taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary

The_Don90 · November 2011

1st Nov

Tea time teaser.

Few differances in my play that will show.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
Smalien	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£3.82
The_Don90	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£4.36
	Your hole cards	3 4
POCKECTJJS	Raise		£0.08	£0.14	£5.91
kelly30	Fold
russ71	Fold
Smalien	Call		£0.06	£0.20	£3.76
The_Don90	Call		£0.04	£0.24	£4.32
Flop
		7 K 4
Smalien	Check
The_Don90	Check
POCKECTJJS	Bet		£0.24	£0.48	£5.67
Smalien	Fold
The_Don90	Call		£0.24	£0.72	£4.08
Turn
		4
The_Don90	Check
POCKECTJJS	Bet		£0.72	£1.44	£4.95
The_Don90	Raise		£2.34	£3.78	£1.74
POCKECTJJS	Call		£1.62	£5.40	£3.33
River
		8
The_Don90	All-in		£1.74	£7.14	£0.00
POCKECTJJS	Call		£1.74	£8.88	£1.59
The_Don90	Show	3 4
POCKECTJJS	Show	A K
The_Don90	Win	Three 4s	£8.21		£8.21

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
NEOPHYTE	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£4.82
BALDYNUT	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£8.70
	Your hole cards	7 7
bishfish1	Fold
The_Don90	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£3.94
1-on-u	Call		£0.04	£0.14	£3.40
Pal494	Fold
NEOPHYTE	Call		£0.02	£0.16	£4.80
BALDYNUT	Check
Flop
		9 7 3
NEOPHYTE	Check
BALDYNUT	Check
The_Don90	Bet		£0.24	£0.40	£3.70
1-on-u	Fold
NEOPHYTE	Fold
BALDYNUT	Call		£0.24	£0.64	£8.46
Turn
		9
BALDYNUT	Check
The_Don90	Bet		£0.64	£1.28	£3.06
BALDYNUT	All-in		£8.46	£9.74	£0.00
The_Don90	All-in		£3.06	£12.80	£0.00
BALDYNUT	Unmatched bet		£4.76	£8.04	£4.76
BALDYNUT	Show	9 K
The_Don90	Show	7 7
River
		4
The_Don90	Win	Full House, 7s and 9s	£7.43		£7.43

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
ernest1214	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£7.12
monster74	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£2.06
	Your hole cards	Q Q
heppsy2000	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£1.51
The_Don90	Raise		£0.28	£0.38	£3.66
jojohall21	Call		£0.28	£0.66	£3.93
ernest1214	Fold
monster74	Call		£0.24	£0.90	£1.82
heppsy2000	Call		£0.24	£1.14	£1.27
Flop
		4 8 9
monster74	Check
heppsy2000	Check
The_Don90	Bet		£1.14	£2.28	£2.52
jojohall21	Call		£1.14	£3.42	£2.79
monster74	Fold
heppsy2000	Fold
Turn
		4
The_Don90	All-in		£2.52	£5.94	£0.00
jojohall21	Call		£2.52	£8.46	£0.27
The_Don90	Show	Q Q
jojohall21	Show	J J
River
		8
The_Don90	Win	Two Pairs, Queens and 8s	£7.82		£7.82

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
hayter06	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£0.66
The_Don90	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£4.24
	Your hole cards	Q Q
1-on-u	Fold
Pal494	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£1.80
NEOPHYTE	Fold
BALDYNUT	Raise		£0.08	£0.18	£4.15
hayter06	Raise		£0.10	£0.28	£0.56
The_Don90	Raise		£0.44	£0.72	£3.80
Pal494	Call		£0.44	£1.16	£1.36
BALDYNUT	All-in		£4.15	£5.31	£0.00
hayter06	All-in		£0.56	£5.87	£0.00
The_Don90	All-in		£3.80	£9.67	£0.00
Pal494	Fold
The_Don90	Unmatched bet		£0.05	£9.62	£0.05
hayter06	Show	K K
The_Don90	Show	Q Q
BALDYNUT	Show	A 6
Flop
		3 8 7
Turn
		7
River
		A
BALDYNUT	Win	Two Pairs, Aces and 7s	£8.89		£8.89

Closing Balance: £128.40

DOHHHHHHH · November 2011

Who are you, Jeffery Bleeding Stelling???

n1 man, how many points?

Points & profit update for the month after each session plz, ty!

Glenelg · November 2011

NIce start Don! BUT, forget the poker what we ALL want to know is How's the love life after spending a week away?? Keep the diary going, It's a great read for an aspiring cash player.
pad

rancid · November 2011

All hands look good keep going )

The_Don90 · November 2011

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:

NIce start Don! BUT, forget the poker what we ALL want to know is How's the love life after spending a week away?? Keep the diary going, It's a great read for an aspiring cash player. pad
Posted by Glenelg

i feel like the dudes from hall pass without the marrage. ive forgotten all me charm. not good.

Dudeskin8 · November 2011

34 - Not sure this is played well, just looks like you made loose call on flop and got super lucky.

77 - Everyone is stacked why no raise pre ?

The_Don90 · November 2011

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:

34 - Not sure this is played well, just looks like you made loose call on flop and got super lucky. 77 - Everyone is stacked why no raise pre ?
Posted by Dudeskin8

i actually called to assess the flop. not sure why tht little voice again.

the 77 hand the table was very active and i felt id be folding most flops so i flatted.

lynx3ffect · November 2011

34 - horrible, fold or raise pre (prefer a fold oop), fold flop

77, if u dont want to play poker then fold pre...

The_Don90 · November 2011

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:

34 - horrible, fold or raise pre (prefer a fold oop), fold flop 77, if u dont want to play poker then fold pre...
Posted by lynx3ffect

Surley this is a bit on the nit side. I will admit t alot of mistakes in my last session but surley set mining v deep oppos with 7;s is ok. I took the stack when i did so surley that makes it a +EV Play long term

grantorino · November 2011

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary : Surley this is a bit on the nit side. I will admit t alot of mistakes in my last session but surley set mining v deep oppos with 7;s is ok. I took the stack when i did so surley that makes it a +EV Play long term
Posted by The_Don90

results based thinking ftw?

You took his stack because you coolered him. Raising is much better than limping with the 77 pre imo

The_Don90 · November 2011

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary : results based thinking ftw? You took his stack because you coolered him. Raising is much better than limping with the 77 pre imo
Posted by grantorino

have a look at how the same vil played A6 in another hand. the very last one QQ v KK v A6. Therefore imo hes gna stack with TPGK anyways.

lynx3ffect · November 2011

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary : Surley this is a bit on the nit side. I will admit t alot of mistakes in my last session but surley set mining v deep oppos with 7;s is ok. I took the stack when i did so surley that makes it a +EV Play long term
Posted by The_Don90

folding is bad pre, obviously,....i was referring to your point about it being a loose table and you were worried about missing your set, hence not raising. This is how you play poker, hence why i made the slightly sarcastic comment of not playing it at all if ur scared of an agro table!

raising pre is what you should be doing, that is the +ev play, not limping

pod1 · November 2011

i dont think there is anything wrong with playing 7s passive. lets be honest unless we hit a 7(which aint a lot) its easy to put down and we havnt invested anymore cash into the pot.

The_Don90 · November 2011

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary : folding is bad pre, obviously,....i was referring to your point about it being a loose table and you were worried about missing your set, hence not raising. This is how you play poker, hence why i made the slightly sarcastic comment of not playing it at all if ur scared of an agro table! raising pre is what you should be doing, that is the +ev play, not limping
Posted by lynx3ffect

i fully respect where ur comming from. What i meant with my comment was the table was aggressive but also seriously loose. I rekon after a raise i could easily get 4 callers and then 3bet on this kind of table. Therefore i went for the flat to set mine.

FWIW i usually would raise this spot, i just never raise Middle pairs at NL4 for some reason. I always just set mine. Maybe a leak to be looked at i agree.

The_Don90 · November 2011

2nd Nov

Tea time teaser

Good session

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
JGIBBRFC	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£3.84
ZedsDeadBa	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£3.85
	Your hole cards	K K
sexyvic	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£2.53
MummyA	Call		£0.04	£0.14	£6.11
Grey_cap	Fold
The_Don90	Raise		£0.32	£0.46	£4.22
JGIBBRFC	Fold
ZedsDeadBa	Fold
sexyvic	Call		£0.28	£0.74	£2.25
MummyA	Call		£0.28	£1.02	£5.83
Flop
		K 9 8
sexyvic	Check
MummyA	Check
The_Don90	Bet		£1.02	£2.04	£3.20
sexyvic	Fold
MummyA	Call		£1.02	£3.06	£4.81
Turn
		6
MummyA	Check
The_Don90	Bet		£2.30	£5.36	£0.90
MummyA	Call		£2.30	£7.66	£2.51
River
		7
MummyA	Check
The_Don90	All-in		£0.90	£8.56	£0.00
MummyA	Call		£0.90	£9.46	£1.61
MummyA	Show	A 7
The_Don90	Show	K K
The_Don90	Win	Three Kings	£8.75		£8.75

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
The_Don90	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£3.86
Dormy4	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£3.51
	Your hole cards	K Q
dcollector	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£1.62
dane_hull	Raise		£0.08	£0.18	£4.18
Grey_cap	Call		£0.08	£0.26	£6.72
The_Don90	Call		£0.06	£0.32	£3.80
Dormy4	Call		£0.04	£0.36	£3.47
dcollector	Call		£0.04	£0.40	£1.58
Flop
		6 J 10
The_Don90	Check
Dormy4	Bet		£0.20	£0.60	£3.27
dcollector	Fold
dane_hull	Call		£0.20	£0.80	£3.98
Grey_cap	Fold
The_Don90	Call		£0.20	£1.00	£3.60
Turn
		A
The_Don90	Bet		£0.75	£1.75	£2.85
Dormy4	Fold
dane_hull	Raise		£1.50	£3.25	£2.48
The_Don90	All-in		£2.85	£6.10	£0.00
dane_hull	Call		£2.10	£8.20	£0.38
The_Don90	Show	K Q
dane_hull	Show	10 10
River
		7
The_Don90	Win	Straight to the Ace	£7.58		£7.58

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
dane_hull	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£6.27
planet432	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£1.99
jodes24	Sit out
	Your hole cards	A K
The_Don90	Raise		£0.20	£0.26	£7.48
trueguns	Call		£0.20	£0.46	£3.72
dcollector	Fold
dane_hull	Fold
planet432	Fold
Flop
		8 A K
The_Don90	Bet		£0.46	£0.92	£7.02
trueguns	Call		£0.46	£1.38	£3.26
Turn
		J
The_Don90	Bet		£1.04	£2.42	£5.98
trueguns	All-in		£3.26	£5.68	£0.00
The_Don90	Call		£2.22	£7.90	£3.76
The_Don90	Show	A K
trueguns	Show	A J
River
		3
The_Don90	Win	Two Pairs, Aces and Kings	£7.30		£11.06

And only one losing hand with a neitive of over 50p

lovley

Closing Balance: £140.59

Lambert180 · November 2011

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:

i dont think there is anything wrong with playing 7s passive. lets be honest unless we hit a 7(which aint a lot) its easy to put down and we havnt invested anymore cash into the pot.
Posted by pod1

Yeah but when you do hit your set, it can really be a big struggle to get their stack in the middle. Assuming we are playing idiots who won't note us up much, you can put aside the fact that it becomes very predictable when you ONLY raise with premium hands and then limp with average hands like 77.

If you're gonna play the hand, it has to be by bringing it in with a raise.

MP33 · November 2011

Doesn,t it sugest on the NL4 blog to limp with pocket pairs at this level ?

Just had a quick session myself on the NL4 after a cpl of $10 DYM 10 player cashes (can,t seem to get many DYM,s at £5 level at this time of night)

Love it when you get someone going all in every hand - had to laugh at this one tho

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
MP33	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£3.94
PabloEmms	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£3.96
	Your hole cards	J A
xxxx	All-in		£3.17	£3.23	£0.00
ELLIEX	Fold
thearabs77	Fold
MP33	All-in		£3.94	£7.17	£0.00
PabloEmms	Fold
MP33	Unmatched bet		£0.79	£6.38	£0.79
MP33	Show	J A
xxxx	Show	5 4
Flop
		4 2 5
Turn
		Q
River
		6
xxxx	Win	Two Pairs, 5s and 4s	£5.90		£5.90

Dudeskin8 · November 2011

Hate those when you make the right call and they hit, did he stay for a while or do a runner ?

The_Don90 · November 2011

4th Nov

Evening

Back to normal

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
BLACK_MASS	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£4.03
sedgley58	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£5.73
	Your hole cards	8 8
dano12341	Raise		£0.16	£0.22	£1.93
The_Don90	Call		£0.16	£0.38	£3.92
vanilia	Fold
drumbeat99	Call		£0.16	£0.54	£4.23
BLACK_MASS	Fold
sedgley58	Fold
Flop
		3 8 2
dano12341	Bet		£0.20	£0.74	£1.73
The_Don90	Raise		£0.91	£1.65	£3.01
drumbeat99	Fold
dano12341	All-in		£1.73	£3.38	£0.00
The_Don90	Call		£1.02	£4.40	£1.99
dano12341	Show	J J
The_Don90	Show	8 8
Turn
		7
River
		4
The_Don90	Win	Three 8s	£4.07		£6.06

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
The_Don90	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£3.94
lastmile	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£4.53
	Your hole cards	A 8
shuffler	Raise		£0.08	£0.14	£1.74
vanilia	Fold
jcrazar1	Raise		£0.12	£0.26	£5.79
The_Don90	Call		£0.10	£0.36	£3.84
lastmile	Fold
shuffler	Call		£0.04	£0.40	£1.70
Flop
		Q 2 K
The_Don90	Check
shuffler	Bet		£0.20	£0.60	£1.50
jcrazar1	Fold
The_Don90	Raise		£0.80	£1.40	£3.04
shuffler	Call		£0.60	£2.00	£0.90
Turn
		K
The_Don90	Bet		£2.00	£4.00	£1.04
shuffler	All-in		£0.90	£4.90	£0.00
The_Don90	Unmatched bet		£1.10	£3.80	£2.14
The_Don90	Show	A 8
shuffler	Show	9 7
River
		6
The_Don90	Win	Pair of Kings	£3.51		£5.65

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
JPKINGPKER	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£1.09
jemma1986	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£11.16
	Your hole cards	4 4
BIGT41	Fold
hogg08	Raise		£0.08	£0.14	£0.58
The_Don90	Call		£0.08	£0.22	£3.92
LuckyFcuk	Call		£0.08	£0.30	£3.19
JPKINGPKER	Call		£0.06	£0.36	£1.03
jemma1986	Call		£0.04	£0.40	£11.12
Flop
		J 4 K
JPKINGPKER	Check
jemma1986	Check
hogg08	Bet		£0.20	£0.60	£0.38
The_Don90	Raise		£0.80	£1.40	£3.12
LuckyFcuk	Fold
JPKINGPKER	Call		£0.80	£2.20	£0.23
jemma1986	Fold
hogg08	Fold
Turn
		K
JPKINGPKER	Check
The_Don90	Bet		£0.23	£2.43	£2.89
JPKINGPKER	All-in		£0.23	£2.66	£0.00
JPKINGPKER	Show	10 9
The_Don90	Show	4 4
River
		A
The_Don90	Win	Full House, 4s and Kings	£2.46		£5.35

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
newyorkgaz	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£7.35
The_Don90	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£3.89
royalfl463	Big blind		£0.04	£0.10	£3.96
lastmile	Sit out
	Your hole cards	K A
royalfl463	Raise		£0.16	£0.26	£3.80
newyorkgaz	Call		£0.18	£0.44	£7.17
The_Don90	Raise		£0.96	£1.40	£2.93
royalfl463	Call		£0.80	£2.20	£3.00
newyorkgaz	Call		£0.80	£3.00	£6.37
Flop
		9 4 4
newyorkgaz	Check
The_Don90	All-in		£2.93	£5.93	£0.00
royalfl463	Call		£2.93	£8.86	£0.07
newyorkgaz	Call		£2.93	£11.79	£3.44
Turn
		7
newyorkgaz	Check
royalfl463	All-in		£0.07	£11.86	£0.00
newyorkgaz	Call		£0.07	£11.93	£3.37
newyorkgaz	Show	9 10
The_Don90	Show	K A
royalfl463	Show	9 10
River
		7
newyorkgaz	Win	Two Pairs, 9s and 7s	£5.52		£8.89
royalfl463	Win	Two Pairs, 9s and 7s	£5.51		£5.51

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
jemma1986	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£11.90
BIGT41	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£2.02
	Your hole cards	10 J
The_Ram	Fold
The_Don90	Raise		£0.20	£0.26	£5.49
Tilly2	Call		£0.20	£0.46	£3.74
Delfaff	Fold
jemma1986	Fold
BIGT41	Fold
Flop
		7 10 2
The_Don90	Bet		£0.35	£0.81	£5.14
Tilly2	Call		£0.35	£1.16	£3.39
Turn
		6
The_Don90	Check
Tilly2	Bet		£1.16	£2.32	£2.23
The_Don90	Call		£1.16	£3.48	£3.98
River
		4
The_Don90	Check
Tilly2	Bet		£0.96	£4.44	£1.27
The_Don90	Call		£0.96	£5.40	£3.02
Tilly2	Show	K K
The_Don90	Muck	10 J
Tilly2	Win	Pair of Kings	£4.99		£6.26

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
The_Don90	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£4.27
Fanakapan5	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£4.67
	Your hole cards	7 7
jhardypo05	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£1.44
ayesa86	Raise		£0.20	£0.30	£0.94
ashy55	Fold
heyupp	Fold
The_Don90	Call		£0.18	£0.48	£4.09
Fanakapan5	Raise		£0.32	£0.80	£4.35
jhardypo05	Raise		£0.48	£1.28	£0.96
ayesa86	Call		£0.32	£1.60	£0.62
The_Don90	Call		£0.32	£1.92	£3.77
Fanakapan5	Call		£0.16	£2.08	£4.19
Flop
		J 6 7
The_Don90	Check
Fanakapan5	Check
jhardypo05	Check
ayesa86	Check
Turn
		9
The_Don90	Bet		£1.56	£3.64	£2.21
Fanakapan5	Fold
jhardypo05	All-in		£0.96	£4.60	£0.00
ayesa86	Fold
The_Don90	Unmatched bet		£0.60	£4.00	£2.81
The_Don90	Show	7 7
jhardypo05	Show	5 Q
River
		8
jhardypo05	Win	Straight to the 9	£3.70		£3.70

Closing Balance (inc arrival of C4P): £153.94

MP33 · November 2011

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:

Hate those when you make the right call and they hit, did he stay for a while or do a runner ?
Posted by Dudeskin8

Lost a few buy ins - gave some abuse out about us all being rubbish and went off - Think he was drunk

Nice session Don - Not sure about the call on the turn with the 10 J _ Think you could have got away from that much cheaper

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