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  • mushroom1mushroom1 Member Posts: 645
    In only the Mini currently, where I started fairly well, managing to double my starting stack by winning a number of small/medium pots.

    However, I was outdrawn when playing my first big all-in-pre hand.

    I get it in with Kings against Jacks and Tens and, as you do when on a poor run, I waited confidently for either the Jack or Ten to halt my progress.
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    mushroom1Small blind20.0020.004015.00
    HelsmavBig blind40.0060.001797.50
    Your hole cards
    • K
    • K
    seikusFold
    BigCesRaise280.00340.001290.00
    loosecamelFold
    manster50All-in2260.002600.000.00
    mushroom1All-in4015.006615.000.00
    HelsmavFold
    BigCesAll-in1290.007905.000.00
    mushroom1Unmatched bet1775.006130.001775.00
    mushroom1Show
    • K
    • K
    BigCesShow
    • J
    • J
    manster50Show
    • 10
    • 10
    Flop
    • A
    • 6
    • 2
    Turn
    • J
    River
    • 2
    BigCesWinFull House, Jacks and 2s4750.004750.00
    mushroom1WinTwo Pairs, Kings and 2s1380.003155.00
    Thankfully, this was a lost of only 880 tournament chips and I did win a bounty in the coup. Silver linings an' all that.
  • Jac35Jac35 Member Posts: 6,491
    edited December 2020
    Rowett is a disaster
    The rot started with him

    Selling Will Hughes for 5 million and signing Tom Lawrence for 7 million being a good example of his acumen in the transfer market

    Best bit of business he did for us was selling himself to Stoke for about 2 million
  • mushroom1mushroom1 Member Posts: 645
    Jac35 said:

    Rowett is a disaster
    The rot started with him

    Selling Will Hughes for 5 million and signing Tom Lawrence for 7 million being a good example of his acumen in the transfer market

    Best bit of business he did for us was selling himself to Stoke for about 2 million

    The thing is, it's rarely a club's decision to sell a prize asset. Once a player wants to go, he's as good as gone.

    Actually, I question whether "rarely" is the correct term, "never" is probably more accurate.

  • Jac35Jac35 Member Posts: 6,491
    mushroom1 said:

    Jac35 said:

    Rowett is a disaster
    The rot started with him

    Selling Will Hughes for 5 million and signing Tom Lawrence for 7 million being a good example of his acumen in the transfer market

    Best bit of business he did for us was selling himself to Stoke for about 2 million

    The thing is, it's rarely a club's decision to sell a prize asset. Once a player wants to go, he's as good as gone.

    Actually, I question whether "rarely" is the correct term, "never" is probably more accurate.

    I’m not sure that Hughes dreamed of signing for Watford when he was a boy

    Dropping him from the first team and making it quite clear that he wasn’t his sort of player may have had an influence on his decision to leave when Watford came in for him
  • mushroom1mushroom1 Member Posts: 645
    Jac35 said:

    mushroom1 said:

    Jac35 said:

    Rowett is a disaster
    The rot started with him

    Selling Will Hughes for 5 million and signing Tom Lawrence for 7 million being a good example of his acumen in the transfer market

    Best bit of business he did for us was selling himself to Stoke for about 2 million

    The thing is, it's rarely a club's decision to sell a prize asset. Once a player wants to go, he's as good as gone.

    Actually, I question whether "rarely" is the correct term, "never" is probably more accurate.

    I’m not sure that Hughes dreamed of signing for Watford when he was a boy

    Dropping him from the first team and making it quite clear that he wasn’t his sort of player may have had an influence on his decision to leave when Watford came in for him
    It's not so much the club, it's more the signing on fee, increased wages and the follow on. Though, I agree, it didn't end up a good move him. He was great when you beat us 1-5 at The Den. When we were managed by Holloway. Now THAT is what you call a clown of a manager! :D
  • mushroom1mushroom1 Member Posts: 645
    I'm still nowhere near my best, but, with three (small) cashes from seven tournaments over the weekend, there is, at least, some consistency for the first time in quite a while.

    I am hoping this is sign that I may be creeping back into some kind of form.

    Having now suffered both types of losing spells, I can confirm that running poorly > playing poorly. While the former may be responsible for the latter, it's a far from comforting excuse as, for any player, there is little worse than letting yourself down.
  • mushroom1mushroom1 Member Posts: 645
    mushroom1 said:

    I'm still nowhere near my best, but, with three (small) cashes from seven tournaments over the weekend, there is, at least, some consistency for the first time in quite a while.

    I am hoping this is sign that I may be creeping back into some kind of form.

    Having now suffered both types of losing spells, I can confirm that running poorly > playing poorly. While the former may be responsible for the latter, it's a far from comforting excuse as, for any player, there is little worse than letting yourself down.

    Having made a decent profit in the one MTT played on Monday, there is further evidence to suggest this may be the case.

    I finished 20th in the Mini after claiming a good few bounties and, had my final hand held up, I may have gone close to making the final table.
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    chief5902Small blind800.00800.0073052.00
    d4y0Big blind1600.002400.0031461.00
    Your hole cards
    • K
    • A
    Bigman2810Fold
    Stuart650Fold
    mushroom1All-in27462.8829862.880.00
    chief5902Fold
    d4y0Call25862.8855725.765598.12
    d4y0Show
    • A
    • 10
    mushroom1Show
    • K
    • A
    Flop
    • 6
    • 8
    • 3
    Turn
    • J
    River
    • 10
    d4y0WinPair of 10s55725.7661323.88
    Ooof.

    This came a few minutes after my Kings were busted when AIP, however, ultimately, it's all good as I am feeling much better about matters - which is handy timing, given I am currently under house arrest in Tier 4, with little else to do.
  • mushroom1mushroom1 Member Posts: 645
    I know it's illogical, but, for such a long time, I felt I was beat as soon as I logged on.

    I tried lots of things to get out of this terribly damaging mindset, with little success. Ultimately, I simply decided on playing less.

    In all forms of gambling, even winners have losing runs (obviously), the trick is to lose as least as possible during these inevitable runs - so playing less was sensible.

    Thankfully, as previous posts suggest, I am feeling much better about my chances of success and enjoying my time playing.

    This is extremely important to me as, with regards to online poker, this really is the only place I wish to play - I am totally sold on the short-handed bounty format.

    It will be "fun" should I ever play a full-handed regular old freezout again. :o
  • mushroom1mushroom1 Member Posts: 645
    In recent times, the King George VI Chase has been dominated by Paul Nicholls, Nicky Henderson and Colin Tizzard.

    The three yards have won every renewal since 2006 and have been responsible for 73% of all win/placed horses since 2009.

    With their combined runners dominating the markets every year, their blanket success during this time is understandable and, given the trio are responsible for six of the nine (likely) runners on Boxing Day, only a brave man would bet against another carve up.

    I am such a man. Kind of.

    Before continuing, let me be clear; I believe it is extremely likely that Saturday will prove another Nicholls/Henderson/Tizzard benefit. However, there could be some value surrounding one of the three runners aiming to upset the clique.

    I shall continue this later.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 168,791

    What a tease.

    Subscribed though.
  • mushroom1mushroom1 Member Posts: 645
    It appears I am heading for a blank this evening. However, I feel my play has been of a acceptable standard and it's been another enjoyable session.

    I am sent packing in the Mini after losing a hand where I was 95% favourite...

    ;)
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    adeward726Small blind75.0075.007315.00
    mushroom1Big blind150.00225.003385.00
    Your hole cards
    • A
    • K
    andyj1989Fold
    scooby78Fold
    bobby310Raise450.00675.0014410.00
    robbo343Call450.001125.008950.00
    adeward726Call375.001500.006940.00
    mushroom1All-in3385.004885.000.00
    bobby310All-in14410.0019295.000.00
    robbo343All-in8950.0028245.000.00
    adeward726Fold
    bobby310Unmatched bet5460.0022785.005460.00
    mushroom1Show
    • A
    • K
    bobby310Show
    • 10
    • A
    robbo343Show
    • Q
    • Q
    Flop
    • 5
    • A
    • 2
    Turn
    • 2
    River
    • Q
    robbo343WinFull House, Queens and 2s22785.0022785.00
    The Queen on the river was a Killer, but, I cannot be upset as Queen are one of my favourite bands.

    Now, were I sunk by a Five, I would've smashed the gaff up.

  • mushroom1mushroom1 Member Posts: 645
    The Mega went the same way, with an a 7,000+ loss with Aces causing irreparable damage.

    After two limpers I made it 6x with the bullets, receiving a caller on my left and one from the limpers.

    The flop appeared safe (Jack-high raggedy rainbow) so, naturally, I led the flop. Once doing so I cannot pass to the re-raise from my left.

    It wasn't the biggest surprise to see my opponent table trip Sixes.

    All fairly standard given the pre-flop deepness.

    Despite a decent start in the Gold Rush, were I scaled the dizzy heights of 30,000 tournament chips, I found myself situation dead for a period longer than ideal for the structure.

    One of my shoves finally gets called when I was holding pocket Tens and 12-bigs (five-handed). The caller found Jacks in the small blind.

    I shall probably chance my arm with a late reg in the Reload.
  • mushroom1mushroom1 Member Posts: 645
    The Reload was short and bitter.

    I double bought-in and close to the break and, after adding-on, started the freezeout period with around 8,500 tournament chips.

    I am dealt Ace-King in (maybe) my third hand. There was a min-raise UTG which was called by UTG+1 and the button.

    I am in the small blind.

    The raise is 360 total. It's quite a tricky spot, for me. I could make it 1,000-1,500, but then I am playing the hand out of position, obviously. If raising to 1,000-1,5000, I would call a re-shove due to the structure.

    Therefore, I decide to shove. Thoughts on this are welcomed - FYI I hold 40-odd big-blinds.

    I am snapped by the original raiser, who had Aces.

    I flop an Ace, giving me a chance, but I lose the hand as this, apparently, gave m opponent trips.

    I'm left looking down at a paltry 1,200 tournament chips, or six big-blinds.
  • mushroom1mushroom1 Member Posts: 645
    mushroom1 said:

    The Reload was short and bitter.

    I double bought-in and close to the break and, after adding-on, started the freezeout period with around 8,500 tournament chips.

    I am dealt Ace-King in (maybe) my third hand. There was a min-raise UTG which was called by UTG+1 and the button.

    I am in the small blind.

    The raise is 360 total. It's quite a tricky spot, for me. I could make it 1,000-1,500, but then I am playing the hand out of position, obviously. If raising to 1,000-1,5000, I would call a re-shove due to the structure.

    Therefore, I decide to shove. Thoughts on this are welcomed - FYI I hold 40-odd big-blinds.

    I am snapped by the original raiser, who had Aces.

    I flop an Ace, giving me a chance, but I lose the hand as this, apparently, gave m opponent trips.

    I'm left looking down at a paltry 1,200 tournament chips, or six big-blinds.

    Exciting update:
    I have managed to spin straw into copper, with my 1,200 rising to 5,900.

    It's still, very much, a bowl of rice but, at least, it's now Special Fried.
  • mushroom1mushroom1 Member Posts: 645
    A change of level means I now have less than 10 big-blinds.

    My first hand of the level is 93o. In the big blind. Two all-ins before I act.

    Before my blind reaches the winner's stack, I am moved to another table and straight into the big blind. This time I am dealt 82o.

    Things appear to be getting worse.

    The BB comes and go and there are no shoving opportunities in the hands that follow. The big blind is back to me again. I am dealt 72o.

    Things ARE getting worse.

    The break brings some respite. I have less than six-bigs. I am 99/110, meaning there are eleven poor souls even worse off than I.


  • pstoneypstoney Member Posts: 327
    you know you grind 3 hours to ru in to this nonsense
  • pstoneypstoney Member Posts: 327
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    scottoxoSit out
    pstoneyBig blind5000.005000.0088156.25
    Your hole cards
    • K
    • A
    Marc_5Raise10000.0015000.0066565.00
    alandutchFold
    FroozleFold
    pstoneyAll-in88156.25103156.250.00
    Marc_5All-in66565.00169721.250.00
    pstoneyUnmatched bet16591.25153130.0016591.25
    pstoneyShow
    • K
    • A
    Marc_5Show
    • 9
    • 10
    Flop
    • 8
    • 8
    • 5
    Turn
    • 7
    River
    • 10
    Marc_5WinFlush to the 10153130.00153130.00
  • mushroom1mushroom1 Member Posts: 645
    What an eventful 40 minutes.

    Despite what may (or may not) have been a Masterclass in micro-stack management, where I dodged, ducked, dipped, dived and dodged, my tenacious run came to an end in 31st place, just five short of the money.

    I was toying with the idea of a hand-by-hand report, as there were many interesting spots, but it would probably be a too long to make interesting reading.

    Before I get back to the King George, I apologise for the drop in quality of my entries over the past month or two. My downbeat mood had nothing to do with financial loss in this time, I simply was not enjoying the time I spent playing.

    I felt powerless to an overwhelming sense of dread the moment I logged on, so naturally, this had an impact on the thread.

    Hopefully, I am fully back to making good decisions and enjoying the game.
  • mushroom1mushroom1 Member Posts: 645
    pstoney said:

    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    scottoxoSit out
    pstoneyBig blind5000.005000.0088156.25
    Your hole cards
    • K
    • A
    Marc_5Raise10000.0015000.0066565.00
    alandutchFold
    FroozleFold
    pstoneyAll-in88156.25103156.250.00
    Marc_5All-in66565.00169721.250.00
    pstoneyUnmatched bet16591.25153130.0016591.25
    pstoneyShow
    • K
    • A
    Marc_5Show
    • 9
    • 10
    Flop
    • 8
    • 8
    • 5
    Turn
    • 7
    River
    • 10
    Marc_5WinFlush to the 10153130.00153130.00
    Vile.
  • mushroom1mushroom1 Member Posts: 645
    I'm saying nuffin...
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    Baboon26Small blind150.00150.006352.00
    MattBatesBig blind300.00450.0016190.00
    Your hole cards
    • 8
    • 8
    welpFold
    sillymidFold
    johnsonb30Fold
    mushroom1All-in5440.005890.000.00
    Baboon26Fold
    MattBatesCall5140.0011030.0011050.00
    MattBatesShow
    • 5
    • 5
    mushroom1Show
    • 8
    • 8
    Flop
    • 7
    • 3
    • 2
    Turn
    • Q
    River
    • 5
    MattBatesWinThree 5s11030.0022080.00
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