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Lambert180 ----- Life After The Grind -------

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  • iGoWaWaiGoWaWa Member Posts: 105
    edited November 2013
    In Response to Re: Lambert180 ----- Lolpro and Onwards:
    Rubbish morning, got absolutely butchered at HU SnGs, just could not win a hand or a race to save my life and went 8-0 down at the start, managed to get it back to 8-3 to limit the losses a little. Cash didn't go much better, but pretty much every big losing pot was a cooler or outdraw so that's positive. Finished abuot -£40. The one ray of sunshine was that I played the £3.30 BH this morning.... don't even know why I play it tbh because the payouts are SO small, but I don't like playing the £5 BHs which have tiny fields in comparison so equally small prizepools and 15% rake. I got my first FT in I dunno how long, only a small cash but a FT is a FT.  It got 89 runners fwiw Lambert180 0 4 £12.35 + £9.11 Head Prizes 7  
    Posted by Lambert180

    See you tomoz in the £240 Satty final i guees.....£1k seat needed!!!
  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited November 2013
    Cheers Ivan.

    See you there Dann.

    So over the last 2 days I've won 2 x £110 tokens from the DTD freerolls for the UKPC/UKIPT megasats, plus I'm playing the £240 UKPC tonight so that's 3 shots I've got at a £1k seat. Dream scenario is obv win all 3 and I'd play UKIPT and UKPC and take £1.1k cash but let's just see what happens lol.

    Just about to kick off UKPC final now. GL me!!!
  • iGoWaWaiGoWaWa Member Posts: 105
    edited November 2013
    In Response to Re: Lambert180 ----- Lolpro and Onwards:
    Cheers Ivan. See you there Dann. So over the last 2 days I've won 2 x £110 tokens from the DTD freerolls for the UKPC/UKIPT megasats, plus I'm playing the £240 UKPC tonight so that's 3 shots I've got at a £1k seat. Dream scenario is obv win all 3 and I'd play UKIPT and UKPC and take £1.1k cash but let's just see what happens lol. Just about to kick off UKPC final now. GL me!!!
    Posted by Lambert180
    Yea sorry about that.

    I am in the £100 on DTD and the Sky one, so lets see if i can run golden :)
  • MP33MP33 Member Posts: 6,306
    edited November 2013
    In Response to Re: Lambert180 ----- Lolpro and Onwards:
    Cheers Ivan. See you there Dann. So over the last 2 days I've won 2 x £110 tokens from the DTD freerolls for the UKPC/UKIPT megasats, plus I'm playing the £240 UKPC tonight so that's 3 shots I've got at a £1k seat. Dream scenario is obv win all 3 and I'd play UKIPT and UKPC and take £1.1k cash but let's just see what happens lol. Just about to kick off UKPC final now. GL me!!!
    Posted by Lambert180
    Thats some going - GL

    EDIT _ Ul _ Not sure what happened in the £500K Final satelite  but thats some line up of players to get through
  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited November 2013
    I got it in pre KK v AK against IgoWeeWee and lost, hence the apology lol.

    Meh what ya gonna do.
  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited November 2013
    Ok so I said before discussing a little MTT goal, I'd get the UKPC Final out the way as it'd give a big swing one way or the other on my SS. Well it's out the way now and unfortunately it was a swing the wrong way so it shows as -£240 on my SS

    Just scoped myself this morning (MTTs only) and these are the results...

    Lambert180
    SkyPoker
    SCHEDULED 656
    £1.05
    £5.13
    101%
    £690
    74

    656
    £1.05
    £5.13
    101%
    £690
    74

    EDIT: ^^^ As it didn't fit on 1 line

    EDIT2: Sigh it's just not having it...

    Lambert180
    Games: 656
    Avg Profit: £1.05
    Avg Stake: £5.13
    Avg ROI: 101%
    Profit: £690
    Rating: 74

    And here's the graph if you're interested

    So my stats are ok.. my ROI is very good imo but the vast majority of my games have been micro stakes so profit is pretty low. I've never really put any serious volume in at MTTs, as you can see 656 games in my whole time (4-5 years) on Sky and probably 300 of them are satellites.

    I've decided my aim is to get my total profit to £1.5k by the end of the year, I know you shouldn't set £££ targets blah blah and especially in MTTs where variance is insane but it's only a bit of fun, if I don't make it, I don't make it.

    So that's £810 profit by 31st December which considering my current average profit of £1.05 would mean (in theory) I'd need to play 771 MTTs lol so more in 6 weeks than I have in the last 4-5 years, but I'm playing more £11s, MEs, UKPC sats, sats for £55 BH etc now when I never have in the past so my average profit per game from that sample isn't really relevant.

    P.S. I'm still trying to get into UKPC on the cheap and even if/when I do, I'm gonna continue to play for additional seats so 1 seat would near enough get me over the line if I was BE on all other games I'd played.

    ===================================================================

    Target                        :  £1.5k profit
    Current                      :  £690 profit
    Amount left to go      :  £810
  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,947
    edited November 2013
    FWIW

    I don't think you should apply profit to goals, think you'll be more suited to setting a volume to acheive in MTT's.

    Having your goals set around number of cash hands or MTT games is a far better goal.

    So many people focus on the £'s. Results will come if you making the right decisions and volume goals = acheivable.

    Your setting yourself £ targets that may seem acheivable but it doesn't mean varaince will agree.
    If you fail you target then does it mean you have failed at poker ?

    No it doesn't you may have played your best poker ever.


    Forget about the money

    keep the big £ dream alive but don't focus everything on results.


    good luck


  • chicknMeltchicknMelt Member Posts: 1,159
    edited November 2013
    best of luck in the MTTs! dont think I have met you on the tables just yet?

    if you bink one early on are you going to keep grinding them? 700 tourneys by new yr will be tough, but doable!
  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited November 2013
    That's why I said it's only a bit of fun. If I fail the target no I haven't failed at poker. More so than any game, I know in MTTs, I could easily just do rubbish at MTTs for 6 weeks and play perfectly.

    Maybe goal is the wrong word then I guess, really it's just me saying 'I'm gonna start playing alot more MTTs than I normally do and I'm gonna track the progress of them all in here'.

    I could smash the target by winning the Primo next week, I could do an epic fail, doesn't really matter. I'm obv just playing to try and win as much £££ as possible as always, just playing more MTTs than normal and tracking it here with a running total
  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited November 2013
    In Response to Re: Lambert180 ----- Lolpro and Onwards:
    best of luck in the MTTs! dont think I have met you on the tables just yet? if you bink one early on are you going to keep grinding them? 700 tourneys by new yr will be tough, but doable!
    Posted by chicknMelt
    The 700 MTTs was a bit of a joke lol, that's at my current average profit per game but that's cos like probably 80% of my games have been like £1 and £2 games from years ago. Also I'm ten times better now than I was years ago when the majority of my MTT volume was played.

    Yeh think first time I saw you was in the £52 UKPC where I won my seat to the £240.

    Yeah regardless of any binks or w/e I'll still be grinding on till the end of the year. I mean I grind all the time now anyway obv but this is just spending more time doing it on MTTs so will continue the increased MTT volume til xmas while still playing plenty of cash obv.
  • scotty77scotty77 Member Posts: 4,970
    edited November 2013
    Haven't grinded the low stakes MTTs since the TSP promotion.  I was terrible then and still managed to crush.

    I'd say play pretty much every MTT in the day and you'll reach your go no problem.  From memory the £5.50 standard freezeouts where one of my fav.  Think they ran at 3/4/5pm etc?
  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,947
    edited November 2013
    yh just put the volume in and you should smash em

    if you don't then you just useless and you should think about giving up :D




  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited November 2013
    As you know, I tried grinding the daytime mtts on here in November as part of my 1 month challenge.

    I dropped $300 @ £5 & 11 buyins.

    gl ;)
  • GaryQQQGaryQQQ Member Posts: 6,804
    edited November 2013
    Average ROI is a silly stat that should always be ignored.

    If your average is £1.05 profit from a £5.13 buy-in clearly you're not making 100%.

    To get the real figure click on the 'statistics' tab, its near the bottom of the left hand column, look for 'total ROI'.

    Good luck.
  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,817
    edited November 2013
    In Response to Re: Lambert180 ----- Lolpro and Onwards:
    Haven't grinded the low stakes MTTs since the TSP promotion.  I was terrible then and still managed to crush. I'd say play pretty much every MTT in the day and you'll reach your go no problem.  From memory the £5.50 standard freezeouts where one of my fav.  Think they ran at 3/4/5pm etc?
    Posted by scotty77
    i think most of these have disappeared from the schedule or had the guarentees reduced by so much 3 cash on a normal basis. 

    The half past bhs i think are the best value on sky currently
  • GaryQQQGaryQQQ Member Posts: 6,804
    edited November 2013
    In Response to Re: Lambert180 ----- Lolpro and Onwards:
    In Response to Re: Lambert180 ----- Lolpro and Onwards : i think most of these have disappeared from the schedule or had the guarentees reduced by so much 3 cash on a normal basis.  The half past bhs i think are the best value on sky currently
    Posted by The_Don90
    Correct. It followed a familiar pattern; 

    A vocal group on the forum kept demanding more afternoons freezeouts and fewer Bounty Hunters.
    Sky bowed to the pressure and added three daily freezeouts, each £200 gtd for £5.50 iirc.
    As is often the case it turned out that small forum groups don't neccesarily speak for the general player pool.
    The freezeouts weren't supported and often ran with overlay.
    Survival of the fittest, the freezeouts have gone, the Bounty Hunters have thrived.

    As Don says the Bounty Hunters are good value, despite the 15% rake.
  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited November 2013
    FWIW, I never said I was just playing daytime stuff. Obv I'm playing some of them too and will be grinding whatever UKPC stuff is on in the mornings (as normal), but I'm gonna be playing alot more of the night time MTTs that are much better fields/prizepools/value.

    Not a big fan of the daytime £5 BHs to be honest cos the field size is in that middle ground which don't suit BHs imo. i.e. still a substantial amount of PP is gone, but the money up top is rubbish. From what I've seen they seem to get around 30ish runners with 1st prize being something like £40 prebounties... seems like very small returns considering obv you aint gonna win it that often.

    Agree though Gary Average ROI is pretty useless, just checked and my total ROI is 18.4% ... that's still good, right?

    If anyone cares or can dechiper anything from the stats below...
    • Middle/Late (20%)
      20.1%
    • First Game Date: 02/23/2010 11:18 PM
    • ITM%
      23.9%
    • Last Game Date: 11/17/2013 09:15 PM
    • Total Losing Days: 173
    • Max Cashing Streak: 4
    • Max Losing Streak: 24
    • Max Winning Streak: 2
    • Most Games / Day: 15
    • PokerStars Tournament Leaderboard Points: 5,611
    • Av % Field Beaten
      52.7%
    • Total Rake
      £335
    • Total Stake: £3,362
    • Total ROI
      18.4%
    • Wins: 27
    • Turbo Ratio
      5.6%
    • Total Winning Days: 63
    • Worst 100 Streak Av Profit
      -£3.27
    • Worst 500 Streak Av Profit
      £0.26
    • Count: 656
    • Av Profit
      £1.05
    • Av Stake: £5.13
    • Av ROI
      101%
    • Profit
      £690
    • Ability: 74
    • Active Days: 278
    • Av Entrants: 165
    • Av Games / Day (when playing): 2.4
    • Best 100 Streak Av Profit
      £7.28
    • Best 500 Streak Av Profit
      £2.24
    • Total Break Even Days: 42
    • Total Cashes
      £4,387
    • Early Finishes (10%)
      10.2%
    • Early/Middle Finishes (20%)
      18.9%
    • Late Finishes (10%)
      12.3%
    • Middle Finishes (40%)
      38.4%
  • GaryQQQGaryQQQ Member Posts: 6,804
    edited November 2013
    Yep, 18.4% is good, far more than you could ever make from any form of STT.

    Mine shows as 54.9%. Some MTT sharks will have a much higher number than that, I haven't looked at any, but I wouldn't be suprised if some guys are in the 75% to 100% range, maybe even higher.
  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    edited November 2013
    Some of us struggled to get out of minus ROI despite winning 2 Main Events! ;)

    Might see more of you Paul on the tables, just remember I always have it yeah.
  • DiminuendoDiminuendo Member Posts: 222
    edited November 2013
    Dont worry about chasing profit goals etc etc mate

    Dont even worry about ss graphs

    Just keep doing the right things at the right times and everything else will look after itself

    Good luck
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