In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary : Being honest mate, losing and buy ins never went hand in hand with me. Ive lost hands with 1Buy in and reacted the same way as i did losing the same hands on stars when i had 500buy ins. I just hate losing. Posted by The_Don90
This is good, better than not caring at all, you just have to control the demons in whatever way possible.
A lot of it I think is to do with just clicking buttons to make decisions rather than physically moving money into the middle which is more daunting if you know you're dead and also you can hide behind your screen etc.
Don you are not better than NL4/NL8/NL10 if you can't beat it - face it !
You say you struggle with confidence and essentially your a confidence player. You do play better poker when you feel confident in your game, all winning poker players will tell you this.
But you do say your very confident that you can beat these levels, but you have not.
You need to face facts that all winning poker players suffer with down swings, no matter how good they are.
What makes you a winning poker player long term is to have the character to carry on and to not let it affect you.
If you can't do so this then you will never be a winning poker player, whatever your skill level if you tilt and blow a stack with a pr of 3's )
There a book, "The Mental game of poker" you should have a read, I think it will help you
The good news is Don, you have the edge to beat the level
The bad news, your mind can not handle playing against bad players and loosing
But you want to play these bad players all the time, so your stuck in this spot for ever and ever and ever otherwise your just going to be playing better players who take your money
chin up
This is a very amusing diary and actually a very true one
lol how the **** do you cope with the higher variance in MTT's ? Seriously get a grip Don, just give up poker FULL STOP PERIOD END OF Why can't you understand the basic principles of percentages and while they have 5% it means you will get beat 5/100. seriously dude, handle the variance like a man Also stop listening to people who tell you "your so much better than NL4,NL8" Prove it to yourself that you can beat it over the LONG TERM, not a few buy ins QUIT.COM Posted by rancid
+ a gazillion. Don, i really do not understand you pal. I think your biggest problem is your ego m8.
As has been said on countless occasions on this and all your other similar threads, by some of the most
experienced and respected players on the site, STOP POSTING EVERY FKKING HAND, and spend more time
just playing. By posting so many hands and discussing your thought processes every man and his dog has
JJ - fine AA - shove turn The good news is Don, you have the edge to beat the level The bad news, your mind can not handle playing against bad players and loosing But you want to play these bad players all the time, so your stuck in this spot for ever and ever and ever otherwise your just going to be playing better players who take your money chin up This is a very amusing diary and actually a very true one Posted by rancid
Looking back on yesterday. I did try and push myself way too much. The good thing is i am capable of making notes while on 6 tables. probably not as much as i needed but thats still some all the same. Ive picked out a couple of people who i suspect to be regs, and i also picked out some good value opponents. Although still one im very un decided on. Although i have to say i was staggered by the amount of notes i seen labelled as NL4 and recent. Anyways ive dropped back down but while im not playing i may consider even just watching NL10. I think i let a few coolers/bad beats get ontop of me yesterday and that isnt exactly ideal. FAO Dudeskin i may look for you if your playing at somepoint on NL10 and see how you play it. Im not scouting on you but i wana know what im looking for and clearly i completely missed something yesterday. The road to recovery may take a few days or weeks but i fully believe ill be rolled for NL10 again in no time. But i think i learnt something yesterday tbh. Posted by The_Don90
tbf you have turned 40 quid into 160 over an 8 week period using brm.
Quadroupled your roll.
U did it by grinding, playing well, playing often, and minimizing the tilt.
Saying "I was on a heater" is just rubbish, you did it properly, you didn't sping it up overnight, or even over 4/5 sessions.
Stop feeling sorry for yourself.
The 8 weeks of winning wasn't a heater, the 2 days of losing isn't a downswing. It's all standard, and now you have the roll to handle it.
Check out the "profit" thread. Scotty/lolraise/rentisdue all have individual and back to back sessions where they get their backsides spanked. They all have losing poker sessions too.
In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary : + a gazillion. Don, i really do not understand you pal. I think your biggest problem is your ego m8. As has been said on countless occasions on this and all your other similar threads, by some of the most experienced and respected players on the site, STOP POSTING EVERY FKKING HAND, and spend more time just playing. By posting so many hands and discussing your thought processes every man and his dog has notes on you that read like war and peace m8. JUST PLAY CARDS>...... Posted by pomfrittes
you didn't sping it up overnight, or even over 4/5 sessions.
^^ spinning it up ftw JJ obv.
Don i want to ask a question
why do you do this im quitting poker thing sooo often then back playing 1-2hours later, i know you don't want to quit you have to stop saying every time you have a bad run ohh F this im quitting everything isn't going to click over night you played what 2-3 sessions at 10nl didn't go great and you snap quit you have to know it just isn;t going to go great straight away and you know that already
so get back at it stop saying you are quitting and just get through it and stop just playing strictly one level ie just 10nl just 8nl... play all the levels you can where the 'dead money' is at its obvious you have no confidence AGAIN so build it back up !
you didn't sping it up overnight, or even over 4/5 sessions. ^^ spinning it up ftw JJ obv. Don i want to ask a question why do you do this im quitting poker thing sooo often then back playing 1-2hours later, i know you don't want to quit you have to stop saying every time you have a bad run ohh F this im quitting everything isn't going to click over night you played what 2-3 sessions at 10nl didn't go great and you snap quit you have to know it just isn;t going to go great straight away and you know that already so get back at it stop saying you are quitting and just get through it and stop just playing strictly one level ie just 10nl just 8nl... play all the levels you can where the 'dead money' is at its obvious you have no confidence AGAIN so build it back up ! Posted by delaney09
Ive dropped back to nl8 and still losing, its killing me. Im £90 down in 2 days. Thats a weeks money to me.
I actually do want to quit i have no will to play ATM BEING HONEST THERE.
P.S. Whats the hand hisotry for that hand mate curious as to what i had. Can remember the hand just not wht i had lol.
In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary : Expand <----------------- /> what's the reason Posted by rancid
he said we had one hand together hed post it up if he could find it. Not taking it as a rubdown at all. Ill just call A high next time. Tbf i have to fold pretty much everything on that river as all the draw land.
AA v KQs, you are a fave longterm you know that, yes he hit the diamond this time but overall you print money there.
Don't know if you watched Profit thread in September but I had similar problems at NL10, got to around £340 and twice dropped down to around £270 through two almost identical runs of bad form but each time I knew I was doing the right things and this month I finally broke through the barrier to reach the £400 mark. I could have 'quit' like you did each time but I just kept going and knew eventually it will go good.
It sounds really boring but honestly you just have to suck it up and keep playing, no moaning or pretend 'quitting' just keep playing and iron out the variance.
In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary : Ive dropped back to nl8 and still losing, its killing me. Im £90 down in 2 days. Thats a weeks money to me. I actually do want to quit i have no will to play ATM BEING HONEST THERE. P.S. Whats the hand hisotry for that hand mate curious as to what i had. Can remember the hand just not wht i had lol. Posted by The_Don90
thats the problem
quit if you can't put the value of the money outside of your head.
my mum has a part time job and earns like 700/month. its not unusual for me to be down that in the course of a single session. if i wasn't able to distance myself from that value of money then i wouldn't be able to play.
In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary : thats the problem quit if you can't put the value of the money outside of your head. my mum has a part time job and earns like 700/month. its not unusual for me to be down that in the course of a single session. if i wasn't able to distance myself from that value of money then i wouldn't be able to play. Posted by scotty77
Don, I used to have this problem too, but then I realised if you are in profit overall you havn't really lost anything.
You're thinking in the short term "Oh no, I've lost £90" But if you think of the long term you're actually up about £120 since starting this thread.
don, i dont know if you are aware of this but back in june i was playing nl 30/40/50 as you know, i lost 30 bis in that mnth and it nearly crippled me, i to dropped back to nl20 and got hit and nl10 wasnt much better. every self doubt you have now i went through 4mnths ago. i have built it back up( not all the way by far) by mixing up multi tablin 4/8 and single nl 20/30 (with good table selection). like i say been there mate. dont give up, you have got a great game. pm me if you want a chat, we are on the same journey im just 4mnth ahead of you. phil
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you can do it man up! stop being so dramatic and quitting every bad session!
A lot of it I think is to do with just clicking buttons to make decisions rather than physically moving money into the middle which is more daunting if you know you're dead and also you can hide behind your screen etc.
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Umm yeah
Btw i already own the mental game of poker and clearly it hasnt helped.
biggest winning pot
Im having no more debates about me being better or not better than low stakes cash btw.
Wasnt posted as a rub down
^^ spinning it up ftw JJ obv.
Don i want to ask a question
why do you do this im quitting poker thing sooo often then back playing 1-2hours later, i know you don't want to quit you have to stop saying every time you have a bad run ohh F this im quitting everything isn't going to click over night you played what 2-3 sessions at 10nl didn't go great and you snap quit you have to know it just isn;t going to go great straight away and you know that already
so get back at it stop saying you are quitting and just get through it and stop just playing strictly one level ie just 10nl just 8nl... play all the levels you can where the 'dead money' is at its obvious you have no confidence AGAIN so build it back up !
I actually do want to quit i have no will to play ATM BEING HONEST THERE.
P.S. Whats the hand hisotry for that hand mate curious as to what i had. Can remember the hand just not wht i had lol.
Don't know if you watched Profit thread in September but I had similar problems at NL10, got to around £340 and twice dropped down to around £270 through two almost identical runs of bad form but each time I knew I was doing the right things and this month I finally broke through the barrier to reach the £400 mark. I could have 'quit' like you did each time but I just kept going and knew eventually it will go good.
It sounds really boring but honestly you just have to suck it up and keep playing, no moaning or pretend 'quitting' just keep playing and iron out the variance.
You're thinking in the short term "Oh no, I've lost £90" But if you think of the long term you're actually up about £120 since starting this thread.
Get in the right mindset