Has this decision really been thought through? I've just logged on for the first time in 2 days to re-start the DYM challenge and find that the 30p ones have been dropped. Then to make matters worse, the thread discussing this decision is closed "to stop the argument going round in circles"!
The reasons given for this (sorry Sky) just don't seem to make sense. The 30p ones fill up quicker than at any other level (I sometimes log on for an hour at lunchtime and play the first low-level (i,e, £2+rake or lower) that fills up, 90% of the time it is a 30p one.
I do understand why you would be upset about it old chap (was only joking in first post--- But they really were a waste of space those 30p dyms. Personally, I think there is too much luck involved in a 5 minute blinds game, at that level, to make them of any value in poker terms, and also in profit terms, so I fail to see the point in playing them.
I would be interested in finding out why people play them however
Has this decision really been thought through? I've just logged on for the first time in 2 days to re-start the DYM challenge and find that the 30p ones have been dropped. Then to make matters worse, the thread discussing this decision is closed "to stop the argument going round in circles"! The reasons given for this (sorry Sky) just don't seem to make sense. The 30p ones fill up quicker than at any other level (I sometimes log on for an hour at lunchtime and play the first low-level (i,e, £2+rake or lower) that fills up, 90% of the time it is a 30p one. Very disappointed by this decision. Posted by FCHD
I think it was bad form closing the thread that debated the issue though.
Would'nt like to speculate why they did that. That might get this thread closed, and that would be going round in circles! Like when you are playing 30p dyms or something.
i can only speak for myself oynutter. i just like to play for abit of fun ,without the risk of losing to much money .not everyones in it yo make loads of money . sky already descriminate against the micro players, with the highest rake. also with the non free freerolls 50 points to play, thats 50 winning 30 dyms. the value on this site is bad enough without sky doing this.
It's also another kick in the wotsits to micro-stakes players - we've already had the Cash 4 Points on 2p/4p cash tables halved, and that level now completely ignored on the TV Channel.
Thanks Epwb-- It's not easy to build a bankroll from nothing, and I have spent much time complaining on the forum about the low stakes rake. But, I do thinks it's reasonable for Sky to expect new players to make some initial investment. If you deposit 30 quid, then the 30p dyms are a waste of time and effort, even depositing a tenner would (imo) make these games a bad investment.
So is it unreasonable of Sky to expect people to have to deposit 20 quid in order to build a bankroll?
There are much better ways of learning how to play poker than these games surely.
yes you are right oynutter, sky are in it to make money. but it seems to me they are not catering for every level of player.is it really to much for their system to leave afew 30p dyms for people to play. on another site i play on ,you can play a 60 seater tourny for 2 cents . i like this site, but my worry is if sky continue to alienate micro players they will find plenty of other sites witch are more than willing to have lots of low entry buy ins ,for the recreational players .
Sorry i think this goes deeper than just running costs.Sit & go's in general have taken a beating over last year or two.First its the browser version is limited so the 18 & 30 player games get the chop with the promise that when download is up & running it will be looked at again. Now to start messing with the ground roots level seems very odd.
hi all personally i think sky was wrong to let them go. cos if a player depos a fiver if a player goes on a roll say 13 times thats 2.60 profit so the player depo a fiver is on 7.60. then can afford to lose 8 times before back to five but could carry on winning and every little helps and should only be for beginners even tho everyone is welcome
valid points by everyone, freerolls should be free as like in most other sites and when playing your poker points, there should be some kind better inCENTment for them games, not much but some, keeps people on here and this place needs it, 30p dym is bingo in poker form but they should've kept it going because it can be a good warm up before we play, heres another point of view....why waste £2.20 on 7 games of 30p dym when you can and buy into a bounty hunter and win your money back by just knocking out a few players.
2/3 of the Squaddies are very dissapointed they have gone!!
Good training & practice it seemed, at a cheap price, for the lower levels, YOUR FUTURE PROSPECTS!!
Do many really play on the free tables now?? i would have thought maybe only a few people, getting used to the software!!
Were sky losing money on the 30p DYM's, marginal if at all!!
Arguments here have been well presented & constructed, i'd be intereseted to see if sky reply, sry if they had somewhere already!!
BUT EVEN Better, I be full of respect for Sky if, on consideration, they put them back in, for maybe a trial period, THEN see how well they are supported!! I know it gave everyone a good start into DYM, & the DYM Challenge!!
I challenge YOU Now SKY, think about the feelgood factor if you were shown to be listening & ACTING!!
myself and paige55 only really played 30p DYM,S.WE ARE JUST FUN PLAYER,S AND NOT REALLY OUT TO MAKE A PROFIT.SAD THEY HAVE GONE,GUESS WE WILL CLOSE OUR ACCOUNTS WITH SKY AND MOVE ON.IT WAS FUN WHILE IT LASTED,ALL THE BEST TO YOU SKY REGARDS HUNTER1967 AND PAIGE55 XXX
I suppose it all comes down to what floats your boat. 30p wouldn't do for me and i can say categorically that i play for fun. However, a goal is to make profit andi like the buzz that say a small overall gain on a night's entertainment or even just "hot" on sharkscope gives. £3.30 DYM occasionally £5.50, and a few MTT's of <£5.75 is my 'boat' especially single tables. There's no grind but there is a competitive flavour to it and usually players are well-schooled in strategy so not many maniacal plays.
It really does come down to how you percieve your play and your attitude towards the money involved. I satellited into a !%k BH twice for £1.60. Absolutely chuffed but could not pull the trigger on either occasion as the weight of the £15 on my avatar was greater than the perception of my skill level. I just was uncomfortable and who would make a choice to be uncomfortable except those people who go to see a 'friendly' dominatrix(in some homes that's called 'the missus' by the way!!)
All the best. Hope the next level will attract you and you will be comfortable....
Hi folks I suppose it all comes down to what floats your boat. 30p wouldn't do for me and i can say categorically that i play for fun. However, a goal is to make profit andi like the buzz that say a small overall gain on a night's entertainment or even just "hot" on sharkscope gives. £3.30 DYM occasionally £5.50, and a few MTT's of <£5.75 is my 'boat' especially single tables. There's no grind but there is a competitive flavour to it and usually players are well-schooled in strategy so not many maniacal plays. It really does come down to how you percieve your play and your attitude towards the money involved. I satellited into a !%k BH twice for £1.60. Absolutely chuffed but could not pull the trigger on either occasion as the weight of the £15 on my avatar was greater than the perception of my skill level. I just was uncomfortable and who would make a choice to be uncomfortable except those people who go to see a 'friendly' dominatrix(in some homes that's called 'the missus' by the way!!) All the best. Hope the next level will attract you and you will be comfortable.... Posted by profman15
Profman i dont think however if we take people who have a BR like myself and yourself, many people who are new to poker they deposit a fiver to learn. Some people dont even do this they accept the welcome bonus' and enjoy what they can to learn. A small cash with any of the tokens they get or the new player freeroll would easily allow for learning at 30p dyms. I doupt it would comfortably allow for them learning at 60p dyms. If you consider most sites also offer a 0.01/0.02p level of cash which again isnt offered on sky, to be comfortable playing within a bankroll on sky you really need £40 ok thats maybe abit much for 60p dyms, but really is it? If your learning a doupt it. Again for NL4 10BIs is very small so you could say you want £80 for cash. Maybe £30 for dyms and mtyts obv the highest variance so we need more anyways but the lowest level any decent structure comes in regular is £2.20 (£1.10 ones do run but not on a regular enough basis) and obviously the 60p mtts are well just crayze and designed for 5 minutes fun rather than a tourny to win.
I posted in 2 places yesterday regards to this and as yet no reply but i really believe if your a low br player on sky, your fighting with very few buy ins and even worse your fighting with very high rake. So few BI's v high rake makes it difficut for anyone. I dont care how good they are, its going to be hard.
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The reasons given for this (sorry Sky) just don't seem to make sense. The 30p ones fill up quicker than at any other level (I sometimes log on for an hour at lunchtime and play the first low-level (i,e, £2+rake or lower) that fills up, 90% of the time it is a 30p one.
Very disappointed by this decision.
I would be interested in finding out why people play them however
Would'nt like to speculate why they did that. That might get this thread closed, and that would be going round in circles! Like when you are playing 30p dyms or something.
So is it unreasonable of Sky to expect people to have to deposit 20 quid in order to build a bankroll?
There are much better ways of learning how to play poker than these games surely.
yes you are right oynutter, sky are in it to make money. but it seems to me they are not catering for every level of player.is it really to much for their system to leave afew 30p dyms for people to play. on another site i play on ,you can play a 60 seater tourny for 2 cents . i like this site, but my worry is if sky continue to alienate micro players they will find plenty of other sites witch are more than willing to have lots of low entry buy ins ,for the recreational players .
Now to start messing with the ground roots level seems very odd.
hope u low stakes players get them back
gl all at the tables whereever it shall be
2/3 of the Squaddies are very dissapointed they have gone!!
Good training & practice it seemed, at a cheap price, for the lower levels, YOUR FUTURE PROSPECTS!!
Do many really play on the free tables now?? i would have thought maybe only a few people, getting used to the software!!
Were sky losing money on the 30p DYM's, marginal if at all!!
Arguments here have been well presented & constructed, i'd be intereseted to see if sky reply, sry if they had somewhere already!!
BUT EVEN Better, I be full of respect for Sky if, on consideration, they put them back in, for maybe a trial period, THEN see how well they are supported!! I know it gave everyone a good start into DYM, & the DYM Challenge!!
I challenge YOU Now SKY, think about the feelgood factor if you were shown to be listening & ACTING!!
WE COULD DO WITH SOME GOOD NEWS LATLEY!!
I'm trying, WILL YOU??
I suppose it all comes down to what floats your boat. 30p wouldn't do for me and i can say categorically that i play for fun. However, a goal is to make profit andi like the buzz that say a small overall gain on a night's entertainment or even just "hot" on sharkscope gives. £3.30 DYM occasionally £5.50, and a few MTT's of <£5.75 is my 'boat' especially single tables. There's no grind but there is a competitive flavour to it and usually players are well-schooled in strategy so not many maniacal plays.
It really does come down to how you percieve your play and your attitude towards the money involved. I satellited into a !%k BH twice for £1.60. Absolutely chuffed but could not pull the trigger on either occasion as the weight of the £15 on my avatar was greater than the perception of my skill level. I just was uncomfortable and who would make a choice to be uncomfortable except those people who go to see a 'friendly' dominatrix(in some homes that's called 'the missus' by the way!!)
All the best. Hope the next level will attract you and you will be comfortable....
I posted in 2 places yesterday regards to this and as yet no reply but i really believe if your a low br player on sky, your fighting with very few buy ins and even worse your fighting with very high rake. So few BI's v high rake makes it difficut for anyone. I dont care how good they are, its going to be hard.