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The Longer Than Expected Bankroll Challenge......next target £5k

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  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 169,728
    HENDRIK62 said:

    yeah, its really annoying, all the mothers(by extension the kids) want to out do each other, when my daughter left primary (!) they got a limousine, a meal and a recording session....

    The problem I see with this is that the kids of the parents who can't afford all this finery must feel severely disadvantaged.

    Nothing wrong with "Proms" as such, it's good for kids to dress up & feel pride in their appearance.

    Guess I'm the wrong age to take a view on these matters.

  • waller02waller02 Member Posts: 9,072
    Thanks @MynaFrett @Tikay10

    Yeah it's exactly as @HENDRIK62 describes. We have the Americans to thank for it. It's a really big deal for the mothers and daughters while the dads are left to foot the bill if they want a quiet life. I wanted to hire a dress rather than fork out to buy one but that didn't go down very well.
  • waller02waller02 Member Posts: 9,072
    Tikay10 said:

    HENDRIK62 said:

    yeah, its really annoying, all the mothers(by extension the kids) want to out do each other, when my daughter left primary (!) they got a limousine, a meal and a recording session....

    The problem I see with this is that the kids of the parents who can't afford all this finery must feel severely disadvantaged.

    Nothing wrong with "Proms" as such, it's good for kids to dress up & feel pride in their appearance.

    Guess I'm the wrong age to take a view on these matters.

    Agree with that 100%. One of my daughter's friends Mum is a single mother with little spare cash and she literally skint herself for weeks just so her daughter could have a nice dress.
  • tomgooduntomgoodun Member Posts: 3,754
    Morning
    Agree with all of the above re proms and expectations, stupid Americanising, similar to “ Trick or Treat” ( Legalised Blackmail ) , think I’m old and grumpy these days.

    On a more serious note, are you getting back with Robson Green to record any more songs? 😊
  • DuesenbergDuesenberg Member Posts: 1,746
    Nice picture Waller - your daughter really looks stunning.

    I assume she must be adopted ;)
  • waller02waller02 Member Posts: 9,072
    tomgoodun said:

    Morning
    Agree with all of the above re proms and expectations, stupid Americanising, similar to “ Trick or Treat” ( Legalised Blackmail ) , think I’m old and grumpy these days.

    On a more serious note, are you getting back with Robson Green to record any more songs? 😊

    I can only assume you mean a much younger and far better looking version of Jerome Tom...
  • waller02waller02 Member Posts: 9,072

    Nice picture Waller - your daughter really looks stunning.

    I assume she must be adopted ;)

    Thanks.....ish.

    Jeremy Kyle has assured me that I am the biological father
  • waller02waller02 Member Posts: 9,072
    Day 19.

    Worst night of the challenge by a country mile. Don't even think I played that bad, there were mistakes in a few games of course but mostly I was getting spanked by the boards. Straights into sets that improved to houses, so many sets, I hit flops got outdrawn, missed draws etc.

    With it being a Friday I kept on playing thinking the tide would turn and it didn't. Just bust the last game JJ<A5 and got the message.

    Ouch. Another night like this and I'm dropping 11s and going back to the drawing board.

    16:15 - £2.20 Deepy (X)
    16:30 - £5.50 BH (X £3.76 head prizes)
    17:30 - £5.50 BH (X)
    18:30 - £5.50 BH (X)
    18:45 - £2.60 Sheriff Sat (3rd £7.20)
    19:00 - £7.70 BH (X)
    19:15 - £2.20 Deepy (X)
    19:15 - £3.30 Orfy (X)
    20:15 - £11 BH (X)
    20:30 - £5.50 Megastack (X)
    20:30 - £5.50 Mini (1 rebuy) (X)
    21:00 - £5.50 Freezeout (X)
    21:30 - £11 BH (X)
    22:15 - £5.50 BH (11th £7.72 + £12.67 head prizes)
    22:45 - £5.50 BH (X)
    23:00 - £11 BH (X)
    23:30 - £11 BH (X)
    23:45 - £5.50 BH (X)
    00:00 - £22 BH, using £9.20 free tokens. (X)
    00:30 - £11 BH (X)
    £2 Freeroll

    Start BR: £100
    Current: £396.69 and confidence extremely low :(



  • DuesenbergDuesenberg Member Posts: 1,746
    Unlucky Waller but try not to let it knock your confidence too much. I'm sure if someone could travel back to day one of this challenge and tell you the roll would be just shy of £400 by day 19, you'd have been more than happy.

    There is no doubt in my mind you're a winning player in these games so don't do anything too drastic with your approach, beyond exercising some half-reasonable bankroll management of course :).
  • waller02waller02 Member Posts: 9,072
    edited July 2019

    Unlucky Waller but try not to let it knock your confidence too much. I'm sure if someone could travel back to day one of this challenge and tell you the roll would be just shy of £400 by day 19, you'd have been more than happy.

    There is no doubt in my mind you're a winning player in these games so don't do anything too drastic with your approach, beyond exercising some half-reasonable bankroll management of course :).

    Yeah I guess it's just really frustrating to have a night like last night. In hindsight I probably should have called it a night sooner but I honestly thought the run bad would end and I could save the session with a late score. Wasn't to be.

    Bit of a kick in the teeth really as I have been putting a lot of time in away from the tables and thought that I might finally be starting to improve, now I'm not so sure. The challenge has become a proper challenge now anyway and I'm still looking forward to playing later, I've always been a sucker for punishment!

    I see that you were running pretty bad yourself last night so here's hoping for a change of fortune for the both of us tonight.
  • MynaFrettMynaFrett Member Posts: 765
    Unlucky waller. I know you weren't too interested in adhering to anything close to strict BRM for this challenge (quite the opposite :D ) but just looking at that session - 20 games for an outlay of £150 seems huge to me and if I'm being completely honest with you I think it's excessive. I would like to see you trim the volume and the outlay going forward to stabilise, rebuild and then take on that kind of session when you are closer to £1k.
  • MynaFrettMynaFrett Member Posts: 765
    ^^^

    But you're still doing really well of course and I know you're playing a good game having shared a lot of table time with you since the challenge began :)
  • Angmar2626Angmar2626 Member Posts: 886
    Ya way too many 11s, including turbo 11s. Drop them until you're at £500 again (which you will be) as a minimum. Best player in the world would go busto a fair % of the time playing that sched off that roll. Nature of the game, can't win every session!
  • waller02waller02 Member Posts: 9,072
    MynaFrett said:

    Unlucky waller. I know you weren't too interested in adhering to anything close to strict BRM for this challenge (quite the opposite :D ) but just looking at that session - 20 games for an outlay of £150 seems huge to me and if I'm being completely honest with you I think it's excessive. I would like to see you trim the volume and the outlay going forward to stabilise, rebuild and then take on that kind of session when you are closer to £1k.

    Part of the challenge was having a loose approach to BRM but I think you are right. Last night hurt, a lot. It was a huge dent to both the bankroll and more importantly the confidence. It stung far more than I anticipated it would. I think it would be wise to drop the 11s for now, although I may still play the 9:30. If the roll drops below 300 then I won't even consider any 11s as per the challenge. Also I think I should add some 2.20 BHs back into the schedule and get the ABI down to a more reasonable level.
  • waller02waller02 Member Posts: 9,072

    Ya way too many 11s, including turbo 11s. Drop them until you're at £500 again (which you will be) as a minimum. Best player in the world would go busto a fair % of the time playing that sched off that roll. Nature of the game, can't win every session!

    Yes fully agree. Lesson learnt the hard way lol

    I went a bit wild last night, I hadn't played all week as I was too busy so when I finally got chance to play last night I went a bit ott!
  • MynaFrettMynaFrett Member Posts: 765
    edited July 2019
    Try this for size and see how you go. I've found it to be quite a profitable schedule.


    16:15 - £2.20, £100 DS
    16:30 - £5.50, £400 BH
    17:15 - £1.10, £50 RB
    17:30 - £5.50, £400 BH
    18:00 - £7.20, 'Semi'
    18:30 - £5.50, £1000 BH
    19:00 - £7.70, £700 BH
    19:15 - £2.20, £100 DS
    20:00 - £2.20, £500 BH
    20:30 - £5.50, £1.5/2K 'Mini'
    21:00 - £5.50, £150 FO
    21:30 - £11.00, £1000 BH
  • waller02waller02 Member Posts: 9,072
    MynaFrett said:

    Try this for size and see how you go. I've found it to be quite a profitable schedule.


    16:15 - £2.20, £100 DS
    16:30 - £5.50, £400 BH
    17:15 - £1.10, £50 RB
    17:30 - £5.50, £400 BH
    18:00 - £7.20, 'Semi'
    18:30 - £5.50, £1000 BH
    19:00 - £7.70, £700 BH
    19:15 - £2.20, £100 DS
    20:00 - £2.20, £500 BH
    20:30 - £5.50, £1.5/2K 'Mini'
    21:00 - £5.50, £150 FO
    21:30 - £11.00, £1000 BH

    That looks the way to go. Although I tend not to buy into the Semis. Cheers mate.
  • MynaFrettMynaFrett Member Posts: 765
    edited July 2019
    The 18:00 'Semi' is still good value though IMO and absolutely worth a shot each night. The idea behind having the £2.20 deeps and the £1 rebuy in there is that they are guaranteed profit makers which will offset the games which we might have a more marginal edge in (the 'Semi', the £7.70, the £11's) so we should be effectively freerolling the slightly larger buy-ins in our schedule by virtue of winning in the smaller stuff and that means we will be effectively freerolling the 'Main' when we get there via the 'Semi'. Spin that entry into an FT and you're looking at at least a couple of hundred quid clear profit each time.
  • waller02waller02 Member Posts: 9,072
    Day 20.

    I took the advice on board, followed the schedule that was suggested and had a "close but no cigar" evening. I'll certainly take a small winning session but it's a little frustrating not to have had a half decent score after deep runs in 3 tournaments. I busted just before the decent pay jumps, but to be honest I never looked like winning apart from the 2.20 deepy where I lost QQ<KJ for a big stack with 10 left.

    Another horrid session would have seriously piled the pressure on so I can't really complain.

    16:15 - £2.20 Deepy (X)
    16:30 - £5.50 BH (X)
    17:15 - £1.10 Rebuy (1 addon) (X)
    17:30 - £5.50 BH (X £1.88 head prizes)
    18:00 - £7.20 Main Semi (X)
    18:30 - £5.50 BH (X)
    19:00 - £7.70 BH (X £7.89 head prizes)
    19:15 - £2.20 Deepy (10th £7.17)
    20:00 - £2.20 BH (X)
    20:30 - £5.50 Mini (X)
    20:30 - £5.50 Megastack (10th £9.54)
    21:30 - £11 BH (8th £28.31 + £11.49 head prizes)


    Will be back tomorrow for the usual small Sunday afternoon session.

    Start BR: £100
    Current: £400.87
  • waller02waller02 Member Posts: 9,072
    Day 21.

    The afternoon session was a good one and I have recovered a lot of the losses from Friday night's shocker.

    Only complaint was losing AK<AQ in the 14:30 BH for a pot that would have put me in 2nd place with 9 remaining. The hand played itself though and it's always better to lose like that rather than from making an error. I did manage to make the final table of 2 tournaments, including winning the 16:15 deepstack, so all in all I'm certainly in a lot better place than I was the other night.

    14:15 - £2.20 Deepy (X)
    14:30 - £5.50 BH (10th £7.18 + £9.40 head prizes)
    15:30 - £5.50 BH (X)
    16:00 - £11 BH (X £3.75 head prizes)
    16:15 - £2.20 Deepy (1st £51.30)
    16:30 - £5.50 BH (4th £24.50 + £5.64 head prizes)

    Will be back on the tables tomorrow night.

    Start BR: £100
    Current: £470.74

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