In Response to Re: Cash players... please resolve this argument for me: : oit nothing wrong with playing dyms lol! haha forum tilt... Posted by BlackFish3
hehe i never meant to suggest there was...... just a different mentality needed when playing dym's as opposed to cash
this thread proves why cash players own SnG/MTT players so hard, no matter what format they're playing Posted by scotty77
if cash players played DYM they would get seriously owned, you have made it crystal clear you cant get rid of ace jack lol
i suppose it depends what format you played at, just remember cash players you cant reload on a DYM so chuck those rag aces and suited connecters straight down the toilet
In Response to Re: Cash players... please resolve this argument for me: : if you are gonna be playing for £1k then obvs that is within your BRM so it would be just an easy call as if it were for £10. webby you are so wrong....look at some of the names who have posted call and then look at the games they play. these aren't guys who mess around on DYMs. Posted by scotty77
Big LOL, this is a call all day long if you dont your giving away sooo much equity in your poker lifetime just waiting for the nuts, even the nuts can loose/ AA would have lost to the K4 in that spot.
Get your money in
DYM is a P**** game, cash is the real poker, No pro plays DYM
In Response to Re: Cash players... please resolve this argument for me: : lol he sat out after this... i didnt play anymore poker for the rest of the night... i was glad it was me with the 60% chance of a big pot and no one else though. Im sure he wont be the only maniac i might so hopefully next time ill just take them out. The important thing is i learnt the sort of calling range i should have when playing against players that shove like 30%-40% of their range... its basically big aces... like A9s+ ATo+ and mid PP, i think it was like 77+ roughly. Posted by BlackFish3
In Response to Re: Cash players... please resolve this argument for me: : Big LOL, this is a call all day long if you dont your giving away sooo much equity in your poker lifetime just waiting for the nuts, even the nuts can loose/ AA would have lost to the K4 in that spot. Get your money in DYM is a P**** game, cash is the real poker, No pro plays DYM Posted by big_mick12
In Response to Re: Cash players... please resolve this argument for me: : if cash players played DYM they would get seriously owned, you have made it crystal clear you cant get rid of ace jack lol i suppose it depends what format you played at, just remember cash players you cant reload on a DYM so chuck those rag aces and suited connecters straight down the toilet Posted by webby234
yes a cash player will find it impossible to adapt to DYMs, the easiest form of poker to learn.
good grief..... can all those that say its a fold please back up their statement with some content..... I fear you are passing on terrible advice. To say you only have ace high... or you could be crushed is just plain silly. This is cash remember, not early position on a big MTT final table lol Posted by cottlad
I find it quite shocking when the top players on sky bother to respond to peoples questions and give them advice only to have that advice thrown back in their face. You have people here giving out free and valuable advice to people further lower down the poker learning curve and they are simply saying "no thanks you are not right". It is quite shocking.
This is is simply a call. It is a matter of fact. It is not correct to fold. Folding is EV- in the long term. It is mathematically correct to call in the long term. You are wrong and need to learn. Is that simple enough?
Sorry, this guy has sucked out on you every time you called already...does it matter what his hand is? Unless you have a high pair against him or your money is in first it is an easy fold for me...I'll leave with my 200 BB intact and tiltless thankyou!
Viva la bank roll
And just for Cotty...FOLD, FOLD, FOLD, FOLD, FOLD, FOLD...lol
I find it quite shocking when the top players on sky bother to respond to peoples questions and give them advice only to have that advice thrown back in their face. You have people here giving out free and valuable advice to people further lower down the poker learning curve and they are simply saying "no thanks you are not right". It is quite shocking. This is is simply a call. It is a matter of fact. It is not correct to fold. Folding is EV- in the long term. It is mathematically correct to call in the long term. You are wrong and need to learn. Is that simple enough? Posted by BrownnDog
spot on BD. not often you see so many of the higher stakes regs all in one thread and all agreeing too.
but meh 5.50DYMs players >>>>>>>>>>> 100nl/200nl players who do so for a living.
In Response to Re: Cash players... please resolve this argument for me: : spot on BD. not often you see so many of the higher stakes regs all in one thread and all agreeing too. but meh 5.50DYMs players /> /> /> />>>>>>>> 100nl/200nl players who do so for a living. Posted by scotty77
A difference of OPINION makes the world a more interesting place...as i said WITH MY MONEY i fold...not advice, just my opinion...
Good to see the cash rich TP's agreeing against the minnows though but I'm with Webby on this one!! might be -ev in the long term but in this instance with these circumstances and this player (all apparent considerations over and above the cards) I'll keep my 200bb for a better spot!
just cos they play higher stakes does not make their opinion any better than anybody else's stop licking azz just cos they play 100/200 nl, some proper donks play those stakes as well you know!!!!
you can say its a call all day if you want guys but IMO it is a 100% fold till i lay dead on my deathbed!!!
browndog you may have more money and play higher stakes but that doesnt give you the right to think you are better than the rest of us.
scotty what as it got to do with what stakes you play at?
You will have to forgive me. I have read and re-read my post several times and have failed to find the part where I apparently state that "I think I am better than the rest of you". I am not arrogant or egotistical. I am simply stating that what you are saying is theoretically, mathematically and fundamentally flawed. If you are going to simply disregard every piece of advise that you are given during your poker career and without backing up your own assertions then you will simply never improve as poker player. I used to say some thing that I would now consider pretty dumb in online poker forums, but I read the replies, took the advice on board and improved my game. I suggest you consider doing the same.
OK this is my final post on this subject...... it's just for Webby...... I don't know how to simplify it more......
You have £1000 you use for poker/gambling One day yr walking past the greengrocers and he shouts you over Lined up on a table he has 6 red and 4 green apples and 10 buckets He says you can have 100 goes at picking one of the 6 red apples from underneath a bucket for £5 per go and for each correct guess he will give you another £5. You think for a while and do the maths.......
100 x £5 = £500 cost You will guess correctly on average 6 times out of 10 or 60 times out of 100. Your expectation is therefore 60 x £10 minus yr stake = £100 profit.
Do you accept the greengrocers offer?
Oh and just as an addition....... our expectation in the hand in question is greater than 6/10 for every go.....
OK this is my final post on this subject...... it's just for Webby...... I don't know how to simplify it more...... You have £1000 you use for poker/gambling One day yr walking past the greengrocers and he shouts you over Lined up on a table he has 6 red and 4 green apples and 10 buckets He says you can have 100 goes at picking one of the 6 red apples from underneath a bucket for £5 per go and for each correct guess he will give you another £5. You think for a while and do the maths....... 100 x £5 = £500 cost You will guess correctly on average 6 times out of 10 or 60 times out of 100. Your expectation is therefore 60 x £10 minus yr stake = £100 profit. Do you accept the greengrocers offer? Oh and just as an addition....... our expectation in the hand in question is greater than 6/10 for every go..... Your move? Posted by cottlad
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i suppose it depends what format you played at, just remember cash players you cant reload on a DYM so chuck those rag aces and suited connecters straight down the toilet
Viva la bank roll
And just for Cotty...FOLD, FOLD, FOLD, FOLD, FOLD, FOLD...lol
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Good to see the cash rich TP's agreeing against the minnows though but I'm with Webby on this one!! might be -ev in the long term but in this instance with these circumstances and this player (all apparent considerations over and above the cards) I'll keep my 200bb for a better spot!
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you can say its a call all day if you want guys but IMO it is a 100% fold till i lay dead on my deathbed!!!
browndog you may have more money and play higher stakes but that doesnt give you the right to think you are better than the rest of us.
scotty what as it got to do with what stakes you play at?
You have £1000 you use for poker/gambling
One day yr walking past the greengrocers and he shouts you over
Lined up on a table he has 6 red and 4 green apples and 10 buckets
He says you can have 100 goes at picking one of the 6 red apples from underneath a bucket for £5 per go and for each correct guess he will give you another £5.
You think for a while and do the maths.......
100 x £5 = £500 cost
You will guess correctly on average 6 times out of 10 or 60 times out of 100.
Your expectation is therefore 60 x £10 minus yr stake = £100 profit.
Do you accept the greengrocers offer?
Oh and just as an addition....... our expectation in the hand in question is greater than 6/10 for every go.....
Your move?
im not a fan.