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New BR challenge - Back on track

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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,818
    edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: New BR challenge - Failed.:
    In Response to Re: New BR challenge - Failed. : LOL i know who this is Don dw mate just think you got your cardiff seat booked for 23rd July Happy thoughts Don...... you can easily beat 4nl you should be playing at least 10/20nl with the amount of work you put into your game but downswings have affected this just keep at it mate or even try and buld a roll away from cash games then on mtts sngs etc then when you feel you have the right amount to skip 4 and 8nl go for it GL mate and will see you at Cardiff just in time to tell you how sheeet Rangers are :)
    Posted by delaney09
    Glasgow Rangers champions na na na na na

    lol :D
  • tapewormtapeworm Member Posts: 432
    edited May 2011

    Ive got a new song that fits this thread well....

    What a difference a day makes
    Twenty-four little hours
    Brought the sun and the flowers
    Where there used to be rain.....

    so on and so forth

  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited May 2011
    Wiiiii nice bink donald, well chuffed now lets get this thing back on track.... no tilting, no sats unless you add to your role make most of what you have now and obviously run better!
  • MADMOOMADMOO Member Posts: 1,687
    edited May 2011
    Well deserved win tonight don, well done x
  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,818
    edited May 2011
    Back on track quite remarkably. Won a free seat to tonights totty rebuy via a twitter comp. So after 4 hours sleep (woke up and missed the first 15 mins of the tourny) i got onto it. Doubled early and never really done much after that for the first hour.

    Played simple solid poker, the results

    PlayersPlayers Remaining: 0 / 15
    Player Name
    Chips
    Rank
    Prize
          
    The_Don90 71250 1 £65 + 20 League Points
    MADMOO 0 2 £39 + 16 League Points
    igor1966 0 3 £26 + 12 League Points
    micky6chin 0 4 8 League Points



    Somehow this just feels weird 6 hours ago id thrown in the towel, likley to just curl up in a ball somewhere and not think about cards. Suddenly im back on track with a roll thats still pretty weak but manageable.


    Closing Bankroll: £65.51

    taking the rest of the night off and will get welll rested. Today has taken far more out of me than anyhting. Emotions have been a rollercoaster as much as the BR. I started this week with a meger bit more than a tenner. I grinded it while playing well, with a little run good to £38 then with a mix of bad luck and TERRIBLE play i was down as low as 51p. Shows ya really what poker is all about. Today has been one of the toughest times ive ever had since i started playing. Ive gone busto many times before, part of the parcel of the game with a small roll, but none have effected me the way it did today. Previously i just reloaded and got on with it. However i think it was the manner in how i lost it. I crumbled before my own eyes. Stress/tiredness every which way i looked and turned. I couldnt have done nothing.

    Whats wierd though is ive had one NL4 reg saying my table selection was a problem, possible. But then theres another who said the one good thing about my AQ hand is that the table selection was good. I may occassionally bump into a decent reg, but really is it avoidable playing cash to play 2/3/4 tables without bumping into a single reg. The other problem ive had at night, theres 3 tables running and im planning to play 2, 2 regs on each minimum. Sometimes u gta take these. May approch the regs slightly differently now.

    For now. Peace.
  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,818
    edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: New BR challenge - Back on track:
    Well deserved win tonight don, well done x
    Posted by MADMOO
    ty was a very good game. Final 3 was a little frustrating with me having a commanding chip lead and just not getting the right spots. HU you played very well, shoving alot over the raises takes away a huge amount of my HU game. So VWP.

    :)
  • MP33MP33 Member Posts: 6,308
    edited May 2011
    lol - N1  - funny old game
  • MP33MP33 Member Posts: 6,308
    edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: New BR challenge - Back on track:
    lol - N1  - funny old game
    Posted by MP33
    Just spent another 8 hours 3-4 tabling on the micros- Was up a cpl of quid till i eventually tilted after 3 bad beats in a row and lost £20

    Went on 10p/20p 2 tabling and within 20 minutes won it back and another £50 - Its so much less robotic and you can actually get bluffs through  - i,m getting fed up with the micro,s myself
  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,818
    edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: New BR challenge - Back on track:
    In Response to Re: New BR challenge - Back on track : Just spent another 8 hours 3-4 tabling on the micros- Was up a cpl of quid till i eventually tilted after 3 bad beats in a row and lost £20 Went on 10p/20p 2 tabling and within 20 minutes won it back and another £50 - Its so much less robotic and you can actually get bluffs through  - i,m getting fed up with the micro,s myself
    Posted by MP33
    Yea know the feeling. Just bumping into the regs frequently doesnt help. Night last few days certianly showing to me that theres been very little value at NL4, which is kind of weird. Since that update all in finding are decent regs who wont stack off light.

    I blame Dohhhh and his guide lol.
  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,818
    edited May 2011

    Gonna do some dyms. Finding NL4 alot harder than i should of late. Disipline has been effected. Curious though as advice

    My BR allows me 20BIs for £3.30 which is more than sustainable. However ive always felt more comfortable at £5.50 which it could support but not much room for margin for error.

    I curious as to what people think is best. I will be 2 tabling them, as ive found 4x Dyms at once just isnt profitable for me as usually i cant cash in all 4 in a go. 3 usually but if im out of one early the pressure of needing to cash in the other 3 to make a profit effects my game and i become Overly nitty.

  • NeildownNeildown Member Posts: 1,635
    edited May 2011
    Nice win last night Don... chuffed for you
  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,818
    edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: New BR challenge - Back on track:
    Nice win last night Don... chuffed for you
    Posted by Neildown
    ty m8 :)
  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,818
    edited May 2011
    Brutal 2 dyms. Results in me losing both.

    First one never got going, 2400 @ 300/600 blinds and im the shorty. Shove KQ, into QQ.

    Other one, 2 shortys i get AQ on SB shorrty on BB so i shove, He calls 44. Lose a flip. Very next hand 88 v A8 flop brings an ace. Sometimes its just not meant to be

    BR: £53.41

  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: New BR challenge - Back on track:
    Gonna do some dyms. Finding NL4 alot harder than i should of late. Disipline has been effected. Curious though as advice My BR allows me 20BIs for £3.30 which is more than sustainable. However ive always felt more comfortable at £5.50 which it could support but not much room for margin for error. I curious as to what people think is best. I will be 2 tabling them, as ive found 4x Dyms at once just isnt profitable for me as usually i cant cash in all 4 in a go. 3 usually but if im out of one early the pressure of needing to cash in the other 3 to make a profit effects my game and i become Overly nitty.
    Posted by The_Don90
    Play cash.
  • MP33MP33 Member Posts: 6,308
    edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: New BR challenge - Back on track:
    In Response to Re: New BR challenge - Back on track : Yea know the feeling. Just bumping into the regs frequently doesnt help. Night last few days certianly showing to me that theres been very little value at NL4, which is kind of weird. Since that update all in finding are decent regs who wont stack off light. I blame Dohhhh and his guide lol.
    Posted by The_Don90

    Turning a worthwhile profit from NL4 on a consistent basis is harder than some ppl think imo
  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,818
    edited May 2011
    This is seriously getting frustrating YET another losing session whrre i play welll

    Winning hands
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    Maxlobo3 Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £13.70
    oatso Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £3.13
      Your hole cards
    • K
    • J
         
    GADGETBOY1 Call  £0.04 £0.10 £4.96
    The_Don90 Raise  £0.20 £0.30 £3.82
    carper Fold     
    Maxlobo3 Fold     
    oatso Fold     
    GADGETBOY1 Call  £0.16 £0.46 £4.80
    Flop
       
    • 4
    • 8
    • 6
         
    GADGETBOY1 Check     
    The_Don90 Bet  £0.23 £0.69 £3.59
    GADGETBOY1 Call  £0.23 £0.92 £4.57
    Turn
       
    • J
         
    GADGETBOY1 Check     
    The_Don90 Bet  £0.69 £1.61 £2.90
    GADGETBOY1 Call  £0.69 £2.30 £3.88
    River
       
    • A
         
    GADGETBOY1 Check     
    The_Don90 Check     
    GADGETBOY1 Show
    • 10
    • 8
       
    The_Don90 Show
    • K
    • J
       
    The_Don90 Win Pair of Jacks £2.12  £5.02
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    GADGETBOY1 Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £4.24
    The_Don90 Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £5.04
    carper Big blind  £0.04 £0.10 £3.74
      Your hole cards
    • K
    • A
         
    archie10 Raise  £0.08 £0.18 £0.68
    carper Call  £0.04 £0.22 £3.70
    oatso Call  £0.08 £0.30 £3.99
    GADGETBOY1 Call  £0.06 £0.36 £4.18
    The_Don90 Raise  £0.76 £1.12 £4.28
    archie10 All-in  £0.68 £1.80 £0.00
    carper Fold     
    oatso Fold     
    GADGETBOY1 Call  £0.72 £2.52 £3.46
    Flop
       
    • K
    • J
    • 8
         
    GADGETBOY1 All-in  £3.46 £5.98 £0.00
    The_Don90 Call  £3.46 £9.44 £0.82
    GADGETBOY1 Show
    • K
    • J
       
    The_Don90 Show
    • K
    • A
       
    archie10 Show
    • 8
    • 8
       
    Turn
       
    • A
         
    River
       
    • 10
         
    archie10 Win Three 8s £2.25  £2.25
    The_Don90 Win Two Pairs, Aces and Kings £6.48  £7.30
    off to a good start early then, but boom that doom switch is hit

    Losing hands
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    The_Don90 Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £4.11
    archie10 Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £3.72
      Your hole cards
    • 6
    • 6
         
    security01 Call  £0.04 £0.10 £0.93
    carper Raise  £0.20 £0.30 £2.60
    vaugha1971 Call  £0.20 £0.50 £1.26
    The_Don90 Call  £0.18 £0.68 £3.93
    archie10 Fold     
    security01 Call  £0.16 £0.84 £0.77
    Flop
       
    • K
    • 2
    • 6
         
    The_Don90 Bet  £0.42 £1.26 £3.51
    security01 Fold     
    carper Call  £0.42 £1.68 £2.18
    vaugha1971 Call  £0.42 £2.10 £0.84
    Turn
       
    • J
         
    The_Don90 Bet  £1.58 £3.68 £1.93
    carper All-in  £2.18 £5.86 £0.00
    vaugha1971 Fold     
    The_Don90 Call  £0.60 £6.46 £1.33
    The_Don90 Show
    • 6
    • 6
       
    carper Show
    • K
    • K
       
    River
       
    • 7
         
    carper Win Three Kings £5.97  £5.97


    Closing balance: £50.46

    Had enough now tbh. Im not getting any sort of profit. and its not just one hand clearly as seen above, its a series of hands and im losing little amounts at once. Really dont know what im doing wrong. Playing simple ABC poker, get outdrawn consistantly, not hitting draws myself and its those hands that causing the profits and losses to be so great.
  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited May 2011
    First hand with KJ, I think you can safely bet/fold that river. He shouldn't have many aces and he will pay a bet if he flopped top pair.

    Wd c betting with equity though,and you made a value hand on the turn. wp.

    Hand 2 with AK, wp, - never say u run bad again.

    Hand three, ul. 

    Keep grinding.

    Play more tables, play for longer.


  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,818
    edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: New BR challenge - Back on track:
    First hand with KJ, I think you can safely bet/fold that river. He shouldn't have many aces and he will pay a bet if he flopped top pair. Wd c betting with equity though,and you made a value hand on the turn. wp. Hand 2 with AK, wp, - never say u run bad again. Hand three, ul.  Keep grinding. Play more tables, play for longer.
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    JJ the problem isnt in the above 3 hands. All are standard i think. The problem is that im losing other hands. Ill see if i can find examples.

    Heres my only other winning hand above 50p AGAIN STANDARD
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    archie10 Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £3.19
    WHATALODOF Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £1.52
      Your hole cards
    • 8
    • 8
         
    mole05 Fold     
    vaugha1971 Call  £0.04 £0.10 £0.70
    The_Don90 Raise  £0.20 £0.30 £4.26
    archie10 Call  £0.18 £0.48 £3.01
    WHATALODOF Fold     
    vaugha1971 Call  £0.16 £0.64 £0.54
    Flop
       
    • 8
    • 3
    • A
         
    archie10 Check     
    vaugha1971 Check     
    The_Don90 Bet  £0.48 £1.12 £3.78
    archie10 Fold     
    vaugha1971 Call  £0.48 £1.60 £0.06
    Turn
       
    • 4
         
    vaugha1971 All-in  £0.06 £1.66 £0.00
    The_Don90 Call  £0.06 £1.72 £3.72
    vaugha1971 Show
    • Q
    • 7
       
    The_Don90 Show
    • 8
    • 8
       
    River
       
    • A
         
    The_Don90 Win Full House, 8s and Aces £1.59  £5.31


    right so onto losing hands.
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    oatso Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £3.86
    allybungle Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £1.40
      Your hole cards
    • 10
    • 10
         
    The_Don90 Raise  £0.20 £0.26 £7.08
    archie10 Fold     
    duonross Fold     
    carper Call  £0.20 £0.46 £2.22
    oatso Fold     
    allybungle Fold     
    Flop
       
    • 6
    • Q
    • 4
         
    The_Don90 Bet  £0.35 £0.81 £6.73
    carper Raise  £0.70 £1.51 £1.52
    The_Don90 Call  £0.35 £1.86 £6.38
    Turn
       
    • K
         
    The_Don90 Check     
    carper All-in  £1.52 £3.38 £0.00
    The_Don90 Fold     
    carper Muck     
    carper Win  £1.72  £1.72
    carper Return  £1.52 £0.14 £3.24
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    duonross Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £4.68
    carper Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £3.09
    oatso Sit out     
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • 7
         
    allybungle Fold     
    The_Don90 Raise  £0.12 £0.18 £5.75
    archie10 Call  £0.12 £0.30 £2.89
    duonross Fold     
    carper Fold     
    Flop
       
    • 9
    • Q
    • K
         
    The_Don90 Bet  £0.15 £0.45 £5.60
    archie10 Raise  £0.30 £0.75 £2.59
    The_Don90 Call  £0.15 £0.90 £5.45
    Turn
       
    • 8
         
    The_Don90 Check     
    archie10 Bet  £0.36 £1.26 £2.23
    The_Don90 Call  £0.36 £1.62 £5.09
    River
       
    • 7
         
    The_Don90 Check     
    archie10 Bet  £1.56 £3.18 £0.67
    The_Don90 Fold     
    archie10 Muck     
    archie10 Win  £1.49  £2.16
    archie10 Return  £1.56 £0.13 £3.72
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    The_Don90 Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £4.11
    chrisx2525 Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £3.29
      Your hole cards
    • K
    • A
         
    Pigher Fold     
    sexychic05 Fold     
    DadandLad Call  £0.04 £0.10 £8.16
    BLAGS01 Fold     
    The_Don90 Raise  £0.28 £0.38 £3.83
    chrisx2525 Call  £0.26 £0.64 £3.03
    DadandLad Fold     
    Flop
       
    • 5
    • 7
    • 10
         
    The_Don90 Bet  £0.48 £1.12 £3.35
    chrisx2525 Call  £0.48 £1.60 £2.55
    Turn
       
    • 9
         
    The_Don90 Check     
    chrisx2525 Check     
    River
       
    • 8
         
    The_Don90 Check     
    chrisx2525 Check     
    The_Don90 Show
    • K
    • A
       
    chrisx2525 Show
    • Q
    • 10
       
    chrisx2525 Win Pair of 10s £1.48  £4.03
    Ok again i think standard. But would value opinions as these are the types of hands that are costing me long term. P.S bar the set over set thats all my losing handa above 50p and i was £3.50 up at one point so where the deuce have i lost the other £3.50.
  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited May 2011
    Fold the 10s to the raise on the flop. Ur calling for a 2 outer basically. 

    The AK is ok I guess......

    The ace 7 is fine, if u were playing 4+ tables like u shud be I wud fold pre, but as ur focusing on 2 u can open A7s there, post flop is fine.


  • SHANXTASHANXTA Member Posts: 1,507
    edited May 2011
    if u cant beat nl4 then grind £3/£5 dyms

    u shud b able to make £20-£40 a day easy from these, but don't focus on ur mini session results, play 4 at a time, dnt tilt if u crash out of the 1st one, goin 2/4 is ok coz ur av mini sessions where u go 4/4. the worst thing u can do is change ur style just because uv crashed out of one early. infact don't even view it like that, if ur gonna play for 2/3/4 hrs then just load up a new one as soon as u finish one, and only check ur balance at d end
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