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    misterpjmisterpj Member Posts: 3,204
    Ladies gents, and all.
    At least a year ago, if not longer, on the poker forum (where regarded numpty number 1)
    I said, don't, do not bet in running, where and why, you are a million, because it's no level playing field, specifically mentioning PLUMPTON Monday meetings, and the in running Drone toutches

    Today's Gaurdian
    Still, today, a chunk of punters that dabble in running, zero idea on the latency (delay)
    Over 16 years ago + when a close pal in the bookmaking industry and myself worked out an angle for ourselves, it was this.
    Because, for a continuous 6 year period, every day, was hours and hours, pricing up graded racing dog markets, then hours and hours watching graded dog racing and in essence, the 5 minutes of any graded race market pre off
    I quickly worked out, it only involved one particular track, in the south, cottoned onto it rapid, as I practically knew the dogs and form and tissue prices with my eyes shut.

    Noticed, on certain races at this track, I was suddenly getting price matched, at this one particular price, which was 15 (14-1) this was in those days, when the exchange bet matching mechanism (algorythms) were way way different, auto matched top price! very handy at the time
    You could have, a solid 4-1 shot, sitting there all day, on the back side unmatched, which got filled in about a second pre suspend pre off, the 'layer the other side' was ahead of even the exchange suspend (latency) so blinking real.

    But,he,she they, not cute enough, even with that advantage, to only concentrate on dogs that had too lead, you know the coup, trap1 only early paced dog in a field of slow boats, solid 6-4 shot, if it goes around in front, it's 4-6, if it misses it and gets led, it's a 64-1 shot!

    This firm, only for a couple months, we're able to lay dogs, that missed the break.
    So, what my pal and I did, was specifically try to find, habitual break missers, habitual slow starters, some dogs because of their run style, last away can be good! a strong staying slow starting strong finishing bang railer, or the same in stripes. Think Scourlogue Champ, but graded.
    Found two particular very strong dogs, with the run modus operandi required.
    And got the lot, twice each dog, for plenty at 15 (14-1) twice each, always a way 😉

    One of my best best doggy anecdotes
    Graded dog GIZZAJOB a grader at Romford
    trained by Mr Allsop, who lived Grove Park SE9 I resided up the road
    his brother Keith (phenomenal snooker player, punter and bang tight mate)
    GIZZAJOB, the middle distance Romford grader, wins the greyhound St Ledger at Wembley oh yes Gizza did, I was there with Keith and family screaming the place down.
    John Power delighted to pay us out
    GIZZAJOB won the St Leger at 33-1 sp. Skinner for the track bookies
    We had some of the best nights, on the flapping tracks with Gizza any race 700m + Oye Oye 😉

    I got distracted, from today's Gaurdian Drone Wars

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    misterpjmisterpj Member Posts: 3,204
    doesn't time fly
    37 years ago, feels like yesterday!

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    misterpjmisterpj Member Posts: 3,204
    just in case, someone trys a 'technical issue' they have before, will again, save until any you guys n gals accept a drink at the races, when this 'insanity' over

    'owned & trained' Mr Allsop Grove Park, 'attached John Coleman Romford'
    that night Gizza, won the Ledger at Wembley, Keith (Allsop) my buddy, rejecting all sorts of offers, for two dogs and two **** litter brothers and sisters bred in purple, Gizzas exploits on the flaps, all on VHS video, for history 😉
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    misterpjmisterpj Member Posts: 3,204
    ZARAFSHANS price down to 6-4,now only 5 to beat, but the ole rule4, if 3s at time of deduction 25p in pound, if 7-2 20p in pound, Mukkha Magic pulled out, which I thought was the danger, well see.
    and the Laura Morgan yard, warm again, FOR FITZ SAKE 7-2 into tops 7-4, getting the value one thing,landing the punts another!, but a Traders 'paradise'!
    THE SUN DANCE KID, solid at 11s 12s, all at 12.35,be lucky, always pj
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    misterpjmisterpj Member Posts: 3,204
    if you never bet horses at 50-1 you won't ever back winners at 50-1
    Willie Mullins 'take him at his word'!
    recently took into his yard, this horse from France, transferred to Willie Mullins 2nd week of January. Willie Mullins 'take him at his word' has given this a solitary Cheltenham entry,and said this is aimed at The Champion Hurdle, no idea if this will get a prep run? but if it does, and impresses it will not be the 50-1 it is right now, at 3pm Feb 16th

    Adding 2.5 points each way a fifth 1 2 3 at 50-1 JAMES DU BERLAIS

    recently (having got, getting back into racing) delighted to find out, having mentioned Alan only a few days ago, that THE ANORAK' is still going mighty strong, and Against The Crowd, way to go, always, Pottsy.




    Might invest my skybet anniversary present on this 😉



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    misterpjmisterpj Member Posts: 3,204
    ? maybe, there are a collection of savvy Shrewdies, on here, me, I honestly don't know, because of Lone Wolf Mentality!
    the 3 I relate too, Misty4me, Vaigret, gpc70

    today, no good, however, betting backing 3,at top of the market prices, long term is manna

    THE SOME DANCE KID, 14-1 > 11-1 'track show' sp 12s, Skybet on the off 17-2!
    starting price returns, right now, stuff of nightmares, but an obvious bang trier, we just keep backing them
    FOR FITZ SAKE (traded stupid short in running 4 out!)
    7-2 'opening show 7-4' on course drifter, sp 5-2
    ZARFASHAN 3-1 'opened 6-5' sp 11-8 if that was mine, would be most unhappy with the ride, the kept on one pace, accurate, I would add, nothing like enough b.linking use made of, at all, another day material.
    Shainghighed the price, every one, just one of those Noye-Ence days!
    pj
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    misterpjmisterpj Member Posts: 3,204
    left out a glaring ommission the other day
    Matt Williams left the Post? circa 2009? or 2010, mustard in running Punter down the (at the time) fast pics Welsh specialist trading room. The Cardiff trading room, 2010.
    Apparently (pj out the loop, but getting back in) Matt came back? (don't do social media, so I wouldn't know)
    Sharp as a tack, opinionated, rubbed a few up the wrong way! always 'outspoken' at ie pre Cheltenham meet the punters, days, he made several, fortunes being a superb in running judge.

    Some bet that FOR FITZ SAKE down to 4-7 in running, and all rates above, data, freely available, the boys in Halifax.
    On the right hand side of sp (5-2) always is, shortest price traded in running (1.6) 4-7.

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    misterpjmisterpj Member Posts: 3,204
    Exactly, how I do my thing....
    Plethora, of lip 💋 smacking entries (multi) over next few days, pure Gold gaurentee, contained within




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    gpc70gpc70 Member Posts: 1,997
    well your going to be busy the next few days,i see Gosden's dropped the pony back to six for the Wolverhampton race it might work but DON'T bank on it.
    three reasons not to back under wraps
    1 because it's Gosden's first time in a handicap owned by cheveley park your not going to get it's real price.
    2 it was completely dwarfed in size and scope buy the two who went past it on it's last run,i no size is not everything but........it helps.
    3 i don't want to buy you that drink we had on lol.
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    misterpjmisterpj Member Posts: 3,204
    don't worry, drinks on moi, if (when)? Easter Bank Holiday Weekend, Boris let's us all go racing, rather than (he think we all got Picnic Hampers) itching to be filled, afternoon tea with cucumber sarnies!
    gp, the two that finished in front of Under Wraps that day at Kempton, in notebook under could be anything, of course, a tiny pony! just think Gozzer will get a sprint handicap or two, outta it.

    Wednesday
    two bets, Inc a C&D winner dropped 2lb below last winning mark, but first.

    Hereford 14.30
    No 14 SYLVIES DANCE 11-4
    Kempton 17.45
    No 1 INCLYNE 4-1
    4 points win Sylvies
    3 points win INCLYNE (thericksters)
    1.5 points each way double a fifth odds 1 2 3 both
    double with skybet 11-4 SYLVIES 10-3 INCLYNE


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    misterpjmisterpj Member Posts: 3,204
    the full ante post portfolio to 'focus mind' every bet this thread
    Cheltenham
    Bumper KILCRUIT 30 points win 7-4 shortest now 5-4 tops 13-8
    Gold Cup
    ROYALE PIGALLIE
    nrnb 1 point each way 50-1 shortest now 6-1 (skybet😉) tops 10-1
    NATIVE RIVER
    4 points each way 16-1 shortest now 12-1 (skybet😉) tops one place 16-1
    MINELLA INDO
    nrnb 10 points each way 8-1 shortest now 9-1 (skybet😉) tops 20-1
    Champion Hurdle
    NOT SO SLEEPY
    2.5 points each way 50-1 40s general 50s two places
    JAMES DU BERLAIS
    2.5 points each way 50-1 shortest now 28-1(skybet😉) tops 50s
    SILVER STREAK
    nrnb 4.5 points ewch way 11-1 shortest 9s,11s available
    SAINT ROI
    nrnb 10 points each way 10-1 25s available
    GOSHEN
    nrnb 3 points each way 16-1 25s available
    Supreme Novices
    THIRD TIME LUCKI, I know for a fact, high highly the yard rate this, forget that run, on that ground, travelled like a dream, for three quarters of that race, can't believe what's available, tonight, press up Bet, already had that bet below, add this at 40s
    nrnb 15 points each way 16-1 still 16s tonight with skybet😉
    But press a further 2.5 points each way at 40-1 a fifth 1 2 3

    Queen Mother Champion Chase
    POLITILOGE
    nrnb10 points, each way 5-1 8s general 9s available
    NUBE NEGRA
    5 points each way 12-1 short as 8s (skybet😉) 12s still at Billy's
    Ryan Air Chase
    nrnb MASTERTOMMYTUCKER 2.5 points each way 20-1(press up)
    nrnb MASTERTOMMYTUCKER 2.5 points each way 33-1 standout (👋skybet)
    Arkle Challenge Trophy
    nrnb CAPTAIN GUINNESS 2.5 points each way 20-1 16s (skybet😉) 25s,a place
    adding this, already backed it twice,(not posted) wrote a lengthy ramble about the Hunter Chase Inc the Irish Hunter won by BILLAWAY (fav for this last year) when IT CAME TO PASS (pulled out the Irish Hunter BILLAWAY won couple weeks ago) and IT CAME TO PASS reigning Hunter Chase Champion, routed them all last Chelts under the outstanding Maxine O'Sullivan.
    those two head the market at 10-3 and 9s,but,there will not be, any bet, any horse, that if winning at Cheltenham, will 'irk me' if I have backed it, and not put it in here, it was my full intention to post it, even mentioned it, but mentions are no good, this is the only horse, I have backed for Cheltenham, that I haven't named as a bet, correcting that now, because of its run in Ireland, who owns it, more so, believe me or don't, connections, to quote the pilot that sat on its back, 'they are convinced' they have the beating of BILLAWAY, that's fav at 10-3,this,you can have......
    Hunter Chase
    STAKER WALLACE
    nrnb 7.5 points each way 11-1 a fifth odds 1 2 3 with 👋skybet
    That portfolios 200 betting points
    Current Running + 28.00
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    misterpjmisterpj Member Posts: 3,204
    Saturday Night
    Finally, David Avanesyan gets Josh Kelly in the ring
    lots of real history and niggle, between these two
    Fast Car Eddie can't have the judges onside in this one ( the farcical scorecards) in the Zelfa Barret Kiko Martinez fight last week, were a shambolic disgrace, so bad even Eddie (h) Earn had no choice, but to call out the officials as exactly that, a disgrace, and Barrett who got a ridiculous 118_111 on one scorecard, is in Fast Cars Stable and 'won' the fight
    4-6 Kelly 5-4 Arvaneysan, convinced the wrong way around, plus some
    Round Betting (grouped) Avanesyan to win the fight, in any of rounds 7-12
    four points, Win at 11-2
    DAVID AVANESYAN to win the fight 16 points win 5-4


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    misterpjmisterpj Member Posts: 3,204
    'the application of a Wheelbarrow of readies ££$$€€££'
    are expected to bring about a tad of an improved performance
    the application of first time blinkers a bonus as well

    Kempton 20.20 dead 8 run
    No10 TYGER BAY 10 points each way with BOG 9-2 price correct 15.50 pm wed


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    misterpjmisterpj Member Posts: 3,204
    when you have been to the party, you shouldn't....
    But, a 7lb penalty? No way that Anchors that......

    for Friday, the brave WH, gone up with prices,
    Fakenham 15.42 think it will be odds on?
    30 points WIN 5-4 FIRE AWAY



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    misterpjmisterpj Member Posts: 3,204
    3 bets today
    SYLVIES DANCE 11-4 > 13-2 drifted like a barg, ran like a tug boat, pulled up
    INCLYNE 4-1 4th
    TYGER BAY posted at 15.55 today, the money horse, BOLTED UP 9-2 > 9-4 sp buzzed in

    44 point clear profit on day, add to 28 running equals total running plus + 72 points
    Oy Oy the TYGER BAY 😉👍👋
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    misterpjmisterpj Member Posts: 3,204
    thursday
    only bet
    Sandown 15.40
    No 10 RED ROOKIE 7 points, win 5-2

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    gpc70gpc70 Member Posts: 1,997
    Same owner trainer jock last at Chelmsford in the lucky last tomorrow do we play up
    sixs into 5s
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    gpc70gpc70 Member Posts: 1,997
    opened 15/2 sky bet
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    MISTY4MEMISTY4ME Member Posts: 6,177
    vaigret said:

    So much in common although Im a bit older as for GUY HARWOOD and PROVIDEO , big favourites of mine as well. Followed Bill O 'Gorman and Tony Ives very closely.

    WELL DONE Paul @misterpj with TYGER BAY tonight :)

    I don't bet on the All-Weather, and hardly ever on the FLAT either, but it's good to see you picking the winners.

    I wouldn't give up on FIRE ATTACK. The stable obv. thinks it's good horse with the number of times it get's well-backed, but I think it will be better on better going, and the horse that beat it last Sunday THEDEVILSCOACHMAN (TDC) is a VERY,VERY good horse, with a fantastic turn of foot and a great attitude. I'm not surprised SKYBET boosted APPRECIATE IT to11/4 Fav. The only downside to TDC is that although Noel Meade is a very good trainer, he hasn't had many winners at the CHELTENHAM FESTIVAL, just 5 in total in 20 years, normally one every 4 or 5 years..... the good thing is, it's been 4 years since his last CHELTENHAM winner, and he has won the Supreme Novice Hurdle twice before.

    I started writing this post a few days ago, but I've been having problems with the keys on lappy only working intermittently.... sends you BONKERS :s:s

    I think we're all around the same age.....Loved PROVIDEO and PRIMO DOMINI (best horse Bill O'Gorman trained).....SPINDRIFTER |(multi-multiple winner) and the likes, when they could win loads of 2-y-o races. From memory didn't PROVIDEO win Brocklesby, first race of Flat Season at Donny, and then about 16 more races?

    Great Memories :)

    GOOD LUCK and HAPPY PUNTING ........we've got some very good racing to look forward to this weekend, and some warm weather too.....just hope the SUN doesn't get too low and half the hurdles and fences are omitted, though I think ASCOT and NEWBURY are usually ok on that score.

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    EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,111
    MISTY4ME said:

    vaigret said:

    So much in common although Im a bit older as for GUY HARWOOD and PROVIDEO , big favourites of mine as well. Followed Bill O 'Gorman and Tony Ives very closely.

    WELL DONE Paul @misterpj with TYGER BAY tonight :)

    I don't bet on the All-Weather, and hardly ever on the FLAT either, but it's good to see you picking the winners.

    I wouldn't give up on FIRE ATTACK. The stable obv. thinks it's good horse with the number of times it get's well-backed, but I think it will be better on better going, and the horse that beat it last Sunday THEDEVILSCOACHMAN (TDC) is a VERY,VERY good horse, with a fantastic turn of foot and a great attitude. I'm not surprised SKYBET boosted APPRECIATE IT to11/4 Fav. The only downside to TDC is that although Noel Meade is a very good trainer, he hasn't had many winners at the CHELTENHAM FESTIVAL, just 5 in total in 20 years, normally one every 4 or 5 years..... the good thing is, it's been 4 years since his last CHELTENHAM winner, and he has won the Supreme Novice Hurdle twice before.

    I started writing this post a few days ago, but I've been having problems with the keys on lappy only working intermittently.... sends you BONKERS :s:s

    I think we're all around the same age.....Loved PROVIDEO and PRIMO DOMINI (best horse Bill O'Gorman trained).....SPINDRIFTER |(multi-multiple winner) and the likes, when they could win loads of 2-y-o races. From memory didn't PROVIDEO win Brocklesby, first race of Flat Season at Donny, and then about 16 more races?

    Great Memories :)

    GOOD LUCK and HAPPY PUNTING ........we've got some very good racing to look forward to this weekend, and some warm weather too.....just hope the SUN doesn't get too low and half the hurdles and fences are omitted, though I think ASCOT and NEWBURY are usually ok on that score.

    Anyone who knows Jez knows he has dedicated his life to fast women and slow horses.

    Following a recent bout of bad health, his medical team have suggested he is getting a little old for wine, women and song.

    From hereon Jez has vowed to give up singing :)
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