taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary

The_Don90

4th Nov

Late night/early morning

Didnt run well or play well. Let myself tilt.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
The_Don90	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£3.94
leo1910	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£10.79
church04	Sit out
	Your hole cards	A A
Acerdeal	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£6.99
damo188	Raise		£0.08	£0.18	£1.56
delano1975	Fold
The_Don90	Raise		£0.28	£0.46	£3.66
leo1910	All-in		£10.79	£11.25	£0.00
Acerdeal	Fold
damo188	Fold
The_Don90	All-in		£3.66	£14.91	£0.00
leo1910	Unmatched bet		£6.87	£8.04	£6.87
The_Don90	Show	A A
leo1910	Show	Q Q
Flop
		J A Q
Turn
		10
River
		7
The_Don90	Win	Three Aces	£7.43		£7.43

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
Larralacha	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£2.57
Acerdeal	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£0.86
	Your hole cards	Q A
ginags30	Raise		£0.08	£0.14	£10.75
yorkie63	Call		£0.08	£0.22	£4.19
The_Don90	Raise		£0.24	£0.46	£3.70
Larralacha	Call		£0.22	£0.68	£2.35
Acerdeal	Fold
ginags30	Call		£0.16	£0.84	£10.59
yorkie63	Call		£0.16	£1.00	£4.03
Flop
		A 9 6
Larralacha	Check
ginags30	Check
yorkie63	All-in		£4.03	£5.03	£0.00
The_Don90	All-in		£3.70	£8.73	£0.00
Larralacha	Fold
ginags30	Fold
yorkie63	Unmatched bet		£0.33	£8.40	£0.33
yorkie63	Show	A K
The_Don90	Show	Q A
Turn
		5
River
		3
yorkie63	Win	Pair of Aces	£7.77		£8.10

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
Padzz77	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£2.10
The_Don90	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£4.26
	Your hole cards	3 4
Expat	Fold
JGIBBRFC	Fold
LFCSPICER	Raise		£0.20	£0.26	£4.37
church04	Fold
Padzz77	Fold
The_Don90	Call		£0.16	£0.42	£4.10
Flop
		A J 4
The_Don90	Check
LFCSPICER	Check
Turn
		3
The_Don90	Bet		£0.32	£0.74	£3.78
LFCSPICER	Call		£0.32	£1.06	£4.05
River
		5
The_Don90	Check
LFCSPICER	Bet		£1.52	£2.58	£2.53
The_Don90	Call		£1.52	£4.10	£2.26
LFCSPICER	Show	J A
The_Don90	Muck	3 4
LFCSPICER	Win	Two Pairs, Aces and Jacks	£3.79		£6.32

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
ginags30	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£7.68
yorkie63	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£4.79
	Your hole cards	A K
The_Don90	Raise		£0.28	£0.34	£3.70
Acerdeal	Fold
JGIBBRFC	Fold
ginags30	Raise		£1.22	£1.56	£6.46
yorkie63	Fold
The_Don90	All-in		£3.70	£5.26	£0.00
ginags30	Call		£2.74	£8.00	£3.72
ginags30	Show	6 4
The_Don90	Show	A K
Flop
		K J 6
Turn
		3
River
		4
ginags30	Win	Two Pairs, 6s and 4s	£7.40		£11.12

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
yorkie63	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£5.49
The_Don90	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£3.96
	Your hole cards	J J
leo1910	All-in		£4.00	£4.06	£0.00
Acerdeal	Fold
JGIBBRFC	Fold
ginags30	Call		£4.00	£8.06	£9.10
yorkie63	Fold
The_Don90	All-in		£3.96	£12.02	£0.00
The_Don90	Show	J J
leo1910	Show	A A
ginags30	Show	5 Q
Flop
		9 Q K
Turn
		3
River
		6
leo1910	Win	Pair of Aces	£11.11		£11.11

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
delano1975	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£1.34
IJDawson	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£0.94
	Your hole cards	Q K
The_Don90	Raise		£0.20	£0.26	£3.66
intrigue07	Raise		£0.52	£0.78	£3.40
willshir06	Fold
WYLIEBOB	Fold
delano1975	Fold
IJDawson	Fold
The_Don90	Call		£0.32	£1.10	£3.34
Flop
		10 J Q
The_Don90	Check
intrigue07	All-in		£3.40	£4.50	£0.00
The_Don90	All-in		£3.34	£7.84	£0.00
intrigue07	Unmatched bet		£0.06	£7.78	£0.06
The_Don90	Show	Q K
intrigue07	Show	K K
Turn
		7
River
		7
intrigue07	Win	Two Pairs, Kings and 7s	£7.19		£7.25

Closing Balance:

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
delano1975	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£1.34
IJDawson	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£0.94
	Your hole cards	Q K
The_Don90	Raise		£0.20	£0.26	£3.66
intrigue07	Raise		£0.52	£0.78	£3.40
willshir06	Fold
WYLIEBOB	Fold
delano1975	Fold
IJDawson	Fold
The_Don90	Call		£0.32	£1.10	£3.34
Flop
		10 J Q
The_Don90	Check
intrigue07	All-in		£3.40	£4.50	£0.00
The_Don90	All-in		£3.34	£7.84	£0.00
intrigue07	Unmatched bet		£0.06	£7.78	£0.06
The_Don90	Show	Q K
intrigue07	Show	K K
Turn
		7
River
		7
intrigue07	Win	Two Pairs, Kings and 7s	£7.19		£7.25

Closing Balance: £140.81

Well thats me lost 4 buy ins today brilliant. like tht break helped. im not under any illussions i didnt play well in this session, but constantly getting coolered doesnt help.

Dudeskin8

Well from the top -

88 - Fine

A8s - Again look fine.

44 - Fine, love how you bet 23p on turn lol

AK - Aggro post flop but it's pretty tough to hit that flop so you win a lot I'd imagine and get value from AQ/AJ that probz calls too.

J10o - I would open for 4x here as your hand isn't amazing and especially not great when you hit just top pair, flop bet fine, after being called I probably c/f to that strong pot bet as I don't see what he does it with that you beat.

77 - I fold to first raise as he only has 96p left with no guarentee £4 stack gets involved. After Fana 3bets then limp guy 4bets ! I'm snap foling as Fana could be shoving next.

AA - Fine.

AQ - Cooler ul.

34 - Snap fold preflop, as played I probz fold to overbet on river that looks like wanting paying.

AK - Sick, nout more you can do once the moneys in.

JJ - Tight but I fold preflop, after first all in guy who calls should have something pretty good or at least racing with you and coupled with what 1st all in has can't think you're a big fave, on a side note that ginags guy was having a fun time lol.

KQ - Raise UTG fine I personaly fold to 3bet, yes they can have anything as ginags shown but in general no one  raises at this level so when they RE RAISE they ususally have something better than KQ. Flop you gotta call.

These are all my opinions though so maybe I'm too tight and I should be flatting 5x out OOP w/34

Good luck.

MP33

Just took me ages to find this

Whats happened?

I miss it

EDIT _ just noticed a new Don on the NL4 - "The Don44"

The_Don90

ive not been playing cash of late hu and mtts mate

The_Don90

15th Nov

Early Early doors

Last night i woke up randomly at 5am i decided that i wanted more sleep but to help tire me out id play an hours cash. I loaded the lobby and looked at the first 3 avalible tables. 2x NL4 and the other being NL10 none seemed like great value tbh, and i though ill see if theres one more NL10 that looks better. There was and i decided to watch for 5 mins knowing i was taking a pretty big risk. It looked like NL4 on a bad day so i sat down. Now for what its worth ive played alot of mtts and hu recently rather than cash my br started at £129.50 (give or take a few pennies). However ive been working on things off the table related to my tilt as well in private this time. Aswell as one key aspect of my game, hand reading and thought process with relation to that.

So ill post up some hands.

Hand 1. I just couldnt put this guy on a range that beat me unless he was going nuts with a flush. By way he'd played before i ruled that out. Therefore was able to make a good call.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
whacker	Small blind		£0.05	£0.05	£8.59
tifyboy	Big blind		£0.10	£0.15	£22.57
	Your hole cards	K K
sean7	Fold
BIGPETE366	Call		£0.10	£0.25	£3.98
The_Don90	Raise		£0.40	£0.65	£10.63
whacker	Fold
tifyboy	Call		£0.30	£0.95	£22.27
BIGPETE366	Call		£0.30	£1.25	£3.68
Flop
		5 7 A
tifyboy	Check
BIGPETE366	Check
The_Don90	Check
Turn
		2
tifyboy	Check
BIGPETE366	Check
The_Don90	Bet		£0.94	£2.19	£9.69
tifyboy	Fold
BIGPETE366	Call		£0.94	£3.13	£2.74
River
		10
BIGPETE366	All-in		£2.74	£5.87	£0.00
The_Don90	Call		£2.74	£8.61	£6.95
BIGPETE366	Show	4 4
The_Don90	Show	K K
The_Don90	Win	Pair of Kings	£7.96		£14.91

Hand 2 - biggest pot i was involved in. I know my opponent to be extremely LAG in posision, however i didnt quite have the ammunition to fire a 4bet here thinking id only get called by better. This obviously gives me a problem post flop, OOP and not sure where i am. However once he checked back flop i decided i was ahead. Turn was a danger card but one i was comfortable with, and by the river i just couldnt see many 8's or 6's in his range so decided i was good, which i was. Although i know i cant raise or bet as i only get called by better, so i felt the c/c allowed me to a) see cards, but also get value from bluffs and a 9 or a 7 type hand.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
slow1	Small blind		£0.05	£0.05	£11.94
The_Don90	Big blind		£0.10	£0.15	£14.66
	Your hole cards	J J
whacker	Call		£0.10	£0.25	£9.25
tifyboy	Fold
sean7	Raise		£0.30	£0.55	£7.23
sedgy123	Raise		£0.90	£1.45	£9.84
slow1	Fold
The_Don90	Call		£0.80	£2.25	£13.86
whacker	Fold
sean7	Fold
Flop
		6 6 5
The_Don90	Check
sedgy123	Check
Turn
		7
The_Don90	Bet		£1.69	£3.94	£12.17
sedgy123	Call		£1.69	£5.63	£8.15
River
		9
The_Don90	Check
sedgy123	Bet		£4.22	£9.85	£3.93
The_Don90	Call		£4.22	£14.07	£7.95
sedgy123	Show	10 J
The_Don90	Show	J J
The_Don90	Win	Two Pairs, Jacks and 6s	£13.01		£20.96

Hand 3 - again this time i opted for the 3b however once my cbet as called i shut down. Really not happy with my check on the river but again was trying to allow my opponent to bluff as seen in hand 2.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
slow1	Small blind		£0.05	£0.05	£10.48
The_Don90	Big blind		£0.10	£0.15	£25.07
	Your hole cards	A Q
whacker	Fold
tifyboy	Fold
sean7	Fold
sedgy123	Raise		£0.40	£0.55	£9.11
slow1	Fold
The_Don90	Raise		£1.00	£1.55	£24.07
sedgy123	Call		£0.70	£2.25	£8.41
Flop
		7 2 4
The_Don90	Bet		£1.69	£3.94	£22.38
sedgy123	Call		£1.69	£5.63	£6.72
Turn
		8
The_Don90	Check
sedgy123	Check
River
		K
The_Don90	Check
sedgy123	Check
The_Don90	Show	A Q
sedgy123	Muck	4 9
The_Don90	Win	Flush to the King	£5.20		£27.58

Hand 4 - How to overplay the best hand

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
tifyboy	Small blind		£0.05	£0.05	£27.87
sean7	Big blind		£0.10	£0.15	£4.41
	Your hole cards	A Q
tillytrot	Fold
slow1	Call		£0.10	£0.25	£4.22
The_Don90	Raise		£0.40	£0.65	£22.41
whacker	Fold
tifyboy	Fold
sean7	Call		£0.30	£0.95	£4.11
slow1	Call		£0.30	£1.25	£3.92
Flop
		K 4 9
sean7	Check
slow1	Bet		£0.63	£1.88	£3.29
The_Don90	Raise		£1.26	£3.14	£21.15
sean7	Fold
slow1	Call		£0.63	£3.77	£2.66
Turn
		8
slow1	Check
The_Don90	Bet		£1.89	£5.66	£19.26
slow1	Call		£1.89	£7.55	£0.77
River
		4
slow1	Check
The_Don90	Check
slow1	Show	10 Q
The_Don90	Show	A Q
The_Don90	Win	Pair of 4s	£6.98		£26.24

hand 5 - my only losing hand. Now when it came down to this i was actually shutting down after my cbet i only really beat A8 in honesty. However once i seen the stack size i felt i couldnt fold for that into that pot. However flatting the turrn also felt pretty bad so i just got it in and made a note.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
sean7	Small blind		£0.05	£0.05	£2.26
tillytrot	Big blind		£0.10	£0.15	£9.90
	Your hole cards	A 10
slow1	Call		£0.10	£0.25	£8.86
The_Don90	Raise		£0.40	£0.65	£27.80
whacker	Call		£0.40	£1.05	£5.92
tifyboy	Fold
sean7	Call		£0.35	£1.40	£1.91
tillytrot	Fold
slow1	Call		£0.30	£1.70	£8.56
Flop
		A 9 6
sean7	Check
slow1	Check
The_Don90	Bet		£1.28	£2.98	£26.52
whacker	Call		£1.28	£4.26	£4.64
sean7	Fold
slow1	Fold
Turn
		6
The_Don90	Check
whacker	Bet		£2.13	£6.39	£2.51
The_Don90	All-in		£26.52	£32.91	£0.00
whacker	All-in		£2.51	£35.42	£0.00
The_Don90	Unmatched bet		£21.88	£13.54	£21.88
The_Don90	Show	A 10
whacker	Show	K A
River
		5
whacker	Win	Two Pairs, Aces and 6s	£12.52		£12.52

Closing Balance: £145.20

Feeling really good about playing atm although still not getting enough hours in. Something which i need to address. However as im learning more im defo enjoying poker more.

Dudeskin8

1. Looks fine, only really flush beats you.

2. Again ok probz only 88 beats you.

3. Looks fine, defo bet river with 2nd nuts.

4. I personlly just fold to the donkbet, a player with that stacksize is never folding any pair, also you only minraise him so are essentially just folding out bluffs but also giving super duper odds if he has proper draw but on that board that's tough, I'd think the hand he has is the only only you get value from here. After minraise is called why are you betting turn, 8 is a blank and if he calls you're most likely dead also if you're gonna bet just stick him in. Oh and Sean has just checked, yet another reason minraise is risky as he could have any sort of pair too, it is 3-way.

5. I bet call turn, if he can just flat a raise pre w/AK with that stack he will do same with other small Ax's imo.

The_Don90

A little update. Im really finding it difficult to find motovation to play. Over the last while ive tried Mtts but the variance still i dislike. HU S&Gs but id play so many then get bored. and dyms aswell as a shot at NL10 cash. I just cant find the spirit to play.

So ive decided to play a mixture of things. Im hoping this will help. ATM im played 2x dyms (£5.50) and when i get bored of that ill switch to a couple of HU games or cash. Im im really struggling ill pick a tourny and have a crack.


At the moment my br stands at: £134.60 But ive registered for 2 dyms and thats what i have back so looking ok. ill keep updated with how im all going.

While typing this i was crippled in first dym, standardinho set over set.

Anyways ill update as i can again as tbh i feel ive neglected this thread a little and it really did help me play.

harding10

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:

A little update. Im really finding it difficult to find motovation to play. Over the last while ive tried Mtts but the variance still i dislike. HU S&Gs but id play so many then get bored. and dyms aswell as a shot at NL10 cash. I just cant find the spirit to play. So ive decided to play a mixture of things. Im hoping this will help. ATM im played 2x dyms (£5.50) and when i get bored of that ill switch to a couple of HU games or cash. Im im really struggling ill pick a tourny and have a crack. At the moment my br stands at: £134.60 But ive registered for 2 dyms and thats what i have back so looking ok. ill keep updated with how im all going. While typing this i was crippled in first dym, standardinho set over set. Anyways ill update as i can again as tbh i feel ive neglected this thread a little and it really did help me play.
Posted by The_Don90

Grinding cash tables trying to beat nl4/8 over the last couple of months has had much the same effect on me. Not that I don't think I can do it, but the enjoyment just isn't there.

I've coped quite well with the 5 BI downswings at nl4, but at nl8 a 5 BI downswing has become 'real money' in my head and I'm struggling a bit with that, so I'm withdrawing £100 and dropping back down for a while at least. If I'm playing well enough I'll rebuild from there and maybe have another shot in the new year.

I'm playing for fun, not to try and make a steady income so at the moment I feel I'll probably continue playing some micro cash, but to the point of paying for my mtt entries on nights I don't have time for a mtt rather than trying to move up through the levels. I think there's prossibly more soft money to do this at nl4 than there is playing DYM's, and the option of sitting in or standing out at will suits my lifestyle better.

For now, as long as I win enough that my fun continues to be effectively free I think that will do for me.

The_Don90

PLayed some Dyms (total of 3) then some NL8 ill post some hands.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
rsvrcool01	Small blind		10.00	10.00	1970.00
kyles93	Big blind		20.00	30.00	1960.00
	Your hole cards	6 6
tiga123	Fold
wfilson250	Fold
Bobski21	Raise		40.00	70.00	1940.00
The_Don90	Call		40.00	110.00	1990.00
rsvrcool01	Fold
kyles93	Raise		60.00	170.00	1900.00
Bobski21	Call		40.00	210.00	1900.00
The_Don90	Call		40.00	250.00	1950.00
Flop
		5 6 9
kyles93	Bet		60.00	310.00	1840.00
Bobski21	Call		60.00	370.00	1840.00
The_Don90	Raise		382.50	752.50	1567.50
kyles93	All-in		1840.00	2592.50	0.00
Bobski21	Fold
The_Don90	All-in		1567.50	4160.00	0.00
The_Don90	Unmatched bet		50.00	4110.00	50.00
kyles93	Show	9 9
The_Don90	Show	6 6
Turn
		10
River
		Q
kyles93	Win	Three 9s	4110.00		4110.00

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
stuey1515	Small blind		75.00	75.00	4770.00
WOBLY57	Big blind		150.00	225.00	1410.00
	Your hole cards	6 6
hhhhffff13	Fold
The_Don90	All-in		1410.00	1635.00	0.00
wrongjohn1	All-in		785.00	2420.00	0.00
stuey1515	Fold
WOBLY57	Fold
The_Don90	Unmatched bet		625.00	1795.00	625.00
The_Don90	Show	6 6
wrongjohn1	Show	Q J
Flop
		A 2 2
Turn
		2
River
		K
The_Don90	Win	Full House, 2s and 6s	1795.00		2420.00

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
stuey1515	Small blind		100.00	100.00	6020.00
WOBLY57	Big blind		200.00	300.00	1820.00
	Your hole cards	A A
hhhhffff13	Fold
The_Don90	All-in		2120.00	2420.00	0.00
stuey1515	Call		2020.00	4440.00	4000.00
WOBLY57	Fold
stuey1515	Show	K 9
The_Don90	Show	A A
Flop
		8 J 8
Turn
		Q
River
		7
The_Don90	Win	Two Pairs, Aces and 8s	4440.00		4440.00

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
bird06	Small blind		200.00	200.00	2225.00
dodgydaz	Big blind		400.00	600.00	2285.00
	Your hole cards	K 10
cowpatpe17	Fold
wrongjohn1	Fold
The_Don90	All-in		2270.00	2870.00	0.00
bird06	Call		2070.00	4940.00	155.00
dodgydaz	Fold
bird06	Show	10 10
The_Don90	Show	K 10
Flop
		6 A 9
Turn
		Q
River
		4
bird06	Win	Pair of 10s	4940.00		5095.00

1 cash from 3 dyms, not good

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
2Icecool	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£2.51
The_Don90	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£10.94
	Your hole cards	A Q
croixb	Call		£0.08	£0.20	£2.28
delfunkdj	Fold
mudrinho18	Call		£0.08	£0.28	£2.19
2Icecool	Call		£0.04	£0.32	£2.47
The_Don90	Raise		£0.56	£0.88	£10.38
croixb	Call		£0.56	£1.44	£1.72
mudrinho18	Call		£0.56	£2.00	£1.63
2Icecool	Fold
Flop
		4 7 5
The_Don90	All-in		£10.38	£12.38	£0.00
croixb	All-in		£1.72	£14.10	£0.00
mudrinho18	Fold
The_Don90	Unmatched bet		£8.66	£5.44	£8.66
The_Don90	Show	A Q
croixb	Show	K K
Turn
		3
River
		8
The_Don90	Win	Flush to the Ace	£5.03		£13.69

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
delfunkdj	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£5.46
mudrinho18	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£1.65
	Your hole cards	A A
2Icecool	Call		£0.08	£0.20	£2.39
The_Don90	Raise		£0.48	£0.68	£13.17
delfunkdj	Fold
mudrinho18	Call		£0.40	£1.08	£1.25
2Icecool	Call		£0.40	£1.48	£1.99
Flop
		Q 9 A
mudrinho18	Check
2Icecool	Bet		£0.08	£1.56	£1.91
The_Don90	All-in		£13.17	£14.73	£0.00
mudrinho18	All-in		£1.25	£15.98	£0.00
2Icecool	Fold
The_Don90	Unmatched bet		£11.92	£4.06	£11.92
mudrinho18	Show	6 Q
The_Don90	Show	A A
Turn
		2
River
		2
The_Don90	Win	Full House, Aces and 2s	£3.75		£15.67

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
The_Don90	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£8.76
DinglyBob	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£5.50
	Your hole cards	J J
metaflop	Fold
raytei01	Call		£0.08	£0.20	£2.99
emma8	Raise		£0.16	£0.36	£3.97
The_Don90	Raise		£0.44	£0.80	£8.32
DinglyBob	Fold
raytei01	Fold
emma8	All-in		£3.97	£4.77	£0.00
The_Don90	Call		£3.65	£8.42	£4.67
The_Don90	Show	J J
emma8	Show	K K
Flop
		5 3 3
Turn
		2
River
		Q
emma8	Win	Two Pairs, Kings and 3s	£7.78		£7.78

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
metaflop	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£8.53
raytei01	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£4.96
	Your hole cards	9 J
The_Don90	Raise		£0.32	£0.44	£7.82
PuN15h3r	Call		£0.32	£0.76	£6.30
DinglyBob	Fold
metaflop	Fold
raytei01	Fold
Flop
		4 3 6
The_Don90	Bet		£0.57	£1.33	£7.25
PuN15h3r	Call		£0.57	£1.90	£5.73
Turn
		2
The_Don90	Bet		£0.95	£2.85	£6.30
PuN15h3r	Call		£0.95	£3.80	£4.78
River
		J
The_Don90	Bet		£1.90	£5.70	£4.40
PuN15h3r	All-in		£4.78	£10.48	£0.00
The_Don90	Call		£2.88	£13.36	£1.52
The_Don90	Show	9 J
PuN15h3r	Show	A 5
PuN15h3r	Win	Straight to the 6	£12.35		£12.35

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
PuN15h3r	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£7.46
DinglyBob	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£12.59
	Your hole cards	A A
metaflop	Fold
raytei01	Call		£0.08	£0.20	£2.77
The_Don90	Raise		£0.40	£0.60	£7.72
PuN15h3r	Fold
DinglyBob	Fold
raytei01	Call		£0.32	£0.92	£2.45
Flop
		4 10 3
raytei01	Check
The_Don90	Bet		£0.92	£1.84	£6.80
raytei01	All-in		£2.45	£4.29	£0.00
The_Don90	Call		£1.53	£5.82	£5.27
raytei01	Show	10 J
The_Don90	Show	A A
Turn
		K
River
		10
raytei01	Win	Three 10s	£5.38		£5.38

Closing Br: £129.29

rancid

Can’t see much wrong tbh

 You seem eager in cash to get stacks in because maybe your thinking all players stack light.  If you have them noted as stack light then no problem.

In the JJ hand you 3 bet a min raise (3 bet bigger), which is fine but when they come back at you they always have it.  Don’t know why your playing NL8, take the easy money at NL4, only 10-15 bi’s away from NL8 – what’s the hurry Don ?

Pokers a never ending game @Carlotheoranageman

The_Don90

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:

Can’t see much wrong tbh   You seem eager in cash to get stacks in because maybe your thinking all players stack light.   If you have them noted as stack light then no problem. In the JJ hand you 3 bet a min raise (3 bet bigger), which is fine but when they come back at you they always have it.   Don’t know why your playing NL8, take the easy money at NL4, only 10-15 bi’s away from NL8 – what’s the hurry Don ? Pokers a never ending game @Carlotheoranageman
Posted by rancid

3 betting there has to be with the intention of getting it in with their stack size. They will hve AK/AQ/KQ/TT/99 often enough.

Dudeskin8

Yh JJ looks ok they are only 50bb deep.

J9s I probz check turn hope for cheap river, not sure about b/c he surely has something there.

rancid

Do we never 3 bet fold ) Even with JJ with oppo on 50 BB given action - I guess not -

In game I probably do the same, but I have noticed at NL8/NL10, a min raise then a 4 bet shove = KK/AA a lot of the time.

The_Don90

hmmmm more NL8 only played an hour

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
notme389	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£8.53
fmob	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£2.85
	Your hole cards	A A
The_Don90	Raise		£0.40	£0.52	£9.50
squashpro1	Fold
topchip	Fold
spursutd	Fold
notme389	Call		£0.36	£0.88	£8.17
fmob	Fold
Flop
		6 4 8
notme389	Check
The_Don90	Bet		£0.66	£1.54	£8.84
notme389	Call		£0.66	£2.20	£7.51
Turn
		2
notme389	Check
The_Don90	Bet		£1.65	£3.85	£7.19
notme389	Call		£1.65	£5.50	£5.86
River
		9
notme389	Check
The_Don90	Check
notme389	Show	K 6
The_Don90	Show	A A
The_Don90	Win	Pair of Aces	£5.08		£12.27

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
hanoFTD	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£5.07
The_Don90	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£8.53
	Your hole cards	K K
topchip	Fold
metaflop	Fold
PARXL	Fold
Legend72	Fold
hanoFTD	Call		£0.04	£0.16	£5.03
The_Don90	Raise		£0.24	£0.40	£8.29
hanoFTD	Call		£0.24	£0.64	£4.79
Flop
		4 7 3
hanoFTD	Check
The_Don90	Bet		£0.48	£1.12	£7.81
hanoFTD	Call		£0.48	£1.60	£4.31
Turn
		9
hanoFTD	Check
The_Don90	Bet		£1.20	£2.80	£6.61
hanoFTD	Call		£1.20	£4.00	£3.11
River
		10
hanoFTD	Bet		£3.00	£7.00	£0.11
The_Don90	All-in		£6.61	£13.61	£0.00
hanoFTD	All-in		£0.11	£13.72	£0.00
The_Don90	Unmatched bet		£3.50	£10.22	£3.50
hanoFTD	Show	A 5
The_Don90	Show	K K
The_Don90	Win	Pair of Kings	£9.45		£12.95

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
bentley12	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£2.76
metaflop	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£8.29
	Your hole cards	10 9
champy566	Fold
Slider73	Raise		£0.24	£0.36	£14.11
Uridium	Fold
The_Don90	Call		£0.24	£0.60	£7.76
bentley12	Call		£0.20	£0.80	£2.56
metaflop	Fold
Flop
		10 2 K
bentley12	Check
Slider73	Bet		£0.40	£1.20	£13.71
The_Don90	Call		£0.40	£1.60	£7.36
bentley12	Call		£0.40	£2.00	£2.16
Turn
		9
bentley12	Check
Slider73	Check
The_Don90	Bet		£1.50	£3.50	£5.86
bentley12	Fold
Slider73	Call		£1.50	£5.00	£12.21
River
		2
Slider73	Bet		£2.50	£7.50	£9.71
The_Don90	Fold
Slider73	Muck
Slider73	Win		£4.62		£14.33
Slider73	Return		£2.50	£0.38	£16.83

this one below is in clinic for feedback.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
squashpro1	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£8.20
topchip	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£7.04
	Your hole cards	10 K
spursutd	Call		£0.08	£0.20	£7.28
notme389	Raise		£0.16	£0.36	£5.54
fmob	Call		£0.16	£0.52	£2.45
The_Don90	Call		£0.16	£0.68	£12.57
squashpro1	Fold
topchip	Fold
spursutd	Call		£0.08	£0.76	£7.20
Flop
		9 6 7
spursutd	Check
notme389	Bet		£0.76	£1.52	£4.78
fmob	Call		£0.76	£2.28	£1.69
The_Don90	Raise		£3.04	£5.32	£9.53
spursutd	Fold
notme389	Call		£2.28	£7.60	£2.50
fmob	All-in		£1.69	£9.29	£0.00
Turn
		7
notme389	Bet		£0.56	£9.85	£1.94
The_Don90	All-in		£9.53	£19.38	£0.00
notme389	All-in		£1.94	£21.32	£0.00
The_Don90	Unmatched bet		£7.03	£14.29	£7.03
notme389	Show	10 10
fmob	Show	6 A
The_Don90	Show	10 K
River
		Q
notme389	Win	Two Pairs, 10s and 7s	£13.21		£13.21

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
topchip	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£7.28
spursutd	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£7.19
	Your hole cards	K J
notme389	Call		£0.08	£0.20	£11.81
SicoSi	Fold
The_Don90	Raise		£0.32	£0.52	£7.68
C4LC10	Fold
topchip	Call		£0.28	£0.80	£7.00
spursutd	Fold
notme389	Call		£0.24	£1.04	£11.57
Flop
		J 3 2
topchip	Check
notme389	Check
The_Don90	Bet		£0.78	£1.82	£6.90
topchip	Fold
notme389	Raise		£3.38	£5.20	£8.19
The_Don90	All-in		£6.90	£12.10	£0.00
notme389	Call		£4.30	£16.40	£3.89
notme389	Show	8 9
The_Don90	Show	K J
Turn
		4
River
		J
notme389	Win	Flush to the Jack	£15.17		£19.06

closing br: 117.91

The_Don90

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:

Do we never 3 bet fold ) Even with JJ with oppo on 50 BB given action - I guess not - In game I probably do the same, but I have noticed at NL8/NL10, a min raise then a 4 bet shove = KK/AA a lot of the time.
Posted by rancid

if their 100BB deep i fold.

ZedsDeadBa

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:

A little update. Im really finding it difficult to find motovation to play. Over the last while ive tried Mtts but the variance still i dislike. HU S&Gs but id play so many then get bored. and dyms aswell as a shot at NL10 cash. I just cant find the spirit to play. So ive decided to play a mixture of things. Im hoping this will help. ATM im played 2x dyms (£5.50) and when i get bored of that ill switch to a couple of HU games or cash. Im im really struggling ill pick a tourny and have a crack. At the moment my br stands at: £134.60 But ive registered for 2 dyms and thats what i have back so looking ok. ill keep updated with how im all going. While typing this i was crippled in first dym, standardinho set over set. Anyways ill update as i can again as tbh i feel ive neglected this thread a little and it really did help me play.
Posted by The_Don90

Hi Don,

Would a little Omaha not make a nice change for a while?

The_Don90

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary : Hi Don, Would a little Omaha not make a nice change for a while?
Posted by ZedsDeadBa

yeah maybe if i was any good at it lol. Tbh im on the verge of just giving up poker. I cant motovate myself and wen ur consistantly losing its even harder.

rancid

Stop playing NL8, play NL4

Tighten up, don't play K10s, 109s with your roll at NL8.

Maximum your return by maximising your percentages pre/post flop

Ax suited, high end str draws etc... sets - big pairs

Marginal hands are ok when you have the roll and losing a bi means nothing, playing NL8 with your roll like this is just 

suicide.

Your skill is NOT > than the VARIANCE that can kill your BR

You can play perfect and still lose 

Load up 4-6 tables of NL4 and play tight- simples

It may be boring, but come on Don - it's ez for you

Enter an MTT to keep you occupied when your folding ) I do --

The_Don90

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:

Stop playing NL8, play NL4 Tighten up, don't play K10s, 109s with your roll at NL8. Maximum your return by maximising your percentages pre/post flop Ax suited, high end str draws etc... sets - big pairs Marginal hands are ok when you have the roll and losing a bi means nothing, playing NL8 with your roll like this is just  suicide. Your skill is NOT /> than the VARIANCE that can kill your BR You can play perfect and still lose  Load up 4-6 tables of NL4 and play tight- simples It may be boring, but come on Don - it's ez for you
Posted by rancid

KTs on button for a min raise easy call. 9Ts v a big stack i have great implied odds expessially with my reads.

Anyways i no longer have will to play, and if i do ill defo not play cash. Sick of grinding for 2 hours fora profitable session to be 20p and others i just get outdrawn alot of the time. People wholl call off 100BB on a flush draw and get there and btw again based on reads, which where correct.

Im sorry if this sounds defeatest but i rekon those guys in area 51 have a point.

pomfrittes

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary:

Stop playing NL8, play NL4 Tighten up, don't play K10s, 109s with your roll at NL8. Maximum your return by maximising your percentages pre/post flop Ax suited, high end str draws etc... sets - big pairs Marginal hands are ok when you have the roll and losing a bi means nothing, playing NL8 with your roll like this is just  suicide. Your skill is NOT /> than the VARIANCE that can kill your BR You can play perfect and still lose  Load up 4-6 tables of NL4 and play tight- simples It may be boring, but come on Don - it's ez for you Enter an MTT to keep you occupied when your folding ) I do --
Posted by rancid

  wasting ur breath m8, Don dont listen to good advice, or even bad advice for that matter........