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taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary

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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,818
    edited October 2011
    In reponce to Bandini i meant i was going back as i felt the value was there.

    15th Oct

    Night session part 2

    Looking over the HH of the last session i wasnt happy with 2 things, A) standing with that much value around. B) playing like a complete ape.

    Anyways i sat back down and yes it was turblent but ive managed to recover some losses. Again however  i made a few daft calls.
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    er425 Small blind  £0.04 £0.04 £3.94
    The_Don90 Big blind  £0.08 £0.12 £16.68
     Your hole cards
    • A
    • A
       
    stevewha09 Fold     
    chippykyc Call  £0.08 £0.20 £10.26
    nessa779 Call  £0.08 £0.28 £4.99
    er425 Call  £0.04 £0.32 £3.90
    The_Don90 Raise  £0.48 £0.80 £16.20
    chippykyc Call  £0.48 £1.28 £9.78
    nessa779 Call  £0.48 £1.76 £4.51
    er425 Fold     
    Flop
      
    • 8
    • 2
    • 6
       
    The_Don90 Bet  £1.32 £3.08 £14.88
    chippykyc Fold     
    nessa779 Call  £1.32 £4.40 £3.19
    Turn
      
    • 3
       
    The_Don90 Bet  £3.30 £7.70 £11.58
    nessa779 All-in  £3.19 £10.89 £0.00
    The_Don90 Unmatched bet  £0.11 £10.78 £11.69
    The_Don90 Show
    • A
    • A
       
    nessa779 Show
    • 5
    • 3
       
    River
      
    • J
       
    The_Don90 Win Pair of Aces £9.97  £21.66
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    shark11 Small blind  £0.04 £0.04 £13.35
    ayauasca_a Big blind  £0.08 £0.12 £8.60
     Your hole cards
    • A
    • J
       
    slim55 Fold     
    bankster1 Raise  £0.40 £0.52 £31.87
    The_Don90 Call  £0.40 £0.92 £7.60
    shark11 Fold     
    ayauasca_a Call  £0.32 £1.24 £8.28
    Flop
      
    • 2
    • J
    • 9
       
    ayauasca_a Check     
    bankster1 Check     
    The_Don90 Bet  £0.93 £2.17 £6.67
    ayauasca_a Call  £0.93 £3.10 £7.35
    bankster1 Fold     
    Turn
      
    • 5
       
    ayauasca_a Check     
    The_Don90 Bet  £2.33 £5.43 £4.34
    ayauasca_a All-in  £7.35 £12.78 £0.00
    The_Don90 All-in  £4.34 £17.12 £0.00
    ayauasca_a Unmatched bet  £0.68 £16.44 £0.68
    ayauasca_a Show
    • Q
    • A
       
    The_Don90 Show
    • A
    • J
       
    River
      
    • 7
       
    The_Don90 Win Pair of Jacks £15.20  £15.20
    This hand, the flop completely confused me, tbh i was folding a 9 high flop. Because of the flop confusion i called turn and hit miricle river.
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    ayauasca_a Small blind  £0.04 £0.04 £11.14
    crazynails Big blind  £0.08 £0.12 £1.72
     Your hole cards
    • 10
    • 10
       
    slim55 Call  £0.08 £0.20 £1.48
    bankster1 Call  £0.08 £0.28 £41.25
    The_Don90 Raise  £0.40 £0.68 £13.96
    shark11 Call  £0.40 £1.08 £3.75
    ayauasca_a Raise  £1.64 £2.72 £9.50
    crazynails Fold     
    slim55 Fold     
    bankster1 Fold     
    The_Don90 Call  £1.28 £4.00 £12.68
    shark11 Fold     
    Flop
      
    • 8
    • 2
    • 2
       
    ayauasca_a Check     
    The_Don90 Check     
    Turn
      
    • 4
       
    ayauasca_a Bet  £2.00 £6.00 £7.50
    The_Don90 Call  £2.00 £8.00 £10.68
    River
      
    • 10
       
    ayauasca_a Bet  £4.00 £12.00 £3.50
    The_Don90 All-in  £10.68 £22.68 £0.00
    ayauasca_a All-in  £3.50 £26.18 £0.00
    The_Don90 Unmatched bet  £3.18 £23.00 £3.18
    ayauasca_a Show
    • Q
    • Q
       
    The_Don90 Show
    • 10
    • 10
       
    The_Don90 Win Full House, 10s and 2s £21.60  £24.78
    Again here im not sure on this hand. Villian was all over the place and tbh, every time i managed to get in ahead he binked, so i guess this is what spite does to you.
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    The_Don90 Small blind  £0.04 £0.04 £9.13
    shark11 Big blind  £0.08 £0.12 £11.97
     Your hole cards
    • J
    • J
       
    ayauasca_a Fold     
    slim55 Call  £0.08 £0.20 £2.18
    bankster1 Call  £0.08 £0.28 £23.94
    The_Don90 Raise  £0.36 £0.64 £8.77
    shark11 Call  £0.32 £0.96 £11.65
    slim55 Call  £0.32 £1.28 £1.86
    bankster1 Call  £0.32 £1.60 £23.62
    Flop
      
    • 6
    • 7
    • 3
       
    The_Don90 Bet  £1.20 £2.80 £7.57
    shark11 Fold     
    slim55 Fold     
    bankster1 Call  £1.20 £4.00 £22.42
    Turn
      
    • K
       
    The_Don90 Bet  £2.00 £6.00 £5.57
    bankster1 Call  £2.00 £8.00 £20.42
    River
      
    • 8
       
    The_Don90 Check     
    bankster1 All-in  £20.42 £28.42 £0.00
    The_Don90 All-in  £5.57 £33.99 £0.00
    bankster1 Unmatched bet  £14.85 £19.14 £14.85
    The_Don90 Show
    • J
    • J
       
    bankster1 Show
    • 4
    • K
       
    bankster1 Win Pair of Kings £17.74  £32.59
    Im a right homer simpson here. How easy do i need a fold to be.
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    er425 Small blind  £0.04 £0.04 £4.45
    The_Don90 Big blind  £0.08 £0.12 £28.37
     Your hole cards
    • 10
    • J
       
    SAM159 Call  £0.08 £0.20 £5.89
    nessa779 Call  £0.08 £0.28 £4.45
    ashers Call  £0.08 £0.36 £1.22
    er425 Call  £0.04 £0.40 £4.41
    The_Don90 Check     
    Flop
      
    • 7
    • J
    • 2
       
    er425 Check     
    The_Don90 Bet  £0.30 £0.70 £28.07
    SAM159 Call  £0.30 £1.00 £5.59
    nessa779 Fold     
    ashers Fold     
    er425 Fold     
    Turn
      
    • 6
       
    The_Don90 Bet  £0.75 £1.75 £27.32
    SAM159 Raise  £2.00 £3.75 £3.59
    The_Don90 Call  £1.25 £5.00 £26.07
    River
      
    • 8
       
    The_Don90 Check     
    SAM159 All-in  £3.59 £8.59 £0.00
    The_Don90 Call  £3.59 £12.18 £22.48
    The_Don90 Show
    • 10
    • J
       
    SAM159 Show
    • K
    • K
       
    SAM159 Win Pair of Kings £11.26  £11.26
    Closing Balance: £201.41

    Recovered losses well and learnt something in doing so. Dont leave the table when theres a fish around. Im leaving now as i need to go to asda and the guy who i felt had most value took his 500BB and ran. I was just sitting waiting for a spot but it wasnt fothcomming.
  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited October 2011
    Yh that A4s hand is insane, you know that so don't **** do it again !

    JJ, nasty turn, you have to bet it and tbh kinda sick he hits top pair there, tough when he sets you in probably 50-50 for call.

    J10 at the end looks like spew to me, turn I don't think you beat ANYTHING, river again gotta fold.

    Overall though this level is pure value town, just about dodging beats and not tilting yourself. ;)
  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,818
    edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:
    Yh that A4s hand is insane, you know that so don't **** do it again ! JJ, nasty turn, you have to bet it and tbh kinda sick he hits top pair there, tough when he sets you in probably 50-50 for call. J10 at the end looks like spew to me, turn I don't think you beat ANYTHING, river again gotta fold. Overall though this level is pure value town, just about dodging beats and not tilting yourself. ;)
    Posted by Dudeskin8
    yea i know ur right mate. im really not happy with how i played in honesty. Although i think i know the issue that caused it. I had a tourny running on stars which plays completely differently from all sort of sane poker, i think that really effected my game. Should slap myself for that.

    However i think i showed caracter last night by willing to go through a full set of Hand Historys realise theres value and that im also playing bad. Yes i still didnt play close to well but i did play far better than what i had done throughout the previous 2 hours and i managed to recover.

    The Jacks v K4 hand, im really bamboozled by that hand. Also the TT hand which you didnt mention im guessing thats a good thing.

    I think by doing things a little differently ive developed as a player. I know thats came at a cost of a buy in, but i really proved alot to myself last night. I think thats worth 100 buy ins. And long term i think if i can keep learning i might actually cut out the stupid daft mistakes.
  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited October 2011
    A4 hand fold flop, pre is fine imo

    JJ shove river

    JT is an easy fold on turn, I'm not sure I lead flop 5way
  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,818
    edited October 2011
    16th Oct

    Lone session

    I was trying to stay up longer but ive been up since 10.30 last night and tbh its really kicked in. Id found a second wind which got me through most of the afternoon but im past it now. Anyways this wa a phenomial day. After my disappointment of last night i done my usual sunday. 2 primo sats. Never got anywhere. To add to the mix i noticed a £300 overlay on a UKOPs sat. Bingo into that for £4. Gave myself a goodd chance at that to bu6y one river later i was crippled no biggie. Saving my run down for cash, £10 is only one buy in right.

    Anyways too many hands to post, so im posting highest value only.
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    PIEMAN180 Small blind  £0.04 £0.04 £6.68
    The_Don90 Big blind  £0.08 £0.12 £8.46
    oswaldfich Big blind  £0.08 £0.20 £7.92
    Daniel-son Big blind  £0.08 £0.28 £8.25
     Your hole cards
    • 5
    • 5
       
    oswaldfich Check     
    rancid Call  £0.08 £0.36 £9.27
    Daniel-son Check     
    sisat1973 Raise  £0.32 £0.68 £11.48
    PIEMAN180 Fold     
    The_Don90 Call  £0.24 £0.92 £8.22
    oswaldfich Call  £0.24 £1.16 £7.68
    rancid Call  £0.24 £1.40 £9.03
    Daniel-son Fold     
    Flop
      
    • A
    • 4
    • 5
       
    The_Don90 Bet  £1.08 £2.48 £7.14
    oswaldfich Call  £1.08 £3.56 £6.60
    rancid Fold     
    sisat1973 Call  £1.08 £4.64 £10.40
    Turn
      
    • 7
       
    The_Don90 Bet  £3.51 £8.15 £3.63
    oswaldfich Call  £3.51 £11.66 £3.09
    sisat1973 All-in  £10.40 £22.06 £0.00
    The_Don90 All-in  £3.63 £25.69 £0.00
    oswaldfich Fold     
    sisat1973 Unmatched bet  £3.26 £22.43 £3.26
    The_Don90 Show
    • 5
    • 5
       
    sisat1973 Show
    • Q
    • A
       
    River
      
    • 2
       
    The_Don90 Win Three 5s £21.07  £21.07
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    cusse10 Small blind  £0.04 £0.04 £10.51
    ktc2 Big blind  £0.08 £0.12 £3.12
     Your hole cards
    • K
    • K
       
    The_Don90 Raise  £0.32 £0.44 £7.66
    Geosarge Fold     
    adhawkins Fold     
    cusse10 Call  £0.28 £0.72 £10.23
    ktc2 Fold     
    Flop
      
    • K
    • A
    • 10
       
    cusse10 Check     
    The_Don90 Bet  £0.54 £1.26 £7.12
    cusse10 Raise  £1.08 £2.34 £9.15
    The_Don90 Raise  £1.98 £4.32 £5.14
    cusse10 All-in  £9.15 £13.47 £0.00
    The_Don90 All-in  £5.14 £18.61 £0.00
    cusse10 Unmatched bet  £2.57 £16.04 £2.57
    cusse10 Show
    • K
    • 10
       
    The_Don90 Show
    • K
    • K
       
    Turn
      
    • A
       
    River
      
    • J
       
    The_Don90 Win Full House, Kings and Aces £14.83  £14.83
    not happy with this one tbh.
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    adhawkins Small blind  £0.04 £0.04 £9.49
    tankspice1 Big blind  £0.08 £0.12 £5.19
     Your hole cards
    • A
    • Q
       
    daklan Call  £0.08 £0.20 £5.06
    duonross Call  £0.08 £0.28 £16.71
    The_Don90 Raise  £0.40 £0.68 £16.82
    Geosarge Raise  £1.36 £2.04 £13.79
    adhawkins Fold     
    tankspice1 Fold     
    daklan Fold     
    duonross Fold     
    The_Don90 Call  £0.96 £3.00 £15.86
    Flop
      
    • Q
    • 8
    • 6
       
    The_Don90 Check     
    Geosarge Bet  £1.50 £4.50 £12.29
    The_Don90 Call  £1.50 £6.00 £14.36
    Turn
      
    • 6
       
    The_Don90 Check     
    Geosarge Check     
    River
      
    • 7
       
    The_Don90 Check     
    Geosarge Bet  £3.00 £9.00 £9.29
    The_Don90 Call  £3.00 £12.00 £11.36
    Geosarge Show
    • J
    • J
       
    The_Don90 Show
    • A
    • Q
       
    The_Don90 Win Two Pairs, Queens and 6s £11.10  £22.46
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    SCOUT49 Small blind  £0.04 £0.04 £2.65
    pokertiger Big blind  £0.08 £0.12 £1.40
     Your hole cards
    • A
    • A
       
    The_Don90 Raise  £0.32 £0.44 £13.80
    necrochimp Fold     
    svenstr8s Call  £0.32 £0.76 £6.86
    SCOUT49 Fold     
    pokertiger Call  £0.24 £1.00 £1.16
    Flop
      
    • 6
    • 10
    • 7
       
    pokertiger Check     
    The_Don90 Bet  £0.75 £1.75 £13.05
    svenstr8s Call  £0.75 £2.50 £6.11
    pokertiger Call  £0.75 £3.25 £0.41
    Turn
      
    • 4
       
    pokertiger Check     
    The_Don90 Bet  £2.44 £5.69 £10.61
    svenstr8s Call  £2.44 £8.13 £3.67
    pokertiger All-in  £0.41 £8.54 £0.00
    River
      
    • 10
       
    The_Don90 Bet  £4.27 £12.81 £6.34
    svenstr8s All-in  £3.67 £16.48 £0.00
    The_Don90 Unmatched bet  £0.60 £15.88 £6.94
    pokertiger Show
    • J
    • 9
       
    The_Don90 Show
    • A
    • A
       
    svenstr8s Show
    • A
    • 8
       
    svenstr8s Win Flush to the Ace £14.68  £14.68
    Closing Balance: £226.53

    So close. Knew i would be close when i finnished but i was too tired to try and push. plus i felt that would lead to mistakes. Anyways Back to NL8 after a snooze and then the following session will hopefully be NL10. Also to note of how much im increasing grind. Ive already broke the most ive ever had for a months C4P with still half the month to go.
  • Poker_FailPoker_Fail Member Posts: 1,755
    edited October 2011
    Grats on almost making it to NL10, Keep it going :)
  • stienstien Member Posts: 332
    edited October 2011
    Don when I have played at this level (ok I don't take it too serious I know but) I have found that getting callers isn't a problem, the number of callers is the issue. IMO at this level your 4x raise size is too small, with 2 limpers you only 5x it, as a minimum its got to be 4x plus one for each limper but I would suggest you try 6x plus one for each limper and see how you go. I've have got plenty of callers with 10x and more.

    A bigger pre flop raise = a bigger pot pre, your raising pre because you believe you have a strong hand now so get more money in the pot now. A bigger pre flop pot means your flop/turn bets can be bigger so you can get all the money in quicker post flop if you decide to, exactly what you want to do when your raising pre with the strongest part of your range. 

    On the flop with a strong made hand you bet 3/4 pot, I would just pot it as a minimum, try over pot betting it too, if they are calling charge them while you believe you have the best hand. Looking at the last AA hand you only have 40% equity v 92ss and QTo for example, if 92ss was 56ss you have only 34% equity on the flop v 2 villains, sure you're very likely ahead now but charging them 3/4 pot is just too cheap. I would also pot/jam the turn, by raising more pre and potting the flop its easier to get your stack in on the turn. I just don't believe these guys care what the bet size is, if they are calling they are calling so charge them as much as they will pay. 

    Finally when you get 3 or 4 bet and you have AK why take a race when their range is QQ+ and AK has only 38% equity v this range. You play at this level so feel free to tell me i'm wrong but racing as a dog at this level makes no sense to me. Sure higher up we need to get it in pre with AK and worse but at nl8 how many are able to exploit you on the few occasions you raise with AK and fold to an obvious RR thats QQ+ all day long.  
  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,818
    edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:
    Don when I have played at this level (ok I don't take it too serious I know but) I have found that getting callers isn't a problem, the number of callers is the issue. IMO at this level your 4x raise size is too small, with 2 limpers you only 5x it, as a minimum its got to be 4x plus one for each limper but I would suggest you try 6x plus one for each limper and see how you go. I've have got plenty of callers with 10x and more. A bigger pre flop raise = a bigger pot pre, your raising pre because you believe you have a strong hand now so get more money in the pot now. A bigger pre flop pot means your flop/turn bets can be bigger so you can get all the money in quicker post flop if you decide to, exactly what you want to do when your raising pre with the strongest part of your range.  On the flop with a strong made hand you bet 3/4 pot, I would just pot it as a minimum, try over pot betting it too, if they are calling charge them while you believe you have the best hand. Looking at the last AA hand you only have 40% equity v 92ss and QTo for example, if 92ss was 56ss you have only 34% equity on the flop v 2 villains, sure you're very likely ahead now but charging them 3/4 pot is just too cheap. I would also pot/jam the turn, by raising more pre and potting the flop its easier to get your stack in on the turn. I just don't believe these guys care what the bet size is, if they are calling they are calling so charge them as much as they will pay.  Finally when you get 3 or 4 bet and you have AK why take a race when their range is QQ+ and AK has only 38% equity v this range. You play at this level so feel free to tell me i'm wrong but racing as a dog at this level makes no sense to me. Sure higher up we need to get it in pre with AK and worse but at nl8 how many are able to exploit you on the few occasions you raise with AK and fold to an obvious RR thats QQ+ all day long.  
    Posted by stien
    Stien im confused as to what hands we're discussing.

    tbh im about rolled for my target for moving up, NL8 has been a rollercoaster ride, although tbh it was an mtt win losing at cash for 2/3 days then ive ebeen winning since. Bar one session where i played terrible last night. I have full respect for what your saying. Ive found at NL8 more than at NL4 you need to find how to get value from regs. Maybe because i prefer playing 4-6 tables really doesnt help you on a limit like NL8 where theres only ever 6 - 7 tables at most running. That means im bumping into the regs on a solid basis.

    Ive found at NL8 unlike at NL4, a 32p raise (16p equivellent for NL4) is often enough to ghet a HU pot. Obviously i do pick up fish and last night i have had tables where i open twice and on occassions triple that amount. Tbh there was one guy who never folded pre once if he put money in the pot so i double my open, then kept adding to it till he folded pre. Now tis wasnt to see if he'd fold, this was to see how much can i get out of him pre and he was c/f 99% of flops.

    ty for some good feedback although if you can direct me to the hands we're discussing i might be able to follow it a little better. :)

    Don
  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,818
    edited October 2011

    17th Oct

    Early morning session

    Tbh this session didnt last long, due to tables dying constantly. In the end i decided to stop for now and wait for more value later. I tried NL8 was only one game running and it was full, NL4 was full of shorties so NL10 shot seemed ok. I managed to get onto 2 tables and get some imprtortant notes.

    Im not sure what my Profit/loss will be on NL10 yet as really i ahvent been able to get a full assessment of what fair and what isnt. So since theres 3 winning hand above £1 ill show them and whatever losing hands.

    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    sillyluke Small blind  £0.05 £0.05 £11.84
    BIGAL90 Big blind  £0.10 £0.15 £0.96
     Your hole cards
    • A
    • 10
       
    Jonno02 Call  £0.10 £0.25 £10.73
    Cannon223 Raise  £0.30 £0.55 £16.83
    The_Don90 Call  £0.30 £0.85 £9.70
    sillyluke Fold     
    BIGAL90 Fold     
    Jonno02 Call  £0.20 £1.05 £10.53
    Flop
      
    • A
    • 10
    • 6
       
    Jonno02 Check     
    Cannon223 Bet  £0.53 £1.58 £16.30
    The_Don90 Raise  £2.11 £3.69 £7.59
    Jonno02 Fold     
    Cannon223 Fold     
    The_Don90 Muck     
    The_Don90 Win  £1.95  £9.54
    The_Don90 Return  £1.58 £0.16 £11.12
    This hand below i really went to bluffing town, i felt my opponent was weak. As soon as he called i said, Im and Idiot he has AQ, when it was shown i said "im a genuis"
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    Cannon223 Small blind  £0.05 £0.05 £16.15
    The_Don90 Big blind  £0.10 £0.15 £11.02
    bellooww Big blind  £0.10 £0.25 £7.90
     Your hole cards
    • A
    • K
       
    sillyluke Fold     
    BIGAL90 Call  £0.10 £0.35 £2.03
    bellooww Raise  £0.10 £0.45 £7.80
    Jonno02 Fold     
    Cannon223 Call  £0.15 £0.60 £16.00
    The_Don90 Raise  £0.70 £1.30 £10.32
    BIGAL90 Fold     
    bellooww Raise  £1.20 £2.50 £6.60
    Cannon223 Fold     
    The_Don90 Call  £0.60 £3.10 £9.72
    Flop
      
    • 2
    • 9
    • 3
       
    The_Don90 Check     
    bellooww Check     
    Turn
      
    • Q
       
    The_Don90 Check     
    bellooww Bet  £3.10 £6.20 £3.50
    The_Don90 All-in  £9.72 £15.92 £0.00
    bellooww All-in  £3.50 £19.42 £0.00
    The_Don90 Unmatched bet  £3.12 £16.30 £3.12
    The_Don90 Show
    • A
    • K
       
    bellooww Show
    • K
    • 8
       
    River
      
    • 2
       
    The_Don90 Win Pair of 2s £15.07  £18.19
    This hand i was in two minds over. I felt i could re-raise flop but wasnt sure how that would play out at NL10 so i decided to flat and "fish" once the river lands and all the action comes however i think my re-raise is a little too strong,  i think im only ever getting called by a K high flush here. Maybe a smaller raise or what do people think about a flat?
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    elmakem Small blind  £0.05 £0.05 £24.44
    ATID Big blind  £0.10 £0.15 £24.92
     Your hole cards
    • A
    • Q
       
    The_Don90 Raise  £0.30 £0.45 £9.45
    devil_tear Fold     
    elmakem Call  £0.25 £0.70 £24.19
    ATID Call  £0.20 £0.90 £24.72
    Flop
      
    • 9
    • 5
    • 2
       
    elmakem Bet  £0.40 £1.30 £23.79
    ATID Call  £0.40 £1.70 £24.32
    The_Don90 Call  £0.40 £2.10 £9.05
    Turn
      
    • K
       
    elmakem Check     
    ATID Check     
    The_Don90 Check     
    River
      
    • 4
       
    elmakem Bet  £0.10 £2.20 £23.69
    ATID Raise  £1.25 £3.45 £23.07
    The_Don90 Raise  £4.78 £8.23 £4.27
    elmakem Fold     
    ATID Fold     
    The_Don90 Muck     
    The_Don90 Win  £4.34  £8.61
    The_Don90 Return  £3.53 £0.36 £12.14
    This hand below im not putting another penny in if i dont fill on river.
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    ATID Small blind  £0.05 £0.05 £25.04
    The_Don90 Big blind  £0.10 £0.15 £9.90
     Your hole cards
    • Q
    • 6
       
    pealead Fold     
    elmakem Call  £0.10 £0.25 £21.84
    ATID Call  £0.05 £0.30 £24.99
    The_Don90 Check     
    Flop
      
    • Q
    • 3
    • 3
       
    ATID Check     
    The_Don90 Check     
    elmakem Check     
    Turn
      
    • 2
       
    ATID Check     
    The_Don90 Bet  £0.23 £0.53 £9.67
    elmakem Call  £0.23 £0.76 £21.61
    ATID Fold     
    River
      
    • 3
       
    The_Don90 Bet  £0.57 £1.33 £9.10
    elmakem Raise  £2.80 £4.13 £18.81
    The_Don90 Call  £2.23 £6.36 £6.87
    elmakem Show
    • 5
    • 3
       
    The_Don90 Muck
    • Q
    • 6
       
    elmakem Win Four 3s £5.88  £24.69
    Closing Balance: £230.96

    Small winning in a small session from NL10 although alot of hands there im not happy with. Tbh i think its going to take a week or so to properly settle into NL10 but im happy to do that. Im also happy to drop back down. Ive also stated that once i get to £300 i will withdraw £50. This is for a number of reasons which i wish to remain private, but in honesty i cant remember what its like to Withdraw. This will also allow my a little extra time at Nl10 on which i can spend developing my game. £500 the next target for moving on up. Although i may move up sooner than that. I just want to be rolled.
  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,818
    edited October 2011
    17th Oct

    Morning session

    Took a full blown battering to say the least. Tbh i think i didnt find my feet at all. I jumped off the plane and forgot how to land a paracute. I had 3 major issues. A i wasnt running brilliant. B i couldnt find value. C i dont particularly played well.
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    111pete115 Small blind  £0.05 £0.05 £8.00
    The_Don90 Big blind  £0.10 £0.15 £10.83
     Your hole cards
    • 9
    • 9
       
    painy12 Fold     
    kerrim Raise  £0.40 £0.55 £2.35
    J0NSEY Fold     
    111pete115 Call  £0.35 £0.90 £7.65
    The_Don90 Call  £0.30 £1.20 £10.53
    Flop
      
    • 4
    • 10
    • 5
       
    111pete115 Check     
    The_Don90 Check     
    kerrim Bet  £0.60 £1.80 £1.75
    111pete115 Fold     
    The_Don90 Raise  £2.40 £4.20 £8.13
    kerrim All-in  £1.75 £5.95 £0.00
    The_Don90 Unmatched bet  £0.05 £5.90 £8.18
    The_Don90 Show
    • 9
    • 9
       
    kerrim Show
    • 7
    • 7
       
    Turn
      
    • 4
       
    River
      
    • K
       
    The_Don90 Win Two Pairs, 9s and 4s £5.45  £13.63
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    marcus191 Small blind  £0.05 £0.05 £10.30
    mcbay Big blind  £0.10 £0.15 £10.03
     Your hole cards
    • 9
    • A
       
    The_Don90 Raise  £0.30 £0.45 £11.44
    NColley Fold     
    J0NSEY Fold     
    marcus191 Call  £0.25 £0.70 £10.05
    mcbay Call  £0.20 £0.90 £9.83
    Flop
      
    • 7
    • 9
    • 8
       
    marcus191 Check     
    mcbay Bet  £0.68 £1.58 £9.15
    The_Don90 Call  £0.68 £2.26 £10.76
    marcus191 Fold     
    Turn
      
    • 4
       
    mcbay Check     
    The_Don90 Bet  £1.13 £3.39 £9.63
    mcbay Call  £1.13 £4.52 £8.02
    River
      
    • 9
       
    mcbay Check     
    The_Don90 Bet  £2.26 £6.78 £7.37
    mcbay Fold     
    The_Don90 Muck     
    The_Don90 Win  £4.18  £11.55
    The_Don90 Return  £2.26 £0.34 £13.81
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    M_Tutte Small blind  £0.05 £0.05 £4.54
    4ePeH Big blind  £0.10 £0.15 £9.90
     Your hole cards
    • K
    • K
       
    The_Don90 Raise  £0.30 £0.45 £12.96
    gamegenie Fold     
    NColley Fold     
    chimpi16 Fold     
    M_Tutte Call  £0.25 £0.70 £4.29
    4ePeH Call  £0.20 £0.90 £9.70
    Flop
      
    • Q
    • J
    • 2
       
    M_Tutte Check     
    4ePeH Check     
    The_Don90 Bet  £0.68 £1.58 £12.28
    M_Tutte Fold     
    4ePeH Raise  £1.90 £3.48 £7.80
    The_Don90 Raise  £4.75 £8.23 £7.53
    4ePeH All-in  £7.80 £16.03 £0.00
    The_Don90 Call  £4.27 £20.30 £3.26
    4ePeH Show
    • J
    • Q
       
    The_Don90 Show
    • K
    • K
       
    Turn
      
    • 9
       
    River
      
    • 3
       
    4ePeH Win Two Pairs, Queens and Jacks £18.90  £18.90
    Really not happy with this hand tbh. It looks worse every time i look at it.
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    NColley Small blind  £0.05 £0.05 £9.85
    Zeextenr Big blind  £0.10 £0.15 £9.90
     Your hole cards
    • Q
    • Q
       
    J0NSEY Fold     
    111pete115 Call  £0.10 £0.25 £7.81
    The_Don90 Raise  £0.40 £0.65 £13.18
    painy12 Fold     
    NColley Raise  £1.25 £1.90 £8.60
    Zeextenr Fold     
    111pete115 Fold     
    The_Don90 Call  £0.90 £2.80 £12.28
    Flop
      
    • 8
    • 3
    • 9
       
    NColley Bet  £2.10 £4.90 £6.50
    The_Don90 Call  £2.10 £7.00 £10.18
    Turn
      
    • 10
       
    NColley All-in  £6.50 £13.50 £0.00
    The_Don90 Call  £6.50 £20.00 £3.68
    NColley Show
    • K
    • K
       
    The_Don90 Show
    • Q
    • Q
       
    River
      
    • K
       
    NColley Win Three Kings £18.60  £18.60
    Notes told me he has second pair here. Which makes the river even more tilting.
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    4ePeH Small blind  £0.05 £0.05 £18.65
    GAZLEAMAC Big blind  £0.10 £0.15 £32.00
     Your hole cards
    • 8
    • 7
       
    allybungle Fold     
    The_Don90 Raise  £0.30 £0.45 £21.54
    4ePeH Call  £0.25 £0.70 £18.40
    GAZLEAMAC Fold     
    Flop
      
    • 10
    • 9
    • 2
       
    4ePeH Bet  £0.53 £1.23 £17.87
    The_Don90 Raise  £1.85 £3.08 £19.69
    4ePeH Call  £1.32 £4.40 £16.55
    Turn
      
    • Q
       
    4ePeH Check     
    The_Don90 Bet  £3.30 £7.70 £16.39
    4ePeH Call  £3.30 £11.00 £13.25
    River
      
    • 9
       
    4ePeH Bet  £6.70 £17.70 £6.55
    The_Don90 Fold     
    4ePeH Muck     
    4ePeH Win  £10.17  £16.72
    4ePeH Return  £6.70 £0.83 £23.42
    Closing Balance: £205.89
  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited October 2011
    Welcome to the most depressing level on the site.

    H8 nl10. 

    Thing is u gonna be here for ages too, need 400 for nl20.

    U thought nl4 was tough . . . . . . . . . .

    fyl. 
  • NColleyNColley Member Posts: 1,178
    edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:
    Welcome to the most depressing level on the site. H8 nl10.  Thing is u gonna be here for ages too, need 400 for nl20. U thought nl4 was tough . . . . . . . . . . fyl. 
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    This is so true.
  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,818
    edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:
    In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary : This is so true.
    Posted by NColley
    i played those Queens so badly, enjoy the free money lol .
  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited October 2011
    I actually really like NL10 although that's probably due to more proper limp, limp, calling station players.

    That QQ hand is tricky, you can't really fold pre imo, just cooler imo.
  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,818
    edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:
    I actually really like NL10 although that's probably due to more proper limp, limp, calling station players. That QQ hand is tricky, you can't really fold pre imo, just cooler imo.
    Posted by Dudeskin8
    i cant fold pre but by the turn i only beat Jacks,
  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,947
    edited October 2011
    Why is there NL8 and NL10, they play just the same :s



  • DrSharpDrSharp Member Posts: 1,213
    edited October 2011
    ************HIJACK******************

    Firstly, well done Don. 

    Just a couple of questions to whomever feels the need to answer them from someone in a similar situation to The Don90.

    I have now got just shy of $260 in my account after grinding through the levels. I am a BR nit fwiw. I wanted to move up to NL10 once i got to $250. My problem is that after having an absolutely hideous start to NL8 i found that i was at one point $50 down at NL8 (hands like running KK in to AA for example), i have now ground that back and now show a profit of $10 at that level. I dont feel i have bested that level as yet even though i feel very confident there. Just a profit of $10 doesnt sit easy with me. Should i stick around at NL8 a bit longer?

    When i have played NL10 stuff, i have done really well and made good profit. Move up now?

    Why have some commented on the fact that NL10 is a horrible level? Explanation please?

    Thankyou.
  • PiAnOpLaYaPiAnOpLaYa Member Posts: 554
    edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:
    ************HIJACK****************** Firstly, well done Don.  Just a couple of questions to whomever feels the need to answer them from someone in a similar situation to The Don90. I have now got just shy of $260 in my account after grinding through the levels. I am a BR nit fwiw. I wanted to move up to NL10 once i got to $250. My problem is that after having an absolutely hideous start to NL8 i found that i was at one point $50 down at NL8 (hands like running KK in to AA for example), i have now ground that back and now show a profit of $10 at that level. I dont feel i have bested that level as yet even though i feel very confident there. Just a profit of $10 doesnt sit easy with me. Should i stick around at NL8 a bit longer? When i have played NL10 stuff, i have done really well and made good profit. Move up now? Why have some commented on the fact that NL10 is a horrible level? Explanation please? Thankyou.
    Posted by DrSharp

    Horrible level because i takes so long tog et out of it.

    start with £200 and need £400 to get out so thats 20buy ins. where as alot of levels you not need to win as many buy ins to level up.

    FWIW i think you can play NL10 with 25 buy ins happily esp if you have been turning a profit at it all ready.

    I'm hopefully will be playing tonight so there's loads of value down about 5 buyins recently at it :D (think i need to stop playing any 2)



  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited October 2011
    @ Don - he had KK here well done to the dealer but what if he has AK, wouldn't getting it in pre be better ?

    @ Sharp - You don't need £260 to start playing NL10, imo £220 is more than enough maybe less. Oh and you play with POUNDS on Sky not DOLLARS ££££££££££££££££££££, sorry it's tilted me for a while now.
  • DrSharpDrSharp Member Posts: 1,213
    edited October 2011

    @ pianoplaya - got it. I started with 8 quid at NL4 so i am used to being stuck at one level for ages. ;-)

    @ Dudeskin - lmao, dunno where my 'pound' sign is on this **** keyboard so have resigned myself to the fact that i have to use dollars. It tilts me too but i dont know how to change it, i think the keyboard settings were set up incorrectly on this darn laptop. Sorry.
     
    !@#$%^&amp;*()_+{}|":< />?|\`~[]\';,./+-*/  See, no quid sign. Frickin annoys me!

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