The better player you are the more you will get bad beats. Why is this? well the better player you are the more likely you are to get your money in when your winning. Therefore you will either win as you are suppose to or someone will suck out on you. If you always go in ahead you can never get lucky, if you always go in behind you can never get unlucky. That is why better players always feel that they don't have any luck. P.S be careful what you are classing as a bad beat, if someone shoves with 75 and I call with AK i am only a 60-40 fav to win the hand and therefore this situation is little more than a coin flip Posted by salazar
The better player you are the more you will get bad beats. Why is this? well the better player you are the more likely you are to get your money in when your winning. Therefore you will either win as you are suppose to or someone will suck out on you. If you always go in ahead you can never get lucky, if you always go in behind you can never get unlucky. That is why better players always feel that they don't have any luck. P.S be careful what you are classing as a bad beat, if someone shoves with 75 and I call with AK i am only a 60-40 fav to win the hand and therefore this situation is little more than a coin flip Posted by salazar
Well I've had hundreds of mind-blowing bad beats (including hitting trip jacks on flop against ace high and seeing A A on 4th and 5th street) so I must be nailed on for Total Player!
its poker.. over a period of time the better player will win.. i think you are only remembering the bad beats and have not mentioned the times the best hand won..
underdog winning 9/10??? doubt that verrry much..
this is why we love poker... it is the same regardless of which site you play on or even live in the casino..
its pokerrrrrrr, if you dont like it, dont play it.. fed up of all the whingers
its poker.. over a period of time the better player will win.. i think you are only remembering the bad beats and have not mentioned the times the best hand won.. underdog winning 9/10??? doubt that verrry much.. this is why we love poker... it is the same regardless of which site you play on or even live in the casino.. its pokerrrrrrr, if you dont like it, dont play it.. fed up of all the whingers Posted by daz231023
its poker.. over a period of time the better player will win.. i think you are only remembering the bad beats and have not mentioned the times the best hand won.. underdog winning 9/10??? doubt that verrry much.. this is why we love poker... it is the same regardless of which site you play on or even live in the casino.. its pokerrrrrrr, if you dont like it, dont play it.. fed up of all the whingers Posted by daz231023
Why r people disagreeing with Daz here? EVERYTHING he has written is true. Which part doesn't make sense?
Is he one of the blokes people Don't like on the forum?
Ive just read thru the 2nd half of this thread and canny believe people have found faults with this post, clueless? If u disagree with any of the above, I believe its u guys who are clueless, and very much suspect that when it comes to poker, u are!
He sums it up well with the last line.
Why dont uze post some of the hands where you aren't happy with the lay against you, then instead of winging and moaning about beats, maybe theres things we can discuss within your play to try and stop them happening as often as they do. 40 plus posts discussing bad play?
DOHHHHHHH I SEE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING BUT WITH REGARDS TO YOUR (POST YOUR HANDS AND WE WILL SEE WHAT YOUR DOING WRONG) HOW ARE PLAYERS DOING WRONG GETTING THE CHIPS IN 1ST WHEN YOU ARE AHEAD?NO ONE NO MATTER HOW GOOD YOU ARE CAN STOP A BAD BEAT.AGREED? DEBS XX
I agree with doh, you want to be playing against these players, pokers a game of luckand skill, you can only play the cards you get dealt after all Theres no right or wrong way of playing, you have to play the way that profits you, if the guys making a profit playing rag hands thats working for them, good luck to them. Cant see why people get the hump over a turn of a card.
In Response to Re: STANDARD OF PLAY GONE UP....YEAH RIGHT!!!! : Why r people disagreeing with Daz here? EVERYTHING he has written is true. Which part doesn't make sense? Is he one of the blokes people Don't like on the forum? Ive just read thru the 2nd half of this thread and canny believe people have found faults with this post, clueless? If u disagree with any of the above, I believe its u guys who are clueless, and very much suspect that when it comes to poker, u are! He sums it up well with the last line. Why dont uze post some of the hands where you aren't happy with the lay against you, then instead of winging and moaning about beats, maybe theres things we can discuss within your play to try and stop them happening as often as they do. 40 plus posts discussing bad play? DOHH Posted by DOHHHHHHH
i cannot believe how badly my post was taken.. i was only giving my opinion...
thanks dohh for the back up and good luck with the tp!!!
Alright Daz - I had read past your msg, but saw some people having a pop at you so went bak to find it, read it, and was amazed, there wasnt anything bad about it at all! haha.
As for total player - That dream is ova now! lol Nice to get recognised tho, Ive played so poorly the last week or so, maybe thats what let me down, Im going against my own advice and moving down the levels for a few days (doubt that will last very long but ill find out tomorrow).
Ill have another crack at it next time its Matts turn to pick, gonna prove him wrong!
Btw Ive just read ur profile Daz and was in stitches.
One piece of poker advice : Patience, it doesn't really work though! haha lololol
Dohx7 and Daz, love reading your comments.. In my view being passionate about something is never a bad thing so it's always interesting to see things from someone elses perspective. And as long as that perspective isn't inflammatory or derogatory then it is most welcome on this forum.
Dohx7 VWD on the total player recognition. Very well deserved IMO.
Fallenx I get what you are saying completely, I have had a few weeks of having to be a lot more cheerful on the site than I have felt due to the outcome of certain hands, tourneys and games. Obviously my role as Sky poker presenter means that I am essentially an ambassador for Sky Poker so must conduct myself as such. However as a poker player and one who plays pretty much every day on the site, I have to say that bad beats, nasty suckouts and river outdraws get me down as much as the next person. Especially when it happens for extended periods of time. Nobody is perfect right?!
But, at the end of the day it is a game and varience is impartial. Keep in mind that I and some of my colleagues play regularly on our own personal accounts with our own money more often than we play on our sky PTP accounts. So I take the hits to my BR as personally as anyone. Nobody likes bad beats or to be consistantly outdrawn. In poker it happens. It's not wrong or right but it is inevitable.
In Response to Re: STANDARD OF PLAY GONE UP....YEAH RIGHT!!!! : I HERE WHAT URE SAYING DIGGERMAN AND PROB YOU ARE CORRECT.BUT OVER TIME?HOW LONG?HOW LONG BEFORE YOUR SICK OF IT ALL AND GIVE UP?KEEP SEEING PEOPLE S L A G OFF THE MOANERS ONLY FOR THEM TO THEN SHORTLY START MOANING THEMSELVES.FICKLE WORLD AINT IT?DEBS XX Posted by debdobs_67
Hi Debs It is a fickle world and people like nothing more than having a good moan! lol How long?? That's a good question! If you get sick of all the bad beats and outdraws then maybe poker isn't the game for you. They're always gonna happen and you can't do much about it i'm afraid! But if you're not enjoying it then there isn't much point in playing, it's supposed to be entertainment after all! I don't mind people having a moan and xFALLENx I completely see where you're coming from which is why I relpied. I had two months where everytime I played it seemed I was at the wrong end of everything! I got through it but it does get you down. Hopefully you'll stay with it though because it really is a great game even with the muppets!
In Response to Re: STANDARD OF PLAY GONE UP....YEAH RIGHT!!!! : i cannot believe how badly my post was taken.. i was only giving my opinion... thanks dohh for the back up and good luck with the tp!!! Posted by daz231023
Daz I think it was the way you gave your opinion that got them hot under the collar! I said very similar things earlier in this thread but I did it in a less confrontational manner! lol Did you learn your posting skills from DOHHHHHHH? lol
In Response to Re: STANDARD OF PLAY GONE UP....YEAH RIGHT!!!! : HI CHARLYB8 IF YOU REALLY ONLY WANT TO PLAY PROPER POKER YOU ARE BETTER OFF TO A ONCE A MONTH OR MORE IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT IN THE 7.30PM DEEPSTACKS.I KNOW IT IS £22 BUT IT IS REAL POKER OF THE BEST CALIBRE.I THINK ALL WOULD AGREE ON THAT.DEBS XX Posted by debdobs_67
thats all well and good but dont get me wrong here but your playing with some of the best players on that tourny and your chances of cashing never mind winning are dramatically reduced so you really have to be on top of your game and what if merenovice,paperon or phil12uk suckout on you would it be the same knowing a good player has given you a bad beat...cant believe this thread hasnt been moved
BEEN READING ALL THE WONDERFUL ADVICE (VIA A FEW PPL ON HERE) AND TAKEN NOTE.....MY STORY LAST NIGHT....PLAYED IN TOURNY...AND WAS DOING OK.
THE CHIP LEADER (WHO IS ALWAYS ON MY TABLE....LOL) GOT BEAT WITH MUPPET CARDS AND HE HAD A GOOD OLD MOAN ABOUT IT.
AS I SAID I WAS DOING WELL BUT LOST A HUGE PART OF MY STACK 2 SURPRISE SURPRISE A RIVER WIN (SO SO SO TYPICAL).....SO I HAD 2 CHOOSE MY CARDS CAREFULLY AND GO ALLIN....AS BLINDS WERE LARGE.
THE CHIP LEADER CALLED MY ALLIN WITH 6 4!!!!!!
2 X 4 CAME DOWN SO HE GOT TRIPS AND KNOCKED ME OUT.
ANGER GOT THE BETTER AND I SAID 'WOW U CAN TALK....JOKE'
AND FUNNILY ENOUGH HE SAID NOTHING.
AND I SUSPECT HE FELT STUPID AS HE HAD COMPLAINED ABOUT THE VERY SAME THING HAPPENING 2 HIM.
In Response to Re: STANDARD OF PLAY GONE UP....YEAH RIGHT!!!! : Why r people disagreeing with Daz here? EVERYTHING he has written is true. Which part doesn't make sense? Is he one of the blokes people Don't like on the forum? Ive just read thru the 2nd half of this thread and canny believe people have found faults with this post, clueless? If u disagree with any of the above, I believe its u guys who are clueless, and very much suspect that when it comes to poker, u are! He sums it up well with the last line. Why dont uze post some of the hands where you aren't happy with the lay against you, then instead of winging and moaning about beats, maybe theres things we can discuss within your play to try and stop them happening as often as they do. 40 plus posts discussing bad play? DOHH Posted by DOHHHHHHH
I do NOT neeed 2 discuss my play.
I kno I play correctly, what Im saying is more and more muppet chancers seem 2 b appearing and yes they ARE winning with seriousy terrible hands.
In Response to Re: STANDARD OF PLAY GONE UP....YEAH RIGHT!!!! : i cannot believe how badly my post was taken.. i was only giving my opinion... thanks dohh for the back up and good luck with the tp!!! Posted by daz231023
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underdog winning 9/10??? doubt that verrry much..
this is why we love poker... it is the same regardless of which site you play on or even live in the casino..
its pokerrrrrrr, if you dont like it, dont play it.. fed up of all the whingers
Is he one of the blokes people Don't like on the forum?
Ive just read thru the 2nd half of this thread and canny believe people have found faults with this post, clueless? If u disagree with any of the above, I believe its u guys who are clueless, and very much suspect that when it comes to poker, u are!
He sums it up well with the last line.
Why dont uze post some of the hands where you aren't happy with the lay against you, then instead of winging and moaning about beats, maybe theres things we can discuss within your play to try and stop them happening as often as they do. 40 plus posts discussing bad play?
DOHH
Yeh I agree Debs, thats why I dont understand the whole post, I havent really understood it from early on.
But theres issues of building a pot with a huge hand, slowplaying, betting to get value for the hands - All of these things can be looked at.
Theres a fine line between slow playing your hand to get value, and leaving youself open to outdraws.
Fair enough hands like AA V TT All in pre, and a ten coming, are just rank badbeats and theres not alot we can do about them.
thanks dohh for the back up and good luck with the tp!!!
Alright Daz - I had read past your msg, but saw some people having a pop at you so went bak to find it, read it, and was amazed, there wasnt anything bad about it at all! haha.
As for total player - That dream is ova now! lol Nice to get recognised tho, Ive played so poorly the last week or so, maybe thats what let me down, Im going against my own advice and moving down the levels for a few days (doubt that will last very long but ill find out tomorrow).
Ill have another crack at it next time its Matts turn to pick, gonna prove him wrong!
Btw Ive just read ur profile Daz and was in stitches.
One piece of poker advice : Patience, it doesn't really work though! haha lololol
I know what ya mean like. lol GL cya round
Dohx7 and Daz, love reading your comments.. In my view being passionate about something is never a bad thing so it's always interesting to see things from someone elses perspective. And as long as that perspective isn't inflammatory or derogatory then it is most welcome on this forum.
Dohx7 VWD on the total player recognition. Very well deserved IMO.
Fallenx I get what you are saying completely, I have had a few weeks of having to be a lot more cheerful on the site than I have felt due to the outcome of certain hands, tourneys and games. Obviously my role as Sky poker presenter means that I am essentially an ambassador for Sky Poker so must conduct myself as such. However as a poker player and one who plays pretty much every day on the site, I have to say that bad beats, nasty suckouts and river outdraws get me down as much as the next person. Especially when it happens for extended periods of time. Nobody is perfect right?!
But, at the end of the day it is a game and varience is impartial. Keep in mind that I and some of my colleagues play regularly on our own personal accounts with our own money more often than we play on our sky PTP accounts. So I take the hits to my BR as personally as anyone. Nobody likes bad beats or to be consistantly outdrawn. In poker it happens. It's not wrong or right but it is inevitable.
Wishing you luck in life and on the tables.
xLM
It is a fickle world and people like nothing more than having a good moan! lol
How long?? That's a good question! If you get sick of all the bad beats and outdraws then maybe poker isn't the game for you. They're always gonna happen and you can't do much about it i'm afraid! But if you're not enjoying it then there isn't much point in playing, it's supposed to be entertainment after all!
I don't mind people having a moan and xFALLENx I completely see where you're coming from which is why I relpied. I had two months where everytime I played it seemed I was at the wrong end of everything! I got through it but it does get you down. Hopefully you'll stay with it though because it really is a great game even with the muppets!
I think it was the way you gave your opinion that got them hot under the collar! I said very similar things earlier in this thread but I did it in a less confrontational manner! lol
Did you learn your posting skills from DOHHHHHHH? lol
BEEN READING ALL THE WONDERFUL ADVICE (VIA A FEW PPL ON HERE) AND TAKEN NOTE.....MY STORY LAST NIGHT....PLAYED IN TOURNY...AND WAS DOING OK.
THE CHIP LEADER (WHO IS ALWAYS ON MY TABLE....LOL) GOT BEAT WITH MUPPET CARDS AND HE HAD A GOOD OLD MOAN ABOUT IT.
AS I SAID I WAS DOING WELL BUT LOST A HUGE PART OF MY STACK 2 SURPRISE SURPRISE A RIVER WIN (SO SO SO TYPICAL).....SO I HAD 2 CHOOSE MY CARDS CAREFULLY AND GO ALLIN....AS BLINDS WERE LARGE.
THE CHIP LEADER CALLED MY ALLIN WITH 6 4!!!!!!
2 X 4 CAME DOWN SO HE GOT TRIPS AND KNOCKED ME OUT.
ANGER GOT THE BETTER AND I SAID 'WOW U CAN TALK....JOKE'
AND FUNNILY ENOUGH HE SAID NOTHING.
AND I SUSPECT HE FELT STUPID AS HE HAD COMPLAINED ABOUT THE VERY SAME THING HAPPENING 2 HIM.
SERIOUSLY WHAT IS THE POINT.
NEGATIVE FEEDBACK DONT BOTHER
What did u have?
K 10
the 6 4 he called me on wasnt 4 peanut either it was 6k.
Just came off poker thnking mayb he should practice what he preaches.
I kno I play correctly, what Im saying is more and more muppet chancers seem 2 b appearing and yes they ARE
winning with seriousy terrible hands.