1. Interesting. So what do you regard that I’ve said as dangerous? Anybody can have as many jabs as they wish, that’s always been my view. Personal choice.
If it was as simple as it just being about the 1 person, I would agree with you. But life is not like that. To give a simple (and all too common) example from my own family, a close family member has what they like to call these days "life limiting" cancer. She has a Multidisciplinary team looking after her, which does not appear currently to include either an anaesthetist or a menopause specialist. Her youngest son still lives at home. He laps up the same nonsense you do, and refuses to be vaccinated. My close family member has been told if she continues to allow her son to live with her, her risk of dying increases. Because she has no immune system due to the cancer treatment. You think that is not dangerous?
2. What do you not understand about the statement from Grant Shapps? Let me see-why he said it, why anyone should listen to a blind word he says. That sort of thing
3. What do you not understand about a global vaccine trial?
I have tried to understand it. I think I have (for a non-scientist) a reasonable understanding. I have no idea whether you understand it at all.
4. Chris Whitty said most wont catch the virus. I saw his lips move. 3.7 million cases in the last week of 2021 kinda goes against that statement. Or is there a difference between a ‘ case’ or catching a ‘ virus’?
I presume he said that quite some time ago. Sometimes you really need to ask yourself which is the better expert:-
(1) Someone who provides theories on available information, and continually re-evaluates those opinions as more data emerges; or
(2) Someone who comes up with a theory, sticks to it regardless of the extra info as new data and new variants emerge, and completely ignores any info that does not agree with his original theory?
I am a number (1) kind of person. Case/virus-no expert, but I would say they are the same thing.
5. During 2020 I never saw anybody cough or sneeze.Since the vaccines roll outs,never a day goes by without folks coughing and sneezing.
Really? You are either extraordinarily lucky, or have very few friends. Me-I saw lots of people cough in 2020. Worst of all, me. Sneezing? Not so much.
6. The unvaxxed are 4-5 more likely to be hospitalised? Not by the stats I’ve looked at. Unless you’re talking about a certain age group ( which is the same group every flu season)or those with poor immune systems, for various reasons. The highest death rates worldwide, are in countries with more than 50% obesity, with only a few exceptions.That will be in the review and in Bill Gates book. The unvaccinated are 20-30 more times likely to die? What benchmark is used to come up with that? 5000 young or healthy? Or 5000 that fall into other categories? So yours is a blanket rule of fact?
This is the bit I mentioned before. Here is the current link:-
It is, without question, the most comprehensive UK statistics. Look particularly at Table 1. That is the basis for all current stats as to your increased risk of death.
It is not a "blanket rule of fact"- it is the real figures on who has died, with universally accepted factors such as age of people built in.
It is, without question, the most comprehensive UK statistics. Look particularly at Table 1. That is the basis for all current stats as to your increased risk of death.
It is not a "blanket rule of fact"- it is the real figures on who has died, with universally accepted factors such as age of people built in.
Not so interesting this time. Doctors,nurses and relatives have spoken out about patients not dying of the result of any symptoms regarding Sars2. You can dissect the official line from officials,and should realise the official number of total deaths is wrong. Birx in the US did that from the off.Nothing to do with Sars2 . Tests from the off were useless,they’ve admitted that. So,on worldometers,and yes, the governments figures are on there, not one case or death has been removed from over 200 countries,although the official line for the UK was to suddenly knock off 5K deaths, but no cases,near the start.
It is, without question, the most comprehensive UK statistics. Look particularly at Table 1. That is the basis for all current stats as to your increased risk of death.
It is not a "blanket rule of fact"- it is the real figures on who has died, with universally accepted factors such as age of people built in.
Not so interesting this time. Doctors,nurses and relatives have spoken out about patients not dying of the result of any symptoms regarding Sars2. You can dissect the official line from officials,and should realise the official number of total deaths is wrong. Birx in the US did that from the off.Nothing to do with Sars2 . Tests from the off were useless,they’ve admitted that. So,on worldometers,and yes, the governments figures are on there, not one case or death has been removed from over 200 countries,although the official line for the UK was to suddenly knock off 5K deaths, but no cases,near the start.
Your link is mumbo jumbo,spoon fed.
How is your long term data coming along?
You clearly do not understand the basis for these figures.
The starting point is everyone who died in those 10 months, and whether or not they were vaccinated.
You can certainly argue about how accurate the Covid figures are. But the 96% figure is startling. Any blurring of whether Covid was the effective cause of death (because the definition generally for death by Covid is a bit rubbish) would surely make the difference less pronounced, not more. That 96% figure is massive.
But the deaths from any cause figure? It has nothing to do with Covid per se. It is just standard calculations for death rates, using accepted actuarial guidelines.
You clearly do not understand the basis for these figures.
The starting point is everyone who died in those 10 months, and whether or not they were vaccinated.
You can certainly argue about how accurate the Covid figures are. But the 96% figure is startling. Any blurring of whether Covid was the effective cause of death (because the definition generally for death by Covid is a bit rubbish) would surely make the difference less pronounced, not more. That 96% figure is massive.
But the deaths from any cause figure? It has nothing to do with Covid per se. It is just standard calculations for death rates, using accepted actuarial guidelines.
I’ll keep this quite brief, for now. The minuscule chance of dying hasn’t changed since the start. Most were 80+years with commorbidities.The NHS said that they were in a far better place in Jan2021.Any deaths in different age groups definitely needs investigating.
Figures put out are set to deceive. The unvaccinated are 20or30 times more likely to die? 20 or 30 times of a minuscule number, still leaves a tiny number.What is classed as unvaccinated these days? 1300 elderly die each day in UK records,so you would expect that most of those can go down as vaccinated deaths,but they aren’t, because it doesn’t suit at this stage.
Chris Whitty in June 2021 talking about easing restrictions being the correct option to take by the Government,mainly because restrictions will push back hospitalisations and deaths to the winter months. Does that sound like somebody has great faith in the vaccines on offer?
They say the vaccines will always be imperfect,so they are on a search for an imperfect vaccine?
The starting point of a vaccine is to encourage antibodies, sounds good. When you make vaccines for age groups, then there’s the problem.
For instance,that vaccine doesn’t take into account any of an individuals health data. You could easily have ten categories for the 80+year olds, from very good health ,a fairly good immune system, all the way down to garbage for both. So they’re making an age related vaccine to cover all that? I don’t think so.
It’s the state of the health of the individual that matters. Many have health issues they’re not aware of, or choose to ignore.
Going by the official narrative,’ COVID positive’ means those are ill,have symptoms. Do you remember those in caves saying ‘ those that cure will kill?’
37 surgeries in London have recently been sold to a subsidiary of an American company. Operose.
Always love these scare stories about the NHS being "sold". People spend lots of time and energy "protecting" "our" NHS. Meanwhile, the NHS continues to do what it has pretty much always done. For example:-
1. Doesn't pay for most costs of training staff. That is left to Universities, Tuition Fees, and the Taxpayer. £230,000-plus to train 1 Doctor. How long must a UK Dr stay in the NHS in return? 0 Minutes. 2. Most eye problems? Pay an optician 3. Most teeth problems? Pay a dentist 4. Prescriptions? £9.35 please. Even if the medicine costs 50 pence. 5. Unable to look after yourself? Pay for a Care Home-if you cannot pay, Government foots the bill; worst of all 6. Taking time dying? That will be a hospice. Amazingly, nothing to do with the NHS
Yes, lots of stuff the NHS do is great. But it is 1 of the largest employers in the world. The largest healthcare Company in the World. With a massive budget.
French anti-vaxx leaders join hundreds of mourners in Paris at funeral of eccentric unvaccinated Bogdanoff twins who died from Covid aged 72 within a week of each other
Hundreds of mourners including anti-vaxxers gathered for the funeral of the 'extraterrestrial' French TV star twins who became infamous for their shared love of plastic surgery. Igor and Grichka Bogdanoff died with Covid over the new year within a week of each other, both aged 72, after earlier refusing to be vaccinated against the virus. A large crowd gathered for the service in the Madeleine church in Paris. Prominent guests included former minister Luc Ferry and singer Francis Lalanne, a leading voice of France's anti-vaxxer movement. The identical twins shot to fame as the heartthrob presenters of the hit 1980s science show Temps X on the country's TF1 channel, before carving out careers as amateur and often controversial science writers.
High-flying father-of-two Scottish computer games developer dies from Covid aged 51 'because his fear of needles meant he was too scared to get vaccinated'
Stewart Gilray (left, right in hospital), CEO of development company Just Add Water, was hospitalised with Covid-19 on December 20 but later died on Thursday. His grieving widow Bec has urged the public who are worried about getting the jab to overcome their fears and get vaccinated, reports The Daily Record. The father-of-two, from Aberdeen, described having Covid as 'horrendous' and said he 'didn't wish this on anyone' shortly before he was admitted to hospital.
MARTIN SAMUEL: Novak Djokovic is a MENACE... if he left home knowingly on December 17 with a highly contagious and deadly disease and did not have the basic humanity to wear a mask, then he is no freedom fighter
MARTIN SAMUEL: If he does not wish to be vaccinated, contracts covid, then leaves home knowingly with a highly-contagious virus he stops being a freedom fighter and becomes a menace.
Novak Djokovic's family dodged questions about tennis star's Covid test, showed 'disgust and contempt' for everyone involved in his Australian visa saga at tense press conference, body language expert says
Body language expert David Stephens said his father Srdjan and brother Djordje displayed signs of 'contempt and disgust' while his mother Djiana showed 'sadness' over the situation.
Calls for Australia to be STRIPPED of the right to hold tennis grand slam tournament for the way it treated Novak Djokovic as authorities go on 'red alert' for clashes in the stands between the Serb's fans and opponents
Tennis players and stars have called for Australia to be stripped of the tournament - as Nova Djokovic was finally released from immigration detention following a court ruling on Monday.
MIKE DICKSON: Tone-deaf Djokovic clan were like raging bulls in a china shop when cool heads and humility were required... but immigration minister Alex Hawke still has Novak's fate in his hands
No sooner had their most famous member regained his freedom from a Melbourne judge than they were almost inviting the Australian government to intervene and send him home.
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https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsinvolvingcovid19byvaccinationstatusengland/deathsoccurringbetween1januaryand31october2021
It is, without question, the most comprehensive UK statistics. Look particularly at Table 1. That is the basis for all current stats as to your increased risk of death.
It is not a "blanket rule of fact"- it is the real figures on who has died, with universally accepted factors such as age of people built in.
This is the bit I mentioned before. Here is the current link:-
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsinvolvingcovid19byvaccinationstatusengland/deathsoccurringbetween1januaryand31october2021
It is, without question, the most comprehensive UK statistics. Look particularly at Table 1. That is the basis for all current stats as to your increased risk of death.
It is not a "blanket rule of fact"- it is the real figures on who has died, with universally accepted factors such as age of people built in.
Not so interesting this time.
Doctors,nurses and relatives have spoken out about patients not dying of the result of any symptoms regarding Sars2.
You can dissect the official line from officials,and should realise the official number of total deaths is wrong. Birx in the US did that from the off.Nothing to do with Sars2 .
Tests from the off were useless,they’ve admitted that.
So,on worldometers,and yes, the governments figures are on there, not one case or death has been removed from over 200 countries,although the official line for the UK was to suddenly knock off 5K deaths, but no cases,near the start.
Your link is mumbo jumbo,spoon fed.
How is your long term data coming along?
Collective data taken from the off is false,it can’t be anything other than that.
Doctors,nurses and relatives have spoken out about patients not dying of the result of any symptoms regarding Sars2.
You can dissect the official line from officials,and should realise the official number of total deaths is wrong. Birx in the US did that from the off.Nothing to do with Sars2 .
Tests from the off were useless,they’ve admitted that.
So,on worldometers,and yes, the governments figures are on there, not one case or death has been removed from over 200 countries,although the official line for the UK was to suddenly knock off 5K deaths, but no cases,near the start.
Your link is mumbo jumbo,spoon fed.
How is your long term data coming along?
You clearly do not understand the basis for these figures.
The starting point is everyone who died in those 10 months, and whether or not they were vaccinated.
You can certainly argue about how accurate the Covid figures are. But the 96% figure is startling. Any blurring of whether Covid was the effective cause of death (because the definition generally for death by Covid is a bit rubbish) would surely make the difference less pronounced, not more. That 96% figure is massive.
But the deaths from any cause figure? It has nothing to do with Covid per se. It is just standard calculations for death rates, using accepted actuarial guidelines.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10381687/New-York-hospitals-admit-nearly-HALF-COVID-patients-admitted-unrelated-maladies.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10383379/Connecticut-wants-nursing-homes-accept-COVID-positive-transfers-cases-slow.html
You clearly do not understand the basis for these figures.
The starting point is everyone who died in those 10 months, and whether or not they were vaccinated.
You can certainly argue about how accurate the Covid figures are. But the 96% figure is startling. Any blurring of whether Covid was the effective cause of death (because the definition generally for death by Covid is a bit rubbish) would surely make the difference less pronounced, not more. That 96% figure is massive.
But the deaths from any cause figure? It has nothing to do with Covid per se. It is just standard calculations for death rates, using accepted actuarial guidelines.
I’ll keep this quite brief, for now.
The minuscule chance of dying hasn’t changed since the start. Most were 80+years with commorbidities.The NHS said that they were in a far better place in Jan2021.Any deaths in different age groups definitely needs investigating.
Figures put out are set to deceive.
The unvaccinated are 20or30 times more likely to die? 20 or 30 times of a minuscule number, still leaves a tiny number.What is classed as unvaccinated these days?
1300 elderly die each day in UK records,so you would expect that most of those can go down as vaccinated deaths,but they aren’t, because it doesn’t suit at this stage.
Chris Whitty in June 2021 talking about easing restrictions being the correct option to take by the Government,mainly because restrictions will push back hospitalisations and deaths to the winter months. Does that sound like somebody has great faith in the vaccines on offer?
They say the vaccines will always be imperfect,so they are on a search for an imperfect vaccine?
The starting point of a vaccine is to encourage antibodies, sounds good.
When you make vaccines for age groups, then there’s the problem.
For instance,that vaccine doesn’t take into account any of an individuals health data.
You could easily have ten categories for the 80+year olds, from very good health ,a fairly good immune system, all the way down to garbage for both. So they’re making an age related vaccine to cover all that? I don’t think so.
It’s the state of the health of the individual that matters.
Many have health issues they’re not aware of, or choose to ignore.
Bit longer than intended, but back later, maybe.
Do you remember those in caves saying ‘ those that cure will kill?’
To be continued..
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10383993/UK-health-chiefs-blasted-statistics-watchdog-claiming-200-000-people-catching-Omicron-day.html
Operose.
1. Doesn't pay for most costs of training staff. That is left to Universities, Tuition Fees, and the Taxpayer. £230,000-plus to train 1 Doctor. How long must a UK Dr stay in the NHS in return? 0 Minutes.
2. Most eye problems? Pay an optician
3. Most teeth problems? Pay a dentist
4. Prescriptions? £9.35 please. Even if the medicine costs 50 pence.
5. Unable to look after yourself? Pay for a Care Home-if you cannot pay, Government foots the bill; worst of all
6. Taking time dying? That will be a hospice. Amazingly, nothing to do with the NHS
Yes, lots of stuff the NHS do is great. But it is 1 of the largest employers in the world. The largest healthcare Company in the World. With a massive budget.
Not exactly "cradle to grave" though, is it?
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/cdc-director-sheepishly-admits-justice-sotomayor-issued-covid-misinformation-hospitalized
Hundreds of mourners including anti-vaxxers gathered for the funeral of the 'extraterrestrial' French TV star twins who became infamous for their shared love of plastic surgery. Igor and Grichka Bogdanoff died with Covid over the new year within a week of each other, both aged 72, after earlier refusing to be vaccinated against the virus. A large crowd gathered for the service in the Madeleine church in Paris. Prominent guests included former minister Luc Ferry and singer Francis Lalanne, a leading voice of France's anti-vaxxer movement. The identical twins shot to fame as the heartthrob presenters of the hit 1980s science show Temps X on the country's TF1 channel, before carving out careers as amateur and often controversial science writers.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10388587/Hundreds-mourners-gather-Paris-funeral-eccentric-French-TV-star-twins.html
High-flying father-of-two Scottish computer games developer dies from Covid aged 51 'because his fear of needles meant he was too scared to get vaccinated'
Stewart Gilray (left, right in hospital), CEO of development company Just Add Water, was hospitalised with Covid-19 on December 20 but later died on Thursday. His grieving widow Bec has urged the public who are worried about getting the jab to overcome their fears and get vaccinated, reports The Daily Record. The father-of-two, from Aberdeen, described having Covid as 'horrendous' and said he 'didn't wish this on anyone' shortly before he was admitted to hospital.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10388747/Computer-games-developer-dies-Covid-aged-51-fear-needles-meant-did-not-jab.html
MARTIN SAMUEL: Novak Djokovic is a MENACE... if he left home knowingly on December 17 with a highly contagious and deadly disease and did not have the basic humanity to wear a mask, then he is no freedom fighter
MARTIN SAMUEL: If he does not wish to be vaccinated, contracts covid, then leaves home knowingly with a highly-contagious virus he stops being a freedom fighter and becomes a menace.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-10387879/MARTIN-SAMUEL-Novak-Djokovic-no-freedom-fighter-hes-menace.html
Novak Djokovic's family dodged questions about tennis star's Covid test, showed 'disgust and contempt' for everyone involved in his Australian visa saga at tense press conference, body language expert says
Body language expert David Stephens said his father Srdjan and brother Djordje displayed signs of 'contempt and disgust' while his mother Djiana showed 'sadness' over the situation.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10389079/Body-language-expert-explains-Novak-Djokovics-family-actions-Australian-Covid-visa-saga.html
Calls for Australia to be STRIPPED of the right to hold tennis grand slam tournament for the way it treated Novak Djokovic as authorities go on 'red alert' for clashes in the stands between the Serb's fans and opponents
Tennis players and stars have called for Australia to be stripped of the tournament - as Nova Djokovic was finally released from immigration detention following a court ruling on Monday.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10388953/Calls-Australia-STRIPPED-Australian-Open-way-treated-Novak-Djokovic.html
MIKE DICKSON: Tone-deaf Djokovic clan were like raging bulls in a china shop when cool heads and humility were required... but immigration minister Alex Hawke still has Novak's fate in his hands
No sooner had their most famous member regained his freedom from a Melbourne judge than they were almost inviting the Australian government to intervene and send him home.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-10388259/Tone-deaf-Djokovic-clan-raging-bulls-china-shop-cool-heads-humility-required.html