taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary

MP33

Thats the last time i come and wish u good luck while trying to play 4 tables

Plyed over 2 -3 hours - Lost 1-2 buyins early - flips - Then picked up nuts in 3 way pot with set of kings nd they actually had full stacks - Was saying GL to Don on other table and got timed out - The biggest pot in 2 hours -

But what u gonnna do - Actually picked up well after that and had  bit of a mad period with some good hands and found myself accidentally on a NL8 table as there is s a guy a like playin who ws on my NL4

Managed to dbl up through him and get a bit more

BR  £150       1450 pts
BR £214.07   1873pts 


Nice run Don -  saw you win a cpl of buyins

MP33

I had 2 losing hands over £2

These - just stupid - could have got away from this with minimum damage. At worst should hve saved the 1.75 or 1,85

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
catmanlind	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£3.62
MP33	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£3.50
	Your hole cards	9 9
walesboy	Fold
bomag1	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£2.44
catmanlind	Call		£0.02	£0.12	£3.60
MP33	Raise		£0.12	£0.24	£3.38
bomag1	Call		£0.12	£0.36	£2.32
catmanlind	Call		£0.12	£0.48	£3.48
Flop
		3 2 7
catmanlind	Check
MP33	Bet		£0.36	£0.84	£3.02
bomag1	Call		£0.36	£1.20	£1.96
catmanlind	Call		£0.36	£1.56	£3.12
Turn
		5
catmanlind	Check
MP33	Bet		£1.17	£2.73	£1.85
bomag1	Call		£1.17	£3.90	£0.79
catmanlind	All-in		£3.12	£7.02	£0.00
MP33	All-in		£1.85	£8.87	£0.00
bomag1	All-in		£0.79	£9.66	£0.00
catmanlind	Unmatched bet		£0.10	£9.56	£0.10
catmanlind	Show	4 6
MP33	Show	9 9
bomag1	Show	J J
River
		2
catmanlind	Win	Straight to the 7	£8.84		£8.94

MP33

I don,t regret this although it looks bad . he was tilting . I was winning money off him just calling into him

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
NColley	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£11.24
MP33	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£15.94
	Your hole cards	7 Q
Nanamve	Raise		£0.16	£0.28	£8.69
NColley	Fold
MP33	Call		£0.08	£0.36	£15.86
Flop
		3 Q A
MP33	Check
Nanamve	Bet		£0.27	£0.63	£8.42
MP33	Raise		£0.54	£1.17	£15.32
Nanamve	Call		£0.27	£1.44	£8.15
Turn
		J
MP33	Check
tilter	Check
River
		2
MP33	Check
tilter	Bet		£1.44	£2.88	£6.71
MP33	Call		£1.44	£4.32	£13.88
tilter	Show	10 K
MP33	Muck	7 Q
tilter	Win	Straight to the Ace	£3.99		£10.70

MP33

SOME WINNING HANDS

This was aginst the tilter lthough he had settled down a bit
 

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
MP33	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£14.14
xxxxx	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£7.54
	Your hole cards	Q Q
NColley	Fold
bankster1	Fold
MP33	Raise		£0.20	£0.32	£13.94
xxxx	Raise		£0.80	£1.12	£6.74
MP33	Raise		£1.92	£3.04	£12.02
xxxx	All-in		£6.74	£9.78	£0.00
MP33	Call		£5.46	£15.24	£6.56
MP33	Show	Q Q
	Show	A K
Flop
		10 6 6
Turn
		5
River
		2
MP33	Win	Two Pairs, Queens and 6s	£14.09		£20.65

MP33

I,m only 60% but would have not been to happy if i,d lost this one and this wasn,t gainst the tilter on the table

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
MP33	Big blind		£0.08	£0.08	£7.92
	Your hole cards	A K
xxxxxxxx	Fold
NColley	Raise		£0.24	£0.32	£11.60
xxxxx	All-in		£6.67	£6.99	£0.00
MP33	All-in		£7.92	£14.91	£0.00
NColley	Fold
MP33	Unmatched bet		£1.33	£13.58	£1.33
MP33	Show	A K
xxxxx	Show	4 9
Flop
		A 8 7
Turn
		2
River
		J
MP33	Win	Pair of Aces	£12.56		£13.89

MP33

Last hand

not - so straightforwrad

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
pokerwin10	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£6.41
tubby28	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£6.84
	Your hole cards	A 9
xxxxx	Raise		£0.16	£0.28	£11.35
bankster1	Fold
MP33	Call		£0.16	£0.44	£20.22
pokerwin10	Call		£0.12	£0.56	£6.29
tubby28	Call		£0.08	£0.64	£6.76
Flop
		8 Q 3
pokerwin10	Check
tubby28	Check
xxxxx	Bet		£0.48	£1.12	£10.87
MP33	Call		£0.48	£1.60	£19.74
pokerwin10	Fold
tubby28	Fold
Turn
		2
xxxxx	Bet		£0.80	£2.40	£10.07
MP33	Raise		£1.60	£4.00	£18.14
xxxxx	Call		£0.80	£4.80	£9.27
River
		7
xxxxx	Check
MP33	Bet		£2.48	£7.28	£15.66
xxxxx	Fold
MP33	Show	A 9
MP33	Win		£4.44		£20.10
MP33	Return		£2.48	£0.36	£22.58

MP33

Sorry to Hijack your thread DON - U can have it back soon - just need to get to end of month

NColley

I have 4000 poker points this month, about 3000 is from nl 4/8/10. Probably averaged out at minimum 3 hours a day on 6 tables.

Dudeskin8

@ MP33, not sure on some of these hands mate.

99 pre in big blind, raise needs to be a LOT bigger here, at least 20p. Also I might just check in big blind and take free set mine.

Q7o calling minraise OOP is NOT good, you then minraise flop with 2nd pair no kicker what do you want to be called by? Luckily you slow down on turn river but then call off POT bet
 with 2nd pair no kicker, this is NOT good.

A9s not crazy about flatting minraise pre but I guess you're playing at 145 bb's deep with xxx so not awful. His flop bet at 75% imo is too much to call for flush draw as you're looking for half pot bets which give you better odds. Turn he bets just halfpot so you can probably just about flat this but why the **** would you minraise it's crazy. River he check folds to your bet, I'm utterly astonished he folded there and you were very spewy here imo.

DOHHHHHHH

Value bet the river with KQ Don.

Looking much better.

Finally getting some "MOMeNTUM" going, important that you focus now more than ever, and try and play as much as possible.

If you have a backward step now or tilt, or whatever, it will be hard to turn it round AGAIN and get it going the right way.

Your next session is an important 1 imo, need to keep it going.

gl.

Lambert180

Yeah, well done on your very profitable session but yeah you should definitely be valuebetting your KQ on the river. Nice to see you admitting you've been coolered when you hit TP with AQ and they've hit a set of 5s. Personally I don't like the 78s call in the first hand, higher levels (or against better players) yes but not here. You wanna be hitting big 2 pairs, big TPTKs, if you are hitting the flush, you want it to be the nut flush or close as (eg. KQs). But to be fair, it's VERY unlucky to flop a flush and find out someone else did the same but with higher cards lol.

Dudeskin8

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary:

Yeah, well done on your very profitable session but yeah you should definitely be valuebetting your KQ on the river. Nice to see you admitting you've been coolered when you hit TP with AQ and they've hit a set of 5s. Personally I don't like the 78s call in the first hand, higher levels (or against better players) yes but not here. You wanna be hitting big 2 pairs, big TPTKs, if you are hitting the flush, you want it to be the nut flush or close as (eg. KQs). But to be fair, it's VERY unlucky to flop a flush and find out someone else did the same but with higher cards lol.
Posted by Lambert180

You mentioned £250 somewhere, I hope you're not wasting your time on NL4/8 still, on NL10 immedietly imo.

Lambert180

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary:

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary : You mentioned £250 somewhere, I hope you're not wasting your time on NL4/8 still, on NL10 immedietly imo.
Posted by Dudeskin8

Well it was £250 lol. I moved up to 8NL when I got to £200, had a great session and got up to £250 but thought I should probably do a few more sessions of 8NL (seen as I'd only done about 2) before I move up to 10NL. I lost a couple of BIs last night at 8NL and I've registered for the DTD tonight so I'm down to about £225.

Maybe I'm being on the cautious side but I just wanted a couple more winning sessions of 8NL before I went to 10NL. Plus I don't like stepping up a level when my last session was a losing one.

The_Don90

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary:

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary : Well it was £250 lol. I moved up to 8NL when I got to £200, had a great session and got up to £250 but thought I should probably do a few more sessions of 8NL (seen as I'd only done about 2) before I move up to 10NL. I lost a couple of BIs last night at 8NL and I've registered for the DTD tonight so I'm down to about £225. Maybe I'm being on the cautious side but I just wanted a couple more winning sessions of 8NL before I went to 10NL. Plus I don't like stepping up a level when my last session was a losing one.
Posted by Lambert180

I know of one player that played a 100BI rule. Not sure how they get on now as ive not spoken to them for a long while.

Lambert180

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary:

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary : I know of one player that played a 100BI rule. Not sure how they get on now as ive not spoken to them for a long while.
Posted by The_Don90

Yeah I've read up alot about BRM, it's one part of my game that I take very seriously and I've heard many people say at least 50BIs which normally I think is fine and I would certainly stick to as I move up the levels. The only reason I'm being a bit less strict is because the number of fish at these levels mean that the losing sessions are much less often than you'd normally experience (less variance)

debdobs_67

The diff between nl8 and nl10 issssssssssssss fa m8 , just skip this level and get on nl10 and as for brm IF ure a decent player 20 buy-ins is adequate

Dudeskin8

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary:

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary : Well it was £250 lol. I moved up to 8NL when I got to £200, had a great session and got up to £250 but thought I should probably do a few more sessions of 8NL (seen as I'd only done about 2) before I move up to 10NL. I lost a couple of BIs last night at 8NL and I've registered for the DTD tonight so I'm down to about £225. Maybe I'm being on the cautious side but I just wanted a couple more winning sessions of 8NL before I went to 10NL. Plus I don't like stepping up a level when my last session was a losing one.
Posted by Lambert180

TBF £225 is still 22.5 BI's at NL10 and the way I'd look it is I have 2.5 BI's to burn if things go wrong, most the time you will find you do good (are up), to actually lose 2 BI's in a session at any level NL4-10 often means you've had a lot of run bad but overall you'll always win more than you lose playing the right way.

If you do play I would always do the start with 2 tables rule then add as you start to build a database on any new players.

The_Don90

Day Six

Got a small session in. Actually was on for 1 hr 35 mins, ended session early as i hadnt seen a flop in 45 mins and it just seemed the nits where out in force meaning i just couldnt get value. Was 3 tabling for the first time but due to lack of play bordom was setting in which would lead to mistakes i felt.

Will show what hands i did get in although two are posted in clinic wont re-post them.

Losing hands

1) Cooler, standard.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
chippan	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£3.90
jams88	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£6.20
	Your hole cards	Q Q
usoges24	Fold
greynolds	Fold
ELVIS	Raise		£0.16	£0.22	£1.07
The_Don90	Raise		£0.64	£0.86	£3.58
chippan	Fold
jams88	Fold
ELVIS	All-in		£1.07	£1.93	£0.00
The_Don90	Call		£0.59	£2.52	£2.99
ELVIS	Show	K K
The_Don90	Show	Q Q
Flop
		4 9 7
Turn
		4
River
		10
ELVIS	Win	Two Pairs, Kings and 4s	£2.33		£2.33

winning hands.

2) not sure if i should be c-betting here. felt shutting down afterwads was best.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
victor0928	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£2.66
The_Don90	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£3.96
	Your hole cards	Q Q
OhDancing1	Fold
rivers8711	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£3.30
IAMO	Call		£0.04	£0.14	£3.73
traceyl	Call		£0.04	£0.18	£4.54
victor0928	Call		£0.02	£0.20	£2.64
The_Don90	Raise		£0.36	£0.56	£3.60
rivers8711	Call		£0.36	£0.92	£2.94
IAMO	Fold
traceyl	Call		£0.36	£1.28	£4.18
victor0928	Fold
Flop
		K 5 7
The_Don90	Bet		£0.64	£1.92	£2.96
rivers8711	Fold
traceyl	Call		£0.64	£2.56	£3.54
Turn
		6
The_Don90	Check
traceyl	Check
River
		3
The_Don90	Check
traceyl	Check
The_Don90	Show	Q Q
traceyl	Muck	J 6
The_Don90	Win	Pair of Queens	£2.36		£5.32

3) Value on flop but turn and river get the board pretty wet so checking back seemed best?

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
IAMO	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£4.14
traceyl	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£3.28
	Your hole cards	J A
victor0928	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£2.32
The_Don90	Raise		£0.20	£0.30	£5.10
OhDancing1	Fold
rivers8711	Fold
IAMO	Fold
traceyl	Call		£0.16	£0.46	£3.12
victor0928	Fold
Flop
		Q J Q
traceyl	Check
The_Don90	Bet		£0.35	£0.81	£4.75
traceyl	Call		£0.35	£1.16	£2.77
Turn
		8
traceyl	Check
The_Don90	Check
River
		9
traceyl	Check
The_Don90	Check
traceyl	Show	7 A
The_Don90	Show	J A
The_Don90	Win	Two Pairs, Queens and Jacks	£1.07		£5.82

4) not sure on this hand at all good talking point i think

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
victor0928	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£1.89
The_Don90	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£7.27
chill81723	Big blind		£0.04	£0.10	£2.96
	Your hole cards	10 A
OhDancing1	Fold
rivers8711	Call		£0.04	£0.14	£2.45
chill81723	Check
traceyl	Call		£0.04	£0.18	£0.85
victor0928	Call		£0.02	£0.20	£1.87
The_Don90	Check
Flop
		A 5 7
victor0928	Check
The_Don90	Bet		£0.32	£0.52	£6.95
rivers8711	Call		£0.32	£0.84	£2.13
chill81723	Fold
traceyl	Fold
victor0928	Fold
Turn
		Q
The_Don90	Bet		£0.63	£1.47	£6.32
rivers8711	Call		£0.63	£2.10	£1.50
River
		3
The_Don90	Check
rivers8711	Check
The_Don90	Show	10 A
rivers8711	Muck	4 K
The_Don90	Win	Pair of Aces	£1.94		£8.26

6) feel i actually overplayed this hense the check back on the river

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
joybells14	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£0.87
teddy991	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£4.86
	Your hole cards	J 10
A00DGM	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£0.40
jackandjoe	Fold
Smiler01	Raise		£0.12	£0.22	£3.87
The_Don90	Call		£0.12	£0.34	£3.94
joybells14	Call		£0.10	£0.44	£0.77
teddy991	Fold
A00DGM	Fold
Flop
		10 4 9
joybells14	Check
Smiler01	Bet		£0.33	£0.77	£3.54
The_Don90	Call		£0.33	£1.10	£3.61
joybells14	Fold
Turn
		5
Smiler01	Bet		£0.83	£1.93	£2.71
The_Don90	Call		£0.83	£2.76	£2.78
River
		2
Smiler01	Check
The_Don90	Check
Smiler01	Show	6 7
The_Don90	Show	J 10
The_Don90	Win	Pair of 10s	£2.55		£5.33

Closing Balance: £62.35

Despite ending my session early i felt this went reasonably well. Just one hand with loss over 50p and again profit is made.

Dudeskin8

1. Cooler

2. Looks fine

3. Like it good stuff.

4. I raise pre to about 24p for value, then play it same way but with more wonga in da middle. As played I shove river.

5. I snap fold pre. As played I might fold flop and defo turn. Usually players who bet at this level (there aren't many) have a hand.

MP33

In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary:

I have 4000 poker points this month, about 3000 is from nl 4/8/10. Probably averaged out at minimum 3 hours a day on 6 tables.
Posted by NColley

How mny tables can youfit on your monitor Colley?