today i've been very busy and as i've not got much time before the match kicks off i'll remain away from it tonight, so this update is based on Tuesdays poker as it was so late by the time i exited the 1K BH.
My total out come in the first session was a one which i finish pretty much as a started and boils down to two hands really as it could have been so much better had my flush came. What happened was when i raised with the nut flush draw OTFj1010ss and my opponent then followed with a reraise overbet jam (£33.40 into a pot that was £14.80), all i could see was it's either trips JJ or over playing an overpair and as he made a 3bet preflop, i already see tripe being unlikely as nl20 is a level which A10 is very rarely going to be 3bet pre, so it's either JJ or overpair, the thing about JJ is it's again the type of hand which on nl20 doesn't get a great amount of 3betting but instead getting called then played aggressively as an overpair and even if he does hold JJ i'm thinking surely he would be wanting to keep others in with these monsters therefore i went with the overpair. It turned out i was right as he turned KK i still missed the flush and A meaning i lost my £36. Later on i did get it back from a standard AA vs KK cooler and so that session finished as £1.63 profit.
my second session was a great one which just had me on the good end of coolers. It certainly seemed to be in my favour as each of the tables finished profit.
After that session i did a number of MTTs and it is questionable weather or not i make the right move calling the flush draw on the turn knowing that if i were to miss it i'm likely to be the bubbled person. What happened is i min raised QQ flop comes JJxcc i cbet the flop and opponent calls the turn then gives a 3rd club and he shoves his stack, now because it's on the bubble and my stack is slightly larger i'm thinking he probably has the flush if not trips, having the Qc i decide to call because whilst i do see myself behind i'm thinking at the same time he might see this bubble as a chance to bluff and well as i did have profit from HPs and was doing great in another BH i choose to call plus i might be able to double up my remaining 2500 chips.
in the end even with a small MTT loss i was in profit thanks to my earlier cash session
today was another fine day of cash table poker with some great hands and a number of good hero calls. overall i had 4 cash sessions today starting with a early one played during the early semi, having a semi up i decided to just play 2 cash tables as i wanted to keep some focus on the semi, in the semi itself i think i played it a bit too much like an actual MTT because during times when short stacks were limping i tried to threaten them by jamming hands like 33 and it ended up loosing my chip stack. The cash was played good and i'm starting to sense just how powerful the 3betting can be when used correctly and i think the best sign came from my exit hand that happened in the BH (see below)
MY second session was a short one and i might have lost some concentration for small period because when i open raised K4s and got 3bet i called OOP then Ch/R a flop and when he jammed i choose to call now the think was i had very little outs so my only guess for this call was it's a HU game but still i should have either folded or left right away as it's nl40 and he seemed to be a much more aggressive player than i normally come across and aggressive HU is something i've got very little XP of due to most these stakes being passive for various reasons.
once shy poker started i decided to do some MS and that hour was my best session of the day with profits on each and every MS table and an overall winning of £92. My best hand in the MS came when i choose to bet for value with two pair on a 3 clubbed turn, a person with a flush decides to MR giving me the pot odds to call my two pair hoping to hit the FH and the river does just that coming a 2nd A, does a Bet which i then would could it be called an in the end decide to jam making the pot £46 and having called the other £23 allowed me to double up my stack with FH.
The main event didn't last very long at all as i swiftly exited that on with a semi bluff but what i do ask myself is weather or not being a person who has open raised makes the bluff better on the river than one the turn because as i've seen from cash an opening raise will have a range so much wider than that of a 3bet so the calls preflop and flop are much harder to pit down in comparison to the range of hands which are 3bet, i did go out of the mini with a semi bluffed hand that was 3bet pre but in truth i just had the unfortune callingstation because he called with Q4s preflop then does a call on the flop 984cc and unfortunely the Q comes on the turn and my representation of the Q was no use.
Something is just not right with my sky poker game at the minute as i've now lost over £1100 in a month!
Today alone i've lost £200 and looking at my big losses over £10 they are not much worst than my big winnings over £10 so that tells me it's surely got nothing to do with coolers. my thought are that I may be playing far too loose and aggressive but what i'm not so sure of is weather it's when my hand selection IP or my hand selection OOP so i've came up with a plan using 888 poker.
my plan is between now and the beginning of UKOPS i will leave sky poker alone and play 888 poker non stop as they have got more 9 max tables and the benifit of them tables is the button doesn't come round as often, so if i am managing to make wins their then i'm thinking these bad losses i'm getting on sky could be down to late positions and the blinds, but if i'm getting losses on that site then it's my play in general in which case i'll do a full review of my game.
another thing i'm going to do in general is play much more 888poker because at the minute i don't play enough of it. What i'm doing is draining my BR on sky poker by chasing the loss i recieved in my first cash session when playing my second cash session, by playing my second session on 888poker i can consider it my first session of the day knowing that BR is still break even and what it can help with long term is allowing my confidence to remain high rather than drop to a very low point from the frustration of chasing losses continuously playing the same site day in day out.
I have read a lot of your posts, especially after your big cash. What I am going to write now may help or may not depending on how you take it. It is certainly not meant as a dig.
Take the big win out of your figures. Look at your long term results minus that one huge win. Are you still winning? It is easy to think that you are playing better than you are or even a better player than you are, especially after a huge score. For that night poker was easy and you took on some of the best in the business and got heads up with the best player in the world.
Imagine how good you would have to be in a sport to do that! I am a competent tennis player but could I get through an ATP tournament and end up playing Federer, Nadal or Murrey in the final? Not a chance, I wouldn't win a point off those guys, not one point. I wouldn't get a point of the guys that lose in the first round of qualifying! That is the beauty of poker, it's not all skill. You have admitted yourself that you ran golden in that tournament.
If you think you are better than you are, rest assured poker will bring you back to earth with a huge jolt. It has done that to some of the best players the game has seen and will continue to do so.
One of the most impressive SS graphs I have ever seen was a player who was a long term winning player at the $1 to $3 MTT level. He then won a huge Sunday event for $250,000, I presume he satellited in to it. The impressive thing? He went back to playing $1 to $3 tournaments!
There you are that's my tuppence worth. No hand analysis, no game strategy, more of a warning. I hope it helps.
My feelings are, and they maybe wrong, but it seems now you have a healthy BR you are probably playing more looser as losing a BI or three won't greatly affect your balance. I suggest removing the balance that is above your usual role and continue to play at your usual stakes.
Happy new year all, now that 2014 is over, I shall put that HR to one side and get back to how my poker use to be.
Although I've played the occasional game, overall the last fortnight I've remained quiet and just enjoyed Christmas, Now it's a new year, so it's time to set myself a new years resolution and this one is going mean less play but more reading.
The way I became a chess master was not by jumping straight into the game, first I read book, therefore i'm set myself an aim to read through some poker books slowly and steadily, that way i'll be able to really get an understanding of the game because recent years I've rushed my way through too quickly.
Also because of the difficulty I have traveling, i'm aiming to treat myself to a live sky community poker event being held in Newcastle, this will give me the chance to meet some people and finally see for myself what it's like playing poker in a casino.
After 9pm m going to stop playing nl30 because this time in the evening tables seem to be looser, therefore varience is greater, i don't want to go down the road of chasing a bad beat therefore i shall remain on nl20.
I was looking to have broke even tonight but then came a river card which caused my stack to drop and after loosing to 42, i then lost another large one when i called with a middle pair on board J335 which was not too easy to give up having seen him play the 42s like he did.
preflop not sure what your opponent is doing entering the hand with 24
postflop you both played a drawing hand v aggressively and you were unlucky on the river. Got to be happy of the state of play when the money went in? That bit you can control so wp. The bit you cant control is the river card ul - reload.
Does seem it tilted you in the later hand which is something you should be able to control. I know that isnt that easy and we have all been there losing more than one BI to a loose player and it's alot easier to lose if they keep turning up with the goods/outdrawing us.
Tonight's session tells me i can actually play as many as 8 cash tables because when your playing tables packed with finish it's very hard to ever get a read so instead i just play lots of tables and that way if i recieve that bad loss on one table i've a good chance of remaining ahead overall, Another thing with nl20 is i'm got over 80 buy ins worth of nl20 which is not far from the BR recommendation.
i'm not really sure weather i should have lost a large sum or if i'm unlucky not to have won a large sum overall, i had about 8 sets in the two hours, two of which were nasty coolers because i was holding the smaller of the two sets that were hit and that cost me £40, the worst thing about them were. i had suffered hugely in the main event because that event too had seen me hit bottom set but loose to middle set. I do question weather or not i could have got away on that occasion.
Tonight I had been playing on 8 NL 20 tables at once. The thing about playing a total of 4 nl30 tables, whenever I had a cooler, them 3 tables with winnings would be just balancing the books. Now I’ve got 4-7 tables in winnings meaning I’ll have much more chance of still finishing with more than I started. Another problem I had when playing 4 higher stakes is the fish were been given the correct odds to call because I got too concerned they’d fold, playing 8 tables I’m not bothered what happens the important thing is that fish don’t get cheap prices for flush draws and raggy As.For a small moment of my session, I had some good aggressive play with another reg involving a successful attempt at bluffing myself a set. I 3bet/Called my hand IP preflop, then he cbet £3.98 (j108dd), so i decide to attempt to rep a set and know if he does call i’m still likely to have 6 aleast 6 outs possible. My bluff did work, we had a chat to each other as he told me he had AK and i said i’m not bothered what you had, just glad you’ve folded and now he looked as though he wanted revenge. What happened this time was I open raised 1010, he called OTB with 4d4s flop was 10s6h3s i cbet ¾ of pot, he calls, 7s came on the turn i bet ½ pot again he calls, river comes Qd i bet ½ and he attempts to bluff his hand but sadly for him i’ve got a set, ok i might be losing to the flush but still sigh called thinking he could have missed a runner runner flush draw himself. tonight £23.48
having qualified for the main event via an all in sat (4 played over all), I found it very easy to play, I wasn't bothered about loosing flips and the moment I got a bounty, i was able to act like a person who was happy to play with aggression vs the shorter stacks. Having managed to finish in 15th place It sounds strange to say this but, I feel disappointed with myself. What i'm annoyed with is the way I played KJs on the button having called a raise preflop and got decent note on the player who raised. What happened is this player Chs the flop (10s 9s 4c), now i knew not to bet the flop because i may have the Gutshot, but this villian has been known to L/RR QQ preflop and could well be planning to Ch/R the flop, so I do the Ch to see if i can hit a gutshot. My mistake was when the turn comes 6c, he might have been hoping to Ch/R a hand on the flop but i'm thinking now he's sure to hold junk and even if he did go all in i know for sure i'll have decent outs because nut flush draws are very unlikely to be part of a this persons range. but just doing a bet on the river make it too obvious a bluff.
SHO147
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14
£63.18 + £65.40 Head Prizes
5
craigcu12
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15
£63.18 + £119.94 Head Prizes
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miniM90
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16
£63.18 + £200.94 Head Prizes
10
Carrie2828
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17
£51.95 + £36.04 Head Prizes
2
so i might have won cash but i still didn't finish the day with a profit because my early day was a dreadful cash session with cooler after cooler.
I think we should just bet flop. People don't tend to 3x UTG out of a 20xBB stack at this stage of a ME without a pretty strong range. I think we need to assume JJ+ all bet the flop, so they're most likely holdings are things like AK/AQ which they'll either give up to 1 or two barrels especially as the flop hits us a lot better than it does them, so I think we should bet the flop.
As played it does look like a bluff although a lot of people still won't like calling with A high. Imo if we're gonna bluff this river, his range is capped to vv weak hands so we should just go really big on the river, maybe a shove, and we'll get folds almost 100% of the time
Agree with Lambo - assuming neither of you hit the flop, you are more likely to have hit than opponent - unless they have the overpair you should be able to push them off.
I think betting the flop is a good option - betting the turn after 2 checks and tons more equity with the flush draw is an absolute must.
You seem to already approeciate that was a mistake - not sure why you would call in position with a weaker range than an UTG raise if you are not prepared to try and take down the pot when opponent shows weakness.
River is too late and line too suspect to expect to get away with enough times to be profitable.
At these stages when you get a strong UTG raise (or a strong 3x in general) it usually is strong hand in the AQ/AK/JJ/QQ range. So calling isn't great. As played when the river pairs we cant really rep anything other than say 88 going for thin value. We just look so bluffy. But when he checks the wet board we have to think he has two high cards more often on a strong trappy one as no-one likes risking being outdrawn or losing out if the board runs out bad so this is a great spot to bet a reasonable amount on the flop knowing that you are going to follow through on any turn card.
i might have got a bit too obcessed with all in satsd today, overall i decided to enter myself into 11 of them and that was on top of two sats for the semi, overall it got me a bit confused with my final cash table totals because i was having a great time tonight, some tables had got my stack size two the buy ins worth yet my cash still came to a final total of -0.04.
I may have got a loss but overall, i'm thinking that ive got an idea of where i might be making all these losses, this afternoon i suffered lots of losses but this evening these same hands were now getting me winnings.
all in all i lost a total of £53.79
cash -4p but the last minute cooler was what give it that
SnG -£6.85
MTT -£46.90
I did for a a fair amount of time have a loss of about £43 looking to happen on 888 poker but then came some good coolers allowing me to finish on that site with £8.21
this year i am wanting to go to that DTD in newcastle, the trouble is i've never been to a live poker MTT, therefore i don't know how it work, so i would like to ask-
being a live event i would be expecting the MTT to be played through the weekend as a whole and as i live in spennymoor i could just get a bus back to my own house if i knew it finished at a certain time, so could someone tell me, do these live MTTs stop at around 11pm or will they continue on to a later time and leaving me to probably get a taxi (as taxis will cost about the same price as a hotel
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My total out come in the first session was a one which i finish pretty much as a started and boils down to two hands really as it could have been so much better had my flush came. What happened was when i raised with the nut flush draw OTFj1010ss and my opponent then followed with a reraise overbet jam (£33.40 into a pot that was £14.80), all i could see was it's either trips JJ or over playing an overpair and as he made a 3bet preflop, i already see tripe being unlikely as nl20 is a level which A10 is very rarely going to be 3bet pre, so it's either JJ or overpair, the thing about JJ is it's again the type of hand which on nl20 doesn't get a great amount of 3betting but instead getting called then played aggressively as an overpair and even if he does hold JJ i'm thinking surely he would be wanting to keep others in with these monsters therefore i went with the overpair. It turned out i was right as he turned KK i still missed the flush and A meaning i lost my £36. Later on i did get it back from a standard AA vs KK cooler and so that session finished as £1.63 profit.
my second session was a great one which just had me on the good end of coolers. It certainly seemed to be in my favour as each of the tables finished profit.
After that session i did a number of MTTs and it is questionable weather or not i make the right move calling the flush draw on the turn knowing that if i were to miss it i'm likely to be the bubbled person. What happened is i min raised QQ flop comes JJxcc i cbet the flop and opponent calls the turn then gives a 3rd club and he shoves his stack, now because it's on the bubble and my stack is slightly larger i'm thinking he probably has the flush if not trips, having the Qc i decide to call because whilst i do see myself behind i'm thinking at the same time he might see this bubble as a chance to bluff and well as i did have profit from HPs and was doing great in another BH i choose to call plus i might be able to double up my remaining 2500 chips.
in the end even with a small MTT loss i was in profit thanks to my earlier cash session
MTT -£16.69
cash £81.90
overall £65.31
The cash was played good and i'm starting to sense just how powerful the 3betting can be when used correctly and i think the best sign came from my exit hand that happened in the BH (see below)
MY second session was a short one and i might have lost some concentration for small period because when i open raised K4s and got 3bet i called OOP then Ch/R a flop and when he jammed i choose to call now the think was i had very little outs so my only guess for this call was it's a HU game but still i should have either folded or left right away as it's nl40 and he seemed to be a much more aggressive player than i normally come across and aggressive HU is something i've got very little XP of due to most these stakes being passive for various reasons.
once shy poker started i decided to do some MS and that hour was my best session of the day with profits on each and every MS table and an overall winning of £92. My best hand in the MS came when i choose to bet for value with two pair on a 3 clubbed turn, a person with a flush decides to MR giving me the pot odds to call my two pair hoping to hit the FH and the river does just that coming a 2nd A, does a Bet which i then would could it be called an in the end decide to jam making the pot £46 and having called the other £23 allowed me to double up my stack with FH.
The main event didn't last very long at all as i swiftly exited that on with a semi bluff but what i do ask myself is weather or not being a person who has open raised makes the bluff better on the river than one the turn because as i've seen from cash an opening raise will have a range so much wider than that of a 3bet so the calls preflop and flop are much harder to pit down in comparison to the range of hands which are 3bet, i did go out of the mini with a semi bluffed hand that was 3bet pre but in truth i just had the unfortune callingstation because he called with Q4s preflop then does a call on the flop 984cc and unfortunely the Q comes on the turn and my representation of the Q was no use.
cash £113.11
MTT -£47.53
overall £65.58
Today alone i've lost £200 and looking at my big losses over £10 they are not much worst than my big winnings over £10 so that tells me it's surely got nothing to do with coolers. my thought are that I may be playing far too loose and aggressive but what i'm not so sure of is weather it's when my hand selection IP or my hand selection OOP so i've came up with a plan using 888 poker.
my plan is between now and the beginning of UKOPS i will leave sky poker alone and play 888 poker non stop as they have got more 9 max tables and the benifit of them tables is the button doesn't come round as often, so if i am managing to make wins their then i'm thinking these bad losses i'm getting on sky could be down to late positions and the blinds, but if i'm getting losses on that site then it's my play in general in which case i'll do a full review of my game.
I have read a lot of your posts, especially after your big cash. What I am going to write now may help or may not depending on how you take it. It is certainly not meant as a dig.
Take the big win out of your figures. Look at your long term results minus that one huge win. Are you still winning? It is easy to think that you are playing better than you are or even a better player than you are, especially after a huge score. For that night poker was easy and you took on some of the best in the business and got heads up with the best player in the world.
Imagine how good you would have to be in a sport to do that! I am a competent tennis player but could I get through an ATP tournament and end up playing Federer, Nadal or Murrey in the final? Not a chance, I wouldn't win a point off those guys, not one point. I wouldn't get a point of the guys that lose in the first round of qualifying! That is the beauty of poker, it's not all skill. You have admitted yourself that you ran golden in that tournament.
If you think you are better than you are, rest assured poker will bring you back to earth with a huge jolt. It has done that to some of the best players the game has seen and will continue to do so.
One of the most impressive SS graphs I have ever seen was a player who was a long term winning player at the $1 to $3 MTT level. He then won a huge Sunday event for $250,000, I presume he satellited in to it. The impressive thing? He went back to playing $1 to $3 tournaments!
There you are that's my tuppence worth. No hand analysis, no game strategy, more of a warning. I hope it helps.
Although I've played the occasional game, overall the last fortnight I've remained quiet and just enjoyed Christmas, Now it's a new year, so it's time to set myself a new years resolution and this one is going mean less play but more reading.
The way I became a chess master was not by jumping straight into the game, first I read book, therefore i'm set myself an aim to read through some poker books slowly and steadily, that way i'll be able to really get an understanding of the game because recent years I've rushed my way through too quickly.
Also because of the difficulty I have traveling, i'm aiming to treat myself to a live sky community poker event being held in Newcastle, this will give me the chance to meet some people and finally see for myself what it's like playing poker in a casino.
I was looking to have broke even tonight but then came a river card which caused my stack to drop and after loosing to 42, i then lost another large one when i called with a middle pair on board J335 which was not too easy to give up having seen him play the 42s like he did.
tonight -£100.
i'm not really sure weather i should have lost a large sum or if i'm unlucky not to have won a large sum overall, i had about 8 sets in the two hours, two of which were nasty coolers because i was holding the smaller of the two sets that were hit and that cost me £40, the worst thing about them were. i had suffered hugely in the main event because that event too had seen me hit bottom set but loose to middle set. I do question weather or not i could have got away on that occasion.
tonight £23.48
overall i've lost myself £15.53
As played it does look like a bluff although a lot of people still won't like calling with A high. Imo if we're gonna bluff this river, his range is capped to vv weak hands so we should just go really big on the river, maybe a shove, and we'll get folds almost 100% of the time
I may have got a loss but overall, i'm thinking that ive got an idea of where i might be making all these losses, this afternoon i suffered lots of losses but this evening these same hands were now getting me winnings.
all in all i lost a total of £53.79
cash -4p but the last minute cooler was what give it that
SnG -£6.85
MTT -£46.90
I did for a a fair amount of time have a loss of about £43 looking to happen on 888 poker but then came some good coolers allowing me to finish on that site with £8.21
being a live event i would be expecting the MTT to be played through the weekend as a whole and as i live in spennymoor i could just get a bus back to my own house if i knew it finished at a certain time, so could someone tell me, do these live MTTs stop at around 11pm or will they continue on to a later time and leaving me to probably get a taxi (as taxis will cost about the same price as a hotel