sarah murphy @13sarahmurphy Edwina Currie names the Brexit benefits as ‘freedom’ and ‘two fingers to Brussels’. Two completely infantile and diplomatically incontinent claims. Summing up the whole miserably dishonest project and the prejudiced idiocy of those who still support it.
Alan Neil @AlanNeil1010 Edwina Currie being challenged to name Brexit benefits on LBC. So far, she can only come up with “freedom” and “there is no magic wand and it will take time” and “it is a very exciting time”.
Utterly pathetic.
Marina Purkiss @MarinaPurkiss Edwina Currie on LBC just now…
The first of the articles mentioned at 10:04 above was excellent. Thanks.
Truss sent warning as UK researchers to 'join EU projects' if Brexit betrayal delivered
Science Minister George Freeman has been drafting up a "Plan B" after Britain was excluded from the EU's £80billion research and innovation project over Brexit disputes. Britain was supposed to join as part of the EU-UK Trade and Cooperation Agreement (TCA), contributing £15billion over seven years so the science community could access those funds and help form long-term fellowships and international industrial collaborations for UK universities and researchers.
Ms Truss has been urged to strike a deal with the EU and resolve Brexit disputes such as fishing licences and the Northern Ireland protocol so the UK can re-join.
Although he has a "Plan B", the Science Minister does still appear to be pushing for the UK to gain Horizon Europe association and will be hoping Ms Truss can secure a deal.
He posted on Twitter: "Back to work for a crucial year for UK Science, Research & Innovation & my core Missions: Science Innovation, Innovation Nation."
He added that one of his New Year priorities is "Horizon: continue to push for UK association, alongside a bold Global Britain Plan B".
But much of the science community in Britain has argued that joining Horizon Europe is vital and don't seem too keen on a "Plan B".
Julian Hitchcock, who specialises in EU and life science law, responded: "We don't want Plan B.
"If Truss fails to secure Horizon Europe, many UK researchers will have a significant additional incentive to join EU research establishments.
"Those establishments might reasonably target key UK researchers. Plan B simply can't compete, however you spin it."
Simon Tucker, founder of Zinc and trustee at The Charter Schools Educational Trust, wrote: "UK innovation priorities. But if we don't get into Horizon the rest amounts to very little."
Others seemed relieved that Mr Freeman had not given up hope in Britain joining Horizon Europe.
2 quick points referring to your last 2 articles:-
1. It never ceases to amaze me how some industries assume way more importance than they deserve. Let's use fishermen as an example. According to industry figures, there are now more people employed in the UK involved in the growing of English wine, than in fishing. Let's say that again. English. Wine.
2. The Article 16 bit. Let's take it with a pinch of salt, at least for now. Elections may be looming-the French election, the election for a new PM, that sort of thing. Sometimes people say things to act tough. To try and win elections. Not to actually do stuff. Take Macron's frankly absurd threat to stop English people travelling across France. He was never going to do it. He was only acting tough. There needs to be progress in those talks. On all sides.
2 quick points referring to your last 2 articles:-
1. It never ceases to amaze me how some industries assume way more importance than they deserve. Let's use fishermen as an example. According to industry figures, there are now more people employed in the UK involved in the growing of English wine, than in fishing. Let's say that again. English. Wine.
2. The Article 16 bit. Let's take it with a pinch of salt, at least for now. Elections may be looming-the French election, the election for a new PM, that sort of thing. Sometimes people say things to act tough. To try and win elections. Not to actually do stuff. Take Macron's frankly absurd threat to stop English people travelling across France. He was never going to do it. He was only acting tough. There needs to be progress in those talks. On all sides.
That does not surprise me. I think the problem in the fishing and farming sectors is that they were assured that there would be improvements post Brexit, when there clearly havent.
The Irish border seems to be a difficult problem. The Unionists are adamant that they wont wear a border full stop. Yet, hasnt it now become impossible to remove it? NI is effectively in 2 different customs territories. How does that really work? The Boris plan is to diverge from the EU. Doesnt divergence mean more checks, rather than less.
2 quick points referring to your last 2 articles:-
1. It never ceases to amaze me how some industries assume way more importance than they deserve. Let's use fishermen as an example. According to industry figures, there are now more people employed in the UK involved in the growing of English wine, than in fishing. Let's say that again. English. Wine.
2. The Article 16 bit. Let's take it with a pinch of salt, at least for now. Elections may be looming-the French election, the election for a new PM, that sort of thing. Sometimes people say things to act tough. To try and win elections. Not to actually do stuff. Take Macron's frankly absurd threat to stop English people travelling across France. He was never going to do it. He was only acting tough. There needs to be progress in those talks. On all sides.
That does not surprise me. I think the problem in the fishing and farming sectors is that they were assured that there would be improvements post Brexit, when there clearly havent.
The Irish border seems to be a difficult problem. The Unionists are adamant that they wont wear a border full stop. Yet, hasnt it now become impossible to remove it? NI is effectively in 2 different customs territories. How does that really work? The Boris plan is to diverge from the EU. Doesnt divergence mean more checks, rather than less.
Agree, with the possible exception that I'm not sure farmers were expressly promised things would be better.
Farmers must be really envious about the neighbouring farm. Because the grass always seems to be greener there.
Wanted to join the EEC, presumably to take advantage of the Common Agricultural Policy. Moaned about us not being in.
Then once in, campaigned for us to leave. Wanted to rip up all those nice subsidies for some unknown future. Because they were sure they would get even bigger handouts.
Now unhappy with their lot again-who'd have thunk?
Not exactly glass half full people, are they?
PS-there are ways of diverging without it affecting trade. Behind the bluster, the PM needs to find someone who can actually deal with the fine detail.
2 quick points referring to your last 2 articles:-
1. It never ceases to amaze me how some industries assume way more importance than they deserve. Let's use fishermen as an example. According to industry figures, there are now more people employed in the UK involved in the growing of English wine, than in fishing. Let's say that again. English. Wine.
2. The Article 16 bit. Let's take it with a pinch of salt, at least for now. Elections may be looming-the French election, the election for a new PM, that sort of thing. Sometimes people say things to act tough. To try and win elections. Not to actually do stuff. Take Macron's frankly absurd threat to stop English people travelling across France. He was never going to do it. He was only acting tough. There needs to be progress in those talks. On all sides.
That does not surprise me. I think the problem in the fishing and farming sectors is that they were assured that there would be improvements post Brexit, when there clearly havent.
The Irish border seems to be a difficult problem. The Unionists are adamant that they wont wear a border full stop. Yet, hasnt it now become impossible to remove it? NI is effectively in 2 different customs territories. How does that really work? The Boris plan is to diverge from the EU. Doesnt divergence mean more checks, rather than less.
Agree, with the possible exception that I'm not sure farmers were expressly promised things would be better.
Farmers must be really envious about the neighbouring farm. Because the grass always seems to be greener there.
Wanted to join the EEC, presumably to take advantage of the Common Agricultural Policy. Moaned about us not being in.
Then once in, campaigned for us to leave. Wanted to rip up all those nice subsidies for some unknown future. Because they were sure they would get even bigger handouts.
Now unhappy with their lot again-who'd have thunk?
Not exactly glass half full people, are they?
PS-there are ways of diverging without it affecting trade. Behind the bluster, the PM needs to find someone who can actually deal with the fine detail.
Saw a report last night suggesting that farmers handouts will fall off a cliff over the next couple of years. Although this seems to be another area where the government dont seem to have a well thought out plan. The point I was making about diverging is that trade friction, and delays are caused by border checks. Therefore wouldnt it be the case that if we had agreed to continue with all EU rules, regulations, and standards, after leaving, that few checks would be needed. Doesnt it follow that divergence means more checks, increased costs and more delays? Particularly when it comes to NI.
Does the Civil Service waste money? Of course it does.
Did every single part of that article relate purely to Government inefficiency, rather than the Civil Service? Er, yes.
Love the idea that, if Lord Frost decides to charter his own flight, rather than using scheduled flights, and insists on taking 2 Civil Servants with him, this is the Civil Service wasting money.
Does the Civil Service waste money? Of course it does.
Did every single part of that article relate purely to Government inefficiency, rather than the Civil Service? Er, yes.
Love the idea that, if Lord Frost decides to charter his own flight, rather than using scheduled flights, and insists on taking 2 Civil Servants with him, this is the Civil Service wasting money.
N Ireland manufacturers make ‘significant’ post-Brexit strides
The European Commission claims that recent economic data showing Northern Ireland’s economy outperforming the rest of the UK proves the protocol can work. It has tabled proposals it said would cut customs red tape by half and food and animal checks by 80 per cent, but the UK disputes this.
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sarah murphy
@13sarahmurphy
Edwina Currie names the Brexit benefits as ‘freedom’ and ‘two fingers to Brussels’.
Two completely infantile and diplomatically incontinent claims.
Summing up the whole miserably dishonest project and the prejudiced idiocy of those who still support it.
Alan Neil
@AlanNeil1010
Edwina Currie being challenged to name Brexit benefits on LBC. So far, she can only come up with “freedom” and “there is no magic wand and it will take time” and “it is a very exciting time”.
Utterly pathetic.
Marina Purkiss
@MarinaPurkiss
Edwina Currie on LBC just now…
Twice she tried to avoid the question:
What are the Brexit benefits?
Finally, she came up with:
“Freedom”
“Two fingers to Brussels”
And…
“A new program of subsidies for farmers”
Christ
Can see why you tried to dodge it @Edwina_Currie
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/brexiteer-edwina-currie-roasted-for-failing-to-come-up-with-tangible-benefits-of-brexit/ar-AASnPEM?ocid=msedgntp
Truss sent warning as UK researchers to 'join EU projects' if Brexit betrayal delivered
Science Minister George Freeman has been drafting up a "Plan B" after Britain was excluded from the EU's £80billion research and innovation project over Brexit disputes. Britain was supposed to join as part of the EU-UK Trade and Cooperation Agreement (TCA), contributing £15billion over seven years so the science community could access those funds and help form long-term fellowships and international industrial collaborations for UK universities and researchers.
Ms Truss has been urged to strike a deal with the EU and resolve Brexit disputes such as fishing licences and the Northern Ireland protocol so the UK can re-join.
Although he has a "Plan B", the Science Minister does still appear to be pushing for the UK to gain Horizon Europe association and will be hoping Ms Truss can secure a deal.
He posted on Twitter: "Back to work for a crucial year for UK Science, Research & Innovation & my core Missions: Science Innovation, Innovation Nation."
He added that one of his New Year priorities is "Horizon: continue to push for UK association, alongside a bold Global Britain Plan B".
But much of the science community in Britain has argued that joining Horizon Europe is vital and don't seem too keen on a "Plan B".
Julian Hitchcock, who specialises in EU and life science law, responded: "We don't want Plan B.
"If Truss fails to secure Horizon Europe, many UK researchers will have a significant additional incentive to join EU research establishments.
"Those establishments might reasonably target key UK researchers. Plan B simply can't compete, however you spin it."
Simon Tucker, founder of Zinc and trustee at The Charter Schools Educational Trust, wrote: "UK innovation priorities. But if we don't get into Horizon the rest amounts to very little."
Others seemed relieved that Mr Freeman had not given up hope in Britain joining Horizon Europe.
1. It never ceases to amaze me how some industries assume way more importance than they deserve. Let's use fishermen as an example. According to industry figures, there are now more people employed in the UK involved in the growing of English wine, than in fishing. Let's say that again. English. Wine.
2. The Article 16 bit. Let's take it with a pinch of salt, at least for now. Elections may be looming-the French election, the election for a new PM, that sort of thing. Sometimes people say things to act tough. To try and win elections. Not to actually do stuff. Take Macron's frankly absurd threat to stop English people travelling across France. He was never going to do it. He was only acting tough. There needs to be progress in those talks. On all sides.
I think the problem in the fishing and farming sectors is that they were assured that there would be improvements post Brexit, when there clearly havent.
The Irish border seems to be a difficult problem.
The Unionists are adamant that they wont wear a border full stop.
Yet, hasnt it now become impossible to remove it?
NI is effectively in 2 different customs territories.
How does that really work?
The Boris plan is to diverge from the EU.
Doesnt divergence mean more checks, rather than less.
Farmers must be really envious about the neighbouring farm. Because the grass always seems to be greener there.
Wanted to join the EEC, presumably to take advantage of the Common Agricultural Policy. Moaned about us not being in.
Then once in, campaigned for us to leave. Wanted to rip up all those nice subsidies for some unknown future. Because they were sure they would get even bigger handouts.
Now unhappy with their lot again-who'd have thunk?
Not exactly glass half full people, are they?
PS-there are ways of diverging without it affecting trade. Behind the bluster, the PM needs to find someone who can actually deal with the fine detail.
Although this seems to be another area where the government dont seem to have a well thought out plan.
The point I was making about diverging is that trade friction, and delays are caused by border checks.
Therefore wouldnt it be the case that if we had agreed to continue with all EU rules, regulations, and standards, after leaving, that few checks would be needed.
Doesnt it follow that divergence means more checks, increased costs and more delays?
Particularly when it comes to NI.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/brexit-betrayal-fury-at-jaw-dropping-uk-civil-service-waste-even-after-eu-withdrawal/ar-AASD0gg?ocid=msedgntp
Does the Civil Service waste money? Of course it does.
Did every single part of that article relate purely to Government inefficiency, rather than the Civil Service? Er, yes.
Love the idea that, if Lord Frost decides to charter his own flight, rather than using scheduled flights, and insists on taking 2 Civil Servants with him, this is the Civil Service wasting money.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/newslondon/unilateral-action-to-halt-brexit-checks-would-be-unlawful-michelle-o-neill/ar-AASD8oE?ocid=msedgntp
So Sir Jeffrey has paused his oft repeated threat to collapse Stormont.
I believe he also threatened to walk away from Stormont if Westminster passes the Irish Language Act (It will).
Has that threat been paused too or is it still hanging like the sword of Damocles over a quivering Boris Johnson?
Don’t know anymore, there have been so many deadlines and ultimatums I have genuinely lost track.
It seems that the DUP and Sir Jeff are trying very hard to make themselves unelectable, in this they will be very, very successful come May.
Harry Patterson, Castlecaulfield
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/i-am-losing-track-of-the-dup-deadlines/ar-AASH4yI?ocid=msedgntp
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/brexit-changes-will-add-to-soaring-costs-in-2022-warn-uk-manufacturers/ar-AASBk8E?ocid=msedgntp
N Ireland manufacturers make ‘significant’ post-Brexit strides
The European Commission claims that recent economic data showing Northern Ireland’s economy outperforming the rest of the UK proves the protocol can work. It has tabled proposals it said would cut customs red tape by half and food and animal checks by 80 per cent, but the UK disputes this.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brexit/n-ireland-manufacturers-make-significant-post-brexit-strides/ar-AASITzk?ocid=msedgntp
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/brexit-boom-uk-s-numerous-global-trade-agreements-laid-bare-after-one-year-free-from-bloc/ar-AASJx6Z?ocid=msedgntp
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/work-on-post-brexit-lorry-contraflow-system-in-kent-will-disrupt-m20-for-a-year/ar-AASKMRA?ocid=msedgntp
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/us-rejects-uk-plea-for-talks-on-steel-tariffs-in-humiliation-for-boris-johnson/ar-AASJHU4?ocid=msedgntp
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/brexit-live-no-appetite-for-article-16-truss-breaks-away-from-frost-eu-poised-to-cave/ar-AASXDeN?ocid=msedgntp
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/brexit-uk-australia-trade-deal-as-one-sided-as-the-ashes-tory-mp-tells-ministers/ar-AASY9XG?ocid=msedgntp
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/no-plan-for-britain-tony-blair-wades-into-boris-party-row-as-ex-pm-issues-brexit-swipe/ar-AASXUAZ?ocid=msedgntp
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/eu-seeks-to-resolve-n-ireland-impasse-with-uk-by-end-of-feb/ar-AASY3ky?ocid=msedgntp