Looking back on yesterday. I did try and push myself way too much. The good thing is i am capable of making notes while on 6 tables. probably not as much as i needed but thats still some all the same. Ive picked out a couple of people who i suspect to be regs, and i also picked out some good value opponents. Although still one im very un decided on. Although i have to say i was staggered by the amount of notes i seen labelled as NL4 and recent. Anyways ive dropped back down but while im not playing i may consider even just watching NL10. I think i let a few coolers/bad beats get ontop of me yesterday and that isnt exactly ideal. FAO Dudeskin i may look for you if your playing at somepoint on NL10 and see how you play it. Im not scouting on you but i wana know what im looking for and clearly i completely missed something yesterday. The road to recovery may take a few days or weeks but i fully believe ill be rolled for NL10 again in no time. But i think i learnt something yesterday tbh. Posted by The_Don90
I'd still say at first it would be best to slow it all down and go with max 3 tables. On the actual note taking business my notes fall into two catorgories, good players that I label 'Multitable x tables NLx' and any specific reads I have but the multitable bit is crucial as I can quickly establish if the table is worth playing at, i.e. more than say 2/3 and I'm gone. Next type is bad players and if they're really bad just a general note is 'DEAD MONEY NLx' this is a instant signal to stay on the table and ofc the more of these the better , but also I try to add note why they are proper awful like 'open limp UTG w/79o call 4x raise pre, call down 3 streets w/2nd pair etc, once I have that I don't need many more notes lol.
On following me, prepared to be bored to death lol, Seriously though I don't think that's needed, just table select properly and play your cards EXACTLY like NL4/8
In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary : I'd still say at first it would be best to slow it all down and go with max 3 tables. On the actual note taking business my notes fall into two catorgories, good players that I label 'Multitable x tables NLx' and any specific reads I have but the multitable bit is crucial as I can quickly establish if the table is worth playing at, i.e. more than say 2/3 and I'm gone. Next type is bad players and if they're really bad just a general note is 'DEAD MONEY NLx' this is a instant signal to stay on the table and ofc the more of these the better , but also I try to add note why they are proper awful like 'open limp UTG w/79o call 4x raise pre, call down 3 streets w/2nd pair etc, once I have that I don't need many more notes lol. On following me, prepared to be bored to death lol, Seriously though I don't think that's needed, just table select properly and play your cards EXACTLY like NL4/8 Good luck once again matey Posted by Dudeskin8
ty dude. Im going to give you a pm as there was a player yesterday that i feel fell into both the cats you mmentioned above. As that obviously made the note a little weird im going to pm you for a little guidance on this matter.
If you do not wish to respond then i have full respect to that.
NL10 can b such a grind think i played 3 hours worth of it last night. You were on 4 of my tables for a while think we only got involved in 1 hand. (might post if i can find it)
I look at some of the hands you post and i dont know how you see so many cards, i the 3 hours i played i never had all my stack in the middle once + AK has now become my most hated hand I never seem to hit with it and when I do i only get out drawn.
I think given time you will be able to beat it and move higher up the levels
NL10 can b such a grind think i played 3 hours worth of it last night. You were on 4 of my tables for a while think we only got involved in 1 hand. (might post if i can find it) I look at some of the hands you post and i dont know how you see so many cards, i the 3 hours i played i never had all my stack in the middle once + AK has now become my most hated hand I never seem to with it and when I do i only get out drawn. I think given time you will be able to beat it and move higher up the levels Posted by PiAnOpLaYa
would help if i could get em to hold.
Btw, lil story for yesterday. While on NL10 (only NL10) i played 45 pocket pairs. I hit a total or 3 sets. Never got to showdown with any. Although my sets did balance out on NL8 fwiw.
Anyways my point was i think this was a huge issue. I was dwindling alot of blinds set mining and when i hit i couldnt get the value out of them.
Sometimes its just not your day.
Yea to be fair mate i knew you as a reg and therefore expessially when ive just came up i think only a cooler was probably getting it in together. I do hope to have many pots with you one day, maybe when im more sisably rolled and holding the nuts lol. - keep dreaming don.
In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary : would help if i could get em to hold. Btw, lil story for yesterday. While on NL10 (only NL10) i played 45 pocket pairs. I hit a total or 3 sets. Never got to showdown with any. Although my sets did balance out on NL8 fwiw. Anyways my point was i think this was a huge issue. I was dwindling alot of blinds set mining and when i hit i couldnt get the value out of them. Sometimes its just not your day. Yea to be fair mate i knew you as a reg and therefore expessially when ive just came up i think only a cooler was probably getting it in together. I do hope to have many pots with you one day, maybe when im more sisably rolled and holding the nuts lol. - keep dreaming don. Posted by The_Don90
Wouldnt go as far as to say reg, pretty sure im a huge fish at cash, been trying to tighten my range loads and stop playing like its a MTT which I really struggle with at times.
I find some of the play so bad at this level just cant seem to beat it consistantly
KQ - Turn check isn't awful as ace is probably like worst card you can see as it stops you having top pair, river probably bet for value and call shove.
QQ - Cooler, Q turn even worse as you have blockers lol
33 - Limp good, 1st raise can call, God knows why Heed is limping in SB then 3betting, horrible play with that hand but means you have to sigh fold as odds are getting not so good. Final call you call 64p to 'potentially' 10x more but I don't like it one bit. Flop, well you know that's not good.
Reason you can't tilt is you feel bad enough when you lose getting unlucky but to lose when you know you should be out the way is crazy.
guys i know this sounds bad now. ive came all this way. but clearly i still cant deal with the variance. as a result i think its just best to call it a day
In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary : Sure your not missing one! You cant expect to just walk throught each level with ease, its going to take time and eventually you will get there Posted by PiAnOpLaYa
i have full worrys of that. What im getting at is i got pwnd at NL8 today. A level i was conmfortably beating. Clearly i cant cope with variance so clearly i cant play poker.
In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary : i have full worrys of that. What im getting at is i got pwnd at NL8 today. A level i was conmfortably beating. Clearly i cant cope with variance so clearly i cant play poker. Posted by The_Don90
you had one bad session? if you really think thats bad then yes quit poker. otherwise man up, review your hands see your OBVIOUS errors and correct them
In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary : i have full worrys of that. What im getting at is i got pwnd at NL8 today. A level i was conmfortably beating. Clearly i cant cope with variance so clearly i cant play poker. Posted by The_Don90
Tournament varience is even worse!
The hardest thing with cash is knowing when to quit and not tilting away a buy in before you call it quits.
If a session isnt going your way there's nothing wrong with leaving all tbles making a coffee and coming back in a better frame of mind.
There's a big difference with not being able to play poker and tilting!!
In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary : you had one bad session? if you really think thats bad then yes quit poker. otherwise man up, review your hands see your OBVIOUS errors and correct them Posted by lynx3ffect
Your looking at a few bad sessions.
YEs there are obvious errors. Mostly caused by TILT. And im the first to admit errors. Infact go back 2 pages, i think dudeskin said one had was a stack and i was extememly critical of my play.
lol how the **** do you cope with the higher variance in MTT's ? Seriously get a grip Don, just give up poker FULL STOP PERIOD END OF Why can't you understand the basic principles of percentages and while they have 5% it means you will get beat 5/100. seriously dude, handle the variance like a man Also stop listening to people who tell you "your so much better than NL4,NL8" Prove it to yourself that you can beat it over the LONG TERM, not a few buy ins QUIT.COM Posted by rancid
i dont why u think i came to cash
Also i know myself im better than NL4/NL8/NL10. Not sounding harsh to anyone. Ive studied the game competed with good quality players.
Like i stated at the top of this thread i cant cope with variance. Im considering my opinions atm. Maybe yes i do over-react. But everythin i do in poker and life is based on pure confidence. Something which i may state ive never had a lot of.
How did you cope with the variance at NL4 especially when your BR in terms of BI's was much smaller, I'd imagine losing a big hand then must have hurt much more ?
How did you cope with the variance at NL4 especially when your BR in terms of BI's was much smaller, I'd imagine losing a big hand then must have hurt much more ? Posted by Dudeskin8
Being honest mate, losing and buy ins never went hand in hand with me.
Ive lost hands with 1Buy in and reacted the same way as i did losing the same hands on stars when i had 500buy ins. I just hate losing.
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On following me, prepared to be bored to death lol, Seriously though I don't think that's needed, just table select properly and play your cards EXACTLY like NL4/8
Good luck once again matey
If you do not wish to respond then i have full respect to that.
I look at some of the hands you post and i dont know how you see so many cards, i the 3 hours i played i never had all my stack in the middle once + AK has now become my most hated hand I never seem to hit with it and when I do i only get out drawn.
I think given time you will be able to beat it and move higher up the levels
Btw, lil story for yesterday. While on NL10 (only NL10) i played 45 pocket pairs. I hit a total or 3 sets. Never got to showdown with any. Although my sets did balance out on NL8 fwiw.
Anyways my point was i think this was a huge issue. I was dwindling alot of blinds set mining and when i hit i couldnt get the value out of them.
Sometimes its just not your day.
Yea to be fair mate i knew you as a reg and therefore expessially when ive just came up i think only a cooler was probably getting it in together. I do hope to have many pots with you one day, maybe when im more sisably rolled and holding the nuts lol.
I find some of the play so bad at this level just cant seem to beat it consistantly
Morning session
Im a donk
KQ – don’t stop betting just because the ace comes, b/f is your friend. Bet for value until they come back at you
QQ – So harsh, cool aid for you
33 – if it ain’t a set then fold
You not doing that much wrong tbh
drop down to NL4, regain some confidence and then go again
Trust me I am finding NL8/NL10 equally as annoying - feel like a yoyo - updownupdownupdownupdownupdownupdown
QQ - Cooler, Q turn even worse as you have blockers lol
33 - Limp good, 1st raise can call, God knows why Heed is limping in SB then 3betting, horrible play with that hand but means you have to sigh fold as odds are getting not so good. Final call you call 64p to 'potentially' 10x more but I don't like it one bit. Flop, well you know that's not good.
Reason you can't tilt is you feel bad enough when you lose getting unlucky but to lose when you know you should be out the way is crazy.
You cant expect to just walk throught each level with ease, its going to take time and eventually you will get there
The hardest thing with cash is knowing when to quit and not tilting away a buy in before you call it quits.
If a session isnt going your way there's nothing wrong with leaving all tbles making a coffee and coming back in a better frame of mind.
There's a big difference with not being able to play poker and tilting!!
YEs there are obvious errors. Mostly caused by TILT. And im the first to admit errors. Infact go back 2 pages, i think dudeskin said one had was a stack and i was extememly critical of my play.
Also i know myself im better than NL4/NL8/NL10. Not sounding harsh to anyone. Ive studied the game competed with good quality players.
Like i stated at the top of this thread i cant cope with variance. Im considering my opinions atm. Maybe yes i do over-react. But everythin i do in poker and life is based on pure confidence. Something which i may state ive never had a lot of.
Ive lost hands with 1Buy in and reacted the same way as i did losing the same hands on stars when i had 500buy ins.
I just hate losing.