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  • TheEdge949TheEdge949 Member Posts: 5,686
    Yet another thread hijacked by the anti vax conspiracy merchant. You are becoming the Covid version of misterpj.

    Strokes, sepsis, heart conditions et al are all lifes variance, caused by a myriad of reasons.

    #disinformation
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774

    Yet another thread hijacked by the anti vax conspiracy merchant. You are becoming the Covid version of misterpj.

    Strokes, sepsis, heart conditions et al are all lifes variance, caused by a myriad of reasons.

    #disinformation

    Not one bit of propaganda in my post. First hand info.
    They both visited the doctors quite regularly for health check ups before the ‘ pandemic’.
    Explain to me why there is a Vaers database.
    Is it for sore arms and headaches?
  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    The former football teammate who had a stroke....

    What's his age?

    And then from that, what's the %age chance of suffering a stroke for males his age vs the %age chance that the stroke was caused by a vaccine?
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774

    Yet another thread hijacked by the anti vax conspiracy merchant. You are becoming the Covid version of misterpj.

    Strokes, sepsis, heart conditions et al are all lifes variance, caused by a myriad of reasons.

    #disinformation

    You’re also implying the Vaers information is misinformation?
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774

    The former football teammate who had a stroke....

    What's his age?

    And then from that, what's the %age chance of suffering a stroke for males his age vs the %age chance that the stroke was caused by a vaccine?

    Well, he’s 58.
    He’s been playing five a side for the last ten years.
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774

    The former football teammate who had a stroke....

    What's his age?

    And then from that, what's the %age chance of suffering a stroke for males his age vs the %age chance that the stroke was caused by a vaccine?

    Probably the same chance as a COVID denier dying in Denmark.
    My mate never made the media though.
  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    chilling said:

    The former football teammate who had a stroke....

    What's his age?

    And then from that, what's the %age chance of suffering a stroke for males his age vs the %age chance that the stroke was caused by a vaccine?

    Well, he’s 58.
    He’s been playing five a side for the last ten years.
    So he's around 6% chance of having a stroke on the 10 year probability scale.
    This would likely drop a couple of points if he leads a relatively healthy lifestyle (which it sounds like he might do), and increase a number of points if he doesn't, with 5.9% being an 'average' person in his age bracket.



    That's not to say that a vaccine hasn't definitely caused his stroke, but it would appear to be much less likely than more, and the odds are heavily tipped in the favour of the stroke being natural rather than anything else.

    Let's not forget; people will have strokes after having a vaccine, because people suffer strokes.





  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774
    edited August 2021

    chilling said:

    The former football teammate who had a stroke....

    What's his age?

    And then from that, what's the %age chance of suffering a stroke for males his age vs the %age chance that the stroke was caused by a vaccine?

    Well, he’s 58.
    He’s been playing five a side for the last ten years.
    So he's around 6% chance of having a stroke on the 10 year probability scale.
    This would likely drop a couple of points if he leads a relatively healthy lifestyle (which it sounds like he might do), and increase a number of points if he doesn't, with 5.9% being an 'average' person in his age bracket.



    That's not to say that a vaccine hasn't definitely caused his stroke, but it would appear to be much less likely than more, and the odds are heavily tipped in the favour of the stroke being natural rather than anything else.

    Let's not forget; people will have strokes after having a vaccine, because people suffer strokes.





    His health was good, he wouldn’t have been playing footie had it been bad.
    Must have been like Misty then, falling into the 0.2%.
  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    chilling said:

    chilling said:

    The former football teammate who had a stroke....

    What's his age?

    And then from that, what's the %age chance of suffering a stroke for males his age vs the %age chance that the stroke was caused by a vaccine?

    Well, he’s 58.
    He’s been playing five a side for the last ten years.
    So he's around 6% chance of having a stroke on the 10 year probability scale.
    This would likely drop a couple of points if he leads a relatively healthy lifestyle (which it sounds like he might do), and increase a number of points if he doesn't, with 5.9% being an 'average' person in his age bracket.



    That's not to say that a vaccine hasn't definitely caused his stroke, but it would appear to be much less likely than more, and the odds are heavily tipped in the favour of the stroke being natural rather than anything else.

    Let's not forget; people will have strokes after having a vaccine, because people suffer strokes.





    His health was good, he wouldn’t have been playing footie had it been bad.
    Must have been like Misty then, falling into the 0.2%.
    He could be the healthiest 58 year old on the planet, he's still way way more likely to suffer a stroke through natural causes at his age than via a vaccination.
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774
    MISTY4ME said:

    I'd much rather have the vaccine, however experimental, and know I was much more protected, than not have the vaccine and run the risk of dying from a virus that does kill people. I'd rather believe the Doctors and Scientists, who I listen to nearly every day, telling us you are far safer being vaccinated than not.

    Having been in ICU for 5 days with COVID, and nearly 2 weeks total in hospital, I can assure you, COVID is something everyone needs protecting from.

    I'll be first in the queue for the Booster jab too.

    Where did you say you acquired your fish from?











  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774
    edited August 2021

    chilling said:

    chilling said:

    The former football teammate who had a stroke....

    What's his age?

    And then from that, what's the %age chance of suffering a stroke for males his age vs the %age chance that the stroke was caused by a vaccine?

    Well, he’s 58.
    He’s been playing five a side for the last ten years.
    So he's around 6% chance of having a stroke on the 10 year probability scale.
    This would likely drop a couple of points if he leads a relatively healthy lifestyle (which it sounds like he might do), and increase a number of points if he doesn't, with 5.9% being an 'average' person in his age bracket.



    That's not to say that a vaccine hasn't definitely caused his stroke, but it would appear to be much less likely than more, and the odds are heavily tipped in the favour of the stroke being natural rather than anything else.

    Let's not forget; people will have strokes after having a vaccine, because people suffer strokes.





    His health was good, he wouldn’t have been playing footie had it been bad.
    Must have been like Misty then, falling into the 0.2%.
    He could be the healthiest 58 year old on the planet, he's still way way more likely to suffer a stroke through natural causes at his age than via a vaccination.
    Sure, it could be a pure coincidence so shortly after a second jab.There’s no way of knowing.
    Other than checking his medical history, obv.

    It seems you’re pulled to certain stories in the media, and don’t accept anything other than what
    you’re being forced fed.
    Who are you following for your guidance?
    Who makes you feel quite comfortable?
  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    chilling said:

    chilling said:

    chilling said:

    The former football teammate who had a stroke....

    What's his age?

    And then from that, what's the %age chance of suffering a stroke for males his age vs the %age chance that the stroke was caused by a vaccine?

    Well, he’s 58.
    He’s been playing five a side for the last ten years.
    So he's around 6% chance of having a stroke on the 10 year probability scale.
    This would likely drop a couple of points if he leads a relatively healthy lifestyle (which it sounds like he might do), and increase a number of points if he doesn't, with 5.9% being an 'average' person in his age bracket.



    That's not to say that a vaccine hasn't definitely caused his stroke, but it would appear to be much less likely than more, and the odds are heavily tipped in the favour of the stroke being natural rather than anything else.

    Let's not forget; people will have strokes after having a vaccine, because people suffer strokes.





    His health was good, he wouldn’t have been playing footie had it been bad.
    Must have been like Misty then, falling into the 0.2%.
    He could be the healthiest 58 year old on the planet, he's still way way more likely to suffer a stroke through natural causes at his age than via a vaccination.
    Sure, it could be a pure coincidence so shortly after a second jab.There’s no way of knowing.
    Other than checking his medical history, obv.

    It seems you’re pulled to certain stories in the media, and don’t accept anything other than what
    you’re being forced fed.
    Who are you following for your guidance?
    Who makes you feel quite comfortable?
    Why was it after his 2nd jab and not his first jab, Dr Chilling?

    He's in an age group where he's around a 6% chance to suffer a stroke due to his age.
    His chances of suffering a stroke brought on by a vaccine are tiny in comparison.

    You can try and twist things however you want, and talk about coincidences and medical history or whatever, but that's what it boils down to.

    Or maybe it was 50/50, like penalties?
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774

    chilling said:

    The former football teammate who had a stroke....

    What's his age?

    And then from that, what's the %age chance of suffering a stroke for males his age vs the %age chance that the stroke was caused by a vaccine?

    Well, he’s 58.
    He’s been playing five a side for the last ten years.
    So he's around 6% chance of having a stroke on the 10 year probability scale.
    This would likely drop a couple of points if he leads a relatively healthy lifestyle (which it sounds like he might do), and increase a number of points if he doesn't, with 5.9% being an 'average' person in his age bracket.



    That's not to say that a vaccine hasn't definitely caused his stroke, but it would appear to be much less likely than more, and the odds are heavily tipped in the favour of the stroke being natural rather than anything else.

    Let's not forget; people will have strokes after having a vaccine, because people suffer strokes.





    So you fall into that range?
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774

    Yet another thread hijacked by the anti vax conspiracy merchant. You are becoming the Covid version of misterpj.

    Strokes, sepsis, heart conditions et al are all lifes variance, caused by a myriad of reasons.

    #disinformation

    I’m quoting from the’ experts’.
    Merely helping the confused.
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774

    chilling said:

    chilling said:

    chilling said:

    The former football teammate who had a stroke....

    What's his age?

    And then from that, what's the %age chance of suffering a stroke for males his age vs the %age chance that the stroke was caused by a vaccine?

    Well, he’s 58.
    He’s been playing five a side for the last ten years.
    So he's around 6% chance of having a stroke on the 10 year probability scale.
    This would likely drop a couple of points if he leads a relatively healthy lifestyle (which it sounds like he might do), and increase a number of points if he doesn't, with 5.9% being an 'average' person in his age bracket.



    That's not to say that a vaccine hasn't definitely caused his stroke, but it would appear to be much less likely than more, and the odds are heavily tipped in the favour of the stroke being natural rather than anything else.

    Let's not forget; people will have strokes after having a vaccine, because people suffer strokes.





    His health was good, he wouldn’t have been playing footie had it been bad.
    Must have been like Misty then, falling into the 0.2%.
    He could be the healthiest 58 year old on the planet, he's still way way more likely to suffer a stroke through natural causes at his age than via a vaccination.
    Sure, it could be a pure coincidence so shortly after a second jab.There’s no way of knowing.
    Other than checking his medical history, obv.

    It seems you’re pulled to certain stories in the media, and don’t accept anything other than what
    you’re being forced fed.
    Who are you following for your guidance?
    Who makes you feel quite comfortable?
    Why was it after his 2nd jab and not his first jab, Dr Chilling?

    He's in an age group where he's around a 6% chance to suffer a stroke due to his age.
    His chances of suffering a stroke brought on by a vaccine are tiny in comparison.

    You can try and twist things however you want, and talk about coincidences and medical history or whatever, but that's what it boils down to.

    Or maybe it was 50/50, like penalties?
    Probably antibody-dependant enhancement.
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774
    The only way to test a vaccine is if it meets a virus.
    Hence the trials.
  • MISTY4MEMISTY4ME Member Posts: 6,320
    edited August 2021
    chilling said:

    The only way to test a vaccine is if it meets a virus.
    Hence the trials.

    That's what the Scientists all around the World were doing before the Vaccine was authorised to be given out
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774
    MISTY4ME said:

    chilling said:

    The only way to test a vaccine is if it meets a virus.
    Hence the trials.

    That's what the Scientists all around the World were doing before the Vaccine was authorised to be given out
    As Fau Chi says,the vaccines need to meet the ‘ wild type’.
    If 2 shots wane, then why won’t a 3rd.
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774
    MISTY4ME said:

    chilling said:

    The only way to test a vaccine is if it meets a virus.
    Hence the trials.

    That's what the Scientists all around the World were doing before the Vaccine was authorised to be given out
    Mr Gates said on tv, he wasn’t going to share the technology .
    They all went alone?
  • MISTY4MEMISTY4ME Member Posts: 6,320
    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/fully-vaccinated-people-catch-covid-093720969.html#:~:text=Business Insider,early research suggests
    Fully vaccinated people who catch COVID-19 appear to be less infectious and clear the virus quicker than unvaccinated people, early research suggests
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