had a fairly quiet day today with the action not really starting until late in the evening I did have some connection problems when I first started playing today which didn't help. what I did try today was I went onto an action table rather than a 5th nl4p table and things on that one went quite well for me with profits of £2 and £8.78 from my two periods on them. overall my table losses added up to £29.98 while the profits were £34.03 my Bankroll is now £157.41 my hand history today was losses £4.15 £3-£4 3 hands £3-£2 3 hands £2-£1 6 hands profits were £6.79 £3-£4 3 hands £2-£3 4 hands £1-£2 16 hands one hand which I might have been a bit too cowardly with was this I probably should have just jammed it on the flop as the villain with a big stack was quite a loose aggressive villain
john343
Small blind
£0.05
£0.05
£8.56
dale1965
Big blind
£0.05
£0.10
£3.77
Your hole cards
K
K
DIGGERS12
Call
£0.05
£0.15
£2.98
x
Raise
£0.25
£0.40
£11.77
craigcu12
Raise
£1.05
£1.45
£5.74
bowler45
Fold
john343
Fold
dale1965
Call
£1.00
£2.45
£2.77
DIGGERS12
Fold
carlos2013
Call
£0.80
£3.25
£10.97
Flop
5
9
Q
dale1965
Check
x
Bet
£1.20
£4.45
£9.77
craigcu12
Call
£1.20
£5.65
£4.54
dale1965
Call
£1.20
£6.85
£1.57
Turn
4
dale1965
Check
x
Bet
£3.05
£9.90
£6.72
craigcu12
Fold
dale1965
All-in
£1.57
£11.47
£0.00
x
Unmatched bet
£1.48
£9.99
£8.20
dale1965
Show
Q
J
x
Show
Q
8
River
5
dale1965
Win
Two Pairs, Queens and 5s
£9.24
£9.24
things did work out well for me later on when I faced this villain lucky for me I hit a FH on the turn and knowing how aggressive he was I trapped him
well i think i was too tired to play much today. i did have 3 quick session but small amount of time compared to most overall i lost £1.08 my bankroll is £156.33 and the hand history was losses £4.49 £3.05 £2-33 3 hands £1.15 the profits were £4.23 £2.57 £2.01 £1-£2 3 hands just tought i'd say Larson although most villians would call knowing that their is just a bit money left i have seen a couple of times when villians still fold a on the river just because the flush has now come.
well today didn't go as well for me overall loosing £3.04 but what i did do good on was the action table i played on with one getting me a profit of 10.88. my bankroll itself finished at £149.07 my hand history today was losses £9.44 £3-£4 4 hands £3.88 £3.08 £2-£3 4 hands £1-£2 17 hands my profits were £4-£5 3 hands £3-£4 6 hands £2-£3 7 hands £1-£2 14 hands my unluckiest hand was probably this
hand above. why are you checking that flop? its a wet flop and we have a monster. its also likely to cnnect to a lot of limp calling hands so charge them here and dont give free cards for you to go behind to.
i also think the KK from a few posts ago is a ship on the flop when youve been donked into
hand above. why are you checking that flop? its a wet flop and we have a monster. its also likely to cnnect to a lot of limp calling hands so charge them here and dont give free cards for you to go behind to. i also think the KK from a few posts ago is a ship on the flop when youve been donked into Posted by TINTIN
i didn't want to click check i was meant to click a 3/4 or full pot sized bet. and with that KK the call on the flop was the reason for me calling myself a coward because i should have just shipped it.
things today went very well. the total winnings today was proably my biggest yet with a total of 60.25 the losses total was -34.68 and so overall I made a profit of 25.67 on one table I got a profit of 13.37 which is rare for the action tables and nl4p tables. my bankroll is now £173.64
the HH was this profits £10.77 £6.26 £5.41 £4.94 £4.73 £3-£4 5 hands £2-£3 4 hands £1-£2 12 hands losses were £3.24 £2-£3 5 hands £2-£1 10 hands
the reason for 10.77 was not AAvKKvQQ it was thanks to a villain who jammed with his flush draw while I had two pair
y
Small blind
£0.05
£0.05
£4.83
layla1975
Big blind
£0.05
£0.10
£7.49
Your hole cards
A
Q
craigcu12
Raise
£0.25
£0.35
£7.55
x
Call
£0.25
£0.60
£6.79
stokefc
Fold
y
Call
£0.20
£0.80
£4.63
layla1975
Call
£0.20
£1.00
£7.29
Flop
A
4
Q
y
Check
layla1975
Check
craigcu12
Bet
£0.75
£1.75
£6.80
x
Call
£0.75
£2.50
£6.04
y
All-in
£4.63
£7.13
£0.00
layla1975
Fold
craigcu12
All-in
£6.80
£13.93
£0.00
x
All-in
£6.04
£19.97
£0.00
craigcu12
Unmatched bet
£0.76
£19.21
£0.76
y
Show
9
6
craigcu12
Show
A
Q
x
Show
J
K
Turn
9
River
A
craigcu12
Win
Full House, Aces and Queens
£17.81
£18.57
the set I asked about in the clinic might have been a hard decision but just because of a flush coming no way would I fold this one
Hey Craig, nice profit for the day- bankroll is coming along really well now, good to see the two pair hold bet it was a bit of a sweat even with less heart outs because they both held the draw.
things today start of quietly on the tables with not much action at all but then in my final session at 10:30 the action started meaning I was needing to be much more careful with cbets and bluffs. the outcome from the cash tables overall today was winnigs totalling £33.30 from 14 nl4p tables and 1 5p action table. biggest from one table alone £6.40 the losses totalled -31.93 from 11nl4p and 3 5paction tables the biggest loss from a table was 9.90
so I finished with profit of 1.67. which put my bankroll now £175.31 the HH itself was winnings or £3.44 £3.41 £3.34 £2-£3 5 hands £1-£2 12 hands the losses were £6.86 £3.73 £3.70 £3.16 £2.16 £1-£2 6 hands my fold of the day was this. I called the min raise wanting to see what the 4p would do then when I saw him reraise I then decided to raise my own flush just to see for sure if he has a strong flush himself that he tried to hide with the 4p bet.
Good fold with the flush but can't believe you checked the flop with an 8 high flush to begin with. If its me I don't want to give anyone drawing to a higher flush a free card
I really think you are getting an idea of how to play the winning hands, it is just the other half of your game you need to work on. If you wanted to post the ten biggest losing hands of the session I would look over them, as this is the bit stopping you become a £10-20 a day winner imo.
Great progress. I really think you are getting an idea of how to play the winning hands, it is just the other half of your game you need to work on. If you wanted to post the ten biggest losing hands of the session I would look over them, as this is the bit stopping you become a £10-20 a day winner imo. Posted by calcalfold
the biggest loosing hands were not caused by what you might think here were my 6 biggest ones yesterday. 6.86
craigcu12
Small blind
£0.05
£0.05
£6.81
lozelle05
Big blind
£0.05
£0.10
£15.15
Your hole cards
Q
Q
dragon22
Fold
Glorf1ndel
Fold
craigcu12
Raise
£0.20
£0.30
£6.61
lozelle05
Raise
£1.00
£1.30
£14.15
craigcu12
Raise
£4.00
£5.30
£2.61
lozelle05
Raise
£6.40
£11.70
£7.75
craigcu12
All-in
£2.61
£14.31
£0.00
lozelle05
Unmatched bet
£0.59
£13.72
£8.34
craigcu12
Show
Q
Q
lozelle05
Show
K
K
3.73 he was playing like a maniac.
x
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£0.02
£0.02
£8.13
Bennmannn
Big blind
£0.04
£0.06
£6.41
Your hole cards
K
J
TINTIN
Call
£0.04
£0.10
£3.84
marley13
Call
£0.04
£0.14
£3.65
calcalfold
Fold
craigcu12
Call
£0.04
£0.18
£3.69
x
Raise
£0.06
£0.24
£8.07
Bennmannn
Call
£0.04
£0.28
£6.37
TINTIN
Call
£0.04
£0.32
£3.80
marley13
Call
£0.04
£0.36
£3.61
craigcu12
Call
£0.04
£0.40
£3.65
Flop
4
K
10
x
Bet
£0.40
£0.80
£7.67
Bennmannn
Fold
TINTIN
Fold
marley13
Fold
craigcu12
Raise
£1.00
£1.80
£2.65
x
All-in
£7.67
£9.47
£0.00
craigcu12
All-in
£2.65
£12.12
£0.00
x
Unmatched bet
£4.42
£7.70
£4.42
x
Show
K
A
craigcu12
Show
K
J
same villain as above and I saw him do it with 88 so again was worth the call
craigcu12
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£0.02
£0.02
£3.68
x
Big blind
£0.04
£0.06
£6.19
Your hole cards
9
9
Bennmannn
Call
£0.04
£0.10
£2.09
TINTIN
Fold
BigStax85
Fold
craigcu12
Raise
£0.18
£0.28
£3.50
x
All-in
£6.19
£6.47
£0.00
Bennmannn
Fold
craigcu12
All-in
£3.50
£9.97
£0.00
x
Unmatched bet
£2.53
£7.44
£2.53
craigcu12
Show
9
9
x
Show
Q
K
Flop
A
A
J
Turn
5
River
Q
x
Win
Two Pairs, Aces and Queens
£6.88
£9.41
this loss of 3.16 was the biggest loss I had due to bad play I should have did a bet on the turn the value bet the river
ARTISAN14
Small blind
£0.02
£0.02
£10.72
billy974
Big blind
£0.04
£0.06
£3.97
Your hole cards
A
Q
craigcu12
Raise
£0.20
£0.26
£3.46
toddy23
Call
£0.20
£0.46
£3.61
zak631
Call
£0.20
£0.66
£2.96
ARTISAN14
Fold
billy974
Call
£0.16
£0.82
£3.81
Flop
6
J
10
billy974
Check
craigcu12
Check
toddy23
Bet
£0.04
£0.86
£3.57
zak631
Raise
£0.08
£0.94
£2.88
billy974
Fold
craigcu12
Call
£0.08
£1.02
£3.38
toddy23
Call
£0.04
£1.06
£3.53
Turn
A
craigcu12
Check
toddy23
Check
zak631
Bet
£0.12
£1.18
£2.76
craigcu12
Call
£0.12
£1.30
£3.26
toddy23
Fold
River
5
craigcu12
Check
zak631
All-in
£2.76
£4.06
£0.00
craigcu12
Call
£2.76
£6.82
£0.50
craigcu12
Show
A
Q
zak631
Show
K
Q
zak631
Win
Straight to the Ace
£6.30
£6.30
2.16 well it was heads up any pair is good.
craigcu12
Small blind
£0.02
£0.02
£3.21
ARTISAN14
Big blind
£0.04
£0.06
£7.82
Your hole cards
7
A
craigcu12
Raise
£0.10
£0.16
£3.11
ARTISAN14
Call
£0.08
£0.24
£7.74
Flop
K
7
3
ARTISAN14
Bet
£0.24
£0.48
£7.50
craigcu12
Call
£0.24
£0.72
£2.87
Turn
8
ARTISAN14
Bet
£0.36
£1.08
£7.14
craigcu12
Raise
£0.72
£1.80
£2.15
ARTISAN14
Call
£0.36
£2.16
£6.78
River
8
ARTISAN14
Check
craigcu12
Bet
£1.08
£3.24
£1.07
ARTISAN14
Call
£1.08
£4.32
£5.70
craigcu12
Show
7
A
ARTISAN14
Show
K
10
ARTISAN14
Win
Two Pairs, Kings and 8s
£3.99
£9.69
what I am starting to do quite often now is just check the river if the card is not blank and I am in position because all I can see happening is the villain will check want to check raise or check fold.
The straight one I would not have gone all in. Top pair from my short experience often lose to strights. Also a two pair is bearing you. Guys in dealer chip so could even have jack ten, and ace king again both of which are beating you. He could have even had a set., pocket jacks, tens and 6's were also prob in his calling range.
As for the ace 7 hand I often fold small blind on auto. The way I see it if you want pure heads up id go to a heads up table but other than that id stick to ABC and premium hands only in the small blinds. Remember he has postion on you. Unless the guy doesn't defend his blinds, then you can raise to pick up easy pots with marginal hands.
The last hand you were bloomin ul. He was calling your pot size bets and just hit.
Fold, or possibly call, but probably fold. Unless you have notes that say they do it with mid pps
Hand 2.
If your entering that on the button do it with a raise Why raise the flop? call to pot control, yes, even against a maniac, by raising you just fold out all of the hands you beat.
Hand 3.
Easy fold
You are way behind or flipping at best, rake means flipping is -ve
Hand 4.
Easy fold, you are at the river and only have one pair. One pair is only one rank up from highest card.
Hand 5.
I would be inclinded to fold the flop, and it would be a cold day in **** before I did that on the turn
Hand 6.
Nothing wrong whatsoever. I would have done exactly the same.
I would say out of these 6 hands, 5 of the losses were very much preventable, if you just take a bit more time to think about them.
I have said it before, but google "levels of poker thought" it is an essential read for any poker player. It will be the first search result and be on the poker bank website.
Interested to hear what Tintin makes of of those hands.
I think just in addition, and to summarise how to beat 4nl, just dont bother getting into marginal situations, there are so many better spots to play.
dont know what difference it will make but here you go calcalfold.
hand 1. meh i prob put it in pre unless i know that they only 3bet better. i can fold to some here but only after seeing them do this and show aces or kings all the time.
hand 2. i am NOT raising this flop with so many players in. i will call the flop because we have hit a decent part of it and i will pot control and evaluate the turn. it is a pot bet after all and usually signals strength into so many but we are realistically beating K9. as played its an easy fold once shoved on.
hand 3. i can let go once the opponent shoves. 99 is a bit weak and ever more likely racing at best. can find a better spot against the villain even if you have seen them do this with 88 before tho if im in a gambling mood i will take it on here like you did
hand 4. i am fine with flop n turn with it being multi way but river an easy fold
hand 5. im not even half decent heads up so this could carry no weight. dont really like raising the turn and i defo dont bet the river after my turn raise is called purely because we have some showdown value but i suck at heads up.
hand 6. once again flop is fine by me. the turn i set them in because they have only a pot bet behind them. as played i set them in or check depending on my mood. the J isnt the worst card that could come as it negates other 2 pair with an ace
then again ive been a bit of a fish of late making plenty of mistakes myself. do as i say not as i do sums it up about right as im not taking my own advice at the minute
calcalford hand one was QQ the 3rd best hand preflop I open up the raise and it could be 66+ K10s+ KQo+ AJo+ so when he does the first reraise he would have a much wider range than KK or AA he might of had AQo+ KQs+ 1010+ then I do another raise and that6 itself should have been the jam and just shrugged my shoulders if he had KK or AA. if I want villians to call when I jam preflop then I need to have more than just KK and AA in my range.
hand 2 the reason I didn't raise preflop was because I would be left in a tough spot if he jammed knowing he does it with weak hands such as 88.
hand 3 that villain who jammed was the maniac I describe from hand two I had already seem him jam with 88 and other poor hands preflop so 99 could so often have been ahead.
Hand 4 and 5 were the two I take the blame for although with the heads up I do find it more easier to bluff most villians but this occasion the villain probably knew what he was doing.
We will just have to disagree on that one then, I dont think either of us are wrong in this instance. Its just risk aversion differing between us.
However, all of your above points (specifically expected ranges) are assuming that villain actually uses their brain, this isnt always the case, in fact its rarely the case, bar about 5regs
"66+ K10s+ KQo+ AJo+" You are in the worst position, I certianly would not say that should be a standard list for 5xbb raising in the small blind, I will not reveal what my range is, but suffice to say it will be a lot narrower when I raise 20p in sb.
Plus, their raise to £1.00 looks so strong and obv, I think you have shipped over the top of this as you are unsure how to proceed if you call. As imo, logically they are only going to £1 with AA,KK or AKs (maaaaybe), JJ/TT are generally going to call or raise to about 50p imo
I dont hate the re shove all in, I just wouldnt have done it myself, thats all.
Oh and Tintin, you are my reference point at 4nl. I have only ever seen one aspect of your game that I would consider exploitable. You are the best 4nl player by a country mile. I and like to see how aligned my thought process is.
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had a fairly quiet day today with the action not really starting until late in the evening I did have some connection problems when I first started playing today which didn't help.
what I did try today was I went onto an action table rather than a 5th nl4p table and things on that one went quite well for me with profits of £2 and £8.78 from my two periods on them.
overall my table losses added up to £29.98 while the profits were £34.03 my Bankroll is now £157.41
my hand history today was
losses
£4.15
£3-£4 3 hands
£3-£2 3 hands
£2-£1 6 hands
profits were
£6.79
£3-£4 3 hands
£2-£3 4 hands
£1-£2 16 hands
one hand which I might have been a bit too cowardly with was this I probably should have just jammed it on the flop as the villain with a big stack was quite a loose aggressive villain
Nice hand, and good increase in bankroll over the last couple of days, well done mate.
and the hand history was
losses
£4.49
£3.05
£2-33 3 hands
£1.15
the profits were
£4.23
£2.57
£2.01
£1-£2 3 hands
just tought i'd say Larson although most villians would call knowing that their is just a bit money left i have seen a couple of times when villians still fold a on the river just because the flush has now come.
my hand history today was
losses
£9.44
£3-£4 4 hands
£3.88 £3.08
£2-£3 4 hands
£1-£2 17 hands
my profits were
£4-£5 3 hands
£3-£4 6 hands
£2-£3 7 hands
£1-£2 14 hands
my unluckiest hand was probably this
i also think the KK from a few posts ago is a ship on the flop when youve been donked into
and with that KK the call on the flop was the reason for me calling myself a coward because i should have just shipped it.
my bankroll is now £173.64
the HH was this
profits
£10.77
£6.26
£5.41
£4.94 £4.73
£3-£4 5 hands
£2-£3 4 hands
£1-£2 12 hands
losses were
£3.24
£2-£3 5 hands
£2-£1 10 hands
the reason for 10.77 was not AAvKKvQQ
it was thanks to a villain who jammed with his flush draw while I had two pair
That was some hand i had when you were at the table earlier, all in on the Turn, Set over Set, he hits quads to give me a full house!
the outcome from the cash tables overall today was
winnigs totalling £33.30 from 14 nl4p tables and 1 5p action table. biggest from one table alone £6.40
the losses totalled -31.93 from 11nl4p and 3 5paction tables the biggest loss from a table was 9.90
so I finished with profit of 1.67. which put my bankroll now £175.31
the HH itself was
winnings or
£3.44 £3.41 £3.34
£2-£3 5 hands
£1-£2 12 hands
the losses were
£6.86
£3.73 £3.70 £3.16
£2.16
£1-£2 6 hands
my fold of the day was this. I called the min raise wanting to see what the 4p would do then when I saw him reraise I then decided to raise my own flush just to see for sure if he has a strong flush himself that he tried to hide with the 4p bet.
I really think you are getting an idea of how to play the winning hands, it is just the other half of your game you need to work on. If you wanted to post the ten biggest losing hands of the session I would look over them, as this is the bit stopping you become a £10-20 a day winner imo.
6.86
As for the ace 7 hand I often fold small blind on auto. The way I see it if you want pure heads up id go to a heads up table but other than that id stick to ABC and premium hands only in the small blinds. Remember he has postion on you. Unless the guy doesn't defend his blinds, then you can raise to pick up easy pots with marginal hands.
The last hand you were bloomin ul. He was calling your pot size bets and just hit.
All imho
Hand 1.
Fold, or possibly call, but probably fold. Unless you have notes that say they do it with mid pps
Hand 2.
If your entering that on the button do it with a raise
Why raise the flop? call to pot control, yes, even against a maniac, by raising you just fold out all of the hands you beat.
Hand 3.
Easy fold
You are way behind or flipping at best, rake means flipping is -ve
Hand 4.
Easy fold, you are at the river and only have one pair. One pair is only one rank up from highest card.
Hand 5.
I would be inclinded to fold the flop, and it would be a cold day in **** before I did that on the turn
Hand 6.
Nothing wrong whatsoever. I would have done exactly the same.
I would say out of these 6 hands, 5 of the losses were very much preventable, if you just take a bit more time to think about them.
I have said it before, but google "levels of poker thought" it is an essential read for any poker player. It will be the first search result and be on the poker bank website.
Interested to hear what Tintin makes of of those hands.
I think just in addition, and to summarise how to beat 4nl, just dont bother getting into marginal situations, there are so many better spots to play.
hand 1. meh i prob put it in pre unless i know that they only 3bet better. i can fold to some here but only after seeing them do this and show aces or kings all the time.
hand 2. i am NOT raising this flop with so many players in. i will call the flop because we have hit a decent part of it and i will pot control and evaluate the turn. it is a pot bet after all and usually signals strength into so many but we are realistically beating K9. as played its an easy fold once shoved on.
hand 3. i can let go once the opponent shoves. 99 is a bit weak and ever more likely racing at best. can find a better spot against the villain even if you have seen them do this with 88 before tho if im in a gambling mood i will take it on here like you did
hand 4. i am fine with flop n turn with it being multi way but river an easy fold
hand 5. im not even half decent heads up so this could carry no weight. dont really like raising the turn and i defo dont bet the river after my turn raise is called purely because we have some showdown value but i suck at heads up.
hand 6. once again flop is fine by me. the turn i set them in because they have only a pot bet behind them. as played i set them in or check depending on my mood. the J isnt the worst card that could come as it negates other 2 pair with an ace
calcalford
hand one was QQ the 3rd best hand preflop I open up the raise and it could be 66+ K10s+ KQo+ AJo+ so when he does the first reraise he would have a much wider range than KK or AA he might of had AQo+ KQs+ 1010+ then I do another raise and that6 itself should have been the jam and just shrugged my shoulders if he had KK or AA. if I want villians to call when I jam preflop then I need to have more than just KK and AA in my range.
hand 2 the reason I didn't raise preflop was because I would be left in a tough spot if he jammed knowing he does it with weak hands such as 88.
hand 3 that villain who jammed was the maniac I describe from hand two I had already seem him jam with 88 and other poor hands preflop so 99 could so often have been ahead.
Hand 4 and 5 were the two I take the blame for although with the heads up I do find it more easier to bluff most villians but this occasion the villain probably knew what he was doing.
We will just have to disagree on that one then, I dont think either of us are wrong in this instance. Its just risk aversion differing between us.
However, all of your above points (specifically expected ranges) are assuming that villain actually uses their brain, this isnt always the case, in fact its rarely the case, bar about 5regs
"66+ K10s+ KQo+ AJo+" You are in the worst position, I certianly would not say that should be a standard list for 5xbb raising in the small blind, I will not reveal what my range is, but suffice to say it will be a lot narrower when I raise 20p in sb.
Plus, their raise to £1.00 looks so strong and obv, I think you have shipped over the top of this as you are unsure how to proceed if you call. As imo, logically they are only going to £1 with AA,KK or AKs (maaaaybe), JJ/TT are generally going to call or raise to about 50p imo
I dont hate the re shove all in, I just wouldnt have done it myself, thats all.
Oh and Tintin, you are my reference point at 4nl. I have only ever seen one aspect of your game that I would consider exploitable. You are the best 4nl player by a country mile. I and like to see how aligned my thought process is.