Cheers Geldy, would be interesting to hear your thoughts, but I understand it could open a can of worms.
Maca, I think you've got some crossed wires lol, I'm in the Viva Las Vegas £350 final to win a package and I will be playing it at my mum's house in Liverpool lol but I won't be able to stream it on Twitch cos I won't have my full set up and my mum's internet aint good enough.
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Poker is being pretty rubbish atm, lost pretty much every 70/30 and 80/20 tonight and it's boring updating loads about that stuff so I wont. Few cashes and heads on stars, nothing on 888 and didn't play party.
Sky was much the same although I had one highlight, when I late regged the the £17 VLV sat with about 15 runners left (7 seats) and won a seat/regged £77 in advance and took £77. I was tempted to play the £77 and try and take the £350 instead but at the time I had more than enough tables running. The only other cash of the night was 1 head in the MBI for about £30.
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I think I forgot to mention it on here but I finally got myself a new set up a few days ago. It's been so long overdue, I'd been playing on a laptop which is now 6-7 years old and was just struggling more and more each session, so I finally got myself a desktop (and had to get another monitor as I don't have my laptop monitor now obv)
Since I've got it, everything just runs like a dream, I can play 12+ tables and stream on Twitch annd do various other bits and bobs without the tiniest bit of lag anywhere.
Pretty grim Sunday on stake, another day with pretty much zero cashes. Not much else to say really cos I don't have any runs to discuss (apart from 1). The only 'run' I made was in the $11 Storm, it was the 4th Anniversary of the comp so they guaranteed it at $1mil and guaranteed 1st prize would be $100k+... It got a pretty mental 104,939 runners which I don't think I've ever seen in any comp, and I finished 4290th for $28. It speaks volumes about my night when I say that was the best cash of the night.
Sky wasn't much better, GII good lots n lots, lost lots and lots. I was going well in the Roller then made 2nd nuts v nuts on the river V Rose, she clicked back my river bet, I wanted so badly to fold but didn't have it in me, knew I was never raising, called and was left with about 4500 at 250/500. Spun it back up and it was soon looking like the comp that I needed a score in to save the night. All went well once I got back to a playable stack, played well, faded getting coolered etc, built up a pretty decent stack during the bubble. Long story short, 15 left (we're ITM by now), I 4bet jam AQ, get called by AT and it's gg in almost identical circumstances to my deep run in the £11r sky main the other day with 15 left when I gg'd with AT<A6 aipf
Got £230 which made the night marginally less bad.
Last night was pretty terrible on Sky, pretty much not had a single decent result on Sky since the UKOPS main on 6th April, although I have had a few very small bits and bobs to keep me only a little under break even since that point so it's hardly the biggest downswing ever, in fact, it aint a downswing at all, just a bit meh.
Was another night of bricks on Sky on Monday, where literally the only cashes of the night were 1 head for £3.75 in an £11 BH and 1 head for £18.75 in a £55 BH. I also played the DTD for the first time in ages guesting for one night only under Team Dohh, I got off to decent starts in all 3 but didn't really amount to much.
The staked sides of things was also going in the exact same direction, just not building any stacks anywhere, busting comps as fast as I could reg them etc, then towards the end of the night, I got a double up in the 11r, one of the few comps I had left from the ealry horus of the session, and that put me back in the game, something like 28/40 with 30 paid. Long story short I managed to get HU in it but stacks we're about 350kk v 1.2mil... not great but 1 double and it's game on, then like 2-3 hands into the HU I jam Q5s pre and he snaps with AA. Oh well, a much needed 4 figure score to save the session.
Think I was pretty much break even on Sky, couple of half decent runs but nothing major, got 10th out of 80 in £11bh for about £30, 13th out of a little over 200 in the mini rebuy for £35 and 4th in the MBI out of about 40 for £140, few heads here and there in other comps but pretty much break even for the night.
The staked comps weren't going great, had a few decent runs that didn't amount to much, was going deep ish again in $27KO on stars but lost a pretty huge flip 88<AJ as we were nearing the money and bust out shortly after with $20 of heads. I mincashed a $11 FO on 888 for $15, 24th out of 209 but managed to pull off a session saver in the very last comp of the night. It was the $55KO on 888 and I took it down Not the biggest bink ever but it's always a great feeling to take down an MTT, been getting a lot of 2nd-10th recently too so nice to win one. I got just over $650 in the end for a decent winning session on stake.
There was one HH I wanted to include from the above comp, as a bit of a brag. Not trying to sound like a tw@ but I think it's a pretty easy call if you think the hand through and anyone on stream wil have seen I pretty much snapped, but not often I get to call rivers with Q high.
#Game No : 691189188
***** 888poker Hand History for Game 691189188 *****
We open QJo in the CO which is pretty standard and get called by the BTN and BB. KTTs does give us an OESD but I think we're gonna really struggle to get our cbet through both players very often and it also forces us to fold our equity when raised so I check. The button checksback flop and that's the key to the hand imo, I don't think villian is checking back Kx or Tx on this wet of a flop 3way pretty much ever. Then villian has a very small stab on a offsuit 6 turn, we can still have the best hand here sometimes but either way we're getting a great price on our OESD and (imo) we know he can't have Kx/Tx.
Then river pairs the K making it KTT6K and he bets when he's last to act (so hsa the option to just check to showdown). He never has JJ+ given action pre, he can't have Kx/Tx imo which is the only value hand he can bet and he'd just checkback Ax because there's no need to bet, he won't fold out better and it's a real push to get called by worse. So if he checksback Ax and never has any of the value hands then imo it has to be almost exclusively PPs that have been counterfeited on the river and can only win by betting.
I think there are merits to betting Ax on the river, and you calling with Qx means there can be some thin value if you look for it. A lot of people will check back Ax on the river though, happy to take whats in the middle. Leak?
Couple of nice results on 888 the last few of days. Must be soft over there.
Hey Paul - Nice result on the stake there, well done. Not managed to watch you on twitch tv yet, but wondered if you use a HUD on Stars and if the Stake bods encouraged you to use them or prefer to play without?
Are you better off financially so far with the switch to MTT's from Cash or if not do you think you can get to being better off in the long term?
Cheers Harry, yeah a combination of it being soft and me taking on board some great coaching from Bates about how to choose your own runouts. My personal favourite on that FT was K4s > KK aipf
Cheers Gregster, I do use a HUD yes, HEM2, although just recently got a new comp so I need to set it all up again on there and so haven't used it for the last couple of sessions. The 'stake bods' don't really care whether I do or not, two of the people who run the stable are vvv good players that don't use HUDs.
It's tough to say really with MTTs because there is SO much variance involved it's unreal. I could have won the Big55 last week for $35k and be miles better off than normal or could have ran awful and be much worse off. As it is, I'm about +£2.5k up on Sky this year and nearly +£2.5k on stake (I'm up more but that's about the cut I've actually received) so I'm doing ok but could deffo be better. I started out as a decent solid MTT player but still with a lot of leaks in my game, I feel like I'm already a much better player now than when I started but there's still so much room for me to improve and I'm getting help 3 people that absolutely crush MTTs on all sites to get there, so I think my edge in my current games can only get bigger atm, and of course as time goes on I'll move to some higher stakes games too.
Was feeling pretty gutted earlier (and still am), tonight was the VLV £350 final for a seat, I got off to a pretty great start and had doubled my starting stack within an hour or so from 5k to 10k, then I got it in 5k effective with AK v AT... winning gives me 15k which would be a realllly solid stack with about 23 left, but runout was xxTTT just to rub it in. I 3b jammed A7 into 99 shortly after and it was gg
Gutted it looks like I won't be going to Vegas this year now, but on the bright side, Liamboi did go on to win one of the 5 seats so vwp to played him, hope you enjoy it!
It was the most bizarre satellite bubble I think I've ever seen. Someone has 4xbb, someone has about 11-12xbb, CL has about 90xbb, and yet someone on 35xbb who could probably shut down his computer and still win a seat decides to just start open shoving. In the end it was this that saved Liamboi's bacon because he shoved T8o, the 11-12bb stack called with AA and flop came QJ9 to give liamboi a seat who was on 4xbb.
Discussed that call w/ AA with a few mates, they don't agree but I think AA is a fold in that spot for the guy with 11-12xbb. I just don't think it's worth taking the 20% shot that we bust out when someone has 4xbb. Can't remember the guy's alias, but either way, vv ul to not double and probably lock himself a seat.
Only other comps I played tonight were main which I bricked and mini where I got about £3.50 in heads.
What were other stacks? AA is 85% vs 2 random cards, not 80%. And 22/24bb should be 99.99% guaranteed wheras 11-12bb definitely isn't if there's just one person on 4bb - all it takes is for the 4bb stack to get a few shoves through uncontested or for him to win a double up and for 11bb stack to fold a few orbits for him to end up being shortest stack. Does 11bb have 85% chance of cashing if he folds? I dunno.... seems close.
I think if I call and lose with AA then it wasn't meant to be anyway!!
I watched it and have played both players, nannypat66 (my condolences) with AA in sb and reeler with the 10 8 off. I think it is so close and a perfect example of satelite play that i lean towards the fold. It's a £3k bubble which meant alot for both as im pretty sure they freerolled into it (or got in via £17), so pretty sick spot and liamboi was so short and his big blind was coming round again, with hindsight obviously easier to analyse. Anyways I think Liamboi owes Reeler a dinner in vegas because his bacon was well and truly saved lol
liamboi owes me lol ..yeah i all ined a few times in the final table up to that point i hadnt done anything risky or stupid just played solid poker . then we got to the bubble and i have aa twice in a row and im all in str8 off no messing just dont want any one to call just happy to take the blinds .then a few hands later i get what i thought was ten ten and jammed thinking liamboi is gonna call and every one else is gonna fold . then i see its ten 8 and im like wtf have i done lol im goosed here when i see im called by aa then the flop hits the str8 and i instantly felt sorry for the guy who went out but delighted aswell cause the game was done . and i was arguing with my m8 about folding aa pre flop yes i agree with you lambert its a definte fold pre in that spot .my m8 said no way are u ever folding aa pre and im like yes if were on the bubble and i dont need to get involved yes im folding it . but my m8 is a cash player and cash players will obviously not fold aa and quite right aswell lol
liamboi owes me lol ..yeah i all ined a few times in the final table up to that point i hadnt done anything risky or stupid just played solid poker . then we got to the bubble and i have aa twice in a row and im all in str8 off no messing just dont want any one to call just happy to take the blinds .then a few hands later i get what i thought was ten ten and jammed thinking liamboi is gonna call and every one else is gonna fold . then i see its ten 8 and im like wtf have i done lol im goosed here when i see im called by aa then the flop hits the str8 and i instantly felt sorry for the guy who went out but delighted aswell cause the game was done . and i was arguing with my m8 about folding aa pre flop yes i agree with you lambert its a definte fold pre in that spot .my m8 said no way are u ever folding aa pre and im like yes if were on the bubble and i dont need to get involved yes im folding it . but my m8 is a cash player and cash players will obviously not fold aa and quite right aswell lol Posted by reeler
yeah mate you played well through the sat.
You put me in a few tough spots since we were big stacks all way through to last 8-9 left, I made a few tight folds because didnt want clash with you when they were shorter stacks.
But yeah you defo saved me on the final hand when bust that guys aces, I`m mainly cash player and i think if i`m that guy with myself being that short and blinds coming round I think I fold but whether it`s right or wrong i`m sure they are pros and cons for both decisions.
Yeah I think it's the particular layout of the stacks that make AA a fold. If I recall correctly, with 6 on the bubble it was something like...
4bb
11-12bb
35bb
35bb
35bb
90bb
So if the guy with 11-12bb just refuses to play another pot, you're in reallly bad shape. As Ivan said if you could get a few steals thru then it becomes closer but with those stacks you aint gonna. If u jam cos it's only 4bb and doesn't harm anyone at the table it'll just go call, call, call call, call imo to try and get you out and you'll need to win an AI against everyone who hasn't folded before it got to you. Also Reeler was just jamming every hand so you had no FE there if he is in pot in front fof you and were gonna need to call it off and win vvv soon. But yeh great spot for you Liam, wp and enjoy.
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Lots of updating to do cos aint done one for a few sessions but nothing special to update really...
Played Thursday, few heads on stars, best result was 91/1502 in $27ko for about $60, no cashes on party/888.
Few small results on Sky that night, got £25 of heads in 22bh, 35/356 in 33bh main for £70, 5th in the 9:30pm 11bh for £150, lost big flip for CL AK<JJ to gg, and was low on tables early doors so flicked in the VLV freerolls with the plan to just muck about, try and spin it up and if not, no worries. Did no good in the one for £52 seats but ended up winning a £17 seat and just taking the money.
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Saturday I updated at my mums, that was the VLV final fail
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Monday, no cashes on stars, no cashes on party, and not much on 888... got 37/583 for $40 in the $22 challenge and got $50 of heads in the 55ko.
On Sky, I got 16/313 in main for about £80, about £40 of heads in the 55bh, and I won a £22bh, 1/69 for £356 so about a +£250 night on sky but still not having a great time of it on the stake.
Yeah I think it's the particular layout of the stacks that make AA a fold. If I recall correctly, with 6 on the bubble it was something like... 4bb 11-12bb 35bb 35bb 35bb 90bb So if the guy with 11-12bb just refuses to play another pot, you're in reallly bad shape. As Ivan said if you could get a few steals thru then it becomes closer but with those stacks you aint gonna. If u jam cos it's only 4bb and doesn't harm anyone at the table it'll just go call, call, call call, call imo to try and get you out and you'll need to win an AI against everyone who hasn't folded before it got to you. Also Reeler was just jamming every hand so you had no FE there if he is in pot in front fof you and were gonna need to call it off and win vvv soon. But yeh great spot for you Liam, wp and enjoy. ================= Lots of updating to do cos aint done one for a few sessions but nothing special to update really... Played Thursday, few heads on stars, best result was 91/1502 in $27ko for about $60, no cashes on party/888. Few small results on Sky that night, got £25 of heads in 22bh, 35/356 in 33bh main for £70, 5th in the 9:30pm 11bh for £150, lost big flip for CL AK<JJ to gg, and was low on tables early doors so flicked in the VLV freerolls with the plan to just muck about, try and spin it up and if not, no worries. Did no good in the one for £52 seats but ended up winning a £17 seat and just taking the money. ================= Saturday I updated at my mums, that was the VLV final fail ================= Monday, no cashes on stars, no cashes on party, and not much on 888... got 37/583 for $40 in the $22 challenge and got $50 of heads in the 55ko. On Sky, I got 16/313 in main for about £80, about £40 of heads in the 55bh, and I won a £22bh, 1/69 for £356 so about a +£250 night on sky but still not having a great time of it on the stake. Staked: 216 Sky: 143 Total: 359
Posted by Lambert180
Hi Paul
Congrats on your win in the £22BH. Was watching a lot on Twitch from 8pm to 10pm last night. One question. You folded a lot to 3 bets with small pocket pairs. Dont you think its pofitable to call and try and hit your set or is it better to fold and wait for a more premium hand?
In Response to Re: Lambert180 ----- Lolpro and Onwards ------- : Hi Paul Congrats on your win in the £22BH. Was watching a lot on Twitch from 8pm to 10pm last night. One question. You folded a lot to 3 bets with small pocket pairs. Dont you think its pofitable to call and try and hit your set or is it better to fold and wait for a more premium hand? Darryn Posted by darryn1973
Cheers for watching.
As a general rule, it's not great to be pure setmine facing a 3bet in (the deeper stages of) MTTs. It depends on the PP, not all are equal, i.e. 22-55 we're pretty much just gonna be setmining cos it has little to no post flop playability whereas 88/99 has some postflop playability (as well as the ability to flop sets obv).
We just usually aren't getting the price to setmine facing a 3bet in MTTs because stacks tend to be shallower and the vast majority of people 3bet too big on Sky which really reduces our odds/implied odds. Also in cash games where we can just top up whenever we want, it's fine to take every spot pre if it's gonna be +EV but in an MTT when chips are valuable, it may be more worth our while to save ourselves those 6xBB and maintain the same level of play in our stack (i.e. we can still raise/fold, 3bet/fold etc) rather than taking a small +EV spot of set mining that's gonna leave us in bad shape/needing to GII soon when we have to fold flop like 85% of the time.
That's my thoughts on it anyway, I make lots of mistakes every session so I'm more than happy to be told I'm wrong.
Couple of decent results tonight on Sky but still nothing going on with the stake at all. Getting pretty frustrating now but at least it's good I got Sky as my back up to make some £££ of my own.
Best result of the night was finishing 59th out of 1456 int he 27 turbo ko on stars for about $90... I swear I'm going to win that one day soon!
On sky, got a few heads here and there, main and mini were both pretty grim, so many good spots early to get a double (double) stack and couldn't hold, was in for £55 and £27.50 respectively and didn't threaten to cash either. I FT bubbled the 9pm £55BH, for £1800, and FT'd the £22BH (10:15pm one) finished 3rd for £157.
Was pretty gutting in the MBI, there was about 20 left and Solly jams 10xBB on the BTN, I've just about got him covered and have got AQ in the BB so loving life but he manages to show up with AK. We get left with something like 700 chips at 400/800 and we're in the SB next hand lol, then we go on an epic spin up, get ourselves back up to a playable like 10xBB stack, and eventually we are 5/7 on the FT (and money) bubble with about 21k at 1k/2k when we ship 88 3handed and get snapped by AA to end up bubbling anyway after all that drama.
I didn't play last night in the end, the first planned session that I've missed for weeks now, I had a doctor's appointment that I got back from a little later than I'd have preferred, had dinner later than normal etc then ended up falling asleep on the couch.
The doctor's appointment was just speaking to the nurse about stopping smoking btw. Anyone who has followed this diary will know I've quit probably 3-4 during the course of this diary but this is gonna be the last time! I got these pills from her that apparently make smoking taste completely vile (much more so than normal) and they don't contain nicotine which is a plus. I'm very confident I'm gonna kick it once and for all this time.
Super quick summary of April... Stake went pretty rubbish, didn't chop profits once in the whole of April, a few binks throughout the month has meant my MU aint that big but yeh need to start chalking up some results off sky. Sky went a bit better, got off to a cracking start off with 2nd in the UKOPS main, then pretty dull since, small ups and downs, finished about +£1.3k for the month so decent.
It's date night for me tonight, me and Emma going for a meal and then gonna watch that film Unfriended so no poker tonight but then I'll be back for a Sat/Sun grind (so I'll be back on Twitch tomorrow).
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I think there are merits to betting Ax on the river, and you calling with Qx means there can be some thin value if you look for it. A lot of people will check back Ax on the river though, happy to take whats in the middle. Leak?
Couple of nice results on 888 the last few of days. Must be soft over there.
Are you better off financially so far with the switch to MTT's from Cash or if not do you think you can get to being better off in the long term?
Cheers
Greg.
Gutted it looks like I won't be going to Vegas this year now, but on the bright side, Liamboi did go on to win one of the 5 seats so vwp to played him, hope you enjoy it!
And good shout about the smoking, think about the money you'll save:)