Well that was a bit of a grind! I ended up playing quite a few more games than planned which is always a good thing. I was constantly running just below break even all session and then just managed to pop into the black in the last 2 games of the night. I was playing 2 tables for most of tonight and feel like I'm playing completely comfortably and don't think it's having any negative affect on my game. So I played 34 games and only managed to win 18 of them for a massive £1.50 profit, although I'm happy to just string together as many winning sessions as possible. Also 34 games is 102 poker points, and at 1p per point, that's almost as much as I made this session! Bankroll: £223.72 Poker Points: 841 (£6.73) Posted by Lambert180
Lambo had a pretty brutal session last night. I know he's close to packing in the cash, so any words of encouragement wouldn't go a miss He doesn't listen to me, so I've had to come on here and grass him up. Sorry Lambo. Had to do it. Posted by Llamas
In Response to Re: Lambert180 ----- 4NL to 20NL ----- Target = 50BIs for 20NL within 12 months ------ Current Bankroll = £743.25 : Had a brutal session last weekend, took a few days off-excluded myself as would never actually stay off otherwise, took stock, remembered how important poker is in the grand scheme of things, and how i would of jumped at having even a quarter of the roll i have this time last year, having followed this diary i'm your still in much better shape than you were and despite the set backs you know your good enough to make money in poker long term so just review the session, consider it a setback that can motivate you to carry on with your target of beating cash. This diary was what made me want to track my own progress on the community and is always a good read, also appreciate the advice you have given me in the past, this in particular is probably relevant right now.. "Since my diary my BR has went from £15 - £800 and everything in between, plenty of ups and PLENTY of downs. If nothing else, it'll be something good to look back on when you realise at one point you were £100 down and a month later you're £100 up" Posted by benc
Lol unlucky mate I had a brutal last 3 days also so have withdrawn all, a sliek benc i would just keep playing, a few days rest and ur head will be back where you want it to be, goodluck!
I was on 1 of your tables the other night mate and witnessed some of the damage. If I'm brutally honest you lost a couple of stacks way too easy. These were MC tables too so that's 200bb deep.
Just tighten up a lot and your results will change. It really is that simple.
I wish you all the best mate. Get back on the horse tonight when all the drunks are on and get that BR going north again.
Stepping back down in the hardest thing to do, but sometimes you gotta do it Paul. Beleive me it's very easy to lose £200 at nl20 if things run against you. If your having a shot at nl20 then if you lose 4 bins, be it cooler or not then step back down untill your ready to have a go again. Nothing worse than bleeding money.
I myself went through a horrible downswing in december and into early january, some might say this was because I withdraw some of my monies ) During this time I was close to saying "**** it" how can I beat these games and now I can't even win a hand, no matter what I had. During this time I lost about £450.
So with withdrawing and running so bad at nl20, I went back to a £500 br after xmas and play nl10. Does it annoy me, yes - should I deposit the money I withdraw - no because I spent it over xmas - lol
Need to have some patience and displine and you have that to build a roll now. It's not as easy to accelrate through the levels unless you run like god.
It will come, take your time.
You just need to ask yourself an honest question "How did I build my BR" If you have grinded cash and beat the level then great. But because you have binked some MTT money and win at hyper's, doesn't mean you should even be playing nl20 because have you really beaten nl10.
Prove to yourself you can beat nl10 then take a shot at nl20. Play nl10 for a month, beat that then move on. Don't feel you need to rush, build up your cash game.
Worse thing you can do is beleive you better than what your are, and you have it all sussed. There's always more to learn.
Paul Stepping back down in the hardest thing to do, but sometimes you gotta do it Paul. Beleive me it's very easy to lose £200 at nl20 if things run against you. If your having a shot at nl20 then if you lose 4 bins, be it cooler or not then step back down untill your ready to have a go again. Nothing worse than bleeding money. I myself went through a horrible downswing in december and into early january, some might say this was because I withdraw some of my monies ) During this time I was close to saying "**** it" how can I beat these games and now I can't even win a hand, no matter what I had. During this time I lost about £450. So with withdrawing and running so bad at nl20, I went back to a £500 br after xmas and play nl10. Does it annoy me, yes - should I deposit the money I withdraw - no because I spent it over xmas - lol Need to have some patience and displine and you have that to build a roll now. It's not as easy to accelrate through the levels unless you run like god. It will come, take your time. You just need to ask yourself an honest question "How did I build my BR" If you have grinded cash and beat the level then great. But because you have binked some MTT money and win at hyper's, doesn't mean you should even be playing nl20 because have you really beaten nl10. Prove to yourself you can beat nl10 then take a shot at nl20. Play nl10 for a month, beat that then move on. Don't feel you need to rush, build up your cash game. Worse thing you can do is beleive you better than what your are, and you have it all sussed. There's always more to learn. chin up, don't give up - you ain't even started Marc Posted by rancid
Let me start by saying thanks to everyone for the kind words and thanks (a bit lol) to Emma for outing me for doing a 'Dohh' by not posting after a horrible session. I'll be as honest as possible here (as I always try to be but I'll warn you now it may very well be a tl;dr
While Emma said I was thinking about packing in the cash, what's more true is that I've been thinking of packing in all forms of online poker for the most part. This isn't a variance thing,or an issue with online poker par se, as you'll probably know I think that anyone convinced that online poker is rigged is pretty stupid...
Just recent events made we re-evaluate a few things... ultimately there's probably an 80/20 split in terms of the reason I play, 80% being money, 20% being fun. I play for fun but derive very little of this from cash poker tbh, the reason I play cash is to make money (and clearly I'm no good at that lol). Also, I'm only really interested in it in terms of being a stepping stone to winning decent amounts of money.
I know this might sound stupid to some and I could well get shot down for it, but this is my opinion... If someone said to me, you can play cash poker for say 20 hours per month every month and guaranteed you will win £100 a month (no more, no less) every single month, I wouldn't play the game. I know that some people would love to be in the above situation but for me it just doesn't warrant the amount of time I'm putting in. I'm playing cash as a means of making money and tbh I could make £100 a month by putting less than a quarter of that time in per month doing overtime in work.
Now there's a number of obstacles, the main one imo being that I just don't think I'm good enough to make serious money from poker. 20 hours per month is a fair amount of time while having a job and if the money aint there, I'd rather just play on the xbox or something. I don't wanna sound like a moaner, I'm not complaining about my situation at all, I know there are TONS of people who would absolutely love to be able to play the game and just be break even from it.
I have no doubt in my mind that I could carry on and build back to like £750 and more, I just dunno if it's an effective use of my time.
Good point made by Doh the other day on his diary about how great it was years ago to be naive about poker, and how as you learn more and know what a decent winrate for any given game it's just like urgh cba grinding for less than minimum wage.
@ Splashies - Yeah I'm totally agreed with you there, and there was some tilt involved at stages of the session obv Looking back a few of my stack offs on that table were truly awful, although I think one with AA was justified.
@ Rancid - Cheers, very good advice and all very true.
@ Benc - Thanks for the post, always nice to have some of my own advice quoted back at me lol.
@ Dohhh - I know, I know, it does make it feel less painful looking at it that way. So the first mention of my BR... it's now £550 so I lost 10 BIs although it was largely courtesy of 4 stack offs on MC tables so that alone was 8BIs. But yeah it still isn't to be sniffed at I guess, but if it takes me 9 months to win £300 profit, I'm not sure it's the best use of my time in a financial sense, and I've already mentioned that I just don't enjoy cash.
@ BigNoise - Cheers, and yeah I know that it's unimportant in the grand scheme of things which is kinda the basis of me re-thinking things. I've discussed how the small amounts don't mean a lot to me, so even more so it seems bizarre me playing a game that I don't really enjoy, don't make much money from, and stresses me out.
@ Percival - Great post, more please lol.
@ Bugaloo - Nah not harsh at all and yeah you are right that it is something deeper than just the swinginess of poker. I have been playing a long time, and understand variance etc, as I say I think this is more about a long term view of things. I know I can win that money back but can I be @ssed... not sure lol.
@ Shaun - Well done for seeming to be the only one that noticed that while my latest update was £750, that doesn't mean it's what I've got now lol.
So in summary, I have no idea what I'm gonna do. I've wasted your time and my time writing all this and knowing me, I'll probably be back on the tables tonight!! Dunno, think the moral of the story is, when you aint good enough to grind out decent money you just gotta settle for fun, so more MTTs for me and much more live poker me thinks.
Hmmm, tough spot. Personally I still enjoy the game immensely, I'd happily play the 20 hours a months even if I just broke even. For me it's 80% about fun, 20% about money, so I can't really offer any advice.
I love the game Gary, just not cash. I only wanted to learn/play cash as I saw it as the most consistent form of the game in terms of better players beating worse ones.
Tbh, I wouldn't find cash so boring if it wasnt just so heavily reliant on finding out which villians are just nuts peddlers. Obv we don't wanna be playing against brilliant players a lot better than us, and its good for us when people are see-through in their style, but just fels pretty boring when you get 3bet and the number of people you can say 'ok so that's JJ+ or AK (maybe AQ if we're lucky)'. Before anyone says it, I know this is good from a winnimg sense, but from an enjoyment sense imo it sucks.
Your just putting too much pressure on yourself to win money and move up to win lots of money. But w/e money you win at cash it's alwasy relative to your BR.
Essentially you get to a point where you play poker not just for fun because you have an expectation of winning. When that doesn't happen then your like it's not fun.
Do you enjoy poker more when your winning and things are going good ?
You have a job, like me so get realsitic your never going to make big enough money to leave your job. Maybe in 2-3 years time you may have worked your way up enough to do this but for now you need to think about what you want to acheive.
Me, I am happy if I win enough each month to treat the kids to something. Plus I still play cash to pay for my MTT entries as you know one day I am going to win massive )
take care Paul, don't think about the amount of time you put in against the return - seriously your not a pro. If you win then a little money for your gf and a new pair of shoes - all helps.
Cant relate myself to what have you said as being a student and living on a very tight budget the money i have made from poker makes a big difference to my actual life so however big or small it will motivate me to carry on even in the tough times, whereas from the sounds of it the money you make has no real impact with your actual life and is kind of like being good and wanting to get higher and higher on a video game that just so happens to involve money.
My advice would be spend your roll on whatever games you fancy playing e.g. if there is a big tourny you fancy playing or a juicy cash game then just play and dont worry about what happens, then if your bankroll goes ( which i'm sure it wudnt) you could just work out what surplus money you can afford to spend on your hobby every month and carry on as above playing games you enjoy with no real pressure to build and build.
Finally once you have had a few days to reflect i'm sure you will be remotivated to crush again, you don't seem the type to just give up. I would say if your spending 20 hours a week playing, then take a few hours of the time a week to study the game, just read and read. That helped me personally, this time last year i kind of knew how to play the game but would never of been profitable long term, just a standard break even player that would splash around, but i got hold of aload of pdfs (would happily share what i have) and just read and read all sorts of stuff, can be boring at times but there is nothing better than reading a golden piece of information or strategy that makes something just click in your way of thinking and apporach to the game.
I love the game Gary, just not cash. I only wanted to learn/play cash as I saw it as the most consistent form of the game in terms of better players beating worse ones. Tbh, I wouldn't find cash so boring if it wasnt just so heavily reliant on finding out which villians are just nuts peddlers. Obv we don't wanna be playing against brilliant players a lot better than us, and its good for us when people are see-through in their style, but just fels pretty boring when you get 3bet and the number of people you can say 'ok so that's JJ+ or AK (maybe AQ if we're lucky)'. Before anyone says it, I know this is good from a winnimg sense, but from an enjoyment sense imo it sucks. Posted by Lambert180
All this stuff you say about poker and people 3 betting a narrow range, this is the essence of poker dude. Adjust, adapt, exploit - it's not easy unless your stacking fish tbh )
I could write you a book about tight robotic regs, but they are winners. Yes it's pretty predictable and boring and pretty much relies on coolers and stacking fish but hey cmon Paul how easy is it to adjust to someone that doesn't adjust.
This stuff above is the fun in poker dude - your missing it )
Can I just say that for someone who does spreadsheets, thinks about c4p - and has grinded forever -
Try not looking at your BR amount or any spreadshets for a month. Just play and concentrate on making good choices at the table. Look at hands etc.. examine them - go to deueces cracked try the 7 day trail - watch videos - may breath some life into your game and open your mind a bit
Your just putting too much pressure on yourself to win money and move up to win lots of money. But w/e money you win at cash it's alwasy relative to your BR. Essentially you get to a point where you play poker not just for fun because you have an expectation of winning. When that doesn't happen then your like it's not fun. Do you enjoy poker more when your winning and things are going good ? You have a job, like me so get realsitic your never going to make big enough money to leave your job. Maybe in 2-3 years time you may have worked your way up enough to do this but for now you need to think about what you want to acheive. Me, I am happy if I win enough each month to treat the kids to something. Plus I still play cash to pay for my MTT entries as you know one day I am going to win massive ) take care Paul, don't think about the amount of time you put in against the return - seriously your not a pro. If you win then a little money for your gf and a new pair of shoes - all helps. run good Posted by rancid
Well definitely lol but I think it's fair to say that's true of most people. Like we're all gonna enjoy winning an MTT more than bubbling one, but if I bubble an MTT I have still enjoyed playing. That does differ with cash, if I play for 2 hours and lose a bit then I do think urgh what a grind for nothing but this comes back to me ultimately not enjoying playing cash that much.
Yeah I have no illusions of quitting my job from poker, certainly not while playing 20NL lol, but if I'm doing something that feels like a grind I want it to be worthwhile. Like say I was making £1000 per month but feeling like I am now, I'd think the grind was worth the payoff cos tbh that's how I feel about my job. It's not like I love my job but the wages pay well enough to do something that isn't the most interesting thing in the world.
That is the difference, I don't feel like MTTs are a grind so it's not like I have to win to make it worthwhile cos it was worthwhile for the fun I got from it whether I win or lose.
You may have touched on another point there Rancid in that I never withdraw funds from Sky ever, and so perhaps am not seeing the fruits of my labour, other than to see a number I post here everyday going up or down.
Another problem of mine is being far too stubborn. Sometimes it can be a good trait but sometimes it can be a right pain in the @$$. I'm being driven mad by cash but it's the only format of the game I'm not in profit with since I started Sky (I think). Some may say well that's a reason to play the other games you do beat, others may say well get better and beat this format too. I dunno, certainly not worth stressing about.
Play the games you enjoy and ditch the games that are boring. You'll have more fun and probably make more money too.
That's why I choose to never play cash. I don't care if it's more profitable in theory than tournament play, I'd rather watch paint dry than play a cash game. Everybody is different and I salute the cash specialists, I have absolutely nothing against them. It's just that as far as I'm concerned nothing in the game is more exciting than a deep tournament run.
Cant relate myself to what have you said as being a student and living on a very tight budget the money i have made from poker makes a big difference to my actual life so however big or small it will motivate me to carry on even in the tough times, whereas from the sounds of it the money you make has no real impact with your actual life and is kind of like being good and wanting to get higher and higher on a video game that just so happens to involve money. My advice would be spend your roll on whatever games you fancy playing e.g. if there is a big tourny you fancy playing or a juicy cash game then just play and dont worry about what happens, then if your bankroll goes ( which i'm sure it wudnt) you could just work out what surplus money you can afford to spend on your hobby every month and carry on as above playing games you enjoy with no real pressure to build and build. Finally once you have had a few days to reflect i'm sure you will be remotivated to crush again, you don't seem the type to just give up. I would say if your spending 20 hours a week playing, then take a few hours of the time a week to study the game, just read and read. That helped me personally, this time last year i kind of knew how to play the game but would never of been profitable long term, just a standard break even player that would splash around, but i got hold of aload of pdfs (would happily share what i have) and just read and read all sorts of stuff, can be boring at times but there is nothing better than reading a golden piece of information or strategy that makes something just click in your way of thinking and apporach to the game. Posted by benc
This is exactly what it's like, and I actually posted a couple of months ago on here saying something very similar. Like I said to Rancid, I never withdraw so it doesn't make any difference to my real life and it is just like score keeping. That's also my competetive side showing through... no matter what I play I want to win. That part of me does make me strive to get better at things so I do win and it's probably what has got me as far as I am now with poker, but it also leads to me putting pressure on myself to do better and better.
Dont move down levels there is no reason to. Dropping 10 buyins does not suddenly mean we are bad at the game i know exceptionally good players who have dropped 30 buyins in a short space of time. Your still rolled to play 20nl so i think moving down would be a mistake as i think bankroll management is overrated at times. Your good enough to beat 20nl and you will continue to get better with the learning your doing at the moment. Can understand totally how you got frustrated with nitty regs when your 3 bet and have to fold aq etc. I got frustrated with it aswell at 50nl and sometimes i wished sky had a fold and show button so i could show them me folding queens! Now a days im a tournament grinder against a bunch of french maniacs. The styles of peoples play vary dramatically from site to site on here people limp call and are passive if you play against french players its totally different altogether as they are aggresive but bad aggresive as they will pick awful spots to bluff in and is easy to call them down trapping people works alot more on there letting them hang them selves. Where as on sky the style of play is completely different altogether both against the recreational players and the regs.
If you play 20 hours a week of HU i'm sure you would make some decent money and quickly build a really good bankroll, but then obviously that may not be enjoyable to you, to me i love playing HU and cant play cash for too long unless im playing with people i know or too many tournys as i hate slogging for a couple of hours and getting nowhere, although i have to agree with gary the occasions i have ran very deep have prob been my highest points in poker. At least you have a cash perspective, a tourny perspective and a sng perspective lol
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Stepping back down in the hardest thing to do, but sometimes you gotta do it Paul.
Beleive me it's very easy to lose £200 at nl20 if things run against you.
If your having a shot at nl20 then if you lose 4 bins, be it cooler or not then step back down untill your ready to have a go again. Nothing worse than bleeding money.
I myself went through a horrible downswing in december and into early january, some might say this was because I withdraw some of my monies ) During this time I was close to saying "**** it" how can I beat these games and now I can't even win a hand, no matter what I had. During this time I lost about £450.
So with withdrawing and running so bad at nl20, I went back to a £500 br after xmas and play nl10.
Does it annoy me, yes - should I deposit the money I withdraw - no because I spent it over xmas - lol
Need to have some patience and displine and you have that to build a roll now.
It's not as easy to accelrate through the levels unless you run like god.
It will come, take your time.
You just need to ask yourself an honest question "How did I build my BR"
If you have grinded cash and beat the level then great.
But because you have binked some MTT money and win at hyper's, doesn't mean you should even be playing nl20 because have you really beaten nl10.
Prove to yourself you can beat nl10 then take a shot at nl20.
Play nl10 for a month, beat that then move on.
Don't feel you need to rush, build up your cash game.
Worse thing you can do is beleive you better than what your are, and you have it all sussed.
There's always more to learn.
chin up, don't give up - you ain't even started
Marc
While Emma said I was thinking about packing in the cash, what's more true is that I've been thinking of packing in all forms of online poker for the most part. This isn't a variance thing,or an issue with online poker par se, as you'll probably know I think that anyone convinced that online poker is rigged is pretty stupid...
Just recent events made we re-evaluate a few things... ultimately there's probably an 80/20 split in terms of the reason I play, 80% being money, 20% being fun. I play for fun but derive very little of this from cash poker tbh, the reason I play cash is to make money (and clearly I'm no good at that lol). Also, I'm only really interested in it in terms of being a stepping stone to winning decent amounts of money.
I know this might sound stupid to some and I could well get shot down for it, but this is my opinion... If someone said to me, you can play cash poker for say 20 hours per month every month and guaranteed you will win £100 a month (no more, no less) every single month, I wouldn't play the game. I know that some people would love to be in the above situation but for me it just doesn't warrant the amount of time I'm putting in. I'm playing cash as a means of making money and tbh I could make £100 a month by putting less than a quarter of that time in per month doing overtime in work.
Now there's a number of obstacles, the main one imo being that I just don't think I'm good enough to make serious money from poker. 20 hours per month is a fair amount of time while having a job and if the money aint there, I'd rather just play on the xbox or something. I don't wanna sound like a moaner, I'm not complaining about my situation at all, I know there are TONS of people who would absolutely love to be able to play the game and just be break even from it.
I have no doubt in my mind that I could carry on and build back to like £750 and more, I just dunno if it's an effective use of my time.
Good point made by Doh the other day on his diary about how great it was years ago to be naive about poker, and how as you learn more and know what a decent winrate for any given game it's just like urgh cba grinding for less than minimum wage.
@ Splashies - Yeah I'm totally agreed with you there, and there was some tilt involved at stages of the session obv
@ Rancid - Cheers, very good advice and all very true.
@ Benc - Thanks for the post, always nice to have some of my own advice quoted back at me lol.
@ Dohhh - I know, I know, it does make it feel less painful looking at it that way. So the first mention of my BR... it's now £550 so I lost 10 BIs although it was largely courtesy of 4 stack offs on MC tables so that alone was 8BIs. But yeah it still isn't to be sniffed at I guess, but if it takes me 9 months to win £300 profit, I'm not sure it's the best use of my time in a financial sense, and I've already mentioned that I just don't enjoy cash.
@ BigNoise - Cheers, and yeah I know that it's unimportant in the grand scheme of things which is kinda the basis of me re-thinking things. I've discussed how the small amounts don't mean a lot to me, so even more so it seems bizarre me playing a game that I don't really enjoy, don't make much money from, and stresses me out.
@ Percival - Great post, more please lol.
@ Bugaloo - Nah not harsh at all and yeah you are right that it is something deeper than just the swinginess of poker. I have been playing a long time, and understand variance etc, as I say I think this is more about a long term view of things. I know I can win that money back but can I be @ssed... not sure lol.
@ Shaun - Well done for seeming to be the only one that noticed that while my latest update was £750, that doesn't mean it's what I've got now lol.
So in summary, I have no idea what I'm gonna do. I've wasted your time and my time writing all this and knowing me, I'll probably be back on the tables tonight!! Dunno, think the moral of the story is, when you aint good enough to grind out decent money you just gotta settle for fun, so more MTTs for me and much more live poker me thinks.
Tbh, I wouldn't find cash so boring if it wasnt just so heavily reliant on finding out which villians are just nuts peddlers. Obv we don't wanna be playing against brilliant players a lot better than us, and its good for us when people are see-through in their style, but just fels pretty boring when you get 3bet and the number of people you can say 'ok so that's JJ+ or AK (maybe AQ if we're lucky)'. Before anyone says it, I know this is good from a winnimg sense, but from an enjoyment sense imo it sucks.
But w/e money you win at cash it's alwasy relative to your BR.
Essentially you get to a point where you play poker not just for fun because you have an expectation of winning.
When that doesn't happen then your like it's not fun.
Do you enjoy poker more when your winning and things are going good ?
You have a job, like me so get realsitic your never going to make big enough money to leave your job.
Maybe in 2-3 years time you may have worked your way up enough to do this but for now you need to think about what you want to acheive.
Me, I am happy if I win enough each month to treat the kids to something.
Plus I still play cash to pay for my MTT entries as you know one day I am going to win massive )
take care Paul, don't think about the amount of time you put in against the return - seriously your not a pro. If you win then a little money for your gf and a new pair of shoes - all helps.
run good
My advice would be spend your roll on whatever games you fancy playing e.g. if there is a big tourny you fancy playing or a juicy cash game then just play and dont worry about what happens, then if your bankroll goes ( which i'm sure it wudnt) you could just work out what surplus money you can afford to spend on your hobby every month and carry on as above playing games you enjoy with no real pressure to build and build.
Finally once you have had a few days to reflect i'm sure you will be remotivated to crush again, you don't seem the type to just give up. I would say if your spending 20 hours a week playing, then take a few hours of the time a week to study the game, just read and read. That helped me personally, this time last year i kind of knew how to play the game but would never of been profitable long term, just a standard break even player that would splash around, but i got hold of aload of pdfs (would happily share what i have) and just read and read all sorts of stuff, can be boring at times but there is nothing better than reading a golden piece of information or strategy that makes something just click in your way of thinking and apporach to the game.
All this stuff you say about poker and people 3 betting a narrow range, this is the essence of poker dude.
Adjust, adapt, exploit - it's not easy unless your stacking fish tbh )
I could write you a book about tight robotic regs, but they are winners.
Yes it's pretty predictable and boring and pretty much relies on coolers and stacking fish but hey cmon Paul how easy is it to adjust to someone that doesn't adjust.
This stuff above is the fun in poker dude - your missing it )
Can I just say that for someone who does spreadsheets, thinks about c4p - and has grinded forever -
Try not looking at your BR amount or any spreadshets for a month.
Just play and concentrate on making good choices at the table.
Look at hands etc.. examine them - go to deueces cracked try the 7 day trail - watch videos -
may breath some life into your game and open your mind a bit
Yeah I have no illusions of quitting my job from poker, certainly not while playing 20NL lol, but if I'm doing something that feels like a grind I want it to be worthwhile. Like say I was making £1000 per month but feeling like I am now, I'd think the grind was worth the payoff cos tbh that's how I feel about my job. It's not like I love my job but the wages pay well enough to do something that isn't the most interesting thing in the world.
That is the difference, I don't feel like MTTs are a grind so it's not like I have to win to make it worthwhile cos it was worthwhile for the fun I got from it whether I win or lose.
You may have touched on another point there Rancid in that I never withdraw funds from Sky ever, and so perhaps am not seeing the fruits of my labour, other than to see a number I post here everyday going up or down.
Another problem of mine is being far too stubborn. Sometimes it can be a good trait but sometimes it can be a right pain in the @$$. I'm being driven mad by cash but it's the only format of the game I'm not in profit with since I started Sky (I think). Some may say well that's a reason to play the other games you do beat, others may say well get better and beat this format too. I dunno, certainly not worth stressing about.
That's why I choose to never play cash. I don't care if it's more profitable in theory than tournament play, I'd rather watch paint dry than play a cash game. Everybody is different and I salute the cash specialists, I have absolutely nothing against them. It's just that as far as I'm concerned nothing in the game is more exciting than a deep tournament run.