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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 34,726

    'Delusional', 'shocking' or 'sensible'? Politicians no less divided after Therese May's confidence vote result


    Andrew Bridgen, one of the Prime Minister’s most ardent Tory critics, said his colleagues had “just kicked the can down the road” - echoing the sentiment of arch Brexiteer Jacob Rees-Mogg that, despite her win, Mrs May should resign.
    Former UKIP leader Nigel Farage posted: “Mrs May limps on to her next failure, the deal won’t pass and the real crisis is close.”

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brexit/delusional-shocking-or-sensible-politicians-no-less-divided-after-therese-mays-confidence-vote-result/ar-BBQSq9j?ocid=spartandhp
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 34,726
    What is a no-deal Brexit?


    What is a no-deal Brexit?
    At its most basic level, a no-deal Brexit would see the UK leave the EU without any new formalised arrangements covering crucial issues including trade, migration, border control and even flights across the English channel. It’s feared that there would also be no transition period, leading to a so-called “cliff edge” for businesses that would struggle to adapt to a new trading environment with the EU from the end of March 2019.
    Many consider this to be a worst-case scenario. The Bank of England warned last month that the UK economy could shrink by about 8% within a year if there’s no deal and no transition period. That fall would be the worst the country has seen in roughly 100 years. The pound would crash, inflation would spike and house prices could fall by about one-third in this scenario.


    https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/no-deal-brexit-163627436.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 34,726


    Why is a no-deal Brexit so bad?
    It all comes down to context.
    The UK currently enjoys frictionless trade with the other 27 EU countries, with a so-called “customs union” ensuring goods can flow between the nations without any restrictions, tariffs or customs checks. These nations operate as a single trading zone and impose tariffs on goods from countries outside their customs union, but once the items come in, they move around freely.
    Leaving the EU without a new deal would mean the re-imposition of border checks and tariffs between both sides; a potentially disastrous situation for UK-based companies like car manufacturers who depend on moving their components across EU borders. Roughly 44% of all UK exports go to the EU each year, and more than 50% of its imports come from the bloc. Any slowdown at the border threatens to cause major factory shutdowns.

    The UK is also part of the EU’s “single market,” which allows for the free movement of goods, along with services, investment and EU citizens. This could be likened to a free trade deal on steroids. As it stands now, a German doctor can move to the UK and find work in his field without any restrictions. A British firm can seamlessly provide banking services to Italian businesses without any issues.
    This EU single market requires the harmonisation and standardisation of regulations across member nations, covering areas like product safety and environmental protection. This eases trade and ensures common standards.

    In a no-deal scenario, British businesses could be immediately shut out of providing services to their European partners and money would not be able to flow seamlessly across borders. Plus, Brits living in the EU, along with Europeans living in the UK, could run into a range of problems related to their legal status.
    If there’s no deal, the UK is expected to revert to World Trade Organization (WTO) trading rules, leading to a flurry of new customs checks, paperwork and tariffs at the borders, slowing down imports and exports of items including car parts, fresh food and smartphones.
    The UK would also be ejected from all the EU’s previously agreed free trade deals and treaties with outside nations, including the newly minted trade deals with Canada and Japan.



    https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/no-deal-brexit-163627436.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 34,726
    Political fallout after May wins vote

    Conservative MP Ed Vaizey says he does not believe Theresa May can get any changes to her Brexit deal from Brussels.
    "This is an amazing deal. It’s not going to be reopened," he tells BBC Breakfast.
    “If the Archangel Gabriel arrived tomorrow with the deal from heaven, the Brexiteers would still find something wrong with it.”














    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-46533245
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 34,726
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 34,726
    edited December 2018
    What are the chances of a second referendum?








    Theresa May has insisted there will be no second EU referendum – but yesterday’s leadership challenge has seemingly made one more likely

    She will now address EU leaders at the two-day European Council with one burning question at the forefront of her mind: how can she convince the EU to tweak the Withdrawal Agreement?
    And the chances of that are appear to be getting more remote. According to bookies William Hill, the odds of a second referendum by the end of 2020 have now shortened to 1/1, compared to 8/11 of no second vote.
    And while Mrs May managed to cling on to power in Wednesday’s confidence vote, her position as leader remains precarious, with odds of her leaving office in 2019 now standing at 1/3 from 4/6.

    ‘Ominously for the Prime Minister the price of both a second referendum and Article 50 being revoked have shortened considerably.’


    The odds come following news that young voters in Leave-voting Labour marginals support a second referendum by more than three to one, according to a new poll published by campaigners.



    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/odds-second-brexit-referendum-now-1-1-theresa-may-scrapes-leadership-vote-084205998.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 34,726
    What are the chances of a second referendum?




    The Government chaos around their handling of Brexit has made a second vote more likely, according to bookies

    Polling in 54 marginal Labour seats which voted to quit the EU in 2016 suggested that 66% of 25-34-year-olds back a second referendum, compared to 20% who oppose it.
    Among 18-24-year-olds, 66% favour a second vote, with 20% opposed, according to the ICM survey of 1,535 people aged 18-34, published by Labour for a People’s Vote.

    The most recent national YouGov poll showed 53% of 18-24-year-olds support a fresh EU poll, with 16% against it. Among 25-49-year-olds, 46% support another vote, with 27% opposed.

    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/odds-second-brexit-referendum-now-1-1-theresa-may-scrapes-leadership-vote-084205998.html
  • tomgooduntomgoodun Member Posts: 3,750
    Kenneth Clarke was interviewed on Radio 4 prior to the no confidence vote, the subject of who could take over was broached and Boris Johnson was mentioned, Mr Clarke said “ I wouldn’t trust that man to run a whelk stall”
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 34,726
    edited December 2018
    They Shouldn't let Labour MPs on the telly.

    Firstly, they have their 6 tests which their own Barry Gardner described as b0ll0cks.

    Secondly, they want a General Election, but wont move for a no confidence vote in the Government, yet. Even though the clock is ticking on Brexit.

    Thirdly, they will honour the result of the referendum, but if they cant get a General Election, they will call for a second one.

    How can you do both?


    Lastly, the list of stuff they think that can negotiate with The EU, resembles a childs letter to Santa.

    The Government is in chaos, and Labour is still behind in the polls.

    They are completely ineffective and incompetent.

    Do they even understand the role of the opposition.

    They are undeniably familiar with gibberish.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 34,726
    edited December 2018
    tomgoodun said:

    Kenneth Clarke was interviewed on Radio 4 prior to the no confidence vote, the subject of who could take over was broached and Boris Johnson was mentioned, Mr Clarke said “ I wouldn’t trust that man to run a whelk stall”



    I am not sure I would trust him to work on a whelk stall, never mind run it.

    If he ever had a chance, it has long gone.


    Sajid Javid is grass root Tories' favourite to replace May after she vows to step down by 2022


    Home Secretary Sajid Javid is favourite with the Tory faithful to succeed Theresa May, with Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt in second place – and Boris Johnson well down the field.

    According to the survey of Conservative councillors, Home Secretary Mr Javid is the Party's first choice to replace Mrs May.
    He is followed by Mr Hunt and former Brexit Secretary Dominic Raab.

    Surprisingly, Mr Johnson, Mrs May's most prominent critic, trails in seventh place.

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brexit/sajid-javid-is-grass-root-tories-favourite-to-replace-may-after-she-vows-to-step-down-by-2022/ar-BBQSt2V?ocid=spartandhp
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 34,726
    Brexit drags UK property market to weakest level in six years

    The UK property market is at its weakest for six years as worries about Brexit reduce demand, according to a survey of surveyors.

    https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/brexit-drags-uk-property-market-115100025.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 34,726
    Gary Lineker calls out Peter Shilton as England legends clash over Brexit

    England's legends have clashed over Brexit with Gary Lineker taking aim at former teammate Peter Shilton.
    Lineker has been particularly vocal over his political views and heavily criticised Brexit on social media.






    The row escalated to involve former teammates Peter Reid and Chris Waddle.
    Shilton took to social media on Wednesday night to hail the Conservative party and in particular MP Jacob Rees-Mogg.
    "He really knows what he is talking about and puts it across in a calm and calculated manner," said England's all-time leading appearance-maker.
    Shilton was criticised by fans on Twitter after the post and Match of the Day presenter Lineker also responded.
    He posted: "What’s that old saying? You should never see a tweet from your heroes?"

    They weren't the only former players to get involved with Chris Waddle and Peter Reid, who were in the 1986 squad with Lineker and Shilton, sharing their respective views on Brexit.

    Reid also responded to Shilton's tweet, posting: "I’ll agree to disagree on that one Goalie.
    "He’s loopy, doesn’t know his a*** from his elbow."






    Earlier on Wednesday, he posted: "Imagine how hopeless you’d have to be to still be behind the Tory party in the polls. The absolute state of our politics."







    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/news/gary-lineker-calls-out-peter-shilton-as-england-legends-clash-over-brexit/ar-BBQTzNu?ocid=spartanntp
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 34,726
    Brexit chaos to continue over Christmas as Theresa May warns of no 'immediate breakthrough’


    The political crisis over the Brexit deal looks set to continue over Christmas after the prime minister played down hopes of securing a quick fix during crunch talks with European leaders today.

    https://uk.yahoo.com/finance/news/theresa-may-not-hopeful-immediate-breakthrough-eu-brexit-deal-135531910.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 34,726
    Brexit: Crunch vote on Theresa May's deal definitely not held before Christmas

    Theresa May has confirmed that a fresh commons showdown over her Brexit deal will not take place before Christmas.
    Downing Street said the ‘meaningful vote’ on the Withdrawal Agreement she has agreed with the EU would not now be brought to parliament until January.
    It came as Ms May’s party tore itself apart in the aftermath of the botched coup by Brexiteers to overthrow the prime minister, and as she attended a summit in Brussels in a bid to win new concessions from the EU.

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/brexit-crunch-vote-on-theresa-mays-deal-definitely-not-held-before-christmas/ar-BBQV3Xd?ocid=spartandhp
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 34,726
    Labour And DUP Hold Talks As Jeremy Corbyn Plots Brexit No Confidence Motion 'Before Christmas'


    Talks between the DUP and Labour to find “common ground” are taking place “at a senior level” as Jeremy Corbyn’s party mulls triggering a no-confidence motion in the government before Christmas, HuffPost UK understands.
    After Theresa May survived a bid to topple her leadership by Tory backbench rebels, it emerged her whole government could be facing a new threat as the opposition plots a confidence challenge as early as next week.
    It is understood a meeting between the DUP, which props up her government, and Labour has taken place “at a senior level” in a move which threatens to blow apart the supply and confidence motion the Northern Irish party struck with May in the wake of her disastrous general election.



    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brexit/labour-and-dup-hold-talks-as-jeremy-corbyn-plots-brexit-no-confidence-motion-before-christmas/ar-BBQTg3Z?ocid=spartandhp
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 34,726
    Daniel Hannan's MEP group told to repay half a million in EU funds

    A European conservative group co-founded by the Tories and led by Brexit campaigner and MEP Daniel Hannan has been asked to repay more than half a million euros of EU funds following an investigation into their spending, the Guardian has learned.





    In a rare negative finding touching a British political party in government, European parliament senior leaders on Monday night ordered the Alliance of Conservatives and Reformists in Europe (ACRE) to repay €535,609 (£484,367) of EU funds.
    The group will be denied a further €187,245, which had been withheld pending investigation. A formal demand for repayment will be issued to the ACRE next week, following a decision taken behind closed doors by the parliament’s top leaders on Monday.

    Hannan, who has championed Brexit for more than a quarter of a century and was ACRE’s secretary-general until December 2017

    Among parliament’s objections was €250,000 spent on a three-day event at a luxury beach resort in Miami. While the keynote speaker was listed as former Spanish prime minister, José María Aznar, the conference had “an almost exclusively American audience”, the parliament found, with an agenda that hardly mentioned the EU.
    It also questioned €90,000 spent on a trade ‘summit’ at a five-star hotel on the shores of Lake Victoria in Kampala, where a largely British delegation met African delegates to discuss post-Brexit trade.

    The parliament also objected to €108,985 spent on polling British black and Asian voters ahead of the 2017 general elections. Under EU law, EU funds cannot be used to finance national campaigns.
    For similar reasons, €122,295 spent on a “UK Trade Partnerships” conference in March 2017 was judged ineligible, because the event was deemed to be promoting the UK’s economic interests.

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/daniel-hannans-mep-group-told-to-repay-half-a-million-in-eu-funds/ar-BBQUhWF?ocid=spartandhp
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 34,726
    I am expecting to see some ERG members on Sky news tomorrow complaining about a forum ban.
    I can only assume that the pm from Tikay, is on its way, after they hit back at The Chancellor by referring to him as "a complete moron", this was subsequent to him describing them as "extremists".









    Civil war breaks out among Tories as Chancellor is branded a 'moron' for calling Brexiteers extremists




    The Tories erupted in civil war on Thursday as Chancellor Philip Hammond was branded “a complete moron” for referring to Eurosceptic colleagues as “extremists” and Brexiteer MPs vowed to block the passage of the Government’s withdrawal agreement into law.
    Within hours of Theresa May winning a vote of no confidence, Conservative in-fighting spilled out into the open, with Mr Hammond referred to as a “t---” and an unnamed minister reported to have bragged: “I’d like to punch the ERG in the face”, a reference to the European Research Group of Eurosceptic MPs which led Wednesday’s attempted coup.
    Hardcore Tory leavers are now threatening to “disrupt” Mrs May’s Brexit legislation if she does not return...




    https://www.rt.com/uk/446363-hammond-mogg-extremists-brexit/
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 34,726
    edited December 2018
    Brexit: EU says no to May on renegotiating deal






    European Union leaders have said the Brexit withdrawal agreement is "not open for renegotiation", after appeals from Theresa May.
    She wants legal assurances on the Irish backstop to help her deal get through Parliament, after she delayed a Commons vote in anticipation of defeat.
    The PM said the deal was "at risk" if MPs' concerns could not be addressed.

    More
    Theresa May’s demands for reassurances on the Irish backstop “were not really clear” when she spoke to EU leaders last night, according to a diplomatic note of the summit seen by the BBC. (1)




    'Crisis mode'
    Downing Street has confirmed MPs will not now vote on Mrs May's deal before Christmas, and said the vote would happen "as soon as possible in January".
    The Labour former PM Tony Blair told the BBC he believed a majority of MPs in the Commons would back another referendum on Brexit, if Parliament could not agree on another way forward:
    "I think that will happen if it is clear that there is no majority for any one form of Brexit," he told Radio 4's Today.
    "We have had 30 months of negotiation and let's be clear - we are in crisis mode on


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46560807
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 34,726
    Jonathan Agnew Blasts Fellow BBC Presenter Gary Lineker For Getting Political On Twitter Over Brexit





    Jonathan Agnew has scolded ‘Match Of The Day’ presenter Gary Lineker, tweeting that he should “observe BBC editorial guidelines and keep your political views to yourself”.
    The former footballer has made no secret of views on Brexit and Theresa May in recent weeks and seemingly unimpressed, Test Match Special host Agnew told him: “I’d be sacked if I followed your example.”

    https://uk.yahoo.com/sports/news/jonathan-agnew-blasts-fellow-bbc-181133088.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 34,726



    The tweet seemed to be in response to a series of tweets written by Lineker on Wednesday, as the Conservatives held a no-confidence vote in Theresa May.
    “Extraordinary to watch us take our country back and rip it to shreds in the process,” he wrote in one tweet. Another was a retweet of David Cameron’s calls for the Conservative party to back the prime minister, which Lineker shared with crying-with-laughter emojis.
    Jonathan, I’m the face of my own Twitter account. I’ll continue to tweet what I like and if folk disagree with me then so be it. Thank you so much for your concern, which, I imagine, wouldn’t be a concern at all if you agreed with me.

    Lineker was not the only sports star to come under fire for expressing his political views on social media this week. Former England cricket captain Michael Vaughan tweeted on Wednesday, as Conservatives were preparing to vote on May’s leadership: “Give me a Donald Trump style leader over any of our leaders any day of the week”.


    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/cricket/gary-lineker-criticised-by-jonathan-agnew-for-political-brexit-tweets/ar-BBQVGDU?ocid=spartanntp
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