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  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,780
    edited October 2022
    Life is sometimes about priorities. Particularly in tough times. Here are some of the current stated priorities of this Government:-

    1. Looking at ways to cut payments to the poor
    2. Looking at ways to cut payments to the old
    3. Looking at ways how best to reduce/remove help for fuel bills
    4. Promise to cut taxes-then increase them to record levels
    5. Increase defence spending by 50%
    6. Change the Law so that Bankers can have unlimited Bonuses
    7. No strategy whatsoever to curb inflation-unless you count trying to reduce workers' pay

    When did Truss join the anti-growth coalition?

    Even Nigel Farage must think this is bonkers.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    Essexphil said:

    Life is sometimes about priorities. Particularly in tough times. Here are some of the current stated priorities of this Government:-

    1. Looking at ways to cut payments to the poor
    2. Looking at ways to cut payments to the old
    3. Looking at ways how best to reduce/remove help for fuel bills
    4. Promise to cut taxes-then increase them to record levels
    5. Increase defence spending by 50%
    6. Change the Law so that Bankers can have unlimited Bonuses
    7. No strategy whatsoever to curb inflation-unless you count trying to reduce workers' pay

    When did Truss join the anti-growth coalition?

    Even Nigel Farage must think this is bonkers.

    That just about sums it up.
    Obviously not all the Tories have realised that the people that voted for them last time were Brexiteers, and pensioners.

    Liz Truss faces make-or-break PMQs: More misery for PM as food prices drive inflation to 10.1%, her latest U-turn could leave pensioners £430 worse off... and Gove twists the knife again




    The headline CPI rate reached 10.1 per cent in September, up from 9.9 per cent the previous month and matching the 40-year high that it hit in July. The grim figure was driven by a huge 14.5 per cent annual rise in food costs, and came despite petrol prices coming down slightly. Chancellor Jeremy Hunt said the government will 'prioritise help for the most vulnerable' and take action to stabilise the economy, after he dramatically junked Liz Truss's tax-cutting plans. But ministers are facing fury after it emerged they could scrap the triple lock on pensions as part of a desperate £40billion squeeze on spending. Raising pensions in line with earnings instead of inflation from April would mean the elderly getting £434 less a year, saving the Treasury around £4.5billion. Ms Truss faces a brutal PMQs session today. Former Cabinet minister Sajid Javid, who was dismissed as 'sh**' in vicious briefing from Truss allies over the weekend, could wield the knife as he is slated for a question. Michael Gove has told a private meeting that Ms Truss will be ousted.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11330845/More-pain-Britons-inflation-rises-10-1-driven-food-prices.html
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,780
    edited October 2022
    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    Life is sometimes about priorities. Particularly in tough times. Here are some of the current stated priorities of this Government:-

    1. Looking at ways to cut payments to the poor
    2. Looking at ways to cut payments to the old
    3. Looking at ways how best to reduce/remove help for fuel bills
    4. Promise to cut taxes-then increase them to record levels
    5. Increase defence spending by 50%
    6. Change the Law so that Bankers can have unlimited Bonuses
    7. No strategy whatsoever to curb inflation-unless you count trying to reduce workers' pay

    When did Truss join the anti-growth coalition?

    Even Nigel Farage must think this is bonkers.

    That just about sums it up.
    Obviously not all the Tories have realised that the people that voted for them last time were Brexiteers, and pensioners.

    Liz Truss faces make-or-break PMQs: More misery for PM as food prices drive inflation to 10.1%, her latest U-turn could leave pensioners £430 worse off... and Gove twists the knife again




    The headline CPI rate reached 10.1 per cent in September, up from 9.9 per cent the previous month and matching the 40-year high that it hit in July. The grim figure was driven by a huge 14.5 per cent annual rise in food costs, and came despite petrol prices coming down slightly. Chancellor Jeremy Hunt said the government will 'prioritise help for the most vulnerable' and take action to stabilise the economy, after he dramatically junked Liz Truss's tax-cutting plans. But ministers are facing fury after it emerged they could scrap the triple lock on pensions as part of a desperate £40billion squeeze on spending. Raising pensions in line with earnings instead of inflation from April would mean the elderly getting £434 less a year, saving the Treasury around £4.5billion. Ms Truss faces a brutal PMQs session today. Former Cabinet minister Sajid Javid, who was dismissed as 'sh**' in vicious briefing from Truss allies over the weekend, could wield the knife as he is slated for a question. Michael Gove has told a private meeting that Ms Truss will be ousted.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11330845/More-pain-Britons-inflation-rises-10-1-driven-food-prices.html
    Just want to 1 part of that into perspective.

    If you reduce a pension by £434, that does not happen just the once. That reduced amount is factored in to every future pension rise.

    Putting that into real Maths, for a healthy 65 year old to get an annuity of £434 per annum, that is about £8,000.

    So-the real cut would be £8,000.00 for all 65-yr-old pensioners. Not £434.

    And that is just the first year's reduction. That reduction could easily apply every single year.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    Essexphil said:

    Life is sometimes about priorities. Particularly in tough times. Here are some of the current stated priorities of this Government:-

    1. Looking at ways to cut payments to the poor
    2. Looking at ways to cut payments to the old
    3. Looking at ways how best to reduce/remove help for fuel bills
    4. Promise to cut taxes-then increase them to record levels
    5. Increase defence spending by 50%
    6. Change the Law so that Bankers can have unlimited Bonuses
    7. No strategy whatsoever to curb inflation-unless you count trying to reduce workers' pay

    When did Truss join the anti-growth coalition?

    Even Nigel Farage must think this is bonkers.

    I dont know if you saw NewsNight last night.
    They featured an old woman who has difficulty looking after herself.
    The falls at least twice per day, every day.
    Due to the lack of social care, they estimated that she alone had called out more than 200 ambulances.
    Sometimes cuts are a false economy.
    A carer popping around twice per day would solve her problem, and free up ambulances for emergencies.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    Life is sometimes about priorities. Particularly in tough times. Here are some of the current stated priorities of this Government:-

    1. Looking at ways to cut payments to the poor
    2. Looking at ways to cut payments to the old
    3. Looking at ways how best to reduce/remove help for fuel bills
    4. Promise to cut taxes-then increase them to record levels
    5. Increase defence spending by 50%
    6. Change the Law so that Bankers can have unlimited Bonuses
    7. No strategy whatsoever to curb inflation-unless you count trying to reduce workers' pay

    When did Truss join the anti-growth coalition?

    Even Nigel Farage must think this is bonkers.

    That just about sums it up.
    Obviously not all the Tories have realised that the people that voted for them last time were Brexiteers, and pensioners.

    Liz Truss faces make-or-break PMQs: More misery for PM as food prices drive inflation to 10.1%, her latest U-turn could leave pensioners £430 worse off... and Gove twists the knife again




    The headline CPI rate reached 10.1 per cent in September, up from 9.9 per cent the previous month and matching the 40-year high that it hit in July. The grim figure was driven by a huge 14.5 per cent annual rise in food costs, and came despite petrol prices coming down slightly. Chancellor Jeremy Hunt said the government will 'prioritise help for the most vulnerable' and take action to stabilise the economy, after he dramatically junked Liz Truss's tax-cutting plans. But ministers are facing fury after it emerged they could scrap the triple lock on pensions as part of a desperate £40billion squeeze on spending. Raising pensions in line with earnings instead of inflation from April would mean the elderly getting £434 less a year, saving the Treasury around £4.5billion. Ms Truss faces a brutal PMQs session today. Former Cabinet minister Sajid Javid, who was dismissed as 'sh**' in vicious briefing from Truss allies over the weekend, could wield the knife as he is slated for a question. Michael Gove has told a private meeting that Ms Truss will be ousted.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11330845/More-pain-Britons-inflation-rises-10-1-driven-food-prices.html
    Just want to 1 part of that into perspective.

    If you reduce a pension by £434, that does not happen just the once. That reduced amount is factored in to every future pension rise.

    Putting that into real Maths, for a healthy 65 year old to get an annuity of £434 per annum, that is about £8,000.

    So-the real cut would be £8,000.00 for all 65-yr-old pensioners. Not £434.

    And that is just the first year's reduction. That reduction could easily apply every single year.
    Could there be a worse time to do this?
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,780
    Just 1 more comment. On the triple lock.

    At the last election, both major Parties made a very clear manifesto promise. The Tories promised to maintain the triple lock. Labour promised to maintain the triple lock. Pensioners nearly always vote in large numbers for the Conservatives.

    But it turns out that 1 of the Parties was lying. And, purely in its own self-interest, is refusing to allow a General Election.
  • stokefcstokefc Member Posts: 7,830
    It wouldn't surprise me if it kicked off this winter just to force a general election
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    Essexphil said:

    Just 1 more comment. On the triple lock.

    At the last election, both major Parties made a very clear manifesto promise. The Tories promised to maintain the triple lock. Labour promised to maintain the triple lock. Pensioners nearly always vote in large numbers for the Conservatives.

    But it turns out that 1 of the Parties was lying. And, purely in its own self-interest, is refusing to allow a General Election.

  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    Liz Truss betting odds: Bookmakers revise the stakes on her survival as PM

    The odds of Liz Truss being pushed out of office have risen to 67% as many punters are betting on her leaving before the end of the year

    Rishi Sunak and Jeremy Hunt are tipped as the most likely contenders to take over, but Penny Mourdant and Ben Wallace are also in the running

    Don't rule out Boris Johnson though – at least that's what one recent poll suggested, but would he sip from the poisoned chalice twice?


    How UK bookmakers rate Liz Truss's chances of remaining as PM
    1/2 - bet365

    1/2 - Betway

    5/6 - Betfair

    8/13 - Paddy Power

    4/9 - Sky Bet

    4/9 - BoyleSports

    4/11 - Coral



    https://uk.yahoo.com/finance/news/liz-truss-betting-odds-prime-minister-124639220.html
  • rabdenirorabdeniro Member Posts: 4,434
    And another jumps ship .........
    Home Secretary Suella Braverman

  • rabdenirorabdeniro Member Posts: 4,434
    Chicken Tory Masala! Shocked curry fan spots the face of former Prime Minister Boris Johnson in his korma... so do YOU see the resemblance (or are you having naan of it)?



    wonder how long it took him to construct this ?, not a bad likeness though.
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,780
    rabdeniro said:

    And another jumps ship .........
    Home Secretary Suella Braverman

    She's not jumping ship.
    That poisonous witch is trying to take over the wheel.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    Essexphil said:

    rabdeniro said:

    And another jumps ship .........
    Home Secretary Suella Braverman

    She's not jumping ship.
    That poisonous witch is trying to take over the wheel.
    Grant Shapps?
  • lucy4lucy4 Member Posts: 7,939
  • rabdenirorabdeniro Member Posts: 4,434
    HAYSIE said:

    Liz Truss betting odds: Bookmakers revise the stakes on her survival as PM

    The odds of Liz Truss being pushed out of office have risen to 67% as many punters are betting on her leaving before the end of the year

    Rishi Sunak and Jeremy Hunt are tipped as the most likely contenders to take over, but Penny Mourdant and Ben Wallace are also in the running

    Don't rule out Boris Johnson though – at least that's what one recent poll suggested, but would he sip from the poisoned chalice twice?


    How UK bookmakers rate Liz Truss's chances of remaining as PM
    1/2 - bet365

    1/2 - Betway

    5/6 - Betfair

    8/13 - Paddy Power

    4/9 - Sky Bet

    4/9 - BoyleSports

    4/11 - Coral



    https://uk.yahoo.com/finance/news/liz-truss-betting-odds-prime-minister-124639220.html

    She'll be lucky if she sees the week oot.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    rabdeniro said:

    And another jumps ship .........
    Home Secretary Suella Braverman

    Followed by the Chief Whip.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 169,670
    HAYSIE said:

    Liz Truss betting odds: Bookmakers revise the stakes on her survival as PM

    The odds of Liz Truss being pushed out of office have risen to 67% as many punters are betting on her leaving before the end of the year

    Rishi Sunak and Jeremy Hunt are tipped as the most likely contenders to take over, but Penny Mourdant and Ben Wallace are also in the running

    Don't rule out Boris Johnson though – at least that's what one recent poll suggested, but would he sip from the poisoned chalice twice?


    How UK bookmakers rate Liz Truss's chances of remaining as PM
    1/2 - bet365

    1/2 - Betway

    5/6 - Betfair

    8/13 - Paddy Power

    4/9 - Sky Bet

    4/9 - BoyleSports

    4/11 - Coral



    https://uk.yahoo.com/finance/news/liz-truss-betting-odds-prime-minister-124639220.html

    @HAYSIE


    1/2 to remain as PM?

    Other way round, surely? 1/2 NOT to be PM?
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    edited October 2022
    The odds of Liz Truss being pushed out of office have risen to 67% as many punters are betting on her leaving before the end of the year
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