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The lunatics have taken over the asylum

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  • CammykazeCammykaze Member Posts: 1,397
    Tikay10 said:

    Cammykaze said:

    VespaPX said:

    Do we abolish the monarchy given it's colonial past?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_African_Company

    The monarchy model is very antiquated for me however there is big British history there and know a Nordic couple who think the British Royals are ok.

    The words were "all we have here are fat, greedy politicians." Which are worse?

    Cammy
    Most Nordic countries - for sure Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Greenland, Faroes, & until relatively recently Iceland - have a Monarchy.

    Was a Finnish couple :)
  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 9,056
    Penguin Island............ reminder ; I don't do Serious..... cough!


  • EvilPinguEvilPingu Member Posts: 3,462
    edited June 2020
    goldon said:

    Penguin Island............ reminder ; I don't do Serious..... cough!

    You don't do funny very well either.

    If you "Don't do serious", then you need to avoid spamming serious discussions with absolute drivel. There's a time and a place for funny; a discussion related to racism isn't it.
  • rabdenirorabdeniro Member Posts: 4,434
    Fawlty Towers now, that's it I'm off to live in Jura and start a rabbit sanctuary ( well whenever I'm allowed to drive more than 5 miles ), where's this going to stop.
  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 9,056
    We, Toot Toot and me, are the Railway Children living by the line warning of impending danger.
    Never trying ...... cough! to be funny ...... only informative.
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774















    I’ll point out I made a comment about Dianne Abbot, as I didn’t think she would be able to cut the mustard as Home Secretary. I personally think she isn’t a sharp enough tool for that post.
    Then I get a comment “ because she’s black”?

    Then there’s numerous derogatory remarks about Priti Patel that are regarded as acceptable on here.
    Or is there an order of what folks find most insulting, and have preference for? What’s top of the charts?
    Stay Alert. Double standards.



  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,399
    Wonder what the residents in the Socialist Republic of Merseyside think of this:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluecoat_Chambers
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryan_Blundell
  • rabdenirorabdeniro Member Posts: 4,434

    Really.
  • CammykazeCammykaze Member Posts: 1,397
    rabdeniro said:


    Really.

    Not great!
  • TheEdge949TheEdge949 Member Posts: 5,686
    My only concern with racism is the propagated stance that it can only apply to a minority. Sometimes the efforts of those minority groups to make a difference can give a different impression.

    (Allow me to expand.)

    There is an Association of Black Police Officers. Now this by its very nature is racist. All police officers should belong to the National Association of Police Officers surely.

    (Bear with me, its not a rant about black coppers.)

    Who set this other association up ? Black/ Minority officers. Why ? Well presumably they felt that they were not represented by the national association.

    (Probably a fair point if you remember that the Met were found to be institutionally racist.)

    But, here is the rub If the Association of White police Officers was formed there would be and correctly so an absolute meltdown at its overtly racist name.

    (Ok here's the hypocrisy bit)

    Oh and yes for the record white officers cannot apply to join the AoBPO, presumably because they are not black, which I think means they are excluded on the grounds of colour which is in fact racist.

    (I'm assuming it's been declared legal though)

    So do you highlight your cause of fighting racism by setting up something that in itself is a mirror image of the very thing that you are trying to bring down.

    There are thousands of such examples worldwide and whilst I applaud their motives I cant help but think that certain sections of society (right wing, nationalist etc) will view these as inflammatory and hypocritical.

    Do B.L.M. Absolutely, and in 2020 you'd think that all this cr4p was a thing of the past.

    ALL LIVES MATTER whether you are black, white, brown , yellow, red, gay , straight, bi, trans, Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Seikh, Bhuddist, Atheist, Agnostic.

    As a Christian I find it repugnant that many of the attitudes expressed in North America toward people of ethnicity eminate from people purporting to be Christian. On your fkn bike white supremacist a holes. Not in my name and not in Gods or Jesus name either.

    Black lives matter, all lives matter.

    Racism R.I.P 2020 we can but hope and pray.

  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    VespaPX said:

    Before people stick the knife in for all the Daily Mail links he shares, remember this is a really tough time for Vespa at the moment.

    Farage booted from his radio show.
    Tommy Robinson arrested, yet again.
    Statues of slave traders torn down.
    And a global movement championing long overdue equality for black people.

    Thoughts and prayers pal, thoughts and prayers.

    Couldn't be more happy than i am now.
    Just retired at 58, in the process of moving to a new house.
    Life's all good here (pal?)
    Great stuff.

    I hope you've done your due diligence and aren't moving next door to a load of brown people?
  • CammykazeCammykaze Member Posts: 1,397

    VespaPX said:

    Before people stick the knife in for all the Daily Mail links he shares, remember this is a really tough time for Vespa at the moment.

    Farage booted from his radio show.
    Tommy Robinson arrested, yet again.
    Statues of slave traders torn down.
    And a global movement championing long overdue equality for black people.

    Thoughts and prayers pal, thoughts and prayers.

    Couldn't be more happy than i am now.
    Just retired at 58, in the process of moving to a new house.
    Life's all good here (pal?)
    Great stuff.

    I hope you've done your due diligence and aren't moving next door to a load of brown people?
    Nice of you to offer your supportive thoughts to another poster mate.
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,774
    The Monarchy actually provide a very good example in relation to all this.

    Some people on the Right seem to blindly love the institution, and bring it up at every opportunity.

    Some people on the Left will always want to abolish it, similarly regardless of what they do.

    The reality is very different. The Monarchy, like many institutions, has to constantly evolve in order to meet the expectations of a changing world. Because that is what the vast majority expect of them.

    If they did not, the Monarchy would either end or be sidelined. Whereas the main players in my lifetime (the Queen, Charles and William) are adept at evolving in order to survive.

    Much like those Companies that survived who used to do terrible things, in our 21st Century eyes.
  • CammykazeCammykaze Member Posts: 1,397
    edited June 2020



    ALL LIVES MATTER whether you are black, white, brown , yellow, red, gay , straight, bi, trans, Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Seikh, Bhuddist, Atheist, Agnostic.

    We are all human.

    It appears to be a massive news topic in the US at the moment while others outside the US pledge allegiance to BLM. A tool to maybe seek approval from others and have a safe opinion that very few will be able to disagree with.

    It's one of those things. BLM is something that upwards of 90% of people could get behind and be part of a majority.

    Cammy
  • EvilPinguEvilPingu Member Posts: 3,462
    edited June 2020

    My only concern with racism is the propagated stance that it can only apply to a minority. Sometimes the efforts of those minority groups to make a difference can give a different impression.

    (Allow me to expand.)

    There is an Association of Black Police Officers. Now this by its very nature is racist. All police officers should belong to the National Association of Police Officers surely.

    (Bear with me, its not a rant about black coppers.)

    Who set this other association up ? Black/ Minority officers. Why ? Well presumably they felt that they were not represented by the national association.

    (Probably a fair point if you remember that the Met were found to be institutionally racist.)

    But, here is the rub If the Association of White police Officers was formed there would be and correctly so an absolute meltdown at its overtly racist name.

    Because at no point were they 'not represented' (as per your assumption). That's the difference.

    Same argument applies to the vast majority of arguments of the form "Why is there not a white/men's/straight group for [insert thing here]", since we're typically already represented by the larger group with no ethnicity/gender/sexuality designation.
  • CammykazeCammykaze Member Posts: 1,397
    Essexphil said:



    Much like those Companies that survived who used to do terrible things, in our 21st Century eyes.

    :)
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,399

    VespaPX said:

    Before people stick the knife in for all the Daily Mail links he shares, remember this is a really tough time for Vespa at the moment.

    Farage booted from his radio show.
    Tommy Robinson arrested, yet again.
    Statues of slave traders torn down.
    And a global movement championing long overdue equality for black people.

    Thoughts and prayers pal, thoughts and prayers.

    Couldn't be more happy than i am now.
    Just retired at 58, in the process of moving to a new house.
    Life's all good here (pal?)
    Great stuff.

    I hope you've done your due diligence and aren't moving next door to a load of brown people?
    Nice description.............not!
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,399
    edited June 2020
    Essexphil said:

    The Monarchy actually provide a very good example in relation to all this.

    Some people on the Right seem to blindly love the institution, and bring it up at every opportunity.

    Some people on the Left will always want to abolish it, similarly regardless of what they do.

    The reality is very different. The Monarchy, like many institutions, has to constantly evolve in order to meet the expectations of a changing world. Because that is what the vast majority expect of them.

    If they did not, the Monarchy would either end or be sidelined. Whereas the main players in my lifetime (the Queen, Charles and William) are adept at evolving in order to survive.

    Much like those Companies that survived who used to do terrible things, in our 21st Century eyes.

    Genuine question:
    I haven't researched it but do you think the Queen should formally apologise for the slave trade the monarchy in the past were involved in?
  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    VespaPX said:

    VespaPX said:

    Before people stick the knife in for all the Daily Mail links he shares, remember this is a really tough time for Vespa at the moment.

    Farage booted from his radio show.
    Tommy Robinson arrested, yet again.
    Statues of slave traders torn down.
    And a global movement championing long overdue equality for black people.

    Thoughts and prayers pal, thoughts and prayers.

    Couldn't be more happy than i am now.
    Just retired at 58, in the process of moving to a new house.
    Life's all good here (pal?)
    Great stuff.

    I hope you've done your due diligence and aren't moving next door to a load of brown people?
    Nice description.............not!
    Forgot to say, congrats on retiring at 58.
    Gives you plenty of leisure time to get worked up over Daily Mail articles on refugees.

    Celebrate with a halal certified kebab, you've definitely earnt it.
  • NOSTRINOSTRI Member Posts: 1,459
    "I haven't researched it but" is a nice way to summarise everything you've ever posted on this forum.
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