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The Return of 68Trebor

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  • 68Trebor68Trebor Member Posts: 1,943
    This second hand is a big leak in my game and I am going to record it for posterity and to highlight to myself not to get in this situation again.
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    68TreborSmall blind£0.05£0.05£12.19
    Gav_ftmBig blind£0.10£0.15£22.02
    Your hole cards
    • A
    • 6
    H3nryRaise£0.30£0.45£10.39
    shakinacesCall£0.30£0.75£10.28
    captainCabFold
    mickiluvFold
    68TreborCall£0.25£1.00£11.94
    Gav_ftmFold
    Flop
    • 6
    • A
    • 2
    68TreborBet£0.75£1.75£11.19
    H3nryFold
    shakinacesCall£0.75£2.50£9.53
    Turn
    • 7
    68TreborBet£1.88£4.38£9.31
    shakinacesCall£1.88£6.26£7.65
    River
    • 5
    68TreborCheck
    shakinacesAll-in£7.65£13.91£0.00
    68TreborCall£7.65£21.56£1.66
    68TreborShow
    • A
    • 6
    shakinacesShow
    • K
    • A
    shakinacesWinFlush to the Ace£20.16£20.16
  • K0BAYASHlK0BAYASHl Member Posts: 2,028
    I think H3nry has mistaken his 7 for an A, He only plays Premiums!
  • 68Trebor68Trebor Member Posts: 1,943
    I do feel I am learning as a cash player and beginning to recognise and hopefully rule out my leaks. Two other leaks I believe I have is playing AQ out of position when facing a 3-bet pre-flop. I also think I am over valuing suited connectors out of position following a raise pre-flop.
    As everyone says POSITION IS KEY.

    Sky Poker MTT's Played = 366
    Total Profit = £1421.09
    Total ROI = 27.77%

    Cash Poker Hands Played = 15,125
    Total Profit = -£283.00
    BB/100 = -18.71

    Live Poker MTT's Played = 34
    Total Profit = £635
    Total ROI = 57.57%
  • Angmar2626Angmar2626 Member Posts: 886
    How do you know how many cash hands you've played, chum?
  • K0BAYASHlK0BAYASHl Member Posts: 2,028
    edited November 2017
    I wonder if he does hand history and does the amount of hands on one page x the how many pages in his sesh
  • 68Trebor68Trebor Member Posts: 1,943
    Actually do a rough estimate on assuming 75 hands per table per hour and go from there.
  • 68Trebor68Trebor Member Posts: 1,943
    Been focusing on the cash tables and basically breaking even for November on them. Have to say that I do not get the pleasure from playing cash as much as I do MTT's. For this reason I will be returning to the MTT tables tonight playing the following 4 events. £6k BH Sat at 6:40, £1k BH at 6:30, 7 at 7 and the £1k BH at 7:45. Here's hoping for a deep run, think I am due one!
    Villa go from strength to strength and have had a great week with 3 wins out of 3. This is even better than it looks when you take into account the current players out from injury. We now have a toughish looking December starting at Elland Road on Friday night. If we can get to the New Year in the same position as now and have some key players returning then next year maybe a very good one for the Villa.
    Work continues to get busier as the inevitable Christmas shoppers start to kick in. Already fed up of Christmas songs, Christmas jumpers and customers ringing every 5 mins to ask 'Have you got ........'


    Sky Poker MTT's Played = 376
    Total Profit = £1290.19
    Total ROI = 24.58%

    Cash Poker Hands Played = 16,875
    Total Profit = -£285.85
    BB/100 = -16.94%

    Live Poker MTT's Played = 34
    Total Profit = £635
    Total ROI = 57.57%
  • 68Trebor68Trebor Member Posts: 1,943
    Would appreciate any thoughts on the following hand. It is a situation I find myself in now and again and a hand that I need to obtain maximum value from. So how would you play it. If I flat there is the possibility of getting too many players into the pot, although there is also the possibility someone will jam behind us. If I jam do I lose the possibility of anyone coming along with me. If I play it as I do is it just unlucky I lost my customer. The only argument against playing it like I did is that it portrays real strength and I do think this is why the villain folded.
    Anyway here's the hand, how you playing it.
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    5ausagesSmall blind1000.001000.0060453.00
    GOONER72Big blind2000.003000.00165121.00
    Your hole cards
    • A
    • A
    heddoh18Raise4000.007000.00107413.00
    68TreborRaise10000.0017000.0031582.50
    chiggypigFold
    5ausagesFold
    GOONER72Fold
    heddoh18Fold
    68TreborMuck
    68TreborWin11000.0042582.50
    68TreborReturn6000.000.0048582.50
  • 68Trebor68Trebor Member Posts: 1,943
    On the plus side had a pretty decent evening on the tables last night with the highlight being that I successfully qualified for the £6k BH at 7:30pm through a sat and then went on to finish 12th for a return of over £120.


    Sky Poker MTT's Played = 381
    Total Profit = £1383.95
    Total ROI = 26.05%

    Cash Poker Hands Played = 16,875
    Total Profit = -£285.85
    BB/100 = -16.94%

    Live Poker MTT's Played = 34
    Total Profit = £635
    Total ROI = 57.57%
  • MattBatesMattBates Member Posts: 4,118
    68Trebor said:

    Would appreciate any thoughts on the following hand. It is a situation I find myself in now and again and a hand that I need to obtain maximum value from. So how would you play it. If I flat there is the possibility of getting too many players into the pot, although there is also the possibility someone will jam behind us. If I jam do I lose the possibility of anyone coming along with me. If I play it as I do is it just unlucky I lost my customer. The only argument against playing it like I did is that it portrays real strength and I do think this is why the villain folded.
    Anyway here's the hand, how you playing it.

    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    5ausagesSmall blind1000.001000.0060453.00
    GOONER72Big blind2000.003000.00165121.00
    Your hole cards
    • A
    • A
    heddoh18Raise4000.007000.00107413.00
    68TreborRaise10000.0017000.0031582.50
    chiggypigFold
    5ausagesFold
    GOONER72Fold
    heddoh18Fold
    68TreborMuck
    68TreborWin11000.0042582.50
    68TreborReturn6000.000.0048582.50
    Analysing this hand wont really help you all that much as we cant tell anything. You need to see the wider picture. How aggressive have you been? If you have 3b 4 of the last 5 hands then 3b is great. If Tikay has made a 3b more recent than you then flat may be better. Our opponents will put us on a range based on our actions. Often players moan about not getting action from their big hands but this is because they are playing too tight.
    Also you need to know what the table is playing like, if you have players behind that love to squeeze 3b then flat. If you do flat you don't have to get married to your hand if it goes 6 way to the flop and we get a terrible flop for our hand.
  • 68Trebor68Trebor Member Posts: 1,943
    edited December 2017
    As we move into the Festive Season properly, why do people put up their decs in November? I will give you all a quick resume of November. On the Cash front we played approx. 10k hands and made the tiniest loss of 1p. Yes that is correct one solitary penny. This is probably the reason why I keep returning to the MTT tables as playing 10k hands to break even just doesn't really rock my boat. Plus I do think the gambler in me takes over on the Cash tables sometimes and my temperament is more suited to MTT's. On the MTT front I played a total of 60 and recorded a loss of £180. This was slightly helped by 2 decent results on the 30th Nov where I managed a 3rd in a £750 BH and a 2nd in a £200 FO for a combined profit of £145.
    Whilst playing on 30th Nov I also had Adspro7 Twitch stream running in the corner of the screen and would recommend you all have a look at this as it certainly provides some entertainment whilst also promoting the site.
    Friday saw Villa draw at Elland Road, a result we would definitely not have achieved 12 months ago following a hammering in the first half. This game defined what Steve Bruce has bought to the table and should hopefully, once and for all, silence his detractors. In the end we were a tad unlucky not to run out winners but I would have definitely taken a point pre-match. Millwall at home on Saturday is now a game we have to win to keep the pressure on the teams ahead of us.
    Just wanted to say a quick thank you to the individual who invented the 'cash out' in betting as yet again you came to my rescue. Had a small wager on the football yesterday, just a £5 fivefold, and with 88mins on the clock cashed out for £82 instead of waiting for my £115. Great decision as Hull equalised in the 95th min to scupper my bet. Thank you to that innovative individual. Today I have re-invested with just a £2.49 fourfold on Southampton, Coventry, Luton and Blackburn -1 at odds of just over 12/1. Funny how I like to leave a round amount in my account, must be some mild form of OCD.
    Today is my last weekend day off until 5th January, retail is the new god, so going to take the Mrs out for a spot of dinner and will then be on the tables this afternoon. Would really like to have a go at the new PLO8 BH but think the starting time maybe a little late with work first thing in the morning, we will see how I feel later.

    Sky Poker MTT's Played = 404
    Total Profit = £1418.03
    Total ROI = 25.81%

    Cash Poker Hands Played = 16,875
    Total Profit = -£285.85
    BB/100 = -16.94%

    Live Poker MTT's Played = 34
    Total Profit = £635
    Total ROI = 57.57%
  • 68Trebor68Trebor Member Posts: 1,943
    Been a funny few days on the tables at SkyPoker. It started on Sunday night when I was lying in bed at 12:30am unable to get to sleep. To relieve the boredom I turned to my phone and somehow found myself on a 10p/20p PLO cash table. At that moment I had £33 in my account and through a combination of run good, bad play, playing way above my level (spent 10mins on a £1/£2 PLO table) I have now got the princely sum of £257 in my account. I have thoroughly enjoyed playing PLO cash and I am going to be focusing on these tables over the next few days but actually play at a reasonable level 5p/10p or 10p/20p depending on what is available. I will also be sticking to a maximum of 2 tables at a time. I will more than likely also add in the odd MTT along the way.
    So if anyone has any tips for the PLO cash tables please feel free to post.

    Sky Poker MTT's Played = 414
    Total Profit = £1296.90
    Total ROI = 22.91%

    NLHE Cash Poker Hands Played = 16,875
    Total Profit = -£285.85
    BB/100 = -16.94%

    Live Poker MTT's Played = 34
    Total Profit = £635
    Total ROI = 57.57%
  • 68Trebor68Trebor Member Posts: 1,943
    Currently on the poker front it is all very mehhhh. Having very quickly built up a few quid playing on the PLO cash tables I have managed to give it all back to the PLO cash game regulars. On the MTT front I just don't seem to be able to get anything going at the moment. I am constantly amazed at how the regular big winners on here, Scotty77, MattBates, Lollolllo, manage to keep on winning and seem to ride rough shot over variance. Would love to be able to spend just one evening watching and understanding their play. I will be returning to the 10nl cash tables for the next few days. Last month I managed to lose just 1p playing this format over the month and hope that I will be able to start to turn a profit now.
    Villa did what Villa do on Saturday, drawing at home to Millwall, and the Play-Offs are probably the realistic target for this season. Can't see us getting to the top 2 and to be honest would rather go up by the play-offs following a big day out at Wembley.
    Surprisingly we have missed the majority of snow this week and only had a light dusting, although it is extremely cold up north at the mo.
    Now on the run in at work and only 2 more weeks of ****, before we return to some sort of normality on Boxing Day before the really quiet months of January and February. The only problem then is that all the cost lines become harder to achieve as we are battling against a very low sales line. Never an easy day in retail!

    Sky Poker MTT's Played = 4147
    Total Profit = £1287.96
    Total ROI = 22.57%

    NLHE Cash Poker Hands Played = 16,875
    Total Profit = -£285.85
    BB/100 = -16.94%

    Live Poker MTT's Played = 34
    Total Profit = £635
    Total ROI = 57.57%
  • MattBatesMattBates Member Posts: 4,118
    Volume is a big reason. Looking at last month (I excluded sats) and games played was

    68trebor 47
    scotty 388
    MB 435
    lool 671

    Your games played for the year is 366 which is less than any of us played last month. It means the equivalent of a bad couple of weeks for one of us is months for you.
  • 68Trebor68Trebor Member Posts: 1,943
    MattBates said:

    Volume is a big reason. Looking at last month (I excluded sats) and games played was

    68trebor 47
    scotty 388
    MB 435
    lool 671

    Your games played for the year is 366 which is less than any of us played last month. It means the equivalent of a bad couple of weeks for one of us is months for you.

    Thanks for the reply Matt, and when you put it like that it does make sense.
    Whilst I have your attention would you mind me asking a few questions.

    Do you work or just play poker full-time?
    Do you play on other sites or solely SkyPoker?
    Do you ever dabble in Cash?
    Ever thought of doing a diary on here? I imagine it would be well .
  • stokefcstokefc Member Posts: 7,830
    MattBates said:

    Volume is a big reason. Looking at last month (I excluded sats) and games played was

    68trebor 47
    scotty 388
    MB 435
    lool 671

    Your games played for the year is 366 which is less than any of us played last month. It means the equivalent of a bad couple of weeks for one of us is months for you.

    thats an eye opener matt and Tikay keeps banging the drum about variance and volume being the key , knows his stuff doesn,t he
  • MattBatesMattBates Member Posts: 4,118
    68Trebor said:

    MattBates said:

    Volume is a big reason. Looking at last month (I excluded sats) and games played was

    68trebor 47
    scotty 388
    MB 435
    lool 671

    Your games played for the year is 366 which is less than any of us played last month. It means the equivalent of a bad couple of weeks for one of us is months for you.

    Thanks for the reply Matt, and when you put it like that it does make sense.
    Whilst I have your attention would you mind me asking a few questions.

    Do you work or just play poker full-time?
    Do you play on other sites or solely SkyPoker?
    Do you ever dabble in Cash?
    Ever thought of doing a diary on here? I imagine it would be well .
    I work full time but do play a lot of poker too.
    I do play on other sites but less volume on there in recent years, played around 400 non sky MTTs this year
    Hardly played any cash, odd live session and odd online one. Just don't really enjoy cash.
    I doubt my diary would be that exciting tbh, I did an "in the well" a while back.

    https://community.skypoker.com/discussion/125521/matt-bates-in-the-well
  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    MattBates said:

    68Trebor said:

    MattBates said:

    Volume is a big reason. Looking at last month (I excluded sats) and games played was

    68trebor 47
    scotty 388
    MB 435
    lool 671

    Your games played for the year is 366 which is less than any of us played last month. It means the equivalent of a bad couple of weeks for one of us is months for you.

    Thanks for the reply Matt, and when you put it like that it does make sense.
    Whilst I have your attention would you mind me asking a few questions.

    Do you work or just play poker full-time?
    Do you play on other sites or solely SkyPoker?
    Do you ever dabble in Cash?
    Ever thought of doing a diary on here? I imagine it would be well .
    I work full time but do play a lot of poker too.
    I do play on other sites but less volume on there in recent years, played around 400 non sky MTTs this year
    Hardly played any cash, odd live session and odd online one. Just don't really enjoy cash.
    I doubt my diary would be that exciting tbh, I did an "in the well" a while back.

    https://community.skypoker.com/discussion/125521/matt-bates-in-the-well

    Agreed.
  • 68Trebor68Trebor Member Posts: 1,943
    Been a tough couple of weeks at work so not played much due to lack of time and tiredness. Today is my first day off, apart from Christmas Day, in the last 3 weeks so I have spent it relaxing and recuperating. Spent Christmas Day at the Mother in Laws with my good lady. Our lad wanted to spend it with his girlfriend and my daughter was working at the pub where she's employed waitressing. Was a nice day, although it seemed quiet with no children involved and the highlight was seeing the Mother in Law's better half drinking far too much wine for a man of his age. Having worked over Christmas I get to have 3 days off at New Year and I am really looking forward to the mini break that will start with a masquerade ball at Leeds Royal Armouries, with 3 other couples, on New Year's Eve. I will then take a visit to the local hunt on New Year's Day, which whether you agree with it or not, is a spectacular part of Rural England and well worth a visit. No plans for the rest of the time off but I am sure it will involve drinking, poker, football, walking and eating out.
    Since my last post Villa have gone on a complete nosedive and I have real concerns over whether we will even make the play-offs now. We desperately need to get back to winning ways quickly but with the recent performances I can't see this starting at Middlesboro on Saturday. We then have tough games at home to Bristol City and away at Forest before starting on what, at least on paper, looks a relatively easy run, if there is such a thing in The Championship. The 'Bruce Out' brigade are starting to find their voice again and this will only continue to grow unless something changes. The frustrating part is that on paper we possess some of the best, and most experienced, individual players in The Championship but Bruce cannot seem to get them to play as a team and seems more worried about losing than winning. The problem is that if Bruce goes who do we get in and then we start all over again. In my opinion there is no manager out there, who is available or we could prise away, that would necessarily do a better job. Expect us to sign a striker in the transfer window and with JT getting back to fitness that will help. But to me the problem is in the middle of the park, where Bruce seems to play far too defensively with Jedinak and Whelan his preferred starters and Lansbury, Hourianne, Grealish, Adomah, Green, Onomah fighting for the other positions. In my view he needs to play Jedinak in front of Terry and Chester and then 4 of the aforementioned six behind Kodja, when fit, and in the meantime Davis or the possible new signing. Here's hoping Bruce starts picking a more offensive team and we get that much needed win at The Riverside on Saturday.
    On the poker front I will be playing three UKOPS events tonight, namely UKOPS 9 and 11 and the 6pm £15k BH Semi. The good news is that SPT Manchester falls on my weekend off and is also the start of a weeks holiday so I am intending to play in this event and break my SPT duck.

    Sky Poker MTT's Played = 447
    Total Profit = £1311.59
    Total ROI = 21.73%

    NLHE Cash Poker Hands Played = 17,175
    Total Profit = -£271.92
    BB/100 = -15.83%

    Live Poker MTT's Played = 34
    Total Profit = £635
    Total ROI = 57.57%
  • 68Trebor68Trebor Member Posts: 1,943

    At long last I have a day off! In the last 3 weeks only had Christmas Day and the Thursday before Christmas off (spent Christmas shopping) so not been playing much poker. Good news is that because I worked over Christmas I get to have a 3 day break from New Year's Day to rest and recuperate. Really looking forward to this and particularly New Year's Eve when Our Lass and I, along with 3 other couples, are off to the Royal Armouries in Leeds for the New Year's Eve Masquerade Ball. On New Year's Day I will be taking a walk to see the local hunt starting at Emley Moor. Whether you agree with it or not it is a spectacular site to see the hunt charging across rural Yorkshire. The rest of the mini break will be a combination of drinking, eating out, football, poker and walking.
    Since my last post Villa have took a real nosedive and now find themselves outside the play-off positions and I am beginning to face up to the fact that we may not even qualify for them. The problem is that Bruce seems intent on not losing rather than winning and is sticking to his style of playing two defensive midfielders in the form of Jedinak and Whelan rather than playing a more progressive game which we should be more than capable of when you look at the players we have on the books. Surely we should be playing Jedinak as the holding midfielder and then a combination of Lansbury, Hourianne, Snodgrass, Grealish, Adomah, Onomah, Green behind a front man. Two players we have missed through injury are Terry, should be back soon, and Kodja, out for the long term. Hopefully we will invest in a striker in January as we have relied heavily on Davis, who in his breakthrough season and at the age of 19, really needs a rest. The other worry is that the 'Bruce Out' party is gathering support and this can only lead to more negativity and nervousness around Villa Park. We have three tough games coming up Boro away, Bristol City home and then Forest away. If we were not to win at least one of these the knives will definitely be getting sharpened and the bad times maybe about to return.
    On the poker front I will be playing a few UKOPS tonight and I am delighted to say that I should be attending the SPT at Manchester as it falls on my weekend off.

    Sky Poker MTT's Played = 447
    Total Profit = £1311.59
    Total ROI = 21.73%

    NLHE Cash Poker Hands Played = 17,175
    Total Profit = -£271.92
    BB/100 = -15.83%

    Live Poker MTT's Played = 34
    Total Profit = £635
    Total ROI = 57.57%
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