Also Don a good target I set myself is not to be a certain amount up (as no matter how good you play you can still get beats) intsead aim for an amount of hands or amount of time (I find hands easier as time is hard to calculate with going to toilet etc) then when you hit that target stand up and go.
This helps discipline incase you wanna just keep playing forever if you're getting nasty beats.
In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary : Hi Don It is not the post in itself, but, using asterisks to get around the profanity filter Posted by acebarry10
lol ridic how strict this place is with swearing, we all have to be 18
Good Idea with this Don all the best mate I agree with Lambert and don't set BR goals. I can be known to chase money not to make goals but to make up losses and it never works you just end up losing more by trying to chase, just look to play every hand the right way and the rest will sort itself out.
I've got a question about what you said above Dude. I was teaching my girlfriend (Skyalias - Llamas) how to beat 4NL last night, because she usually plays SnGs and MTTs. I usually do exactly what you said above about setting targets about hands/time rather than profit.
So I was teaching her on her account last night and I said we'd just play 1 table for 1 hour just to introduce her, tell her about the opening range, bet sizing etc.
Something happened that has never happened to me ever when playing 1 table. We played for 1 hour and literally didn't get one hand that was worth of my standard 20p raise. So essentially we had just folded for 1 hour so our £4 was down to about £3.70 ish just through blinds. Now if this was the case and you said you'd play for 1 hour, would you just walk away with your 30p loss or would you carry on for a bit (it's not like I/we were tilted or anything) so you can actually play some poker?
In the end, we stuck around for another half hour, came across AK off, got up to £5.50 and called it a night (it was about 1am at this point). I was just wondering if you think this is a discipline problem or not because it's not like I carried on playing because I'd lost loads and was chasing my losses??
Well i still reckon 8 buy-ins aint enough , it cant be , but that aside i play far far more looser than dudeskin no question bout that BUT still got through nl4 with ease , playin same level as dude now nl10 and aint altered my game one bit and still doin well , also i dont play more than 2 tables cos i cannot see how ya can play poker properly if ya cant follow ALL of what goes on at a table xxx
Well for me I don't really like playing cash for more than 3 hours at a time (as I start to drift off lol), obviously in MTT's like tonight's DTD you don't have a choice but MTT's are SO much easier as late on it's just shove fold therefore no brain work lol
In your case if that happned to me I'd stand up and say a decent break even session make a note on Excel obvz then go do summit else but if you've got time to spare of course you can keep going.
Hi Don Good luck! IMO I think start with 2 tables given your bankroll. As you know the variances on nl4 can be huge. I've been on Doh's day 20 for a week now (down 8BI's) so am having a break before I lose all my previous gains. Not much of a variance but I am doing very strict BRM as i don't want to deposit again. You'll have to be disciplined. I'm going for a £ amount before I move up. I almost got there before the last week kicked in. Was within a BI but I don't believe it affected my play as mentioned above. I just lost the flips I had been winning and came up against those who didn't let go and hit. I think target setting is fine as long as you are not pushing for it. nl4 can trip you up easily. Just have it in the back of your mind as a point when you will be happy to move up.
Is this going to be pure nl4 or are some MTTs going to sneak in?!
I really think you should deposit more than 8BI if at all possible. Its easy have a -4BI session, and I'm pretty sure I've done 8BI in a single sitting at some stage. If you are prone to tilt playing on a low bankroll is not going to help that problem. People have probably deposited £10 and spun it up, doesnt mean its a good route to go.
Hi Don Good luck! IMO I think start with 2 tables given your bankroll. As you know the variances on nl4 can be huge. I've been on Doh's day 20 for a week now (down 8BI's) so am having a break before I lose all my previous gains. Not much of a variance but I am doing very strict BRM as i don't want to deposit again. You'll have to be disciplined. I'm going for a £ amount before I move up. I almost got there before the last week kicked in. Was within a BI but I don't believe it affected my play as mentioned above. I just lost the flips I had been winning and came up against those who didn't let go and hit. I think target setting is fine as long as you are not pushing for it. nl4 can trip you up easily. Just have it in the back of your mind as a point when you will be happy to move up. Is this going to be pure nl4 or are some MTTs going to sneak in?! Good luck Dave Posted by walesboy
Hey Don see you around in the clinic alot with nl4 problems similar to mine My Bankroll is currently £33.36 so i'll think i'll play nl4 only to for abit of healthy competition for you
I really think you should deposit more than 8BI if at all possible. Its easy have a -4BI session, and I'm pretty sure I've done 8BI in a single sitting at some stage. If you are prone to tilt playing on a low bankroll is not going to help that problem. People have probably deposited £10 and spun it up, doesnt mean its a good route to go. Anyway best of luck Posted by grantorino
I have several times, from £10,£20ish it can be done as long as he dont run too bad obviously
if your gonna do this, don't play UKIPT/GUKPT etc sats. stick to the one thing and grind. Posted by scotty77
GUKPT isnt bothering me. I have a friend whos been staking my UKIPT sats on that other site so hasnt effective me now.
Although Sky roll means just cash atm will be starting tonight will playing the Bigger $11 tournament on another site. I have a few rolls but i cant merge em at the moment as im staked on the other 2
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This helps discipline incase you wanna just keep playing forever if you're getting nasty beats.
It is not the post in itself, but, using asterisks to get around the profanity filter
So I was teaching her on her account last night and I said we'd just play 1 table for 1 hour just to introduce her, tell her about the opening range, bet sizing etc.
Something happened that has never happened to me ever when playing 1 table. We played for 1 hour and literally didn't get one hand that was worth of my standard 20p raise. So essentially we had just folded for 1 hour so our £4 was down to about £3.70 ish just through blinds. Now if this was the case and you said you'd play for 1 hour, would you just walk away with your 30p loss or would you carry on for a bit (it's not like I/we were tilted or anything) so you can actually play some poker?
In the end, we stuck around for another half hour, came across AK off, got up to £5.50 and called it a night (it was about 1am at this point). I was just wondering if you think this is a discipline problem or not because it's not like I carried on playing because I'd lost loads and was chasing my losses??
In your case if that happned to me I'd stand up and say a decent break even session make a note on Excel obvz then go do summit else but if you've got time to spare of course you can keep going.
I'm in the DTD again tonight so I'll see you there. Hopefully I'll see you on the final table again.
Good luck, TPT ftw.
Quality Post JJ deserves to be in Hall of Fame & gl on your goal Don
avoid the fancy play and you are good to go
Good luck!
IMO I think start with 2 tables given your bankroll.
As you know the variances on nl4 can be huge. I've been on Doh's day 20 for a week now (down 8BI's) so am having a break before I lose all my previous gains. Not much of a variance but I am doing very strict BRM as i don't want to deposit again. You'll have to be disciplined.
I'm going for a £ amount before I move up. I almost got there before the last week kicked in. Was within a BI but I don't believe it affected my play as mentioned above. I just lost the flips I had been winning and came up against those who didn't let go and hit. I think target setting is fine as long as you are not pushing for it. nl4 can trip you up easily. Just have it in the back of your mind as a point when you will be happy to move up.
Is this going to be pure nl4 or are some MTTs going to sneak in?!
Good luck
Dave
Anyway best of luck
My Bankroll is currently £33.36 so i'll think i'll play nl4 only to for abit of healthy competition for you
Although Sky roll means just cash atm will be starting tonight will playing the Bigger $11 tournament on another site. I have a few rolls but i cant merge em at the moment as im staked on the other 2