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Diary of a determined player

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  • peter27peter27 Member Posts: 1,634
    Hand from that ^ tournament.

    Do you fold here?

    Ante 1250 / SB 5k / BB 10k.

    I raise from UTG+1 to 25k with ATo.
    Called by SB.
    Flop A74 rainbow.
    SB bets 1/2 pot (33k).
    I call.
    Turn is 5.
    SB bets 1/2 pot (66k).
    I call.
    River is 6. No flushes possible.
    SB shoves remaining 277k.
    Our stack is 461k.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 169,199
    peter27 said:

    peter27 said:

    I appreciate those message and will reply in the next few days, but as I've not got much time right now, I wanted to post this.

    https://www.dusktilldawncasinonottingham.com/dtd150

    A 6 max, turbo event, that's right up my street! I feel like I have to play this.

    Okay, I can now stop moaning. Bought into "Online Day 1B" of this event for £165 making it one of the biggest tournaments I have played.

    Got some good hands, got value from them, and finished 2nd overall which gets me into the 50k GTD live day two at DTD. I'll be taking a chipstack of around 930k into day two, which is about 78 blinds. The good news is that everyone who reaches day two gets at least a min cash, which I believe is £300. The bad news is that I have yet to do well - or even cash - in a live event. Therefore, I'm not expecting much from Sunday. Nevertheless, I have a healthy stack and the blind levels are 30 minutes each, so I can play tight and pick my spots.
    Great news Peter, well done, & good luck on Sunday.

    Let us know how it goes please.
  • CammykazeCammykaze Member Posts: 1,397


    I do think I have a good handle on whether or not I'm playing well/badly compared to getting lucky/unlucky. It just so happens at the moment that I'm consistently getting to showdowns ahead, but not winning the majority of my run outs. That being said, the last few days has seen things get slightly better. Still quite bad, but an improvement. I do feel like I am playing well though.
    peter27 said:

    Hand from that ^ tournament.

    Do you fold here?

    Ante 1250 / SB 5k / BB 10k.

    I raise from UTG+1 to 25k with ATo.
    Called by SB.
    Flop A74 rainbow.
    SB bets 1/2 pot (33k).
    I call.
    Turn is 5.
    SB bets 1/2 pot (66k).
    I call.
    River is 6. No flushes possible.
    SB shoves remaining 277k.
    Our stack is 461k.

    How many seated at table?

    I would fold the river by default. Can't fold to opponents flop or turn bets of course, the river shove is really 4x the pot? Massive overbet that! A8 makes sense for opponent given the betting pattern although we would need to open up his range.

    How has he/she been playing? Is opponent prone to overbets?
  • CammykazeCammykaze Member Posts: 1,397
    Cammykaze said:

    I do think I have a good handle on whether or not I'm playing well/badly compared to getting lucky/unlucky. It just so happens at the moment that I'm consistently getting to showdowns ahead, but not winning the majority of my run outs. That being said, the last few days has seen things get slightly better. Still quite bad, but an improvement. I do feel like I am playing well though.
    peter27 said:

    Hand from that ^ tournament.

    Do you fold here?

    Ante 1250 / SB 5k / BB 10k.

    I raise from UTG+1 to 25k with ATo.
    Called by SB.
    Flop A74 rainbow.
    SB bets 1/2 pot (33k).
    I call.
    Turn is 5.
    SB bets 1/2 pot (66k).
    I call.
    River is 6. No flushes possible.
    SB shoves remaining 277k.
    Our stack is 461k.

    How many seated at table?

    I would fold the river by default. Can't fold to opponents flop or turn bets of course, the river shove is really 4x the pot? Massive overbet that! A8 makes sense for opponent given the betting pattern although we would need to open up his range.

    How has he/she been playing? Is opponent prone to overbets?

    I have misread the pot size. The bet is roughly pot size if I'm now reading it right. Tough decision this. Any reads (live or otherwise) on opponent?
  • peter27peter27 Member Posts: 1,634
    Tikay10 said:

    peter27 said:

    peter27 said:

    I appreciate those message and will reply in the next few days, but as I've not got much time right now, I wanted to post this.

    https://www.dusktilldawncasinonottingham.com/dtd150

    A 6 max, turbo event, that's right up my street! I feel like I have to play this.

    Okay, I can now stop moaning. Bought into "Online Day 1B" of this event for £165 making it one of the biggest tournaments I have played.

    Got some good hands, got value from them, and finished 2nd overall which gets me into the 50k GTD live day two at DTD. I'll be taking a chipstack of around 930k into day two, which is about 78 blinds. The good news is that everyone who reaches day two gets at least a min cash, which I believe is £300. The bad news is that I have yet to do well - or even cash - in a live event. Therefore, I'm not expecting much from Sunday. Nevertheless, I have a healthy stack and the blind levels are 30 minutes each, so I can play tight and pick my spots.
    Great news Peter, well done, & good luck on Sunday.

    Let us know how it goes please.
    I've actually been feeling really unwell all weekend and might not even go, I'll see how I feel in the next few hours. Tournament begins at 17:00.
  • peter27peter27 Member Posts: 1,634
    peter27 said:

    Tikay10 said:

    peter27 said:

    peter27 said:

    I appreciate those message and will reply in the next few days, but as I've not got much time right now, I wanted to post this.

    https://www.dusktilldawncasinonottingham.com/dtd150

    A 6 max, turbo event, that's right up my street! I feel like I have to play this.

    Okay, I can now stop moaning. Bought into "Online Day 1B" of this event for £165 making it one of the biggest tournaments I have played.

    Got some good hands, got value from them, and finished 2nd overall which gets me into the 50k GTD live day two at DTD. I'll be taking a chipstack of around 930k into day two, which is about 78 blinds. The good news is that everyone who reaches day two gets at least a min cash, which I believe is £300. The bad news is that I have yet to do well - or even cash - in a live event. Therefore, I'm not expecting much from Sunday. Nevertheless, I have a healthy stack and the blind levels are 30 minutes each, so I can play tight and pick my spots.
    Great news Peter, well done, & good luck on Sunday.

    Let us know how it goes please.
    I've actually been feeling really unwell all weekend and might not even go, I'll see how I feel in the next few hours. Tournament begins at 17:00.
    I decided to drag myself there, despite having no hopes of getting further than a mid-cash. Boy did that turn out to be a good decision on my part.

    I started off the tournament making a lot of fundamental errors which I'm putting down to an inexperience of live tournaments. However, as the game progressed, and I began to feel increasingly comfortable, I started to improve dramatically. Luck wise, it wasn't bad either - certainly much better than of late on Sky Poker.

    Hitting the next pay jump really settled any nerves and as one chap had about 50% of all chips in play with everyone else relatively equal, I decided to play fairly tight and be particularly selective with my spots - but super aggressive when I had the hand. I figured this would be the best strategy to jump up the prize money table.

    The players quickly fell, and before I knew it, I was on the final table - with the third highest stack too. Ran really well on that final table (which was seven handed by the way) and knocked out a few players. Pretty quickly, I was heads-up against the chap who had all the chips. I played super aggressive at this stage, and it was seemingly working as I pulled back to having a good 45% of the total chips, having started on about 20%.

    I felt like I had the advantage over the opposition on reads and strategy. It's worth noting that we shared a table at the start of the tournament when I was making a lot of errors and unusual plays - and because of this I don't think he had a good read on my play. He stated that he had been awake since 8AM the previous morning (so well over 36 hours) which was bizarre. Anyhow, after I won a big hand he requested to discuss a deal - which we eventually agreed to. This felt fair, I was certainly more confident at the time, but he did have a larger stack so I was happy. Ended up walking away with £7855 for 2nd place.

    https://www.dusktilldawncasinonottingham.com/tournament-results/11114

    My SharkScope graph is looking terrible at the moment, but with that profit, I am certainly considerably up now.

    Poker is a weird game. I've gone from considering throwing the towel in to falling in love with the game again in the space of a week.

    Great experience, I learned a lot about live tournament strategy, and a lot about my own preferences and tenancies post-flop.

    Cammy, I know I still owe you a reply.
  • CammykazeCammykaze Member Posts: 1,397
    What a score! VWP!
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,739
    Well done.

    Poker is a frustrating, yet wonderful, game.
  • TheEdge949TheEdge949 Member Posts: 5,679
    Yes,yes and thrice yes. Great score. I am genuinely pleased for you as I know you weren't too sure about playing live.

    Congrats
  • MynaFrettMynaFrett Member Posts: 750
    That's huge! Well done.
  • waller02waller02 Member Posts: 9,070
    Nice one Peter, great result.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 169,199

    Brilliant stuff, made up for you Peter, very well done m8.

    Think you are coming along really well. I've thought for some time that you have the makings of a very good player indeed, as you take on board constructive comments very well.

    Think you jut have to conquer the mental game now, where I think you still struggle.

    Early days you went on an insane run in Turbo DYM's, & we all knew it was unsustainable. When we go on runs like that we all think we are the GOAT, & understandably.

    Then you were introduced to the mean side of variance, & you got really down about it.

    You just need to accept that poker does this, it flip flop both ways, & we should always look at the wider picture.

    You'll be a long-term winner once you sort your head out. You will.

    Well done mate.

  • peter27peter27 Member Posts: 1,634
    edited June 2019
    Thanks for the kind words all. It really does feel like a big milestone; I have proven that I can do it live! I'm now really looking forward to the six-max tournament tomorrow at DTD :)

    Obviously I have been reflecting on my play in that tournament, and I think one of the keys to my success was that I was consciously tightening up my range against players who I identified as strong. I'm not sure if this is the right approach though? I suppose on the flip side we should be widening our range against weaker players, so maybe it makes sense?

    Also, at one point on my opening table, a discussion began about my relative lack of live experience and I mentioned that 95% of my play is done on Sky Poker. The players around the table seemed to agree that Sky is a "weak" site. So, I'm sorry to inform you that you're all terrible players :D
    Cammykaze said:

    Cammykaze said:

    How many seated at table?

    I would fold the river by default. Can't fold to opponents flop or turn bets of course, the river shove is really 4x the pot? Massive overbet that! A8 makes sense for opponent given the betting pattern although we would need to open up his range.

    How has he/she been playing? Is opponent prone to overbets?

    I have misread the pot size. The bet is roughly pot size if I'm now reading it right. Tough decision this. Any reads (live or otherwise) on opponent?
    Six at the table, and had no reads on the opponent (had only been on that table for a couple of hands).

    I did indeed fold, so I'll never know what they had. Interesting spot though.
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,739
    I've heard from lots of players that Sky is a "weak" site, player-wise, for years.
    If that was true, then there would be a flood of players seeking to take advantage, cos that is the way poker works. Doesn't happen, so there is your answer.

    I play/have played just about everywhere. In terms of difficulty, I would say there are 3 bands for poker:-

    1. Stars/Party are currently the toughest;
    2. Every other poker site
    3. Live. Full of players deluding themselves they are better than they are
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 169,199

    @peter27

    Can't give you any poker advice, but I agree with @Essexphil as to this;

    "Also, at one point on my opening table, a discussion began about my relative lack of live experience and I mentioned that 95% of my play is done on Sky Poker. The players around the table seemed to agree that Sky is a "weak" site."

    My advice would be that the tendencies of poker players is to submit to "group-think".

    The alpha-male says "Sky Poker is weak", "Danny Negreanu is evil", "The RNG on Wm Hill is dodgy but it's fine on Bet365" (they don't realise it's the same platform & RNG....), And then everyone else, sheep-like, says the same thing.

    So in poker, you have to challenge these statements, ignore the usual rhetoric, & and think for yourself. You'll be a better player for it too.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 169,199
    Essexphil said:

    I've heard from lots of players that Sky is a "weak" site, player-wise, for years.
    If that was true, then there would be a flood of players seeking to take advantage, cos that is the way poker works
    . Doesn't happen, so there is your answer.

    I play/have played just about everywhere. In terms of difficulty, I would say there are 3 bands for poker:-

    1. Stars/Party are currently the toughest;
    2. Every other poker site
    3. Live. Full of players deluding themselves they are better than they are

    There would be - literally - millions of players on Sky Poker if it were really that weak. That would correct the weakness, so another site would become weak - & everyone would move there.

    It's a self-balancing mechanism.

    But don't tell the sheep who have not bothered to think it through, let them indulge themselves in their own ignorance.
  • MattBatesMattBates Member Posts: 4,118
    Tikay10 said:

    Essexphil said:

    I've heard from lots of players that Sky is a "weak" site, player-wise, for years.
    If that was true, then there would be a flood of players seeking to take advantage, cos that is the way poker works
    . Doesn't happen, so there is your answer.

    I play/have played just about everywhere. In terms of difficulty, I would say there are 3 bands for poker:-

    1. Stars/Party are currently the toughest;
    2. Every other poker site
    3. Live. Full of players deluding themselves they are better than they are

    There would be - literally - millions of players on Sky Poker if it were really that weak. That would correct the weakness, so another site would become weak - & everyone would move there.

    It's a self-balancing mechanism.

    But don't tell the sheep who have not bothered to think it through, let them indulge themselves in their own ignorance.
    Is a number of factors as to why players pick a site though it isn't just about ability of the other players.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 169,199
    MattBates said:

    Tikay10 said:

    Essexphil said:

    I've heard from lots of players that Sky is a "weak" site, player-wise, for years.
    If that was true, then there would be a flood of players seeking to take advantage, cos that is the way poker works
    . Doesn't happen, so there is your answer.

    I play/have played just about everywhere. In terms of difficulty, I would say there are 3 bands for poker:-

    1. Stars/Party are currently the toughest;
    2. Every other poker site
    3. Live. Full of players deluding themselves they are better than they are

    There would be - literally - millions of players on Sky Poker if it were really that weak. That would correct the weakness, so another site would become weak - & everyone would move there.

    It's a self-balancing mechanism.

    But don't tell the sheep who have not bothered to think it through, let them indulge themselves in their own ignorance.
    Is a number of factors as to why players pick a site though it isn't just about ability of the other players.
    Also true, most players don't even consider whether a site is perceived to be weak or strong, they sign up for some completely unconnected reason, having, say, used the Sport Book or whatever.

    My main point holds true though - don't listen to the herd, think for yourself.
  • GREGSTERGREGSTER Member Posts: 384
    Excellent result Peter, very well done.

    The whole 'sky is weak' thing makes me laugh a bit. You should of asked how much each of those identifying sky as weak had made on sky over the years then and what there alias's are. As others have said if it was that weak there would be lots of players turning up to try and print money.
  • SidV79SidV79 Member Posts: 4,127
    Brilliant result Peter and well deserved. Keep up the good work & run golden at the tables
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