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What would you do ? ..... or what should you do ?

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  • FeelGroggyFeelGroggy Member Posts: 840
    I fold the queens with your stack yeah, I don't think that one is close.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
    MISTY4ME said:

    HAYSIE said:

    MISTY4ME said:

    HAYSIE said:



    In the end though, he got rid of me 'coz I was trying to tell him what the European Sales people needed ..... only for him to implement exactly what I'd asked for




    You are completely deluded.

    What was this ingenious suggestion?
    I told you that European Sales Staff needed a basic wage and couldn't work on Commission alone.....which you implemented not long after I left. B)
    I first introduced a basic wage in 1999.
    I was subsequently outvoted by Barry, and Drew, and we went back to commission only.
    I was banging on about basics for many years.
    I believe I reintroduced it in 2007.
    I never once had a basic wage ....... Aug 2006 - April 2009 :|

    Where were you during that time?
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
    HAYSIE said:

    MISTY4ME said:

    HAYSIE said:

    MISTY4ME said:

    HAYSIE said:



    In the end though, he got rid of me 'coz I was trying to tell him what the European Sales people needed ..... only for him to implement exactly what I'd asked for




    You are completely deluded.

    What was this ingenious suggestion?
    I told you that European Sales Staff needed a basic wage and couldn't work on Commission alone.....which you implemented not long after I left. B)
    I first introduced a basic wage in 1999.
    I was subsequently outvoted by Barry, and Drew, and we went back to commission only.
    I was banging on about basics for many years.
    I believe I reintroduced it in 2007.
    I never once had a basic wage ....... Aug 2006 - April 2009 :|
    Where were you during that time?

    I have messaged you.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
    MISTY4ME said:

    HAYSIE said:

    MISTY4ME said:

    HAYSIE said:

    MISTY4ME said:

    HAYSIE said:

    After you lost there are 3 possible ways that you could have changed the outcome.

    1 Play the queens.
    2 Fold the aces.
    3 Play some of the hands between the queens and the aces differently.

    It's too late

    I'm happy with the way I played .........sometimes you are just going to get extremely UNLUCKY :/:'(

    .....as I said on the 1st page
    What was your double up hand after you lost with the aces?
    A-9s

    TommyD called with 3-4s .....'coz it was his BB
    You might find that your very short stack, and the likelihood that his two cards were live, may have also played a part in his decision making process.
    Obviously :)
    Your post seemed to infer that he called purely because he was on the BB.

    TommyD called with 3-4s .....'coz it was his BB
  • Bean81Bean81 Member Posts: 590
    edited November 2023
    TheWaddy said:

    If you were put in a situation where you had 'A-Aces' and your opponent had A6o and you could run it once and the outcome was based on whether your family lived or died....

    And you had one choice, run it with a real deck or run it online, which would everyone pick?

    Ooooo thats a tough one for you guys, i 100% know the answer absolutely all would choose, but you certainly aint gonna put it on here!!!!!

    Kind of put things in perspective......

    Id be running mine whilst glancing over to Jacs/Misty/edge/stokefc's stubborn choice, raising my eyebrows at them as the As 6c online flops 5s 7s 8s...........

    Oh come on, this is great forum banter, you all recognise it but put your fingers in your ears and shout blah blah blah blah!

    What do you think 100% of players would say here?

    You're right, this is "great forum banter"...

    PS: I'm not paying for your coaching anymore. You told me here A6o all in pre when dominated can't lose, so I gave it a go, confident that the flop would come down 5h 7h 8h. No enhanced deck this time, no roller coaster of emotions.





  • HENDRIK62HENDRIK62 Member Posts: 3,202
    mumsie said:

    When you have AA , just before you shove, try logging out and back in again to change the outcome.

    I find if i roll up my left trouser and sneeze before pressing the call button I never lose
  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 9,051
    It's all behind him now.... Didn't he come 3rd and got through..... hic!
  • TheWaddyTheWaddy Member Posts: 1,592
    edited November 2023
    Bean81 said:

    TheWaddy said:

    If you were put in a situation where you had 'A-Aces' and your opponent had A6o and you could run it once and the outcome was based on whether your family lived or died....

    And you had one choice, run it with a real deck or run it online, which would everyone pick?

    Ooooo thats a tough one for you guys, i 100% know the answer absolutely all would choose, but you certainly aint gonna put it on here!!!!!

    Kind of put things in perspective......

    Id be running mine whilst glancing over to Jacs/Misty/edge/stokefc's stubborn choice, raising my eyebrows at them as the As 6c online flops 5s 7s 8s...........

    Oh come on, this is great forum banter, you all recognise it but put your fingers in your ears and shout blah blah blah blah!

    What do you think 100% of players would say here?

    You're right, this is "great forum banter"...

    PS: I'm not paying for your coaching anymore. You told me here A6o all in pre when dominated can't lose, so I gave it a go, confident that the flop would come down 5h 7h 8h. No enhanced deck this time, no roller coaster of emotions.





    Hmmm again, complete misunderstanding of anything i write.... i mean you accuse me of putting up random hands tht fit it with my rhetoric, then just put up this.

    Lets be clear, a dominated hand will win much more often than odds dictate in all in preflop situations, where poorer players overplay ace rag and the likes and are simply never able to fold... therefore keeping the poorer player on site.

    Enhanced hands means, there is far more action and many players holding an interest in a hand. They dont have to change lead, the poorest hand does not have to win every time... its just creating the beyond normal 'excitement'. Enhanced hands will often be better for the poorer player as they will chase more and win more than odds dictate.

    Which even when apparently i say 'the same thing over and over again', you are still just not getting it!

    I mean if it happened without deviation, clearly i could use it to win every time... which many other clique members have suggested i do.

    It appears the clique need to elect one member to try and explain to the others who share an IQ of 90 between them, just exactly what im saying..... as these replies at this very late stage are still clealry not understanding. An accountant you say? Wow....

    PS even here, the excitement of the hand, meant by the river your A6 had improved from needing a 6, to a 6, jack or 8. The very best example you could give, involved your A6 having more outs on the flop and the turn.
  • TheEdge949TheEdge949 Member Posts: 5,686
    TheWaddy said:

    Bean81 said:

    TheWaddy said:

    If you were put in a situation where you had 'A-Aces' and your opponent had A6o and you could run it once and the outcome was based on whether your family lived or died....

    And you had one choice, run it with a real deck or run it online, which would everyone pick?

    Ooooo thats a tough one for you guys, i 100% know the answer absolutely all would choose, but you certainly aint gonna put it on here!!!!!

    Kind of put things in perspective......

    Id be running mine whilst glancing over to Jacs/Misty/edge/stokefc's stubborn choice, raising my eyebrows at them as the As 6c online flops 5s 7s 8s...........

    Oh come on, this is great forum banter, you all recognise it but put your fingers in your ears and shout blah blah blah blah!

    What do you think 100% of players would say here?

    You're right, this is "great forum banter"...

    PS: I'm not paying for your coaching anymore. You told me here A6o all in pre when dominated can't lose, so I gave it a go, confident that the flop would come down 5h 7h 8h. No enhanced deck this time, no roller coaster of emotions.





    Hmmm again, complete misunderstanding of anything i write.... i mean you accuse me of putting up random hands tht fit it with my rhetoric, then just put up this.

    Lets be clear, a dominated hand will win much more often than odds dictate in all in preflop situations, where poorer players overplay ace rag and the likes and are simply never able to fold... therefore keeping the poorer player on site.

    Enhanced hands means, there is far more action and many players holding an interest in a hand. They dont have to change lead, the poorest hand does not have to win every time... its just creating the beyond normal 'excitement'. Enhanced hands will often be better for the poorer player as they will chase more and win more than odds dictate.

    Which even when apparently i say 'the same thing over and over again', you are still just not getting it!

    I mean if it happened without deviation, clearly i could use it to win every time... which many other clique members have suggested i do.

    It appears the clique need to elect one member to try and explain to the others who share an IQ of 90 between them, just exactly what im saying..... as these replies at this very late stage are still clealry not understanding. An accountant you say? Wow....

    PS even here, the excitement of the hand, meant by the river your A6 had improved from needing a 6, to a 6, jack or 8. The very best example you could give, involved your A6 having more outs on the flop and the turn.
    When I last underwent an IQ test I had a rating of 142

    You apparently have the rating of a sprout. It's similar to a cabbage only much, much smaller. Disliked by many and only really relevant a few times a year.

    Oh I love this forum banter.

  • mumsiemumsie Member Posts: 7,995
    Every time thewaddy gets proved wrong he says, that's not what I'm saying.

  • mumsiemumsie Member Posts: 7,995
    When @Bean81 post his A6 hand that proves you wrong, you say this.




    However, there is no misunderstanding , because you quite clearly say it and it earned you 3 LOLs due the ridiculousness of what you said.



  • rspca12rspca12 Member Posts: 618
    Yeah it a fold. expect call to lose decent amount.
  • MISTY4MEMISTY4ME Member Posts: 6,316
    rspca12 said:

    Yeah it a fold. expect call to lose decent amount.

    @rspca12

    Hi Chris

    ......FOLD with the Q-Queens did you mean .....or the A-Aces ??
  • MISTY4MEMISTY4ME Member Posts: 6,316
    edited November 2023

    What would you do with this hand ?.......

    . Would you CALL ....or FOLD ?

    Fairly Early Stages of a Semi to the Main. I was in around 10th place of 30 players left
    8 seats at the time with Late Reg. still open (became 11 seats in the end)

    What Should You Do ?

    :*
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    JACKDAWSmall blind20.0020.001932.50
    MISTY4MEBig blind40.0060.002560.00
    Your hole cards
    • J
    • J
    bearlytherFold
    ArrogantRaise120.00180.001390.00
    tophouseFold
    taywtFold
    JACKDAWRaise380.00560.001552.50
    MISTY4MECall360.00920.002200.00
    ArrogantFold
    Flop
    • 3
    • 10
    • 4
    JACKDAWAll-in1552.502472.500.00
    MISTY4ME ?
  • green_beergreen_beer Member Posts: 1,936
    more folding from the boring bunch is my hunch :)
  • Bean81Bean81 Member Posts: 590
    mumsie said:

    Every time thewaddy gets proved wrong he says, that's not what I'm saying.

    Everybody understands the point, which doesn't stand up to scrutiny. It's fun to probe a little bit to see the logic become even more flawed.

    Wad logic fail #1 of many: "I dont think it's rigged....but ace rag wins more often than it should to favour weaker players".

    How often will dominated off suit aces win online versus bigger aces, Wad? How about versus AA. Best estimate is fine.

    It's good that you agree posting a hand history is proof of nothing. We are making progress.


  • TheWaddyTheWaddy Member Posts: 1,592
    edited November 2023
    Bean81 said:

    mumsie said:

    Every time thewaddy gets proved wrong he says, that's not what I'm saying.

    Everybody understands the point, which doesn't stand up to scrutiny. It's fun to probe a little bit to see the logic become even more flawed.

    Wad logic fail #1 of many: "I dont think it's rigged....but ace rag wins more often than it should to favour weaker players".

    How often will dominated off suit aces win online versus bigger aces, Wad? How about versus AA. Best estimate is fine.

    It's good that you agree posting a hand history is proof of nothing. We are making progress.


    Real deck is roughly 1 in 4 a dominated ace will win... if you think you are seeing anything like this online, well you seeing different games to me....

    Rigged means; operate something fraudulently to gain an advantage... its a strong word... are casino spins 'operated fraudulently'??? Or are they just a gambling company using a percentage win rate?

    Rigged is not a word i use... its a word the clique uses... so im guessing all Skys casino is rigged (operating fraudulently) in your books.... If not , you are all wrong to keep using this word....

    Enhanced hands are the same for all. No-one outside of poker would understand how this would favour anyone at all.

    Thats 3 of the 'hi IQ and accountant' clique that continue to misunderstand what im saying.
  • TheWaddyTheWaddy Member Posts: 1,592
    edited November 2023
    MISTY4ME said:

    rspca12 said:

    Yeah it a fold. expect call to lose decent amount.

    @rspca12

    Hi Chris

    ......FOLD with the Q-Queens did you mean .....or the A-Aces ??
    I love the fact that despite the players he wanted to reply telling him foldddddddd... he continues to try to find someone who says call!!!

    QQ is such an obvious answer, that the fact you are still questioning it is beyond belief!

    As for the AA, then im still waiting for the apology that you attempted to belittle me by suggesting i would be the only one who would ever suggest that...... its not the first time you have been left with egg on your face attacking me is it???
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 169,576
    edited November 2023

    For newcomers to the Forum who may be a little confused by this;


    "are casino spins 'operated fraudulently'??? Or are they just a gambling company using a percentage win rate?"


    To be clear on this as to how Sky Casino & all other legit licenced rooms operate, both online & Live.

    "Slots" operate on a win-rate of around 97%, give or take a little. That is a pre-determined %.

    Roulette & Blackjack don't work that way, the maths of the game are sufficient to guarantee the house a return without any artificial pre-determination. In Blackjack it's ~2%, in Roulette nearer 5%. No matter where the ball falls or the cards turn, those %'s always work in the long-term.

  • TheWaddyTheWaddy Member Posts: 1,592
    To be clear 'casino spins', i did indeed mean slots. Although these are 'predetermined percentage rates', to use the word 'rigged' would be incorrect. As this suggests something fraudulent.

    As to use the word 'rigged' with poker.

    Perhaps the same few can understand now the difference between rigged and producing something for gambling entertainment purposes...

    Im guessing not tho....
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