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HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 31,953
Workplaces Could Bar Anti-Vaxxers If They Refuse Covid Jab, Tory MP Says



Anti-vaxxers who reject a safe coronavirus jab may not be allowed back into their physical workplace by their employers, a senior Tory MP has said.

Tom Tugendhat told HuffPost UK he can “certainly see the day” when bosses do not allow people into the office unless they have received a Covid vaccine.

A similar system could work with social venues like pubs and restaurants asking for vaccination certificates before allowing people in.

He compared it to foreign travel, where visitors to certain countries have to show evidence of vaccination against diseases like yellow fever to be allowed into the country.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/workplaces-could-bar-anti-vaxxers-if-they-refuse-covid-jab-tory-mp-says/ar-BB1aXqZ8?ocid=msedgntp
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 31,953
    Jacob Rees-Mogg calls anti-vaxxers 'nutters' as he defends government communications spending



    Jacob Rees-Mogg has labelled anti-vaxxers “nutters” as he defended the spending on communications as necessary to “reassure people” about the safety of vaccines.

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/jacob-rees-mogg-calls-anti-vaxxers-nutters-as-he-defends-government-communications-spending/ar-BB1aX69u?ocid=msedgntp
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 31,953
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 31,953
    Covid-19: Labour calls for law to stop anti-vaccination fake news online


    Labour is calling on the government to bring in emergency laws to "stamp out dangerous" anti-vaccine content online.

    In a letter, Labour said there should be financial and criminal penalties for social media firms that do not remove anti-vaccine fake news.

    It comes after this week's news that the world's first effective Covid vaccine - made by Pfizer and BioNTech - had seen positive early results.

    The government said it took the issue "extremely seriously".

    It said it had "secured a major commitment" from social media companies Facebook, Twitter and Google to tackle anti-vaccine content.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54947661
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    Red_KingRed_King Member Posts: 2,850
    Checkmate
    To work in workplace, get covid vacine.
    To work from home, pay more tax.
    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/nov/11/staff-who-work-from-home-after-pandemic-should-pay-more-tax
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    Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 160,083
    HAYSIE said:

    Covid-19: Labour calls for law to stop anti-vaccination fake news online


    Labour is calling on the government to bring in emergency laws to "stamp out dangerous" anti-vaccine content online.

    In a letter, Labour said there should be financial and criminal penalties for social media firms that do not remove anti-vaccine fake news.

    It comes after this week's news that the world's first effective Covid vaccine - made by Pfizer and BioNTech - had seen positive early results.

    The government said it took the issue "extremely seriously".

    It said it had "secured a major commitment" from social media companies Facebook, Twitter and Google to tackle anti-vaccine content.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54947661

    I agree with this wholeheartedly.

    The weird thing is that the ones who are COVID deniers are the very same ones who are anti-vaccine. I really can't understand conspiracy theorists at all. It's anti-social & grossly irresponsible.
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    lucy4lucy4 Member Posts: 7,023
    Tikay10 said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Covid-19: Labour calls for law to stop anti-vaccination fake news online


    Labour is calling on the government to bring in emergency laws to "stamp out dangerous" anti-vaccine content online.

    In a letter, Labour said there should be financial and criminal penalties for social media firms that do not remove anti-vaccine fake news.

    It comes after this week's news that the world's first effective Covid vaccine - made by Pfizer and BioNTech - had seen positive early results.

    The government said it took the issue "extremely seriously".

    It said it had "secured a major commitment" from social media companies Facebook, Twitter and Google to tackle anti-vaccine content.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54947661

    I agree with this wholeheartedly.

    The weird thing is that the ones who are COVID deniers are the very same ones who are anti-vaccine. I really can't understand conspiracy theorists at all. It's anti-social & grossly irresponsible.
    I'd challenge the deniers to spend a day in the same room with COVID carriers to see how many would actually take up the offer to back-up their beliefs.
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 31,953
    edited November 2020
    Tikay10 said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Covid-19: Labour calls for law to stop anti-vaccination fake news online


    Labour is calling on the government to bring in emergency laws to "stamp out dangerous" anti-vaccine content online.

    In a letter, Labour said there should be financial and criminal penalties for social media firms that do not remove anti-vaccine fake news.

    It comes after this week's news that the world's first effective Covid vaccine - made by Pfizer and BioNTech - had seen positive early results.

    The government said it took the issue "extremely seriously".

    It said it had "secured a major commitment" from social media companies Facebook, Twitter and Google to tackle anti-vaccine content.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54947661

    I agree with this wholeheartedly.

    The weird thing is that the ones who are COVID deniers are the very same ones who are anti-vaccine. I really can't understand conspiracy theorists at all. It's anti-social & grossly irresponsible.
    I just cant comprehend how gullible you have to be to take any notice of it.

    Those that refuse will infect and kill others.

    However it is difficult to see how you could drag people, kicking and screaming to a GP surgery, tie them to a chair, and inject them.

    Although I couldnt say that I wouldnt be in favour of it.


    PLANDEMIC: Dr. Judy Mikovits states MILLIONS will be MASS MURDERED by the COVID 19 VACCINE!!!

    http://www.vaccinehoax.com/

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    chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774
    HAYSIE said:

    Tikay10 said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Covid-19: Labour calls for law to stop anti-vaccination fake news online


    Labour is calling on the government to bring in emergency laws to "stamp out dangerous" anti-vaccine content online.

    In a letter, Labour said there should be financial and criminal penalties for social media firms that do not remove anti-vaccine fake news.

    It comes after this week's news that the world's first effective Covid vaccine - made by Pfizer and BioNTech - had seen positive early results.

    The government said it took the issue "extremely seriously".

    It said it had "secured a major commitment" from social media companies Facebook, Twitter and Google to tackle anti-vaccine content.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54947661

    I agree with this wholeheartedly.

    The weird thing is that the ones who are COVID deniers are the very same ones who are anti-vaccine. I really can't understand conspiracy theorists at all. It's anti-social & grossly irresponsible.
    I just cant comprehend how gullible you have to be to take any notice of it.

    Those that refuse will infect and kill others.

    However it is difficult to see how you could drag people, kicking and screaming to a GP surgery, tie them to a chair, and inject them.

    Although I couldnt say that I wouldnt be in favour of it.


    PLANDEMIC: Dr. Judy Mikovits states MILLIONS will be MASS MURDERED by the COVID 19 VACCINE!!!

    http://www.vaccinehoax.com/

    Gullible? What a plonker you are.
    You don’t think folks need to question stats, then make their own minds up?
    In the U.K. the virus is 24th in causes of death, mostly in vulnerable folks.
    Look at the” recovery “ rate.
    If this was allowed to be played out, the death rate would be lower than one percent, even lower than that if suitable treatments were known earlier, as they are now.
    So it’s likely you’ll have a 99.8% survival rate. Hence the need to rush out a vaccine as the death rate in percentage terms falls.
    So which particular vaccine will be taken? Some might work to a degree.
    Which countries choose their vaccines?
    There isn’t going to be a global one🤣. Breaking news! some countries don’t get on.😱
    Back to the U.K. So this “ vaccine” is going to be given to 375000 elderly that are forecast to die each year, and the years after.... Then not forgetting those who already have terminal illnesses, and those who will have the same in the future.

    The biggest mistake imo from the start, was the guidance to isolate.
    This meant that folks who developed symptoms at home and were isolating, were getting worse by the day. That applied worldwide. Nobody knew what they were testing for.

    Why do kids need vaccinating? Flu kills far more kids than this virus.
    Ask yourself why 3000 new cases per day is ok, but 25000new cases is not.
    It’s quite obvious that some would benefit from a jab, but the majority don’t need one.

    China aren’t adding asymptomatic cases to their count, only folks with symptoms.

    It will only be in future years that will prove any of the vaccines were any good, if needed at all.

    So with a likely 99.8% “ survival” rate, at a stretch, as 8 out of 10 are asymptomatic, no questions need to be asked?
    Get a life.



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    hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Tikay10 said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Covid-19: Labour calls for law to stop anti-vaccination fake news online


    Labour is calling on the government to bring in emergency laws to "stamp out dangerous" anti-vaccine content online.

    In a letter, Labour said there should be financial and criminal penalties for social media firms that do not remove anti-vaccine fake news.

    It comes after this week's news that the world's first effective Covid vaccine - made by Pfizer and BioNTech - had seen positive early results.

    The government said it took the issue "extremely seriously".

    It said it had "secured a major commitment" from social media companies Facebook, Twitter and Google to tackle anti-vaccine content.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54947661

    I agree with this wholeheartedly.

    The weird thing is that the ones who are COVID deniers are the very same ones who are anti-vaccine. I really can't understand conspiracy theorists at all. It's anti-social & grossly irresponsible.
    I just cant comprehend how gullible you have to be to take any notice of it.

    Those that refuse will infect and kill others.

    However it is difficult to see how you could drag people, kicking and screaming to a GP surgery, tie them to a chair, and inject them.

    Although I couldnt say that I wouldnt be in favour of it.


    PLANDEMIC: Dr. Judy Mikovits states MILLIONS will be MASS MURDERED by the COVID 19 VACCINE!!!

    http://www.vaccinehoax.com/

    Gullible? What a plonker you are.
    You don’t think folks need to question stats, then make their own minds up?
    In the U.K. the virus is 24th in causes of death, mostly in vulnerable folks.
    Look at the” recovery “ rate.
    If this was allowed to be played out, the death rate would be lower than one percent, even lower than that if suitable treatments were known earlier, as they are now.
    So it’s likely you’ll have a 99.8% survival rate. Hence the need to rush out a vaccine as the death rate in percentage terms falls.
    So which particular vaccine will be taken? Some might work to a degree.
    Which countries choose their vaccines?
    There isn’t going to be a global one🤣. Breaking news! some countries don’t get on.😱
    Back to the U.K. So this “ vaccine” is going to be given to 375000 elderly that are forecast to die each year, and the years after.... Then not forgetting those who already have terminal illnesses, and those who will have the same in the future.

    The biggest mistake imo from the start, was the guidance to isolate.
    This meant that folks who developed symptoms at home and were isolating, were getting worse by the day. That applied worldwide. Nobody knew what they were testing for.

    Why do kids need vaccinating? Flu kills far more kids than this virus.
    Ask yourself why 3000 new cases per day is ok, but 25000new cases is not.
    It’s quite obvious that some would benefit from a jab, but the majority don’t need one.

    China aren’t adding asymptomatic cases to their count, only folks with symptoms.

    It will only be in future years that will prove any of the vaccines were any good, if needed at all.

    So with a likely 99.8% “ survival” rate, at a stretch, as 8 out of 10 are asymptomatic, no questions need to be asked?
    Get a life.



    We've got a live one.
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    chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774
    And what about the self employed that run their own businesses.
    Are they going to fold because they refuse a jab? LMFAO.
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    chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774
    Sociopathic media rules OK!
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    chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774

    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Tikay10 said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Covid-19: Labour calls for law to stop anti-vaccination fake news online


    Labour is calling on the government to bring in emergency laws to "stamp out dangerous" anti-vaccine content online.

    In a letter, Labour said there should be financial and criminal penalties for social media firms that do not remove anti-vaccine fake news.

    It comes after this week's news that the world's first effective Covid vaccine - made by Pfizer and BioNTech - had seen positive early results.

    The government said it took the issue "extremely seriously".

    It said it had "secured a major commitment" from social media companies Facebook, Twitter and Google to tackle anti-vaccine content.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54947661

    I agree with this wholeheartedly.

    The weird thing is that the ones who are COVID deniers are the very same ones who are anti-vaccine. I really can't understand conspiracy theorists at all. It's anti-social & grossly irresponsible.
    I just cant comprehend how gullible you have to be to take any notice of it.

    Those that refuse will infect and kill others.

    However it is difficult to see how you could drag people, kicking and screaming to a GP surgery, tie them to a chair, and inject them.

    Although I couldnt say that I wouldnt be in favour of it.


    PLANDEMIC: Dr. Judy Mikovits states MILLIONS will be MASS MURDERED by the COVID 19 VACCINE!!!

    http://www.vaccinehoax.com/

    Gullible? What a plonker you are.
    You don’t think folks need to question stats, then make their own minds up?
    In the U.K. the virus is 24th in causes of death, mostly in vulnerable folks.
    Look at the” recovery “ rate.
    If this was allowed to be played out, the death rate would be lower than one percent, even lower than that if suitable treatments were known earlier, as they are now.
    So it’s likely you’ll have a 99.8% survival rate. Hence the need to rush out a vaccine as the death rate in percentage terms falls.
    So which particular vaccine will be taken? Some might work to a degree.
    Which countries choose their vaccines?
    There isn’t going to be a global one🤣. Breaking news! some countries don’t get on.😱
    Back to the U.K. So this “ vaccine” is going to be given to 375000 elderly that are forecast to die each year, and the years after.... Then not forgetting those who already have terminal illnesses, and those who will have the same in the future.

    The biggest mistake imo from the start, was the guidance to isolate.
    This meant that folks who developed symptoms at home and were isolating, were getting worse by the day. That applied worldwide. Nobody knew what they were testing for.

    Why do kids need vaccinating? Flu kills far more kids than this virus.
    Ask yourself why 3000 new cases per day is ok, but 25000new cases is not.
    It’s quite obvious that some would benefit from a jab, but the majority don’t need one.

    China aren’t adding asymptomatic cases to their count, only folks with symptoms.

    It will only be in future years that will prove any of the vaccines were any good, if needed at all.

    So with a likely 99.8% “ survival” rate, at a stretch, as 8 out of 10 are asymptomatic, no questions need to be asked?
    Get a life.



    We've got a live one.
    ^^^^^^^^^
    Sheep.

    They eventually get slaughtered.
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    hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    Tikay10 said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Covid-19: Labour calls for law to stop anti-vaccination fake news online


    Labour is calling on the government to bring in emergency laws to "stamp out dangerous" anti-vaccine content online.

    In a letter, Labour said there should be financial and criminal penalties for social media firms that do not remove anti-vaccine fake news.

    It comes after this week's news that the world's first effective Covid vaccine - made by Pfizer and BioNTech - had seen positive early results.

    The government said it took the issue "extremely seriously".

    It said it had "secured a major commitment" from social media companies Facebook, Twitter and Google to tackle anti-vaccine content.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54947661

    I agree with this wholeheartedly.

    The weird thing is that the ones who are COVID deniers are the very same ones who are anti-vaccine. I really can't understand conspiracy theorists at all. It's anti-social & grossly irresponsible.
    They all appear to be far right crackpots as well.
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    tai-gartai-gar Member Posts: 2,590

    Tikay10 said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Covid-19: Labour calls for law to stop anti-vaccination fake news online


    Labour is calling on the government to bring in emergency laws to "stamp out dangerous" anti-vaccine content online.

    In a letter, Labour said there should be financial and criminal penalties for social media firms that do not remove anti-vaccine fake news.

    It comes after this week's news that the world's first effective Covid vaccine - made by Pfizer and BioNTech - had seen positive early results.

    The government said it took the issue "extremely seriously".

    It said it had "secured a major commitment" from social media companies Facebook, Twitter and Google to tackle anti-vaccine content.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54947661

    I agree with this wholeheartedly.

    The weird thing is that the ones who are COVID deniers are the very same ones who are anti-vaccine. I really can't understand conspiracy theorists at all. It's anti-social & grossly irresponsible.
    They all appear to be far right crackpots as well.
    Probably but just wait until someone they are close to actually suffers with the virus.
    I bet that they change their minds.
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    chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774

    Tikay10 said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Covid-19: Labour calls for law to stop anti-vaccination fake news online


    Labour is calling on the government to bring in emergency laws to "stamp out dangerous" anti-vaccine content online.

    In a letter, Labour said there should be financial and criminal penalties for social media firms that do not remove anti-vaccine fake news.

    It comes after this week's news that the world's first effective Covid vaccine - made by Pfizer and BioNTech - had seen positive early results.

    The government said it took the issue "extremely seriously".

    It said it had "secured a major commitment" from social media companies Facebook, Twitter and Google to tackle anti-vaccine content.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54947661

    I agree with this wholeheartedly.

    The weird thing is that the ones who are COVID deniers are the very same ones who are anti-vaccine. I really can't understand conspiracy theorists at all. It's anti-social & grossly irresponsible.
    They all appear to be far right crackpots as well.
    Tikays quote is totally inaccurate, in fact unfounded.

    Do a poll that doesn’t involve the media.

    Those that need a vaccine should be advised to have one, then it’s their choice.

    Not all elderly that have caught the virus have been ill. Speaks for itself.

    Youngsters have a minute chance of getting ill.

    What’s so difficult to understand?

    You guys like your stats and percentages regarding hand playing, so why are you struggling with the stats that are known.

    @hhyftrftdr , your ferrets been checked for the virus?


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    hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    My ferrets are fine, thanks.

    Appreciate your concern, but they are brown so you wouldn't like them.
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    chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774

    My ferrets are fine, thanks.

    Appreciate your concern, but they are brown so you wouldn't like them.

    Is that through the sh it that comes out your mouth? You’ve been talking to them?
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 31,953
    Coronavirus: Bill Gates ‘microchip’ conspiracy theory and other vaccine claims fact-checked


    Conspiracy theorists around the world have put Bill Gates at the heart of their stories

    Speculation about a future coronavirus vaccine is ramping up and social-media posts from anti-vaccination campaigners are gaining more traction online.

    We've been debunking a few recent claims.

    Why the microchip rumours don't stack up
    First up, a conspiracy theory about vaccines that has spanned the globe.

    It claims that the coronavirus pandemic is a cover for a plan to implant trackable microchips and that the Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates is behind it.

    We've found no evidence to support these claims.

    The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation told the BBC the claim was "false"



    The head of the Russian Communist party this week said that so-called "globalists" supported "a covert mass chip implantation which they may in time resort to under the pretext of a mandatory vaccination against coronavirus".

    He didn't mention Mr Gates by name but in the US, Roger Stone, a former adviser to Donald Trump, said Bill Gates and others were using the virus for "microchipping people so we can tell 'whether you've been tested'."

    A new YouGov poll of 1,640 people suggests that 28% of Americans believe that Bill Gates wants to use vaccines to implant microchips in people - with the figure rising to 44% among Republicans.

    Rumours took hold in March when Mr Gates said in an interview that eventually "we will have some digital certificates" which would be used to show who'd recovered, been tested and ultimately who received a vaccine. He made no mention of microchips.

    That response led to one widely shared article, under the headline: "Bill Gates will use microchip implants to fight coronavirus".

    The article makes reference to a study, funded by The Gates Foundation, into a technology that could store someone's vaccine records in a special ink administered at the same time as an injection.

    However, the technology is not a microchip and is more like an invisible tattoo. It has not been rolled out yet, would not allow people to be tracked and personal information would not be entered into a database, says Ana Jaklenec, a scientist involved in the study.

    The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation says: "The reference to 'digital certificates' relates to efforts to create an open-source digital platform with the goal of expanding access to safe, home-based testing."



    Bill Gates did not say this about a vaccine
    The Microsoft billionaire has been the target of many different false rumours about vaccines.

    A recent post on a UK-based Twitter account said: "Bill Gates admits the vaccine will no doubt kill 700,000 people" and links to a video featuring right-wing conspiracy theorist Alex Jones.

    The claim in the tweet, which has had more than 45,000 retweets and likes, is false and misrepresents Gates' words.

    In the video, Mr Gates is talking about the efficacy of vaccines in older people and cautions about the risk of side-effects.

    He sets out a hypothetical situation about the potential harm of side-effects, saying:"If we have one in 10,000 side-effects, that's way more... 700,000 people who will suffer from that."

    He does not "admit" 700,000 will die from a vaccine.

    Conspiracy theories about Bill Gates have reached the Italian Parliament, where an independent MP called for Bill Gates to be referred to the International Criminal Court for crimes against humanity.



    Pandemic for profit?
    There is a strong anti-vaccination movement in Italy.

    One popular Italian video, which has been viewed more than 700,000 times on Facebook, has a caption claiming that the pandemic has been "invented".

    The narrator of the clip is Stefano Montanari, an Italian researcher with a degree in pharmacology, who claims the end goal is to get everyone vaccinated.

    He argues that the epidemic "will continue to be totally made-up" until there is a vaccine that "will bring money and corruption into the already full pockets of some".

    He concludes: "This is a sensational hoax, but a very successful one."

    There is no evidence whatsoever to support his theory that the pandemic is a hoax. It is true that whichever pharmaceutical company develops a vaccine could potentially profit from the success, but the idea that this potential profit would be a motive to invent a pandemic is far-fetched.



    Cow-dung vaccine?
    A Facebook meme announcing a "wonder drug to battle corona" and a "cow-dung vaccine" has been shared widely on Facebook in India.

    Some of the posts, including one shared more than 1,000 times, link to a front-page story from the Ahmedabad Mirror, which reports that a trial of medicine derived from cow's milk, butter, ghee, dung and urine is under way.

    The cow is considered sacred in Hinduism and some Hindu groups have claimed that drinking cow urine could boost immunity against the virus - a claim we've looked at before.

    However, there is no scientific evidence to support this theory, and the trial described in the Ahmedabad Mirror does not mention testing cow dung as a vaccine or prophylactic treatment.

    The article quotes a doctor as saying: "Cow urine is known to have medicinal components that can cure Covid-19." In fact there is no known cure for coronavirus.

    We asked Dr Rajni Kant, a biologist and head of research at the Indian Council for Medical Research, about the use of cow urine or dung as a treatment.

    He said: "We don't have any significant evidence or study to quote that these have any efficacy against Covid-19. We don't have significant evidence or study to quote anything."

    The Rashtriya Kamdhenu Aayog, part of India's Ministry of Agriculture, confirmed there will be trials for a Covid treatment combining cow urine, dung, butter, ghee and milk - but not a vaccine.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/52847648

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    One TikTok user created a video about being "microchipped" and called a vaccine the "mark of the beast"





    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/54893437
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 31,953

    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Tikay10 said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Covid-19: Labour calls for law to stop anti-vaccination fake news online


    Labour is calling on the government to bring in emergency laws to "stamp out dangerous" anti-vaccine content online.

    In a letter, Labour said there should be financial and criminal penalties for social media firms that do not remove anti-vaccine fake news.

    It comes after this week's news that the world's first effective Covid vaccine - made by Pfizer and BioNTech - had seen positive early results.

    The government said it took the issue "extremely seriously".

    It said it had "secured a major commitment" from social media companies Facebook, Twitter and Google to tackle anti-vaccine content.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54947661

    I agree with this wholeheartedly.

    The weird thing is that the ones who are COVID deniers are the very same ones who are anti-vaccine. I really can't understand conspiracy theorists at all. It's anti-social & grossly irresponsible.
    I just cant comprehend how gullible you have to be to take any notice of it.

    Those that refuse will infect and kill others.

    However it is difficult to see how you could drag people, kicking and screaming to a GP surgery, tie them to a chair, and inject them.

    Although I couldnt say that I wouldnt be in favour of it.


    PLANDEMIC: Dr. Judy Mikovits states MILLIONS will be MASS MURDERED by the COVID 19 VACCINE!!!

    http://www.vaccinehoax.com/

    Gullible? What a plonker you are.
    You don’t think folks need to question stats, then make their own minds up?
    In the U.K. the virus is 24th in causes of death, mostly in vulnerable folks.
    Look at the” recovery “ rate.
    If this was allowed to be played out, the death rate would be lower than one percent, even lower than that if suitable treatments were known earlier, as they are now.
    So it’s likely you’ll have a 99.8% survival rate. Hence the need to rush out a vaccine as the death rate in percentage terms falls.
    So which particular vaccine will be taken? Some might work to a degree.
    Which countries choose their vaccines?
    There isn’t going to be a global one🤣. Breaking news! some countries don’t get on.😱
    Back to the U.K. So this “ vaccine” is going to be given to 375000 elderly that are forecast to die each year, and the years after.... Then not forgetting those who already have terminal illnesses, and those who will have the same in the future.

    The biggest mistake imo from the start, was the guidance to isolate.
    This meant that folks who developed symptoms at home and were isolating, were getting worse by the day. That applied worldwide. Nobody knew what they were testing for.

    Why do kids need vaccinating? Flu kills far more kids than this virus.
    Ask yourself why 3000 new cases per day is ok, but 25000new cases is not.
    It’s quite obvious that some would benefit from a jab, but the majority don’t need one.

    China aren’t adding asymptomatic cases to their count, only folks with symptoms.

    It will only be in future years that will prove any of the vaccines were any good, if needed at all.

    So with a likely 99.8% “ survival” rate, at a stretch, as 8 out of 10 are asymptomatic, no questions need to be asked?
    Get a life.



    We've got a live one.
    I think so.
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 31,953
    chilling said:

    And what about the self employed that run their own businesses.
    Are they going to fold because they refuse a jab? LMFAO.

    No they should obviously be allowed to just carry on as normal and infect and kill others.
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