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  • rainman215rainman215 Member Posts: 1,186
    HAYSIE said:

    Another stupid comment . Why would you make the assumption that all of the 34 million who voted were necessarily informed ?
    I am not. The point I am making is that 34 million people to their voting responsibility seriously.

    If you believe that, why have a 2nd vote.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 38,924
    HAYSIE said:

    Another stupid comment . Why would you make the assumption that all of the 34 million who voted were necessarily informed ?
    I am not. The point I am making is that 34 million people to their voting responsibility seriously.

    Do you now feel confident that you would vote if there was a second referendum?
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 38,924

    So do you think that the 34 million people that voted, informed themselves, attended Brexit classes, or were just cleverer than you.
    Another stupid comment . Why would you make the assumption that all of the 34 million who voted were necessarily informed ?

    What do you think made them more equipped to vote than you?
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 38,924

    Who said I agree with any of it ..it is merely another viewpoint from someone else to give this thread balance . What do you not understand about that ?
    Why do you think that posting views that you clearly have no opinion of, and don't understand furthers this debate in any way.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 38,924

    What do you think ?
    I think it is a biased view that does not present a number of his arguments fairly.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 38,924

    I am not. The point I am making is that 34 million people to their voting responsibility seriously.
    If you believe that, why have a 2nd vote.

    I am not sure why you think these two things are at all related.
  • dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793
    edited December 2018
    HAYSIE said:

    Another stupid comment . Why would you make the assumption that all of the 34 million who voted were necessarily informed ?
    I am not. The point I am making is that 34 million people took their voting responsibility seriously.
    HAYSIE said:

    Why do you think that posting views that you clearly have no opinion of, and don't understand furthers this debate in any way.
    Debate ? :D Since when was this a debate ?
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 38,924
    HAYSIE said:

    I think it is a biased view that does not present a number of his arguments fairly.
    What do you think?
  • dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793
    edited December 2018
    Breaking news : The genius and self proclaimed Brexit expert, Haysie , believes that
    everyone had a responsibility to vote in the referendum , even if you weren't sure exactly what you were voting for . Radical or stupid ? I think most of us know the answer to that .

    I would say it is the politicians responsibility to present the true and accurate facts and all possible scenarios to the voting public .
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 38,924
    HAYSIE said:

    Mind numbingly stupid example . It was the responsibilty of politicians to present realistic scenarios and accurately represent consequences to the country pre vote . They failed to do that . If you are saying that wasn't possible , then the referendum should never have been offered up.
    Which is what I said in the first place, but once it was everyone had a responsibility to vote.

    Do you not think that people are more educated when they are 13 than they were when they were 11?
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 38,924

    I think this is a thread on Brexit, but if phil is haysie, i have no respect for anyone who says Parents of Child Rape victims, should feel partly responsible.
    How could Phil be me?
  • dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793
    HAYSIE said:

    How could Phil be me?
    Fair point , not even sure you know who you are . :D
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 38,924

    I am not. The point I am making is that 34 million people took their voting responsibility seriously.
    HAYSIE said:

    Why do you think that posting views that you clearly have no opinion of, and don't understand furthers this debate in any way.
    Debate ? :D Since when was this a debate ?

    I am keeping up my side of it.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 38,924

    Fair point , not even sure you know who you are . :D
    It was just another silly post that made no sense.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 38,924

    Breaking news : The genius and self proclaimed Brexit expert, Haysie , believes that
    everyone had a responsibility to vote in the referendum , even if you weren't sure exactly what you were voting for . Radical or stupid ? I think most of us know the answer to that .

    I would say it is the politicians responsibility to present the true and accurate facts and all possible scenarios to the voting public .

    I think you are just trying to justify your own position.
    I think your view of politicians is very immature, and unrealistic.
    When do they ever do what you are suggesting?
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 38,924

    Breaking news : The genius and self proclaimed Brexit expert, Haysie , believes that
    everyone had a responsibility to vote in the referendum , even if you weren't sure exactly what you were voting for . Radical or stupid ? I think most of us know the answer to that .

    I would say it is the politicians responsibility to present the true and accurate facts and all possible scenarios to the voting public .

    I think it fairly obvious that the majority of the 34 million people that voted, did so in good faith, according to their views, and taking into account the information that was available at the time.
    Did any of your gang vote, or were they equally unimformed?
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 38,924
    HAYSIE said:

    I think you are just trying to justify your own position.
    I think your view of politicians is very immature, and unrealistic.
    When do they ever do what you are suggesting?
    Compared to you, my dog is a Brexit expert.
  • dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793
    HAYSIE said:

    I think you are just trying to justify your own position.
    I think your view of politicians is very immature, and unrealistic.
    When do they ever do what you are suggesting?
    Umm well obviously , just as you are with your views, however that doesn't make the point any less valid .
    Immature and unrealistic ? Unrealistic to expect politicians not to lie ,probably , but that says more about the state of politics in this country than it does about peoples expectations.Immature to expect people in a prominent position to tell the truth , really ?
    " when do they ever do as I'm suggesting ? " .. Obviously not enough , hence the general disenchantment with them and the generally poor turnout in elections and voting . Are you not capable of understanding that a percentage of non voters , will use that as a protest ? And before you ask another dumb question , I dont fit into that category , for reasons I've given you a million times .
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 38,924

    Umm well obviously , just as you are with your views, however that doesn't make the point any less valid .
    Immature and unrealistic ? Unrealistic to expect politicians not to lie ,probably , but that says more about the state of politics in this country than it does about peoples expectations.Immature to expect people in a prominent position to tell the truth , really ?


    Do you think they do then?


    " when do they ever do as I'm suggesting ? " .. Obviously not enough , hence the general disenchantment with them and the generally poor turnout in elections and voting . Are you not capable of understanding that a percentage of non voters , will use that as a protest ? And before you ask another dumb question , I dont fit into that category , for reasons I've given you a million times .

    The points you made to justify you actions weren't reasonable in my view, but I cant be bothered with this any more.

    You stick with your justification.

  • rainman215rainman215 Member Posts: 1,186
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    HAYSIE said:


    The points you made to justify you actions weren't reasonable in my view, but I cant be bothered with this any more.

    You stick with your justification.

    Excellent news, good work Dobie.
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