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Get in the Hole! 2017 Season!

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  • Ice_TigerIce_Tiger Member Posts: 1,533
    edited April 2016
    Valero Texas Open

    Bryson DeChambeau 25/1

    Has been making us money all year from 350/1 down to 25/1 now. Not brilliant value but he is on the up so let's stick with him.

    Aaran Baddeley 66/1

    He has three top twenty finishes here from four starts so likes the course. A change of coach has seen an upturn in his form this season so he could go close.

    KJ Choi 125/1

    Older golfers tend to win here and KJ is a solid golfer who performs well when the wind gets up so is value at this price.

    Good Luck!
  • mrdaviesmrdavies Member Posts: 475
    edited April 2016
    missed your tips this week ice!! where has darty gone? he has left us in the lurch again..
  • TheDartTheDart Member Posts: 1,581
    edited April 2016
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2016 Season! (Valero Texas Open & Shenzhen Int.):
    missed your tips this week ice!! where has darty gone? he has left us in the lurch again..
    Posted by mrdavies
    A strange thing happened to me after Danny Willett won The Masters, instead of going on massive positive tilt and eagerly waiting the next golf tournament, I found myself feeling a little flat and not really bothered about the golf the following week.

    Not only was I a fan of Danny Willett via the bookies I was also a big sporting fan of the dedicated Englishman who promised big things.

    I think it was because I'd put so much commitment into following Danny Willett over the last couple of years that when he went and won the big one and I was with him all the way, even topping up in running, there was a subsequent realization those punting highs may never be repeated and as his price for future majors was halved, a feeling on my part, of what next.

    All of that plus the fact I was travelling with my day job meant I had very little time to follow the golf, so I took a break of sorts, though if I'm honest I did manage a couple of casual wagers last week.

    So what to do now.

    Well not much time to study this week and in China there is no course form for us to analyze.

    But its China where I will cautiously suggest a new forum fan club.

    A player I have tipped a couple of times already and that's South African Dean Burmester.

    One of the traits that first drew me to Danny Willett was his confidence; almost from the outset he had bags of confidence, talked a good game and managed to back it up on the course.

    Burmester has won plenty on the Sunshine Tour and talks as if he expects to do similar on the bigger stages such as the European Tour.

    He seen players he regualrly beats like Brandon Stone and Hayden Porteous win on the European Tour so why shouldnt he be confident.

    When I've seen him play he does seem to posses that extra little bit of self belief and expectancy to hit a good shot, that many golfers don't always show.

    He doesn't have his European Tour card, but gets in this week thanks to his top 100 world ranking.

    He's going to be at a disadvantage most weeks he plays an event, as he will be playing courses for the first time, thats no problem this week as its a new course for everyone.

    What I have read about the course is that its a seriously long course, one of Dean Burmesters strengths just happens to be his ability hit it off the tee further than virtually every other player.

    So Dean Burmester 40/1 ew outright and going out in the second group of the day, 50/1 FRL.



    Good Luck All.

     
  • TheDartTheDart Member Posts: 1,581
    edited April 2016
    China Open

    Since my post on who I thought was relatively 'unknown' Dean Burmester I see he is one of the headline tips on Sporting Life and one of three players highlighted by the European Tours official fantasy site.

    The bookies have also wised up and are pushing his price OUT, now available at 45-/1 and 50/1.


    Added a couple of others to the portfolio:

    Thorbjorn Olesen - 25/1, good result in China last week, sounding very confident and clearly playing well.


    Peter Uihlein - 40/1, long course, wide fairways, will suit an aggressive strategy, if fit and focused Uihlein should go close this week.


    Sebastien Gros - 125/1, two time winner on the Challenge Tour last year, decent results on the main tour this season, including a 19th place finish in China last week. He hits it a mile, so this course should suit. Looks overpriced.
  • Ice_TigerIce_Tiger Member Posts: 1,533
    edited April 2016
    Volvo China Open

    A difficult one to assess as this course is used for the first time for this event so we have just a couple of minor events to go on and general form in China so I will be keeping bets small and going largely by current form.

    It will probably take a score of close to -20 to win here so we need players that can rack up birdies without throwing away too many shots elsewhere. 

    Joost Luiten is a deserved favourite at 10/1  and it is hard to see anyone more likely to win with Weisberger, Levy & Ross Fisher close behind. The most recent winners of this event have been Wu at 200/1, Levy at 150/1, Rumford at 50/1, Grace at 60/1 and Colsaerts at 80/1 so picking a winner isn't easy.

    Joost Luiten 10/1

    Luiten is the man in form with two second place finishes in his last two starts plus a sixth in Thailand last month. Should be right there and is the most likely winner this week.

    Alex Noren 28/1

    I have dabbled with Noren quite a bit and was impressed with his latest sixth placed finish in the Spanish Open and in a weaker field could triumph here.

    Soomin Lee 35/1

    Cannot help but be impressed how he held it together last week to claim his first European Tour victory. After blowing up in Malaysia a few weeks ago when clear, this time, he held firm. How will he fare this week? Not sure but at the price, he is worth a punt.

    Scott Hend 35/1

    Got us a place last week at 50/1 & is the kind of player suited to chasing a very low score. He won in Thailand last month and claimed fourh last week & has every chance of going close again.

    Probably a 100/1 shot will come through & surprise us all again so keeping stakes low.
  • TheDartTheDart Member Posts: 1,581
    edited April 2016

    Zurich Open

    Unlike the China Open, there is plenty of course form here for us to analyze or ignore.

    I say ignore, as I am skipping past obvious candidates at the head of the market.

    Daniel Berger - 25/1, sixth on his debut here last year and seemingly coming into form.

    Chris Kirk - 40/1, good all round game and makes more putts than most, looks ready for a big win.

    Cameron Tringale - 50/1, very solid form here, including runner up last year and four top twenty finishes in the last 5 years.

    Patton Kizzire - 50/1, I felt he might have won an event by now, last years money leader on the Web.com Tour has got himself into position a few times, last time out he was one off the lead with 9 holes to play, but fell away badly to finish 14th.

    Good enough to get into position to have another crack at getting that maiden win on tour.

     

  • Ice_TigerIce_Tiger Member Posts: 1,533
    edited April 2016
    Zurich Classic of New Orleans

    We have plenty of form to go on here for the 70th staging of this event. The field is of moderate standard but with three "Top Ten" players in the field, it will take some winning but there are some decent prices about.

    The field is led by Jason Day, Justin Rose & Rickie Fowler, all at relatively short prices. Day is 5/1 so I really cannot get involved. Cannot get excited about Fowler at 12/1 when he hasn't hit a ball since he fell apart at the Masters. Rose has his merits. The course suits him, he has a good record here and he appears to be coming into form but 17/2 doesn't quite do it for me.

    Once you eliminate the top three then picking decent priced possibilities becomes much easier. The course seems to suit players who are good at GIR, Scrambling & Putting and while Putting can be hit & miss, to find decent candidates for GIR & Scrambling is reasonably straightforward.

    Daniel Berger 25/1

    Berger is the name that jumps off the page when you look at the combination of suitability & form. A fifth in Houston & tenth at the Masters this month show that he is in top form. He was tied sixth here a year ago so loves the course & is in better form now. Seems the obvious candidate, on paper at least.

    Patton Kizzire 60/1

    Another player who should be ideally suited to this course. !4th last time out and looks ripe to be close again in an event that often produces a maiden winner.

    Jamie Lovemark 50/1

    A bit hit & miss but don't want to miss out when he hits. Results this year have been 7th - 6th - 31st - MC - 20th - MC - 37th - 6th - 18th - MC. Just needs to push on and turn those top twenty finishes into a win and on a course that suits his scrambling, this could be the week.

    Cameron Tringale 50/1

    Likes this event, finishing second last year, 17th in 2014, 7th in 2012 & 18th in 2011. Clearly suited to the course & could be his break through week.

    Good Luck!
  • Ice_TigerIce_Tiger Member Posts: 1,533
    edited May 2016
    Trophee Hassan II

    Before we start this week's preview, let's reflect on last week where Jamie Lovemark was just a stroke from victory in New Orleans, losing in a Playoff giving us a 50/1 full place.

    The European Tour moves to Morocco this week and we have probably the weakest field of the year so far so a great opportunity for a maiden winner or someone to stamp their class against the rest. The event moves to the Royal Golf Club Dar Es Salam where we have limited course form. What we do know is that the couse is likely to favour GIR players with little advantage for long driving.

    The field is led by Alexander Levy & Alejandro Canizares. I like Canazares but cannot get too excited by 16/1 on a player who blows hot & cold. In fact, it is hard to pick a strategy here because the players that I like to back at 50/1+ are half their usual price this week so going for a mix of prices. Here is a portfolio that should net us a place or two & might catch us the winner. There are arguments for Burmester, Dunne, Pepperell, and a few others but this is our team for this week.

    Gregory Bourdy 22/1

    A player I have dabbled with recently who could blow this field apart or could do nothing. I would prefer a bigger price but 22/1 will look massive if he holds a five shot lead after 54 holes. He has decent form and if he steps it up a notch........

    Andrew Johnston 25/1

    Won the Spanish Open three weeks ago and after a couple of weeks rest, he is back. If he is anywhere near that form then he is the most likely winner here.

    Dylan Frittelli 40/1

    Frittelli caught my eye with his second place at the Australian PGA in December and has been in decent form since with top twenty finishes in South African Open, Tshwane Open, Kenya Open & Egyptian Challenge. Could be his breakthrough week.

    Mike Lorenzo Vera 66/1

    Has gone close a few times recently interspersed with several missed cuts. If he is on this week then he could burst clear & stay there. His 6th place at the Spanish Open was quality. Just needs to repeat that against a weaker field.

    Christiaan Bezuidenhuit 75/1

    Regular followers will know I am a fan of the young South African who has already bagged us a second place at 250/1. This course is perfect for him and at 75/1, he is a snip.

    Ross McGowan 110/1

    Finished 12th in SA Open & 10th in Joburg Open. On a similar course here & against a weaker field, could just make the jump up.

    Good Luck!
  • TheDartTheDart Member Posts: 1,581
    edited May 2016
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2016 Season! (Zurich Classic & Volvo China Open):
    Trophee Hassan II Before we start this week's preview, let's reflect on last week where Jamie Lovemark was just a stroke from victory in New Orleans, losing in a Playoff giving us a 50/1 full place.
    Posted by Ice_Tiger
    I thought a more interesting point to reflect on was that for said Zurich Classic, out of 156 players, you and I managed to duplicate three of our 4 picks.

    I thought at the time there can only be one outcome, that our one pick that was different would be our 'star player' for the week and that proved to be the case with Jamie Lovemark giving you a return and me with Chris Kirk.

    It will be interesting to see if we arrive at similar conclusions for the Wells Fargo.

    Good Luck.
  • Ice_TigerIce_Tiger Member Posts: 1,533
    edited May 2016
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2016 Season! (Zurich Classic & Volvo China Open):
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2016 Season! (Zurich Classic & Volvo China Open) : I thought a more interesting point to reflect on was that for said Zurich Classic, out of 156 players, you and I managed to duplicate three of our 4 picks. I thought at the time there can only be one outcome, that our one pick that was different would be our 'star player' for the week and that proved to be the case with Jamie Lovemark giving you a return and me with Chris Kirk. It will be interesting to see if we arrive at similar conclusions for the Wells Fargo. Good Luck.
    Posted by TheDart
    I had put my bets on the day before I posted it on here so wasn't influenced other than they are all players that I have backed before & I think you have backed before.

    Will put up Wells Fargo tomorrow morning.
  • TheDartTheDart Member Posts: 1,581
    edited May 2016
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2016 Season! (Zurich Classic & Volvo China Open):
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2016 Season! (Zurich Classic & Volvo China Open) : I had put my bets on the day before I posted it on here so wasn't influenced other than they are all players that I have backed before & I think you have backed before. Will put up Wells Fargo tomorrow morning.
    Posted by Ice_Tiger
    Yes, I didn't consider that my post influenced you.

    I imagine you are like me, you like to do your own research and make your own mind up go with your own picks and then maybe consider other opinions later.

    My bets for the week are on, no time to post now, but will try and post later tonight.
  • TheDartTheDart Member Posts: 1,581
    edited May 2016

    Trophee Hassan

    Well I've gone in completely the opposite direction to Ice this week:

    Dean Burmester - 28/1, After 10 holes last week, he was leading the field by two shots, he finished day one well placed, but caught the worst of the weather on day 2 and didn't handle conditions well.

    In a weaker field this week and again on a course where few have recent course knowledge, we'll set him up for the win.

    Benjamin Hebret - 28/1, starting to put together some consistently good performances and I like the fact that he was a multiple winner on the Challenge Tour, ticking that 'knows how to win' box.

    Gregory Havret - 33/1, been playing very well on all types of course this season. Big fish in small pond this week.

    Matteo Manassero - 125/1, I've been keeping one eye on Manassero for a while now, if he does get back to his former level, he is more than likely going to pull off a win at a big price. Decent glimpses of form in China, makes his worth an ew tipple at three figure prices in this field.

    Matthew Baldwin - 350/1 6 places, Playing on a medical exemption, form has been very disappointing as he struggles to get back to where he was pre injury / illness.

    Reports this is one of the best courses he's seen and said 'can we play here every week'. For starters lets see if he can play 4 rounds this week, if he makes the cut, he could have a good weekend.





  • TheDartTheDart Member Posts: 1,581
    edited May 2016
    Wells Fargo

    Short Summary, if I'm on the same page as Ice Tiger again, he will explain why we are backing:

    JB Holmes - 25/1
    Kevin Chappell - 40/1
    Beyeong-Hun An - 50/1
    Patton Kizzire - 80/1
    Patrick Rodgers - 85/1

    All 6 places with the exception of Kizzire who is 5 places, (he won't finish 6th will he ;-)

    Good Luck all
  • Ice_TigerIce_Tiger Member Posts: 1,533
    edited May 2016
    Wells Fargo

    This event is being staged at the Quail Hollow Golf Club, Charlotte, North Carolina. The leading contenders are McIlroy, Fowler, Scott, Matsuyama, Stenson & Rose. While McIlroy has a great record on the course, I cannot feel confident enough of him to go with 4/1. In fact, there are enough doubts about most of the favourites that I am going for none of the above and am looking for a decent price to beat the favourites.

    This isn't an easy course to asess. It has traditionally favoured GIR & Scrambling. However, the last couple of years (after course adjustments), it has favoured driving distance so brings the bombers well into play.

    JB Holmes 28/1

    Winner here two years ago so suited by the course since the recent adjustments. His most recent finishes have been 6th - 6th - 11th - 11th - 59th - 4th - 13th so he is in pretty good form. The combination makes him great value here.

    Daniel Berger 40/1

    Suffered with the weather last week when well placed. Worth another chance.

    Justin Thomas 50/1

    It could just be a bombers week so Justin fits the bill. He looks to be coming into form as well.

    Jim Herman 300/1

    Two months ago, there was little to warrant any support then out of the blue, he won the Shell Houston Open. Six weeks later, he is back as a 300/1 shot. Then you look back a year & notice that he was 13th here. Maybe lightening will strike twice.

    There are a few others who might be worthy of a punt - Lovemark 60/1, DeChambeau 66/1, Finau 70/1, Donald 80/1, Kokrak 70/1, Schniederjans 150/1 & Wyatt 200/1.

    Good Luck!
  • TheDartTheDart Member Posts: 1,581
    edited May 2016
    Mauritius Open

    Another tricky week on the European Tour with a new course and a mixture of players from Europe, The Sunshine Tour and The Asian Tour.

    The wind is expected to blow and the course is said to have a links type feel to it in places.

    Plenty of angles to be find, such as Nicolas Colsaerts having a home on the island and being attached to the course, as is I believe Hennie Otto.

    Max Orrin has won two lower class events around here, so will be popular.

    Obvious winners at the head of the field, include last years event winner George Coetzee, Scott Hend who is playing well and plenty of players who have already won on Tour this year.

    I'm keeping it fairly simple for me:

    Dean Burmester - 20/1, uninspiring price for a player looking for his first win on tour, but he's been my main pick the last two weeks and a tied 14th place last week offered enough encouraging signs that he should be competitive this week at double the odds of the market leaders.

    Hennie Otto - 50/1, Had been struggling for a while making only 2 cuts from 9 starts, but last time out at the China Open he opened with a 63, before finishing a much improved 21st.

    If he can build on his result in China, on a course he knows well, the 50/1 will look very generous.

    Adrian Otaegui - 160/1, here's my dark horse for the week, young player with bags of talent, grew up playing golf on a seaside course in Spain so should be able to handle any windy conditions this week. Mentored by Jose Maria Olazabal, shown flashing of brillainace on tour such as shooting a 62 a couple of years ago.

    Joint winner of the tour school in 2015, but has since had a fairly low key start to the season.

    Came up on the radar last week in tough windy conditions in Morocco to finish 22nd, his best result this season by a long way.

    I like players who show signs of 'finding something' and I'm as quietly confident as you can be about a 160/1 shot going very well.


    With just the three picks this week, I'm also backing all three in the FRL market.

  • TheDartTheDart Member Posts: 1,581
    edited May 2016
    The Players Championship


    Widely regarded as the 5th major, no introductions necessary.

    Jordan Spieth - 10/1, something I never ever do is back a player ante post at such short odds in a golf tournament.

    Admittedly playing his first event since The Masters, this could go either way for Jordan Spieth.

    The memories of the bad swings could linger for months even years, but I'm very much in the camp that Jordan Spieth is a special talent with an exceptionally strong winning mentality.

    He'll be out to prove a point to himself never mind everyone that follows the game and on that point I think he will have done plenty of homework in preparation for this event.

    Branden Grace - 40/1, playing very well, winning his first event on the PGA Tour last month. Of course he was already a multiple winner on the European Tour and multiple is the key word as Grace tends to have really hot streaks where he looks like he can win every week.

    I'd decided he could be a value bet for a major this year, but at 40/1 why not start with the 5th major. Played here twice before making the cut without contending, an in form Grace might do considerably better this week.

    Chris Kirk - 90/1, at the Zurich Classic I was really hoping they would get 4 rounds in as to me Chris Kirk looked like the winner moving through the field at great knots, unfortunately they only managed 3 rounds, Kirk and his backers (well me)had to settle for a strong finishing tied 4th.

    So Chris Kirk went into the notebook for next time out and here we are.

    Confidence is further boosted when you consider last year Kirk was leading the Players after 3 rounds, he eventually finished 13th, as he did in 2014, but thats enough to show he can play the course well.

    Course form and current form, 6 places at 90/1 equals lovely jubbly :)

    Danny Willett - 45/1, I can't ignore the Masters Champion, not sure what to expect from Englands number one golfer this week, but it just wouldnt be right to watch the golf without 10p ew on Danny Willett :)


    Good Luck All
  • Ice_TigerIce_Tiger Member Posts: 1,533
    edited May 2016
    Mauritius Open

    Tricky to pick a winner here with possibly the weakest field ever on the European Tour. Coetzee, Hend, Stone & Van Zyl lead the betting markets in an open contest. There are open fairways which suggests that the course favours big hitters with little penalty for a lack of accuracy.

    Scott Hend 12/1

    The price is a bit short but I see Hend as the most likely winner if he plays to his potential. He has won for us at 45/1 in Thailand and placed at 50/1 in Shenzhen. Course is perfect for him. Could be close.

    JeungHunWang 20/1

    Impressive winner in Morrocco last week and could repeat it this week against an even weaker field.

    Haydn Porteous 28/1

    Won the Jo'burg Open in January and should be suited by this course. Good enough for a top five finish.

    Max Orrin 40/1

    Very mixed views on Orrin's chances here. He is the course specialist with three wins and a fifth on this course in the last two years. Some might say that he hasn't beaten much but he beat Colsaerts & Otto three times and the field isn't much stronger here and 40/1 is a fair price.

    Chris Hanson 80/1

    I was impresssed with him last week in Morrocco where a fifth place didn't really do him justice. He has a 6th & 12th placed finishes on this course so could be close this week at a decent price.

    Good Luck!
  • Ice_TigerIce_Tiger Member Posts: 1,533
    edited May 2016
    The Players Championship

    Top quality field headed by Speith, McIlroy, Day, Fowler, Matuyama, Garcia, Rose, Scott, Dustin Johnson, Watson & Stenson. 

    None of the above really catch my eye for the prices although we could all be made to look silly if Speith or Day coasts home by six shots. This course suits players who are accurate off the tee & are good on GIR in my opinion so I am looking for all rounders who are capable of four good rounds.

    Branden Grace 40/1

    Won at the Heritage last month and 9th at the Texas Open show that he is in decent form and this course should be to his liking. Rate his chances as better than players half his price.

    Danny Willett 50/1

    Suggestions that he might be undercooked have given us a decent price. Willett doesn't play to make up the numbers. He has only played six tournaments this year but has won two of them and has a third place. I expect him to be a serious contender this week.

    Charley Hoffman 70/1

    Won the Texas Open last month and with three consecutive Top 15 finishes is in good nick at the moment. Good value at this price.

    Kevin Kisner 100/1

    Runner up here last year so loves the course. A better player now with a win at the RSM Classic, a second at the HSBC and ninth at the Tournament of Champions. If he is on his A Game then he will be close.

    Bill Haas 100/1

    Fifth here a year ago and in a decent run of form with 9th, 8th, 2nd & 9th already this year. could be right there on Sunday.

    Good Luck!
  • Ice_TigerIce_Tiger Member Posts: 1,533
    edited May 2016
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2016 Season! (The Players & Mauritius Open):
    Mauritius Open Tricky to pick a winner here with possibly the weakest field ever on the European Tour. Coetzee, Hend, Stone & Van Zyl lead the betting markets in an open contest. There are open fairways which suggests that the course favours big hitters with little penalty for a lack of accuracy. Scott Hend 12/1 The price is a bit short but I see Hend as the most likely winner if he plays to his potential. He has won for us at 45/1 in Thailand and placed at 50/1 in Shenzhen. Course is perfect for him. Could be close. JeungHunWang 20/1 Impressive winner in Morrocco last week and could repeat it this week against an even weaker field. Haydn Porteous 28/1 Won the Jo'burg Open in January and should be suited by this course. Good enough for a top five finish. Max Orrin 40/1 Very mixed views on Orrin's chances here. He is the course specialist with three wins and a fifth on this course in the last two years. Some might say that he hasn't beaten much but he beat Colsaerts & Otto three times and the field isn't much stronger here and 40/1 is a fair price. Chris Hanson 80/1 I was impresssed with him last week in Morrocco where a fifth place didn't really do him justice. He has a 6th & 12th placed finishes on this course so could be close this week at a decent price. Good Luck!
    Posted by Ice_Tiger
    Nice 20/1 winner with JeungHunWang winning with a birdie on the 72nd hole.
  • TheDartTheDart Member Posts: 1,581
    edited May 2016
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2016 Season! (The Players & Mauritius Open):
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2016 Season! (The Players & Mauritius Open) : Nice 20/1 winner with JeungHunWang winning with a birdie on the 72nd hole.
    Posted by Ice_Tiger

    Yes well done ice

    He timed it perfectly, I don't think he was ever in the lead until his last putt on the 72nd hole dropped.

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