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  • craigcu12craigcu12 Member Posts: 3,960
    edited May 2014
    as for my BR it stands at £264
  • freshfish1freshfish1 Member Posts: 127
    edited May 2014
    In Response to Re: craigcu12 diary:
    today i yet again took myself a step too far and bought the 3K BH then having gone out i had half an hour of bad play on cash. what i am finding a nightmare is how to do my notes best, and what are the most important notes to have so what i keep doing is going into too much detail with the hand histories and can be still looking at hands after 5 hours. what are the most important things to keep track of?
    Posted by craigcu12
    Here's a free bit of info from Harrington's online cash book. It's a bit dated but still quite useful IMO:)

    1. number of tables villain plays, standard BI amount and whether they auto top-up.

    Easy to spot multitabling regs and probable recreational players with this info at a glance

    2. Preflop notes - making and calling 3b and 4b's, what he will go or call all in with.

    Critical info IMO especially if they religiously do the same thing over again.

    3. Postflop notes - what he will go atw to the river with, how do they play draws? semibluff or c/c?, unusual bets including donking, do they pc top pair type hands on the turn?

    Against regs who vary their betting patterns from player to player this can be less reliable but against either multitabling nits or recreational players it can be really useful. Eg: some players may always semibluff by shoving over a bet otf but just raise normally if they have a made hand.

    Hope that's fairly useful as a guide to get you started and it didn't cost £30 for the book:)
  • craigcu12craigcu12 Member Posts: 3,960
    edited May 2014
    my expirience on the micro stakes this afternoon has been a one of tables filled with all kicks of players. their were some loose donks which put hands such as AK in difficult spots when they missed, their were trappers and calling stations their was the odd reg, basically my play was varying so much.
    i had overall lost lots on them table and only 1 of them got profit, that would have all sounded bad but i also had 1 nl20 table as well and that was great with a total win of £79.79 (buy in £31.24) the nl20 i just remained calm and put much more care into my hands.
    if their is one thing yesterday night and this afternoon has shown me it's that the way money is won in poker best is when you accept small pots. even when it's calling station in the hand they will only call bets when they hit i see them folding lots of flops.

    points tally so far this month 930
    BR is £293
  • CraigSG1CraigSG1 Member Posts: 1,824
    edited May 2014
    Honest question for you. How do you view my play? I will post why after you answer, as a view on nl10.
  • craigcu12craigcu12 Member Posts: 3,960
    edited May 2014
    In Response to Re: craigcu12 diary:
    Honest question for you. How do you view my play? I will post why after you answer, as a view on nl10.
    Posted by CraigSG1
    i will go into better detail with a few of the hands that stick out tomorrow and explain about my thoughts on your play better then.

    also i'll send a message on a way we can talk about them in detail.
  • craigcu12craigcu12 Member Posts: 3,960
    edited May 2014
    not keeping track of my winnings and losses has cause my BR tohave gone right down to bare bones and i think now i'm thinking myself that i'm getting results orientated.

    even though my BR is now down to £114 i can still see myself playing a few nl10. the trouble i've had is i become bored quite easy so started getting over aggressive or started buying MTTs.

    what i'm thinking of doing as a way to get round being so bored is to play 3 full ring tables on 888 poker as those tables tend to have lots more action than micro stakes 6 max.

    i won't always be playing the nl10 sometimes i will play action tables as they are good too.
    what i need to accept most of all is that i will not get my BR back as quickly as i lost it.

    truthfully if this does not teach me the damage MTTs do to a BR i don't know what will because this is the second time i've let myself down through MTT hyperness.

    my aunty, carer and very close friend were all saying to me "craig with draw that £1'000 as poker is total luck" i refused to do it and said i could prove it so they all expected me to still be over the 1K mark now. so i have no one to blame but myself for being greedy.
  • craigcu12craigcu12 Member Posts: 3,960
    edited May 2014
    my first session today was a good one on sky but not as good on 888 poker.
    my 3 sky tables got profits £1.14 £10.24 and £7.51 so noy i've got a BR of £133.22

    as for the 888 poker that was just break even.

    after have a break i'm going to play some SnG DYM as they are the type i can manage to play fine.
  • freshfish1freshfish1 Member Posts: 127
    edited May 2014
    I'm cracking around with a few small buy in MTTs myself at the mo except last night when I used my C4P rewards to buy in to the £33 BH.

    Thing is that the variance is much higher than cash so you need a much larger roll. I'm sure I read somewhere that it is suggested that you should have 100 times the buy in you play so to play £5 MTTs needs a BR of at least £500, £10 ones £1000 and so on... You only need to play a few £30-50 ones and bust out to lose a lot fairly quickly.

    The one thing I do find sometimes is the difficulty of playing MTTs or SNGs and CASH at the same time as the strategy required to win is so much different. Whereas I will happily ship TPGK on the flop in an MTT with 20-30BB's doing it on cash for 100BB is usually a losing play so playing the two together can make you do things very differently.

    Really hope you spin this up soon, as from what I've seen you've built up from the days of NL4 and become a decent player at NL10-20. As I can vouch for, playing above your BR be it cash or MTTs is the quickest way to hit bustoville - I used to do it all the time (spin £50 upto £500-1000 and play NL50,100 or 200), play higher as I got greedy and within a few days I was broke or withdrew a fraction of what I should've done!

    gl
  • Matt237Matt237 Member Posts: 1,785
    edited May 2014
    In Response to Re: craigcu12 diary:
    I'm cracking around with a few small buy in MTTs myself at the mo except last night when I used my C4P rewards to buy in to the £33 BH. Thing is that the variance is much higher than cash so you need a much larger roll. I'm sure I read somewhere that it is suggested that you should have 100 times the buy in you play so to play £5 MTTs needs a BR of at least £500, £10 ones £1000 and so on... You only need to play a few £30-50 ones and bust out to lose a lot fairly quickly. The one thing I do find sometimes is the difficulty of playing MTTs or SNGs and CASH at the same time as the strategy required to win is so much different. Whereas I will happily ship TPGK on the flop in an MTT with 20-30BB's doing it on cash for 100BB is usually a losing play so playing the two together can make you do things very differently. Really hope you spin this up soon, as from what I've seen you've built up from the days of NL4 and become a decent player at NL10-20. As I can vouch for, playing above your BR be it cash or MTTs is the quickest way to hit bustoville - I used to do it all the time (spin £50 upto £500-1000 and play NL50,100 or 200), play higher as I got greedy and within a few days I was broke or withdrew a fraction of what I should've done! gl
    Posted by freshfish1
    That is absolutely key Craig, you need to remember that. Hope you can spin it up.
  • craigcu12craigcu12 Member Posts: 3,960
    edited May 2014
    the poker i played today was had a much better bankroll management than recently
    the money i won in the cash thish afternoon  i put that towards a £750 BH the mini and the orford league.
    i also won 1 of 2 DYMs and finished 1st in a six max so i used that in 1 semi and 3 all in sats. I did go in the LR semi too when i didn't take the buy in for the STT into account, which i should of did.

    this evening i also had 2 cash tables and they both again went very well with a profit of £8.83 and £12.50.
    so overall my cash winnings today was £40.22 and the SnG winning was £13 (£19.50 £10)-(2x5.50 DYM +£5.50 6max)

    the mini, the orford league and the sats failed but i did very good in £750 BH and also got entry into 3K BH which i registered into just prior to my entry so that icould cancel it and i will play in the 3K tomorrow as i need an early night.

    the £750 BH was a great one and i finished 7th in that and won myself £28.68 (£22.62+£11.81 5HP-£5.75)
    i did start off very lucky in it. the thing was their is a head now availible so i could be ahead just as often as i am behind as i see lots jamming flush draws and straight draws in these spots
    des1967 Small blind   15.00 15.00 2405.00
      Big blind   30.00 45.00 2135.00
      Your hole cards
    • Q
    • 9
         
    kingleeds1 Call   30.00 75.00 2705.00
    DtheB Fold        
    craigcu12 Raise   150.00 225.00 1505.00
    HP Call   150.00 375.00 875.00
    des1967 Fold        
      Raise   240.00 615.00 1895.00
    kingleeds1 Call   240.00 855.00 2465.00
    craigcu12 Call   120.00 975.00 1385.00
    HP Call   120.00 1095.00 755.00
    Flop
       
    • 9
    • 10
    • 10
         
      Check        
    kingleeds1 Bet   30.00 1125.00 2435.00
    craigcu12 Raise   210.00 1335.00 1175.00
    HP All-in   755.00 2090.00 0.00
      Raise   1300.00 3390.00 595.00
    kingleeds1 Fold        
    craigcu12 All-in   1175.00 4565.00 0.00
      Call   85.00 4650.00 510.00
      Show
    • 10
    • A
         
    craigcu12 Show
    • Q
    • 9
         
    HP Show
    • 5
    • 6
         
    Turn
       
    • 2
         
    River
       
    • 4
         
    craigcu12 Win Flush to the Queen 4650.00   4650.00
    the blinds had only got to 20/40 when i got a second big amount of chips this time with 105s in BB limped pot flop comes 10h 4d 2d and the SB bet so i raised then the turn came 5c i bet 600 then on the river came a second 5 so i bet half pot but i could have did a full pot and he would still probably have called with what was Q 10. it was just 2 hands later when i got a 3rd big pot this time it was KKvs K7 i made a 3bet with it preflop and the K7o called then he gets the worst he could ask for when the flop came Kc 7h 3c so he might be thinking he has a good hand from that loose call but finds out he is not getting what he hoped so my chip stack after these 3 hands was now 9305 (150+BB)

    their was one bad decision when the MTT was at it's bubble
    indy147 Small blind   300.00 300.00 26561.66
    jawzindawz Big blind   600.00 900.00 22767.50
      Your hole cards
    • Q
    • K
         
    alksnis01 Raise   1200.00 2100.00 29407.50
    j3ono Fold        
    craigcu12 Call   1200.00 3300.00 24577.50
    Karver All-in   10625.00 13925.00 0.00
    indy147 Fold        
    jawzindawz Fold        
    alksnis01 Fold        
    craigcu12 Call   9425.00 23350.00 15152.50
    craigcu12 Show
    • Q
    • K
         
    Karver Show
    • A
    • A
         
    Flop
       
    • 8
    • 2
    • A
         
    Turn
       
    • J
         
    River
       
    • 6
         
    Karver Win Three Aces 23350.00   23350.00
  • craigcu12craigcu12 Member Posts: 3,960
    edited May 2014
    so my day has had £40.22 cash 8p+3KBH MTT £13 STT

    overall £53.30 profit
    BR £178.63 (including the £11 BI i have for tomorrow 3k BH)
    points so far 2807.
  • craigcu12craigcu12 Member Posts: 3,960
    edited May 2014
    after having a well organised session on friday what happens i got back my old state where i was playing MTT cash SnG and sats all at once so mistakes were happening all the time.

    this after noon i had one good cash table and got profit of £25.02
    this evening was nothing like that and i had losses of 21p £6.78 £2.48 £14.43 and £3.28.

    the problem tonight was the 3K BHthat i won entry into started at 9:30 and i couldn't find any cheap BH MTT around the next one started at 10:05 for £2.30 and the 1K BH was not until 10:40, so i ended up playing cash tables to keep me from getting bored, the problem is i started mixing up my play.
    i should have just accepted the £11 cash from that MTT freeroll sat and rather than use it in the 3K BH i should just do what i did friday.

    sunday is another day when the main and mini are not BH and although i like the super roller it's far to expensive.
    so instead of doing sats for that i will first make sure i get a good winnings on cash tables then if i manage to win a profit that is good enough for my BR i will buy into the 500 BH (2.30) and the 750 BH (5.75) the benifit about them two bounty hunters is they are both starting at very siimular points and i can just avoid having to play cash tables.

    when i look at my winnings from the 750 BH yesterday it turns out that the 1K BH has a winning that is no better than the 750 BH but the 250 BH that starts about a simular time to the 1K BH has a smaller winnings that the 500 BH at 8:05

    the best thing about the £500 BH the £750 BH the DTDs the orford league and the mini is they all start at simular times, so i will already know my total cash table profit and can decide how many of them i can enter. DTD and orford are certain the decision on which of the mini BH the £750 BH and the £500 BH are where the cash play part.
  • craigcu12craigcu12 Member Posts: 3,960
    edited May 2014
    the best thing of all about those MTT is if i do go out early i still stand a good chance of getting time to play cash, something i don't have the chance of when i played in the 1K BH and £250 BH tonight.
  • craigcu12craigcu12 Member Posts: 3,960
    edited May 2014

    I am just not in the mode to play poker at the minute and will take a break away from it for a few days

  • craigcu12craigcu12 Member Posts: 3,960
    edited May 2014
    the bad run looks to have stopped and things now are getting back on track again.
    today i started off with a cash session on 4 tables and got 2 good profits (£6.56, £14.58), 1 bad loss (-£5.93) and 1 mini loss (-77p). I was later only going to use it in 1 semi as it wasn't that much money won and i still did want some winnings kept, but then i changed my mind as i had a great profit on a NL20 table where i won £20.11, i did loose -£1.40 on a nl10p at the time too but still i now had a profit of £33.15 from cash so i went a step further and entered 3 all in sats (-£5.40), the £750 BH (-£5.75), the £500 BH (£2.30) and as i won an all in sat into the main i went into the mini (-£5.50)
    so overall i spent £26.15 of the £33.15.

    the MTTs themselves were a mixture of good and bad.
    the one i did very well in was the £750 BH which got me profit of £50.15 (£43+£12.90HP-£5.75)
    i also did very good in the orford league and finishe 8th in that one winning profit of 4.34 (£7.64-£3.30)
    i was going very well in the 5K BH then things changed when i called an all in with 109s running into KK so my chipstack was now just an average one and it was not long before i went out so overall i lost 80p (£1.50HP-£2.30)
    the mini BH was virtually the same all through as hands just kept away from me.

    the worst MTTs but were the main event and the £3K BH (i entered this as i was in the money of the £750bH), their i am sitting in a main and 3K BH yet my table in both these make the £750 BH £500BH and the mini all look like pros, just a few minutes before i went out of them.

    so overall my day has been a great day with £33.15 cash profit and £24.69 MTT profit

    my BR is now £185.42
    points tally 3442
  • craigcu12craigcu12 Member Posts: 3,960
    edited May 2014
    sometimes it doesn't even need to be MTTs as it can just be a case of very weak play and i think sky is now getting very much like that. the other day i saw two with AA doing just a call today i saw it done by KK. time and time again it seems to be a sign that they take the BBV section too serious as their is massive numbers of posts stating the river card causes them to go behind. so i did have £20 profit but then it turned into a loss of £90 through nits.

    to show why i think they do fear too much about the river card here was a hand which i was lucky with today
    i could under stand him checking the turn if he was thinking i might be ahead with AA AK A10 KK or 1010 but the fact he then jams it following my bet shows to me that really he is more in fear of the river card.
    jobyjsnr Small blind   £0.10 £0.10 £15.84
      Big blind   £0.20 £0.30 £28.28
      Your hole cards
    • 10
    • Q
         
    craigcu12 Raise   £0.60 £0.90 £32.48
    ChipGod180 Fold        
    samgriffin Fold        
    RockyJP Fold        
    jobyjsnr Fold        
      Call   £0.40 £1.30 £27.88
    Flop
       
    • K
    • 10
    • A
         
      Bet   £1.30 £2.60 £26.58
    craigcu12 Raise   £3.40 £6.00 £29.08
      Call   £2.10 £8.10 £24.48
    Turn
       
    • 2
         
      Check        
    craigcu12 Bet   £8.00 £16.10 £21.08
      All-in   £24.48 £40.58 £0.00
    craigcu12 Call   £16.48 £57.06 £4.60
      Show
    • K
    • 10
         
    craigcu12 Show
    • 10
    • Q
         
    River
       
    • J
         
    craigcu12 Win Straight to the Ace £55.26   £59.86
    to show how different the loose play is in cash compared to MTT
    here is one hand here
    plater83 Small blind   25.00 25.00 1375.00
    sylvia1970 Big blind   50.00 75.00 800.00
      Your hole cards
    • Q
    • A
         
    Missed Raise   100.00 175.00 775.00
    PlainJ90 Fold        
    craigcu12 Raise   200.00 375.00 825.00
    coolit215 Fold        
    plater83 Fold        
    sylvia1970 Raise   675.00 1050.00 125.00
    Missed Call   625.00 1675.00 150.00
    craigcu12 All-in   825.00 2500.00 0.00
    sylvia1970 All-in   125.00 2625.00 0.00
    Missed All-in   150.00 2775.00 0.00
    craigcu12 Unmatched bet   150.00 2625.00 150.00
    sylvia1970 Show
    • A
    • 10
         
    Missed Show
    • A
    • 5
         
    craigcu12 Show
    • Q
    • A
         
    Flop
       
    • 6
    • 8
    • 5
         
    Turn
       
    • 9
         
    River
       
    • J
         
    Missed Win Pair of 5s 2625.00   2625.00
    so this tells me that now i need to play more 888poker because it's not that long before boredom will kick in on the cash tables of sky and when ever i play MTT it's the exact oppisite effect where they can't fold.
  • craigcu12craigcu12 Member Posts: 3,960
    edited May 2014
    tonight was not a night for poker really as i was taking more time with decisions and also made some bad calls hand like this one for instance i got frustrated with myself afterwards because the minute he raised the river first hand that came to mind was AQ but i insisted on calling thinking he could do it with AK
    Grafix Sit out        
    TMT_TBE Small blind   £0.10 £0.10 £20.14
    supercrazy Big blind   £0.20 £0.30 £19.80
      Your hole cards
    • 10
    • K
         
    steve1602 Fold        
    ulsterfr30 Raise   £0.60 £0.90 £19.10
    craigcu12 Call   £0.60 £1.50 £40.10
    TMT_TBE Fold        
    supercrazy Call   £0.40 £1.90 £19.40
    Flop
       
    • J
    • 8
    • 10
         
    supercrazy Check        
    ulsterfr30 Check        
    craigcu12 Check        
    Turn
       
    • 2
         
    supercrazy Check        
    ulsterfr30 Bet   £1.43 £3.33 £17.67
    craigcu12 Call   £1.43 £4.76 £38.67
    supercrazy Fold        
    River
       
    • K
         
    ulsterfr30 Check        
    craigcu12 Bet   £2.00 £6.76 £36.67
    ulsterfr30 Raise   £10.76 £17.52 £6.91
    craigcu12 Call   £8.76 £26.28 £27.91
    ulsterfr30 Show
    • Q
    • A
         
    craigcu12 Muck
    • 10
    • K
         
    ulsterfr30 Win Straight to the Ace £24.96   £31.87
    at the same time i was worried about them folding so didn't raise as often with monsters like this
    steve1602 Small blind   £0.10 £0.10 £23.90
    BIGAL25 Big blind   £0.20 £0.30 £12.68
      Your hole cards
    • Q
    • A
         
    craigcu12 Raise   £0.60 £0.90 £19.40
    TMT_TBE Raise   £2.40 £3.30 £30.43
    Yidooooo Fold        
    ulsterfr30 Fold        
    steve1602 Fold        
    BIGAL25 Fold        
    craigcu12 Call   £1.80 £5.10 £17.60
    Flop
       
    • K
    • J
    • 10
         
    craigcu12 Check        
    TMT_TBE Bet   £3.20 £8.30 £27.23
    craigcu12 Call   £3.20 £11.50 £14.40
    Turn
       
    • 6
         
    craigcu12 Check        
    TMT_TBE Check        
    River
       
    • 2
         
    craigcu12 Check        
    TMT_TBE Check        
    craigcu12 Show
    • Q
    • A
         
    TMT_TBE Muck
    • A
    • K
         
    craigcu12 Win Flush to the King £10.92   £25.32
     so i lost £36 tonight but i'm going on a 2 day cycle ride tomorrow which should put this bad period behind me and when i return i will have my A game back i hope.
  • HYPETINGHYPETING Member Posts: 253
    edited May 2014
    How are you even playing NL10 with your bankroll? Never mind NL20?

    Minimum 50 bi's for each level imo. 
  • craigcu12craigcu12 Member Posts: 3,960
    edited May 2014
    In Response to Re: craigcu12 diary:
    How are you even playing NL10 with your bankroll? Never mind NL20? Minimum 50 bi's for each level imo. 
    Posted by HYPETING
    if i was having long sessions i wouldn't want to play on nl10 but i'm going to now have a few short sessions each day.

    what i'm going to have is 1 nl10p table up and 4-5 nl 4p tables.
    in my two sessions so far today the nl10p tables won £8.34 and £3.46.
  • craigcu12craigcu12 Member Posts: 3,960
    edited May 2014

    My poker today has been a day I should not forget in a hurry, all the problems I've had in recent weeks with MTT bankroll management and length of time on cash without a break seemed to be history, today I decided  to keep away from MTTs altogether and spent just 1.5-2 hours max on cash tables before taking a break and by doing that I've not had one stressful moment at all knowing that if the current session was a bad one I will still have had a good one earlier or like today, a session to spare later on.

    going of my post so far you'll have guess my first session was not a good one and I ended up almost break even which was thanks to some very good river luck when my set struck quads and also a quads which was easy to hide thanks to 3 of the cards being on the board. the second session was a much better one with profit on all but one table whilst the 3rd session was a mixture. the case with a nl10p table was I had 1 nl10 on the first session and second session but just did nl4 and action tables this evening.

    the session winnings were
    session 1 42p
    session 2 £10.63
    session 3 £12.48
    overall £23.53

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