FroozleCall90.00225.002705.00
    LittleGJFold
    HENDRIK62Call90.00315.003275.00
    peter27Raise255.00570.002865.00
    faldo6929Fold
    DozzaCall180.00750.002990.00
    FroozleCall180.00930.002525.00
    HENDRIK62Call180.001110.003095.00
    Flop
    • 8
    • 3
    • 9
    peter27Bet550.001660.002315.00
    DozzaFold
    FroozleFold
    HENDRIK62Call550.002210.002545.00
    Turn
    • 7
    peter27Bet900.003110.001415.00
    HENDRIK62All-in2545.005655.000.00
    peter27Fold
    HENDRIK62Muck
    HENDRIK62Win4010.004010.00
    HENDRIK62Return1645.000.005655.00
  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    AQ hand....its a sat, and even though its early chip preservation is still important. Might be an argument for checking back that flop. Not a fan of calling his raise, we don't even have any backdoor equity. Yes we might have the best hand but we're in no mans land by the turn.

    JJ....raise pre is way way too small and I think this has made the hand more difficult for you. You really want to be bloating the pot whilst thinning the field and this sizing achieves neither.
    Not much beats us and as played it's unlikely someone has QQ+ , but getting flatted on an 839r flop when we block the obvious straight draw should set some alarm bells off. I think checking turn might be best, we don't really need to protect against anything but I would be concerned that we are behind if villain starts pumping the chips in (villain is a massive scotch fish as well)


  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,771
    Your mistake on the last hand was folding.
    You have an overpair and a gutshot, and you are getting 9/2 on calling. You may well not be favourite, but I am calling with those odds...
  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    Essexphil said:

    Your mistake on the last hand was folding.
    You have an overpair and a gutshot, and you are getting 9/2 on calling. You may well not be favourite, but I am calling with those odds...

    Yeah I think as played and after betting again you probs have to call if off, though we know we're always behind.

    Just hope the useless villain has 89 and we counterfeit the scotch fish with a lovely 3ball on the river.
  • HENDRIK62HENDRIK62 Member Posts: 3,202
    Hi Peter,
    The two gentlemen (loose) have pretty much nailed it, given that I am a massive station a larger raise pre was definitely required.......on the turn after you bet I fully expect you to come along which is why I put you in, I was a little surprised you folded.
  • Angmar2626Angmar2626 Member Posts: 886
    I can certainly see the argument for re-raising the flop, the reason I didn't is because I didn't want to kill my action. What hands are beating me on the flop? Only KK. The flush and straight draws are out there, but unlikely to hit.

    ^^^^
    It doesn't work like that sadly...

    If one of these fine fellows has a flush draw and the other a straight draw, then your equity is 57.9% - still a favourite of course, but 42.1% of the time you get outdrawn if we see a turn and river, which is why we want to protect our equity and not give out free cards willy nilly :) Also, as discussed before, we want to build the pot and get paid by Kx etc.
  • peter27peter27 Member Posts: 1,634
    Interesting feedback, thanks all, I genuinely feel like this is making me a better player.

    I'm still not sure about that AQ hand though. I'm struggling to understand why I would not c-bet the flop. He was in the BB, and called my raise, therefore it's unlikely he has a 2 or a 5 in his hand. I would be surprised if I'm not ahead at that point (without being results orientated), plus I'm in position too. However, looking back on it, with that strategy, my flop bet should have been bigger. Completely agree that calling his re-raise was a mistake however.

    As you can probably tell from my response time, I took a few days away from poker. But, I've been back this weekend, and doing alright so far - without ever being spectacular.

    I'm still progressing with the masterclass I talked about before, and one mathematical concept has me a little confused. I'll post my question in a separate thread though as I'm conscious a post of that nature may appeal to some other people who don't check this thread.
  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    edited November 2018
    peter27 said:

    Interesting feedback, thanks all, I genuinely feel like this is making me a better player.

    I'm still not sure about that AQ hand though. I'm struggling to understand why I would not c-bet the flop. He was in the BB, and called my raise, therefore it's unlikely he has a 2 or a 5 in his hand. I would be surprised if I'm not ahead at that point (without being results orientated), plus I'm in position too. However, looking back on it, with that strategy, my flop bet should have been bigger. Completely agree that calling his re-raise was a mistake however.

    As you can probably tell from my response time, I took a few days away from poker. But, I've been back this weekend, and doing alright so far - without ever being spectacular.

    I'm still progressing with the masterclass I talked about before, and one mathematical concept has me a little confused. I'll post my question in a separate thread though as I'm conscious a post of that nature may appeal to some other people who don't check this thread.

    Why should it have been bigger?
    What range of hands are you putting him on?
    If you think AQ is ahead on that flop, and it quite possibly is, what worse hands do you think he's going to call with? Bearing in mind its a pretty nothing flop with only 34 as a draw.

  • peter27peter27 Member Posts: 1,634

    peter27 said:

    Interesting feedback, thanks all, I genuinely feel like this is making me a better player.

    I'm still not sure about that AQ hand though. I'm struggling to understand why I would not c-bet the flop. He was in the BB, and called my raise, therefore it's unlikely he has a 2 or a 5 in his hand. I would be surprised if I'm not ahead at that point (without being results orientated), plus I'm in position too. However, looking back on it, with that strategy, my flop bet should have been bigger. Completely agree that calling his re-raise was a mistake however.

    As you can probably tell from my response time, I took a few days away from poker. But, I've been back this weekend, and doing alright so far - without ever being spectacular.

    I'm still progressing with the masterclass I talked about before, and one mathematical concept has me a little confused. I'll post my question in a separate thread though as I'm conscious a post of that nature may appeal to some other people who don't check this thread.

    Why should it have been bigger?
    What range of hands are you putting him on?
    If you think AQ is ahead on that flop, and it quite possibly is, what worse hands do you think he's going to call with? Bearing in mind its a pretty nothing flop with only 34 as a draw.

    The intention of a bigger raise would be to try and take the hand down there and then. If a king, jack or ten come down on the turn, then it's suddenly quite possible he has me beat. But, I do take your point. I am just struggling with what the justification would be for checking back that flop? I understand chip preservation is important, but we're nearly always ahead there .. right? :/
  • peter27peter27 Member Posts: 1,634
    Over the last two weeks I've been grinding the £11 turbo DYM's as part of the "DYM streak week" promotion, which I thoroughly enjoyed.

    I did well in the first week; finished joint 5th on a streak of nine to take a promotional prize of £62.50. During the second week, I could not get a streak higher than five which was rather frustrating.

    However, I was recording all my results, and I'm fairly encouraged that I was able to "beat the rake" during both weeks.



    I believe these to be decent results, would be curious to know how this stacks up against any "full time" DYM players though ..
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 169,598

    Very well done @peter27, you seem to be making very solid progress.
  • peter27peter27 Member Posts: 1,634
    Is this hand just one of those things, or was there mistake? It's from the very early stages of the £2,000 Mini Gold Rush MTT.
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    AKAscottySmall blind20.0020.0010080.00
    sehjal06Big blind40.0060.009860.00
    Your hole cards
    • K
    • K
    peter27Raise120.00180.0010060.00
    chicknMeltFold
    kaman113Fold
    WhizzewkyFold
    AKAscottyFold
    sehjal06Call80.00260.009780.00
    Flop
    • 10
    • J
    • 2
    sehjal06Check
    peter27Bet180.00440.009880.00
    sehjal06Call180.00620.009600.00
    Turn
    • 6
    sehjal06Check
    peter27Bet400.001020.009480.00
    sehjal06Call400.001420.009200.00
    River
    • 7
    sehjal06Check
    peter27Bet1420.002840.008060.00
    sehjal06All-in9200.0012040.000.00
    peter27Call7780.0019820.00280.00
    sehjal06Show
    • 6
    • 7
    peter27Show
    • K
    • K
    sehjal06WinTwo Pairs, 7s and 6s19820.0019820.00
    I did consider folding on the river, but a lot of inexperienced players would just be shoving top pair in a bounty hunter, which is why I made the call. Not saying the opposition is inexperienced, but, I didn't know.
  • MattBatesMattBates Member Posts: 4,118
    Do you think they would wait until the river to shove top pair?
    Do you think they would shove so much with top pair?
  • MattBatesMattBates Member Posts: 4,118
    Good work with the DYMs. I believe with the turbos your ROI doesn't tend to be that great but hourly is good given time it takes to play them and rakeback you can gain given volume you can get in so beating rake seems good effort.
  • peter27peter27 Member Posts: 1,634
    MattBates said:

    Do you think they would wait until the river to shove top pair?
    Do you think they would shove so much with top pair?

    Fair point on the first question, I should have realised this. On the second question, yes, I feel like an inexperienced player could do exactly that in a bounty hunter. I mean, there was a time when I would have done something similar in the past - but those were the days when I was a particularly bad player!!

    Thanks for your kind words about the turbo DYM's :smile:
  • peter27peter27 Member Posts: 1,634
    Just won the UKOPS 01 £2,000 Bounty Hunter event, very happy with that as its a clear indicator I am making progress here :)

    I have to say, the whole way through the tournament, I've never felt that comfortable whilst playing before. Decisions are seemingly starting to come naturally now.

    I'll definitely be playing a few more UKOPS events this week, including the main event which I already qualified for via a satellite.

    Happy days. Do Sky do bracelets for UKOPS events? I certainly seem to remember seeing some in the past.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 169,598
    I watched it from a long way out Peter, well played. Might even get a mention in tomorrow's UKOPS review.

    UKOPS Bracelets? Yes, but only for Main Events and High Rollers. So you'll need to win the Main, ok?
  • peter27peter27 Member Posts: 1,634
    Tikay10 said:

    I watched it from a long way out Peter, well played. Might even get a mention in tomorrow's UKOPS review.

    UKOPS Bracelets? Yes, but only for Main Events and High Rollers. So you'll need to win the Main, ok?

    Thank you very much.

    Alright, I'll win the main event then. You may as well save some time and stick the bracelet in the post now, ok?
  • peter27peter27 Member Posts: 1,634
    Very first hand of a £200 Turbo Bounty Hunter .. :s
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    JJs1927Small blind10.0010.001990.00
    oldcrockBig blind20.0030.001980.00
    Your hole cards
    • 7
    • 7
    peter27Raise60.0090.001940.00
    BigT299Fold
    DonqueFold
    badbitchCall60.00150.001940.00
    JJs1927Fold
    oldcrockCall40.00190.001940.00
    Flop
    • Q
    • A
    • A
    oldcrockCheck
    peter27Bet150.00340.001790.00
    badbitchFold
    oldcrockCall150.00490.001790.00
    Turn
    • 7
    oldcrockCheck
    peter27Bet375.00865.001415.00
    oldcrockCall375.001240.001415.00
    River
    • 5
    oldcrockAll-in1415.002655.000.00
    peter27All-in1415.004070.000.00
    oldcrockShow
    • A
    • 5
    peter27Show
    • 7
    • 7
    oldcrockWinFull House, Aces and 5s4070.004070.00
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