I don't. Want to leave or why would I have bothered posting the post I did but unless we can move forward now I will of course move the final roll out so I have already voted with my money but I want this site to work as I stated at the start. So what do we want no moans please just tell it as it Is in a constructive respectful way Posted by MRBURNS4
Ok the thread is getting a touch personal. So to get back on track, I agree MRBURNS most of us want to stay and get back on track.
Hursty says that he has seen new software so my suggestions:
1. SKY to 'come out' and say 'Yes there are issues, please bear with us as we are developing new software'
2. SKY customer care to not come out with the generic answer 'there are no problems here it must be with your computer or ISP'
3. SKY customer care to have a dedicated Poker department that understand the game and issues
In Response to Re: After over 4 years on Sky having to leave the site for 90% of my play : Your arrogance is unbelievable................. You still have not explained how you think I am challenged either, but I will save you the long winded response. Your failed attempt at humour related to a completely different thread that was part of a year long CHALLENGE that us minnows took time out of our sad lives to do. If you would take the time out to read the said challenge, you would also notice that around 100 minnows took part in a game tonight to celebrate the challenge being achieved. Yes, you have a point, but that doesn't mean others don't. And fyi I don't skip along, I stand by my post that your initial contribution was ill thought out and stupid. Posted by kaymac
WHAT ARE YOU ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT!?
1) never called you challenged, that was a lighthearted comment about the guy who made the thread 'Sort it our sky!!!!!' so wind your neck in.
2) I have zero clue what year long challenge your talking about, my comment about people with sad lives is based soley about this thread. so again, wind your neck in.
3) Quite funny, im certain in my last post to you and to another. I actually said 'you all have points'. gees you have a long neck.
4) My comments are perfectly justifiyable, if people decide to comment about skys problems in an arrogant way then they can expect the same from me, i know alot of people agree with me, and have told me they do. but obv they dont wanna get into agruments so most likely wont post to say so.
you have nothing constructive to say, hence your closing statement. This means you obviously dont have anything else to say so BUUUUUH-BYYYYYYYYE
hurst is sticking up for sky any 1 would think hes a rag making lots of money from the site Posted by IDONKCALLU
haha have people say that its fixed for me all the time. fwiw i had the worst month since ive been playing last month so my comments even come off the back of being screwed by the RNG
In Response to Re: After over 4 years on Sky having to leave the site for 90% of my play : pretty sure i have the right to comment on this forum. No, i dont spend my weekend nights moaning on a forum Posted by hurst05
No, you spend your weekend night arguing on a forum instead... )
In Response to Re: After over 4 years on Sky having to leave the site for 90% of my play : No, you spend your weekend night arguing on a forum instead... ) Posted by EvilPingu
hardly lol. rarely ever post here anymore. most people arent worth the time if im honest. uhoh, gonna get called bad things now. poor me.
fwiw keep up the good work on the diary. interesting reads. gl
Mrburns started this thread not as a rant thread but in the hope that the communication issues that the player outlined might in some way be resolved.
We are all aware that the site has technical problems with regard to connections however this is never going to be acknowledged by Sky as there will be people who will then try & abuse this by blaming the site for problems at their own end.
With regards to site upgrades & introducing new features this might not go without gliches, but in fairness to Sky Poker the issue of "Ghost players" when late registration was introduced was handled in my opinion excellently with acknowledgement that there may be an issue & as a result the feedback from players was constructive and hopefully helped in identifying the problem.
Sky are perfectly entitled to change the product that they offer to clients ie. the removal of 30p Dym's. However players are surely entitled to be told in advance that things like League points will be discontinued at the end of the month as this may have some bearing on certain players monthly targets. True it may well be replaced with something bigger & better at a future date, but sometimes a little bit of advance communication goes a long way.
I personally have only been a player on Sky poker for a short time, but I have to be truthful and say that if it hadnt been for the wonderful player base, the forum & its team spirit along with Channel 861 I wouldnt have chosen Sky as the place I would wish to be playing poker on.
I am sure that from their side of the fence Sky poker are doing everything they can to address the software, site issues that exist, however in the first instance it is the communication issues that need to be addressed as a priority. An individuals opinion will carry no weight , but if this thread is kept constructive it may well be benficial to the future development of a poker site that has enormous potential.
Please can we keep the comments about how we can move forward. This may be a very good chance to move forward between the players and sky the problem is in my view people are getting so frustrated with this terrible communication problem sky have with us. I don't. Want to leave or why would I have bothered posting the post I did but unless we can move forward now I will of course move the final roll out so I have already voted with my money but I want this site to work as I stated at the start. So what do we want no moans please just tell it as it Is in a constructive respectful way and sky stop being over sensitive Posted by MRBURNS4
In Response to Re: After over 4 years on Sky having to leave the site for 90% of my play : pretty sure i have the right to comment on this forum. No, i dont spend my weekend nights moaning on a forum Posted by hurst05
Of course you have the right to comment/respond on this or any other forum. But when you start accusing other people of having `sick lives` for expressing their own personal opinions, that is where your credibility & argument falls down.
In Response to Re: After over 4 years on Sky having to leave the site for 90% of my play : Your arrogance is unbelievable................. You still have not explained how you think I am challenged either, but I will save you the long winded response. Your failed attempt at humour related to a completely different thread that was part of a year long CHALLENGE that us minnows took time out of our sad lives to do. If you would take the time out to read the said challenge, you would also notice that around 100 minnows took part in a game tonight to celebrate the challenge being achieved. Yes, you have a point, but that doesn't mean others don't. And fyi I don't skip along, I stand by my post that your initial contribution was ill thought out and stupid. Posted by kaymac
I was disappointed with your comments implying we didn't experience problems and were moaning for the sake of it. I know for a fact that at least one person did experience technical problems he did not receive an apology nor a refund. Judging by the frequency of posts he was not alone and I know he's paid to have an independent expert examine his set up. the inspection was carried out and passed with flying colours. He didn't ask for any compensation but wanted to ensure the problem never happened again! His anger was at being treated as guilty before proven innocent. You are a lucky man to be so talented at the game. I'm sure you are a decent bloke and your opinions are as valid as anyone elses but it would be appreciated by me if you didn't judge my life by your experiences. I don't think you're arrogant just naive
In Response to Re: After over 4 years on Sky having to leave the site for 90% of my play : lol i agree with most points you all have to say. But you get nowhere when you post gung ho on forums slating it. Posted by hurst05
so if like me you have two emails ignored (both over a week ago) and arent getting anywere with live chat
In Response to Re: After over 4 years on Sky having to leave the site for 90% of my play : WHAT ARE YOU ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT!? 1) never called you challenged, that was a lighthearted comment about the guy who made the thread 'Sort it our sky!!!!!' so wind your neck in. 2) I have zero clue what year long challenge your talking about, my comment about people with sad lives is based soley about this thread. so again, wind your neck in. 3) Quite funny, im certain in my last post to you and to another. I actually said 'you all have points'. gees you have a long neck. 4) My comments are perfectly justifiyable, if people decide to comment about skys problems in an arrogant way then they can expect the same from me, i know alot of people agree with me, and have told me they do. but obv they dont wanna get into agruments so most likely wont post to say so. you have nothing constructive to say, hence your closing statement. This means you obviously dont have anything else to say so BUUUUUH-BYYYYYYYYE Posted by hurst05
Hursty
I neither know you or have spoken to you in the past. I have tried to be sensible regarding all my posts in this and other threads. I also think that despite everything that goes wrong, SKY is a pretty good dite to play poker on. Obviously, I do not play at the nosebleed levels you play at, but hey ho, I work and pay tax.
This thread was started by the Op and had some very good points. Some will agree, some wont, but thats the way of the world that we live in.
You say you do not know what I am talking about. May I suggest you look back at everything you have posted to me and others in this thread and then you might comprehend. My main point was to disagree with you about the need for people to post in threads like this. I suggested that business needs feedback, good or bad. You may agree, you may not, that is neither here nor there.
I can assure you my neck is not very large, and neither does it need winding in, but perhaps, and this is just a perhaps, if some of the larger b/r players on this site would take time to read what the little guys are doing, you may understand more. It's not that long ago, you were asking this very forum for advice, yet these are the same people you are berating for still playing on a site they are unhappy with.
My conctructive point was regarding the need for feedback, maybe you missed it, but never mind, one day maybe you will understand about business, because without customers, you do not have one!!
My apologies to the OP for derailing a very good thread, but sometimes this is necessary
Well, first posts well-constucted & looking to be positive, by it seems, opening some discussions about problems, which seems are defo there!!
'PR Chance', I spoke about seems to have been missed again, giving the oppurtunity to de-rail this interesting debate!!
Shame that some comments, probably not worded entirley correctly, and again, arguments ensued!!
Hursty, you are great lad, and i offer you the chance to take one of my Hitsquad Diplomacy Courses, look what they did for emilyegg & Delta, LOL!!
DJ, i'd offer you a spot, but you i dont think even i canna help!! lol
obviously just injecting a bit of fun, so please all take NO Offence, FFS,.... or HitPup will make you an offer you canna refuse!!
NOW PLEASE ALL!! Back to Mr Burns & OP Debate, also i suggest as it's sunday nite, it may be difficult for sky to communicate in full or with authority...maybe...???
also i am not a 'forum copper' or a Mod.....I AM A ROCKER, OK!!! [hursty Knows]
Good housekeeping is important if you are going to stay connected. The ways to keep a clean machine have been posted many times so I won't bore you all with them all.
If your connection problems seem to happen at the same time each day, check if you have a security scan taking place at that time. If you have re-schedule it for a time when you are not playing.
Take a broadband speed test - it's free and will show you how you compare to your neighbours and what IP they are using. Not all IP's are equal.
If after all that you still have problems - join the club - so do I. (just occassionally)
I understand people have had problems and bad experiences with customer care, but people dont need to air their aggrevences in such a harsh way. a calm collected query on the forum is fine. none of the 'SORT THIS OUT SKY STUFF' etc.
Just want to say my comment about peoples 'sad lives' was completely in jest. people truly need to stop being pedantic. i like to incorporate light hearted humour in my posts so please take it in its intended way.
In reply to BUGALOO:
Duno how many more times youd like me to say 'People have a right to post on the forum with aggrevances' but do it in an adult manner. Lifes too short for heated abuse on forums (Even if you yourself havent done, my point remains to all)
In reply to KAYMAC:
I read this forum regular, just rarely post. i know alot about whats going on in peopls poker games. And through the fact i read this forum is why i bothered to reply. because people step way out of line when it comes to sorting out their problems. Ive said numerous times i agree with alot of points the OP made, but you and others continue to fail to recognise this. But im able to see the argument from both ends. My comment about why people still play here is aimed at those who week after week still moan, 'oh its fixed' etc.
Your last paragraph isnt just one way traffic though, yes you need customers with feedback, but you also need said customers and feedback that is discussed as adults. not in childish one sentence posts.
I think Hursty has had a few tonight, if not your light hearted remark about peoples lives is sick itself and doesn't say much about your respect of other players.
This thread is ridiculous it isn't going anywhere Mr Burns I personally don't think you should go as this site is coming on leaps and bounds it's just hit a glitch which they will soon take responsibilty for. (Or blame it on sporney)
I wish you all gl on the felt and hope that this comes to an end before more pointless online arguments break out, as it's completely pointless and falling on deaf ears.
There has been, perhaps with good reason, some adverse comment about the thread being closed, then re-opened.
For the most part, you are decent people, & so are we. Good reasoned debate is absolutely fine, always was, always will be.
However, personal attacks & mud-slinging is not reasoned debate, & if it continues, the thread will have to be closed again. That would detract from the OP, but perhaps that is what some wish.
Can we just conduct the debate in a reasonable manner, please?
FIRSTLY this post is ROFLMAO material of the highest standard
Please stop arguing we need to proceed to the life boats. Posted by logdon
SECONDLY kaymac and hurst need to call it a day on this pointless forum dissagreement or take it to Pms stop dragging the thread down
THIRDLY - Having temp left SKY a few months back on break from poker when it was seriously booming, smashing guarantees, heaps on new players etc etc, I sit here, head in my hands despairing at whats happened to this place, sad indeed.
FINALLY - The community needs to stick together but a revolution style stance may not be the best strategy, SKY seems the sort to not listen to threats/friendly warnings etc, in fact in the face of any disrespect they seem they could live up the like of recent toppled dictators, half expect to come back tomorrow and see Kofi Annan posting to resolve the issue
Its our version of the arab spring = THE SKY SUMMER
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I know for a fact that at least one person did experience technical problems he did not receive an apology nor a refund.
Judging by the frequency of posts he was not alone and I know he's paid to have an independent expert examine his set up. the inspection was carried out and passed with flying colours.
He didn't ask for any compensation but wanted to ensure the problem never happened again!
His anger was at being treated as guilty before proven innocent.
You are a lucky man to be so talented at the game. I'm sure you are a decent bloke and your opinions are as valid as anyone elses but it would be appreciated by me if you didn't judge my life by your experiences.
I don't think you're arrogant just naive
I neither know you or have spoken to you in the past. I have tried to be sensible regarding all my posts in this and other threads. I also think that despite everything that goes wrong, SKY is a pretty good dite to play poker on. Obviously, I do not play at the nosebleed levels you play at, but hey ho, I work and pay tax.
This thread was started by the Op and had some very good points. Some will agree, some wont, but thats the way of the world that we live in.
You say you do not know what I am talking about. May I suggest you look back at everything you have posted to me and others in this thread and then you might comprehend. My main point was to disagree with you about the need for people to post in threads like this. I suggested that business needs feedback, good or bad. You may agree, you may not, that is neither here nor there.
I can assure you my neck is not very large, and neither does it need winding in, but perhaps, and this is just a perhaps, if some of the larger b/r players on this site would take time to read what the little guys are doing, you may understand more. It's not that long ago, you were asking this very forum for advice, yet these are the same people you are berating for still playing on a site they are unhappy with.
My conctructive point was regarding the need for feedback, maybe you missed it, but never mind, one day maybe you will understand about business, because without customers, you do not have one!!
Well, first posts well-constucted & looking to be positive, by it seems, opening some discussions about problems, which seems are defo there!!
'PR Chance', I spoke about seems to have been missed again, giving the oppurtunity to de-rail this interesting debate!!
Shame that some comments, probably not worded entirley correctly, and again, arguments ensued!!
Hursty, you are great lad, and i offer you the chance to take one of my Hitsquad Diplomacy Courses, look what they did for emilyegg & Delta, LOL!!
DJ, i'd offer you a spot, but you i dont think even i canna help!! lol
obviously just injecting a bit of fun, so please all take NO Offence, FFS,.... or HitPup will make you an offer you canna refuse!!
NOW PLEASE ALL!! Back to Mr Burns & OP Debate, also i suggest as it's sunday nite, it may be difficult for sky to communicate in full or with authority...maybe...???
also i am not a 'forum copper' or a Mod.....I AM A ROCKER, OK!!! [hursty Knows]
Now Have fun & Play Nice!!
X
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If your connection problems seem to happen at the same time each day, check if you have a security scan taking place at that time. If you have re-schedule it for a time when you are not playing.
Take a broadband speed test - it's free and will show you how you compare to your neighbours and what IP they are using. Not all IP's are equal.
If after all that you still have problems - join the club - so do I. (just occassionally)
This thread is ridiculous it isn't going anywhere Mr Burns I personally don't think you should go as this site is coming on leaps and bounds it's just hit a glitch which they will soon take responsibilty for. (Or blame it on sporney)
I wish you all gl on the felt and hope that this comes to an end before more pointless online arguments break out, as it's completely pointless and falling on deaf ears.
Regards
Kalie x
Good afternoon gentlemen.
There has been, perhaps with good reason, some adverse comment about the thread being closed, then re-opened.
For the most part, you are decent people, & so are we. Good reasoned debate is absolutely fine, always was, always will be.
However, personal attacks & mud-slinging is not reasoned debate, & if it continues, the thread will have to be closed again. That would detract from the OP, but perhaps that is what some wish.
Can we just conduct the debate in a reasonable manner, please?
Thanks.
THIRDLY - Having temp left SKY a few months back on break from poker when it was seriously booming, smashing guarantees, heaps on new players etc etc, I sit here, head in my hands despairing at whats happened to this place, sad indeed.
FINALLY - The community needs to stick together but a revolution style stance may not be the best strategy, SKY seems the sort to not listen to threats/friendly warnings etc, in fact in the face of any disrespect they seem they could live up the like of recent toppled dictators, half expect to come back tomorrow and see Kofi Annan posting to resolve the issue
Its our version of the arab spring = THE SKY SUMMER